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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Note: PPR
LT
Sjax
Adp
Addai
Westbrook
Gore
Bush
Portis
MB3
LJ
R.Grant
Lynch
Williep
Willis
Maroney
LT
Sjax
Adp
Addai
Westbrook
Gore
Bush
Portis
MB3
LJ
R.Grant
Lynch
Williep
Willis
Maroney
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
BTW I think your ranking of earnie graham is too high. 9th? would you really draft him over the players listed right below him?
PPR
ADP
LT
S-Jax
Addai
Westbrook
LJ (although I doubt I would take him here...just think that is where he will finish)
Gore
Lynch
Bush
Portis
MBIII
McGahee
Parker
MJD
Maroney
(Graham and Grant just miss)
Sleepers: Ricky Williams and Leon Washington depending on what the Jets do in the draft
ADP
LT
S-Jax
Addai
Westbrook
LJ (although I doubt I would take him here...just think that is where he will finish)
Gore
Lynch
Bush
Portis
MBIII
McGahee
Parker
MJD
Maroney
(Graham and Grant just miss)
Sleepers: Ricky Williams and Leon Washington depending on what the Jets do in the draft
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
PPR...
AP
LT
Jackson
Westbrook
Addai
Portis
L. Johnson
Lynch
Parker
Maroney
Jacobs
Gore
Barber
Turner
McGahee
AP
LT
Jackson
Westbrook
Addai
Portis
L. Johnson
Lynch
Parker
Maroney
Jacobs
Gore
Barber
Turner
McGahee
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
So everyone has SJAX pretty high on their lists. What have the Rams done to improve his 2008/9 chance of doing well. Dont get me wrong i think he is a stud but i think i would have to rank him 5-6 personally.
Also ADP being so high as well, no one thinks there will be a sophmore slump? More game tape on him now and defenses are going to be more prepared? Im an ADP owner who hopes you are all right but im nervous.
Also ADP being so high as well, no one thinks there will be a sophmore slump? More game tape on him now and defenses are going to be more prepared? Im an ADP owner who hopes you are all right but im nervous.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Personally I think Sjax in the top 3 is exactly right. when he came back from injury I liked what a saw. Not much went right for the rams last year, injuries to Pace,Sjax and Bulger killed that team. PLus Jake Long at Rt would look pretty good. I think they signed some FA Oline man as well for depth.
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
PPR
1. Westbrook
2. LT
3. ADP
4. S. Jackson
5. Addai
6. Bush
7. Portis
8. Gore
9. LJ
10. R. Grant
11. MJD
12. Lynch
13. McGahee
14. MBIII
15. a. Jam Lewis
15. b. B. Jacobs
1. Westbrook
2. LT
3. ADP
4. S. Jackson
5. Addai
6. Bush
7. Portis
8. Gore
9. LJ
10. R. Grant
11. MJD
12. Lynch
13. McGahee
14. MBIII
15. a. Jam Lewis
15. b. B. Jacobs
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H.K.
Footballguy
bush not top 15 in ppr?PLuson the Jacobs
Jacobs attempts at catching a football are remarkably similar to watching King Kong taking swats at helicopters...eventually they get a few and New Yorkers are frightened by the sight of either event.Now, if you are making rankings for PPD (points per drop), then Jacobs is right up there. No way he sniffs the top 15 in PPR. Statistically impossible, in fact.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
right on Qbush not top 15 in ppr?PLuson the Jacobs
Jacobs attempts at catching a football are remarkably similar to watching King Kong taking swats at helicopters...eventually they get a few and New Yorkers are frightened by the sight of either event.Now, if you are making rankings for PPD (points per drop), then Jacobs is right up there. No way he sniffs the top 15 in PPR. Statistically impossible, in fact.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
A RB doesn't have to catch the ball to have value even in a PPR league. I think he'll be more productive this year than last. I'm all right with bumping him down a couple spots, but not beyond.The fact that Reggie Bush seems to get dinged up quite often is a concern. Still, you have to roll the dice. I admit I overlooked him.bush not top 15 in ppr?PLuson the Jacobs
Jacobs attempts at catching a football are remarkably similar to watching King Kong taking swats at helicopters...eventually they get a few and New Yorkers are frightened by the sight of either event.
Now, if you are making rankings for PPD (points per drop), then Jacobs is right up there. No way he sniffs the top 15 in PPR. Statistically impossible, in fact.
