Post Your unpopular opinions (2 Viewers)

[jdoggydogg]

Having the word Shoppe in your name, or even calling your business "Ye Olde __________ Shoppe" will not convince anybody you are an established business.That just won't get 'em.

Dude, up here in Northern Cali, we have a place called The Sensuality Shoppe. They mostly cater to granola heads.I am just itching to walk in there in full Renaissance gear and say, "Give me a tankard of your finest lube, comely lass!"

C'mon, people. I thought this'd go over well here, and I see nary a chortle. Not even a guffaw :(

 

[Mr. Littlejeans]

I bolded a couple of things that are incongruous above.

:( You think Led Zeppelin lacked creativity & artistic integrity?

http://www.turnmeondeadman.com/index.php?o...9&Itemid=29

http://www.warr.org/zep.html

http://www.furious.com/perfect/jimmypage.html

 

[jdoggydogg]

I bolded a couple of things that are incongruous above.

You think Led Zeppelin lacked creativity & artistic integrity?

Just so I understand this: you're saying you resent the fact that Zepp is too derivative and steals their sound?List of your favorite bands, please.

 

[GoBigRed]

I bolded a couple of things that are incongruous above.

You think Led Zeppelin lacked creativity & artistic integrity?

Interesting reading, but I'm not sure what you want me to say. There isn't a band on the planet that hasn't been influenced by or borrowed from another band at some time. I guess it depends on how one defines "original." For instance..."However, noted blues author and producer Robert Palmer states "It is the custom, in blues music, for a singer to borrow verses from contemporary sources, both oral and recorded, add his own tune and/or arrangement, and call the song his own". Folklorist Carl Lindahl, refers to these recycling of lyrics in songs as "floating lyrics". He defines it within the folk-music tradition as "lines that have circulated so long in folk communities that tradition-steeped singers call them instantly to mind and rearrange them constantly, and often unconsciously, to suit their personal and community aesthetics".

Interesting reading, nonetheless. Thanks!

 

[shut it down]

Whoa, had to switch names.

I never said I resented them. And I am not implying that they were influenced by other bands (who isn't?), or "stole their sound", I'm saying they stole songs. That Willie Dixon is now credited as a co-writer on "Whole Lotta Love", after an out-of-court settlement, says a lot. Same with Chester Burnett and "The Lemon Song."

The Spirit/Stairway to Heaven thing is pretty damning as well. And I don't really care about Zeppelin either way, my only point is that it's incongruous to lament artistic creativity/originality, and then list a band that's thieved songs as one of your favorites.

If you'd still like a list of my favorite bands, I'd be happy to try and cobble together a Top 10 if you wish. Although if you're hoping to find a band that's been successfully sued for plagiarism, you're probably going to be disappointed.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Whoa, had to switch names.

I never said I resented them. And I am not implying that they were influenced by other bands (who isn't?), or "stole their sound", I'm saying they stole songs. That Willie Dixon is now credited as a co-writer on "Whole Lotta Love", after an out-of-court settlement, says a lot. Same with Chester Burnett and "The Lemon Song."

The Spirit/Stairway to Heaven thing is pretty damning as well. And I don't really care about Zeppelin either way, my only point is that it's incongruous to lament artistic creativity/originality, and then list a band that's thieved songs as one of your favorites.

If you'd still like a list of my favorite bands, I'd be happy to try and cobble together a Top 10 if you wish. Although if you're hoping to find a band that's been successfully sued for plagiarism, you're probably going to be disappointed.

It's hard to sue for plagiarism. That's irrelevant. Posting your favorite bands will inevitably open up a can of worms because it's nearly impossible to find a band that isn't derivative. And songwriting credits? That's up to the record company's legal teams. I'm not defending Zepp because I like their music. I am defending them because you may not know how much music is stolen every day - and not even always on purpose. I wrote a composition in college that I was very proud of. Got an "A" and everything. A few weeks later, I am listening to the Bach Violin Concerti and I realize I accidentally ripped off the first five notes of one of the Bach pieces. #### me. I ripped off Bach. If you don't like Zepp, that's an opinion I wouldn't bother to argue with. But don't delude yourself into thinking that plageurism doesn't happen all the time.

 

[Mr.Roboto]

Having the word Shoppe in your name, or even calling your business "Ye Olde __________ Shoppe" will not convince anybody you are an established business.That just won't get 'em.

Dude, up here in Northern Cali, we have a place called The Sensuality Shoppe. They mostly cater to granola heads.I am just itching to walk in there in full Renaissance gear and say, "Give me a tankard of your finest lube, comely lass!"

C'mon, people. I thought this'd go over well here, and I see nary a chortle. Not even a guffaw

I lol'd

 

[midwest_kc]

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I don't like pets. That goes for all pets. I don't like dogs, cats, birds, fish, anything. I don't have a problem with you having a pet, but I won't own one.Oh, and I really don't get people considering them family. They're not a kid, so please don't call them that. You can talk about emotional attachment, but I get attached to things all the time I don't consider family. That's because, well, they aren't.

Would you ever adopt a child?

Probably not, seeing as how I have one, and even if my wife and I couldn't have more, I'd be satisfied. However, I see where you're going with that, but I still think it's different when it's a human, and not an animal.

 

[NCCommish]

Having the word Shoppe in your name, or even calling your business "Ye Olde __________ Shoppe" will not convince anybody you are an established business.That just won't get 'em.

Dude, up here in Northern Cali, we have a place called The Sensuality Shoppe. They mostly cater to granola heads.I am just itching to walk in there in full Renaissance gear and say, "Give me a tankard of your finest lube, comely lass!"

C'mon, people. I thought this'd go over well here, and I see nary a chortle. Not even a guffaw

I lol'd

Me too.

 

[Hastur]

Just my opinion, but I think there were 2 great eras of music: 1) about a 15 year span from the early 60's to the mid-70's, with artists like Zeppelin, the Stones, The Who, Jimmy, Joplin, Cream, The Ramones, The S e x Pistols, Black Sabbath, etc. and 2) about a 10 year span from the late 80's to the late 90's, with artists like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden, Public Enemy, N.W.A., Tupac, Dr. Dre etc.

Personally, I think 1600-1750 stands out as a great era of music...

 

[The Big Guy]

Whoa, had to switch names.

I never said I resented them. And I am not implying that they were influenced by other bands (who isn't?), or "stole their sound", I'm saying they stole songs. That Willie Dixon is now credited as a co-writer on "Whole Lotta Love", after an out-of-court settlement, says a lot. Same with Chester Burnett and "The Lemon Song."

The Spirit/Stairway to Heaven thing is pretty damning as well. And I don't really care about Zeppelin either way, my only point is that it's incongruous to lament artistic creativity/originality, and then list a band that's thieved songs as one of your favorites.

If you'd still like a list of my favorite bands, I'd be happy to try and cobble together a Top 10 if you wish. Although if you're hoping to find a band that's been successfully sued for plagiarism, you're probably going to be disappointed.

It's hard to sue for plagiarism. That's irrelevant. Posting your favorite bands will inevitably open up a can of worms because it's nearly impossible to find a band that isn't derivative. And songwriting credits? That's up to the record company's legal teams. I'm not defending Zepp because I like their music. I am defending them because you may not know how much music is stolen every day - and not even always on purpose. I wrote a composition in college that I was very proud of. Got an "A" and everything. A few weeks later, I am listening to the Bach Violin Concerti and I realize I accidentally ripped off the first five notes of one of the Bach pieces. #### me. I ripped off Bach. If you don't like Zepp, that's an opinion I wouldn't bother to argue with. But don't delude yourself into thinking that plageurism doesn't happen all the time.

You really want to compare taking 5 notes with what Led Zep has stolen without credit? They just out and out stole songs without credit. Let me say that one again, they just out and out stole songs without credit. Doing a cover version, or taking someone's song and putting your bands twist on it while properly crediting the original artist is normal business in the industry. But out and out stealing music from others with no credit and no paying of royalties is just theft, even if your version of the song is better, or if no one has heard of the other version of the song.BTW-I thought that the Yardbirds version of Dazed and Confused was the best of the 3 in the above links. Too bad they never got to put it on an album.

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

Feminists who think facials are demeaning need to have some semen sprayed on them in the heat of the moment. It's like a religious experience: you need to experience it yourself in order to understand how great it is for everyone.

How in the hell is this not deleted????

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

everyone should be an organ donor.

This is an unpopular opinion?

 

[Tom Servo]

Golf and tennis are rich people's sports and do not belong on TV. Joe Average does not watch these sports and they're only on TV for the white wine and brie crowd.

It is beneath the dignity of Americans to play soccer. We should suck at it. Leave it to metric system measuring, gold chain wearing, greasy, rioting Euros to play.

Most people who object to Christianity want to focus on the human followers rather than the God who leads it. To focus on God would put the light on them where they don't want it.

West Virginia is not such a bad place to live.

Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell should mate and produce many children.

 

[bentley]

The opinion of anyone that uses the "slippery slope" argument should be dismissed out of hand. It's the lowest form of political discourse, to be used only by morons who are trying to sound smart.