Brutis
Footballguy
Portis seems awful high to me. I say that because I've been looking to deal him (granted its a dynasty league) and his value is like he is coming off an ACL injury. Every dynasty or redraft ranking i've seen has him fairly high but I cant even get a 6 pack of beer for him in my league.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I can see not getting much for him in a dynasty as he likely is on the downside of his career.But he piled up a sneaky 1262/11 rushing and 47/389/0 receiving last year. Those are great numbers for a PPR league.Portis seems awful high to me. I say that because I've been looking to deal him (granted its a dynasty league) and his value is like he is coming off an ACL injury. Every dynasty or redraft ranking i've seen has him fairly high but I cant even get a 6 pack of beer for him in my league.
Michael Fox Fan
Footballguy
Yeah, he has a lot of mileage on him. Should be good for 1-2 more years of RB1 production, but after that his value will plunge. I think people are also scared off by: 1) coaching change in Was, 2) Portis injury history, particularly the panic when he missed (most of?) training camp last year. It was comical to watch everyone freak out - even though we all know Portis hates July/August. Will be interesting to see if the new staff lets him take a rest in camp this year.I can see not getting much for him in a dynasty as he likely is on the downside of his career.But he piled up a sneaky 1262/11 rushing and 47/389/0 receiving last year. Those are great numbers for a PPR league.Portis seems awful high to me. I say that because I've been looking to deal him (granted its a dynasty league) and his value is like he is coming off an ACL injury. Every dynasty or redraft ranking i've seen has him fairly high but I cant even get a 6 pack of beer for him in my league.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
PPR
1. LT
2. Addai
3. S. Jax
4. Westbrook
5. ADP (even Bush had a sophomore slump, teams have more video on him, and I think injury is a concern this year)
6. Gore
7. Grant (moves up for PPR)
8. Barber
9. Bush (PPR puts him top 10)
10. Lynch
11. R. Brown (has everyone forgotten about him)
12. Turner
13. FWP
14. Portis
15. LJ (the PT side of me coming out, his days of top 10 are over)
Just off the top of my head, no research done or anything. Haven't thought about this since last season
1. LT
2. Addai
3. S. Jax
4. Westbrook
5. ADP (even Bush had a sophomore slump, teams have more video on him, and I think injury is a concern this year)
6. Gore
7. Grant (moves up for PPR)
8. Barber
9. Bush (PPR puts him top 10)
10. Lynch
11. R. Brown (has everyone forgotten about him)
12. Turner
13. FWP
14. Portis
15. LJ (the PT side of me coming out, his days of top 10 are over)
Just off the top of my head, no research done or anything. Haven't thought about this since last season
Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
wow.. u really wouldn't draft Reggie Bush in a PPR league
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Sorry, not a forum troll. Not even sure what that means... guess that's a good thing that I don't know... means I have a life
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Keep reading. I already said I'd forgotten about him.But I don't think I would draft him. I think he's frail and won't last a full season at high production ever.
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Banger
Footballguy
that's the first thing that really jumped off the page at me.
The Man with the Plan
Footballguy
1. LaDainian Tomlinson - still the best
2. Brian Westbrook - not underrated anymore
3. Adrian Peterson - if it wasn't for CT he'd be #1
4. Joseph Addai- late season swoon bothers me a bit
5. Marion Barber- The committee is over
6. Clinton Portis - was a stud behind a bad O-line
7. Willis McGahee- could be even better with Cameron
8. Jamal Lewis -can a former 2000 yard rusher be a fluke
9. Steven Jackson- stud but horrid team keeps him down the list
10. Frank Gore - ditto
11. Marshawn Lynch- needs more than 18 receptions
12. Laurence Maroney- the Patriots need to use him more
13. Ronnie Brown- If only he was healthy... you know the rest
14.Travis Henry- Before all the drama he was on a tear
15. Brandon Jacobs- the vulturer has become the vultured
2. Brian Westbrook - not underrated anymore
3. Adrian Peterson - if it wasn't for CT he'd be #1
4. Joseph Addai- late season swoon bothers me a bit
5. Marion Barber- The committee is over
6. Clinton Portis - was a stud behind a bad O-line
7. Willis McGahee- could be even better with Cameron
8. Jamal Lewis -can a former 2000 yard rusher be a fluke
9. Steven Jackson- stud but horrid team keeps him down the list
10. Frank Gore - ditto
11. Marshawn Lynch- needs more than 18 receptions
12. Laurence Maroney- the Patriots need to use him more
13. Ronnie Brown- If only he was healthy... you know the rest
14.Travis Henry- Before all the drama he was on a tear
15. Brandon Jacobs- the vulturer has become the vultured
H.K.
Footballguy
Andy,I am a huge fan of your work, however, if an RB is going to make up for lost receptions in PPR then they need to get a ton of carries. Check out the distribution of carries the Giants used in the playoffs, it was about a 55/45 split between Jacobs and Bradshaw....and that was without a healthy Ward. Jacobs will not be getting a huge workload next season.Also, how can you justify saying Bush gets dinged up quite often and not make the same claim for Jacobs? At least Bush had a legitimate injury and tried to play through it....Jacobs was leaving the field with a new injury practically every week.All my best,H.K.
Jedimaster21
Footballguy
I know you have always hated Jacobs, but inaccurate information like this bothers me. It gives people who may not know a lot about a player the wrong idea. Jacobs may be big, but he is a very solid receiver and doesn't look awkward or "funny" catching the ball at all. He is actually a very decent receiver. That being said, I don't think he is in the top 15, PPR, no PPR, redraft, or dynasty.bush not top 15 in ppr?PLuson the Jacobs
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Those are close-but-not-quite-literally PFMA rankings. If I'd known everyone would be so interested in my rankings, I'd have taken longer than the 60 seconds I did to throw them up there.
I'm okay with not including Jacobs on that list.
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Dexter Manley
Footballguy
edited to add non-ppr
1. ADP -- obv. has the highest ceiling of all rb's
2. LT2
3. SJax -- no brainer top 3 imo, was a beast on a bad team after coming back from injury
4. Addai -- could bump down once playoff schedule comes out
5. Westbrook -- might flip flop him and Addai
6. LJ -- assuming the Chiefs improve their oline, if not bump him down
7. Portis -- if anything should be more effective in the new offense, especially with a healthy oline
8. Gore -- may move up or down depending how the new 49ers offense looks
9. MBIII -- could move higher if no major rb is acquired that will take away a lot of carries
10. Lynch
11. McGahee
12. Jacobs -- if he stays healthy, he's a mortal lock for the top 10
13. Grant
14. MJD -- Fred Taylor only reason he isn't higher
15. JLew -- I'm somewhat hesitant he won't perfom as well this season since it's no longer a contract year
1. ADP -- obv. has the highest ceiling of all rb's
2. LT2
3. SJax -- no brainer top 3 imo, was a beast on a bad team after coming back from injury
4. Addai -- could bump down once playoff schedule comes out
5. Westbrook -- might flip flop him and Addai
6. LJ -- assuming the Chiefs improve their oline, if not bump him down
7. Portis -- if anything should be more effective in the new offense, especially with a healthy oline
8. Gore -- may move up or down depending how the new 49ers offense looks
9. MBIII -- could move higher if no major rb is acquired that will take away a lot of carries
10. Lynch
11. McGahee
12. Jacobs -- if he stays healthy, he's a mortal lock for the top 10
13. Grant
14. MJD -- Fred Taylor only reason he isn't higher
15. JLew -- I'm somewhat hesitant he won't perfom as well this season since it's no longer a contract year
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the spanker
Footballguy
Good list. Since it's off the top of your head I understand but where would you put McGahee? Did you just forget about him?
the spanker
Footballguy
Bush too low Lynch too high
LBH
Footballguy
Did Jamal Lewis pass away
no reason to think he wont put together a solid season with the offense he has around him
jurb26
Footballguy
Jamal hasn't gotten any respect for years now. I don't think most around here have him in their top 20.Did Jamal Lewis pass away
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
And I'm seeing Willie Parker on several of these lists with no JLew. That's just crazy, imo, considering that the Steelers oline will be unimproved at best, and Parker is coming off an ankle injury.Did Jamal Lewis pass awayno reason to think he wont put together a solid season with the offense he has around him
Blue-Kun
Footballguy
It becomes difficult to place trust in a soon to be 29 year old RB who has 3 disappointing FF seasons before having another good year, where every other relevant CLE offensive player also had a career high in FF points. If you aren't expecting the same large offensive output, it's seems reasonable to leave J-Lewis off a top 15 list. Similarly with FWP, he had a down year, but still finished in the top 20 despite only scoring 2 TD. Only two TD off 321 rushing attempts doesn't exactly strike me as likely to happen again.And I'm seeing Willie Parker on several of these lists with no JLew. That's just crazy, imo, considering that the Steelers oline will be unimproved at best, and Parker is coming off an ankle injury.Did Jamal Lewis pass awayno reason to think he wont put together a solid season with the offense he has around him
jurb26
Footballguy