Most people have crappy taste in most everything, and that's OK.

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

Vick to the Eagles was the best fit for him. No way any Peta protesters are going to last 5 minutes outside the stadium.

Now THIS was funny!

 

[proninja]

The opinion of anyone that uses the "slippery slope" argument should be dismissed out of hand. It's the lowest form of political discourse, to be used only by morons who are trying to sound smart.

Most people have crappy taste in most everything, and that's OK.

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

I'm just gonna say it, and I don't care what anyone thinks. I liked Dennis Miller on Monday Night Football.

I thought the Theisman ESPN trio was great on SNF

me too

 

[bueno]

ALL OF THEM?

 

[maxwelledison]

The opinion of anyone that uses the "slippery slope" argument should be dismissed out of hand. It's the lowest form of political discourse, to be used only by morons who are trying to sound smart.

Most people have crappy taste in most everything, and that's OK.

Great one.

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

Christianity would shrink to a small percent of that it is today, if the common images of Jesus matched watched he actually looked like.

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

Driving age should be 21 and the drinking age 18.

Money wasted on space exploration needs to be spent on developing a male birth control pill.

Women on welfare need to be shot up with birth control before they collect their checks.

Child molestors and rapists should be eligible for the death penalty.

Baseball fans are much smarter than football fans.

The US Mint should stop producing pennies and all products should round up to the nearest whole number.

People riding on Segways should be eligible targets for rock throwing.

Gladiator, Fight Club and The Departed were all incredibly overrated movies.

Tom Brady fumbled that football and the Raiders were absolutely screwed out of that game.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Golf and tennis are rich people's sports and do not belong on TV. Joe Average does not watch these sports and they're only on TV for the white wine and brie crowd.

So what, we folks in the wine and brie crowd who pay for cable don't have a say in what gets aired? There might be fewer of us, but we have more disposable income so it evens out. A good Sunday at the Masters will rival almost any other sporting event on TV, IMO.

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

ESPN shows way way way way WAY too much Little League action.

 

[Philo]

Golf and tennis are rich people's sports and do not belong on TV. Joe Average does not watch these sports and they're only on TV for the white wine and brie crowd.

So what, we folks in the wine and brie crowd who pay for cable don't have a say in what gets aired? There might be fewer of us, but we have more disposable income so it evens out. A good Sunday at the Masters will rival almost any other sporting event on TV, IMO.

Cable, fine, but they don't belong on NBC, ABC or CBS.PBS I could see.

 

[Philo]

ESPN shows way way way way WAY too much Little League action.

And not enough dominoes or scrabble competitions

 

[Idiot Boxer]

The opinion of anyone that uses the "slippery slope" argument should be dismissed out of hand. It's the lowest form of political discourse, to be used only by morons who are trying to sound smart.

Careful, if you dismiss everyone who uses a slippery slope argument out of hand, next you'll be dismissing all strawman arguments and then Occam's Razor and Schrodinger's Cat. Seriously, where will it end???!

 

[perry147]

All the great books are already written.

Fox News consistently makes more factual errors, offers the most biased coverage and has the least informed audience of any TV news source. The trick is their key audience knows this and does not care.

The Daily Show with John Stewart is the most fair news source out there. Anyone is open game.

Classical Music is better than anything on the airwaves today.

The winner of todays political landscape is which side can get a discrediting label that will stick to the other side. It doesn't even have to be true, it just has to stick.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Just my opinion, but I think there were 2 great eras of music: 1) about a 15 year span from the early 60's to the mid-70's, with artists like Zeppelin, the Stones, The Who, Jimmy, Joplin, Cream, The Ramones, The S e x Pistols, Black Sabbath, etc. and 2) about a 10 year span from the late 80's to the late 90's, with artists like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, AIC, Soundgarden, Public Enemy, N.W.A., Tupac, Dr. Dre etc.

Personally, I think 1600-1750 stands out as a great era of music...

 

[perry147]

I love my American wife but..European women > American women

The average southern male is less racist than the average American.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Whoa, had to switch names.

I never said I resented them. And I am not implying that they were influenced by other bands (who isn't?), or "stole their sound", I'm saying they stole songs. That Willie Dixon is now credited as a co-writer on "Whole Lotta Love", after an out-of-court settlement, says a lot. Same with Chester Burnett and "The Lemon Song."

The Spirit/Stairway to Heaven thing is pretty damning as well. And I don't really care about Zeppelin either way, my only point is that it's incongruous to lament artistic creativity/originality, and then list a band that's thieved songs as one of your favorites.