Lewis only had 2 disappointing seasons and the reasons for that where made painfully obvious heading into them. He has provided tremendous value each of the past 2 seasons.Blue-Kun said:It becomes difficult to place trust in a soon to be 29 year old RB who has 3 disappointing FF seasons before having another good year, where every other relevant CLE offensive player also had a career high in FF points. If you aren't expecting the same large offensive output, it's seems reasonable to leave J-Lewis off a top 15 list. Similarly with FWP, he had a down year, but still finished in the top 20 despite only scoring 2 TD. Only two TD off 321 rushing attempts doesn't exactly strike me as likely to happen again.Dexter Manley said:And I'm seeing Willie Parker on several of these lists with no JLew. That's just crazy, imo, considering that the Steelers oline will be unimproved at best, and Parker is coming off an ankle injury.Little Big Head said:Did Jamal Lewis pass away
Interseptopus
Footballguy
No, I considered him. I think Jamal Lewis should be in place of FWP actually after thinking about this more and remembering that FWP had a big injuryI just think McGahee is always overhyped every season. I mean, he's talented and he can put together a solid season, but after his top 5 or whatever year everone's expected him to come back and do the same, and every year they are disappointed. I think he'll challenge for the 12-15 spot. I see him as a top 15 RB, but 12-15 range. If I could change my list, I'd put Jamal Lewis at 13 in place of FWP, Move Portis to 15, and put McGahee at 14I'm really not sold on LJ being a dominant back again. Age working against him and the injury he had is a very tricky one from my educational background, not to mention KC is awfulthe spanker said:
MAC_32
Footballguy
It wasn't an ankle injury, he broke his leg...which is much much worse.Dexter Manley said:And I'm seeing Willie Parker on several of these lists with no JLew. That's just crazy, imo, considering that the Steelers oline will be unimproved at best, and Parker is coming off an ankle injury.Little Big Head said:Did Jamal Lewis pass away
gianmarco
Footballguy
PPR--
1. ADP
2. LT
3. Westbrook
4. SJax
5. Addai
6. Bush
7. Gore
8. MJD
9. Portis
10. LJ
11. Lynch
12. McGahee
13. Lewis
14. Parker
15. Barber
Honorable mention: R. Grant and Jacobs
Super sleeper to break that top 15: If Carolina doesn't draft a RB---DeAngelo Williams
ETA--Man, there is some SERIOUS value to be had at RB next year. I didn't even list guys like Turner, Fargas, Edge, Graham, Maroney who are legit starters that will be drafted in the 17-22 range. The top picks in redrafts are going to be huge as you can pair a very legit #2 with those top studs. I don't remember it being this deep with bonafide #2 RB's in the 20's.
1. ADP
2. LT
3. Westbrook
4. SJax
5. Addai
6. Bush
7. Gore
8. MJD
9. Portis
10. LJ
11. Lynch
12. McGahee
13. Lewis
14. Parker
15. Barber
Honorable mention: R. Grant and Jacobs
Super sleeper to break that top 15: If Carolina doesn't draft a RB---DeAngelo Williams
ETA--Man, there is some SERIOUS value to be had at RB next year. I didn't even list guys like Turner, Fargas, Edge, Graham, Maroney who are legit starters that will be drafted in the 17-22 range. The top picks in redrafts are going to be huge as you can pair a very legit #2 with those top studs. I don't remember it being this deep with bonafide #2 RB's in the 20's.
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3nOut
Footballguy
It wasn't an ankle injury, he broke his leg...which is much much worse.Dexter Manley said:And I'm seeing Willie Parker on several of these lists with no JLew. That's just crazy, imo, considering that the Steelers oline will be unimproved at best, and Parker is coming off an ankle injury.Little Big Head said:Did Jamal Lewis pass away
When a bone heals it actually becomes stronger where it was broken. A stretched or torn tendon will never be the same.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Was also a non-weight bearing bone that should have virtually no lingering effects on his running.It wasn't an ankle injury, he broke his leg...which is much much worse.Dexter Manley said:And I'm seeing Willie Parker on several of these lists with no JLew. That's just crazy, imo, considering that the Steelers oline will be unimproved at best, and Parker is coming off an ankle injury.Little Big Head said:Did Jamal Lewis pass away
MAC_32
Footballguy
I wish you were right.Signed,Michael BushIt wasn't an ankle injury, he broke his leg...which is much much worse.Dexter Manley said:And I'm seeing Willie Parker on several of these lists with no JLew. That's just crazy, imo, considering that the Steelers oline will be unimproved at best, and Parker is coming off an ankle injury.Little Big Head said:Did Jamal Lewis pass away
finfansteve
Footballguy
any ideas where bush would be in a non PPR league? I have a chance to trade for him in my non PPR format league......