If you'd still like a list of my favorite bands, I'd be happy to try and cobble together a Top 10 if you wish. Although if you're hoping to find a band that's been successfully sued for plagiarism, you're probably going to be disappointed.

It's hard to sue for plagiarism. That's irrelevant. Posting your favorite bands will inevitably open up a can of worms because it's nearly impossible to find a band that isn't derivative. And songwriting credits? That's up to the record company's legal teams. I'm not defending Zepp because I like their music. I am defending them because you may not know how much music is stolen every day - and not even always on purpose. I wrote a composition in college that I was very proud of. Got an "A" and everything. A few weeks later, I am listening to the Bach Violin Concerti and I realize I accidentally ripped off the first five notes of one of the Bach pieces. #### me. I ripped off Bach. If you don't like Zepp, that's an opinion I wouldn't bother to argue with. But don't delude yourself into thinking that plageurism doesn't happen all the time.

You really want to compare taking 5 notes with what Led Zep has stolen without credit? They just out and out stole songs without credit. Let me say that one again, they just out and out stole songs without credit. Doing a cover version, or taking someone's song and putting your bands twist on it while properly crediting the original artist is normal business in the industry. But out and out stealing music from others with no credit and no paying of royalties is just theft, even if your version of the song is better, or if no one has heard of the other version of the song.BTW-I thought that the Yardbirds version of Dazed and Confused was the best of the 3 in the above links. Too bad they never got to put it on an album.

Sure, great. I'll even concede that.Jack London famously plagiarized Egerton R. Young. Are going to tell me that London wasn't a good writer?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

ESPN shows way way way way WAY too much Little League action.

I made the mistake of clicking on that 30 minute poker news show. Wow was that bad.

 

[pollardsvision]

I still find Brett Favre to be very likeable (and I"m not a Minny fan at all).

 

[Mckflip]

Why are so many of these supposedly unpopular opinions actually quite popular?

 

[The Big Guy]

Whoa, had to switch names.

I never said I resented them. And I am not implying that they were influenced by other bands (who isn't?), or "stole their sound", I'm saying they stole songs. That Willie Dixon is now credited as a co-writer on "Whole Lotta Love", after an out-of-court settlement, says a lot. Same with Chester Burnett and "The Lemon Song."

The Spirit/Stairway to Heaven thing is pretty damning as well. And I don't really care about Zeppelin either way, my only point is that it's incongruous to lament artistic creativity/originality, and then list a band that's thieved songs as one of your favorites.

If you'd still like a list of my favorite bands, I'd be happy to try and cobble together a Top 10 if you wish. Although if you're hoping to find a band that's been successfully sued for plagiarism, you're probably going to be disappointed.

It's hard to sue for plagiarism. That's irrelevant. Posting your favorite bands will inevitably open up a can of worms because it's nearly impossible to find a band that isn't derivative. And songwriting credits? That's up to the record company's legal teams. I'm not defending Zepp because I like their music. I am defending them because you may not know how much music is stolen every day - and not even always on purpose. I wrote a composition in college that I was very proud of. Got an "A" and everything. A few weeks later, I am listening to the Bach Violin Concerti and I realize I accidentally ripped off the first five notes of one of the Bach pieces. #### me. I ripped off Bach. If you don't like Zepp, that's an opinion I wouldn't bother to argue with. But don't delude yourself into thinking that plageurism doesn't happen all the time.

You really want to compare taking 5 notes with what Led Zep has stolen without credit? They just out and out stole songs without credit. Let me say that one again, they just out and out stole songs without credit. Doing a cover version, or taking someone's song and putting your bands twist on it while properly crediting the original artist is normal business in the industry. But out and out stealing music from others with no credit and no paying of royalties is just theft, even if your version of the song is better, or if no one has heard of the other version of the song.BTW-I thought that the Yardbirds version of Dazed and Confused was the best of the 3 in the above links. Too bad they never got to put it on an album.

Sure, great. I'll even concede that.Jack London famously plagiarized Egerton R. Young. Are going to tell me that London wasn't a good writer?

I don't know the specifics, but I'll assume it was a one time issue, not a career length pattern, so I don't think that this is really going apples to apples.

 

[bostonfred]

It's not that the board is too strict or the moderating is inconsistent. You almost always know when you're pushing the envelope. Continuing to do it when the owners don't want you to but can't stop it is a bit of a #### move.

Still, the best and funniest posters shouldn't get banned as often, even if they push the lines. If there were one thing worth investing in, it would be keeping the best posters happy, giving them a free subscription or a crappy t-shirt as a reward instead of banning them as a punishment. Call it what you want, they're developing content for you, and while he's pushed the line in the past, $27.95 per year is not an unreasonable price for the amount of content a guy like GM develops. Maybe if that happened, there would be fewer people #####ing.

Joe gets treated differently because it's his board. Does that means people kiss his ### when he starts a thread? Sure. Does that mean other people hate him because they got banned? Obviously. But he seems like a pretty normal guy to me. Maybe a little overboard on the coy shtick, but I think that's more a case of him not wanting to be directly argumentative with his customers.

I'd probably be conservative if I were raised in a different part of the country. The problem is that way too many of the conservatives I meet are jack###es with a terrible sense of humor. That goes for here on the board, too. The smart conservatives here are some of my favorite people, though, and some of them are even funny, which gives me hope.

Scupper is overrated.

Godfather 2 was nowhere near as good as the original.

John Madden was the best announcer we've ever seen. He was at his best when he was talking about fat guys. Even his Favre worship was good entertainment.

You can tell how much money a person makes or will ever make by how close their television is to the front door of their house. If it's the first thing you see when you walk in, chances are good they're never going to be rich.

Sushi isn't icky because of the raw fish. It just doesn't taste that good.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

giving them a free subscription or a crappy t-shirt as a reward instead of banning them as a punishment. Call it what you want, they're developing content for you, and while he's pushed the line in the past, $27.95 per year is not an unreasonable price for the amount of content a guy like GM develops. Maybe if that happened, there would be fewer people #####ing.

You're not on this plan? I have enough free t-shirts to last a month.

 

[whitem0nkey]

everyone should be an organ donor.

This is an unpopular opinion?

I would not have a problem if it became law that 100% of our population should be enrolled into being an organ donor. but I can see how a mojority of the people would have a problem with that so I would settle with 100% of our population is enrolled, and they have to opt out. currently no one is enrolled and you have to sign up.Another idea if you are currently not an organ donor you are disqualified from getting one.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

giving them a free subscription or a crappy t-shirt as a reward instead of banning them as a punishment. Call it what you want, they're developing content for you, and while he's pushed the line in the past, $27.95 per year is not an unreasonable price for the amount of content a guy like GM develops. Maybe if that happened, there would be fewer people #####ing.

You're not on this plan? I have enough free t-shirts to last a month.

Ixnay onyay the eefray eeshirtay ealday.

 

[urbanhack]

You can tell how much money a person makes or will ever make by how close their television is to the front door of their house.

 

[bostonfred]

giving them a free subscription or a crappy t-shirt as a reward instead of banning them as a punishment. Call it what you want, they're developing content for you, and while he's pushed the line in the past, $27.95 per year is not an unreasonable price for the amount of content a guy like GM develops. Maybe if that happened, there would be fewer people #####ing.

You're not on this plan? I have enough free t-shirts to last a month.

I wasn't considering myself a good poster, and I'd be shocked if Joe thought you were. You must be getting hooked up by the weak link. Thanks for nothing, Carlton.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

giving them a free subscription or a crappy t-shirt as a reward instead of banning them as a punishment. Call it what you want, they're developing content for you, and while he's pushed the line in the past, $27.95 per year is not an unreasonable price for the amount of content a guy like GM develops. Maybe if that happened, there would be fewer people #####ing.

You're not on this plan? I have enough free t-shirts to last a month.

I wasn't considering myself a good poster, and I'd be shocked if Joe thought you were. You must be getting hooked up by the weak link. Thanks for nothing, Carlton.

Most of the lower-tier mods can be bought.

 

[bostonfred]

giving them a free subscription or a crappy t-shirt as a reward instead of banning them as a punishment. Call it what you want, they're developing content for you, and while he's pushed the line in the past, $27.95 per year is not an unreasonable price for the amount of content a guy like GM develops. Maybe if that happened, there would be fewer people #####ing.

You're not on this plan? I have enough free t-shirts to last a month.

I wasn't considering myself a good poster, and I'd be shocked if Joe thought you were. You must be getting hooked up by the weak link. Thanks for nothing, Carlton.

Most of the lower-tier mods can be bought.

You bought your "free t-shirts"? Nice job, Otis.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

giving them a free subscription or a crappy t-shirt as a reward instead of banning them as a punishment. Call it what you want, they're developing content for you, and while he's pushed the line in the past, $27.95 per year is not an unreasonable price for the amount of content a guy like GM develops. Maybe if that happened, there would be fewer people #####ing.

You're not on this plan? I have enough free t-shirts to last a month.

I wasn't considering myself a good poster, and I'd be shocked if Joe thought you were. You must be getting hooked up by the weak link. Thanks for nothing, Carlton.

Most of the lower-tier mods can be bought.

You bought your "free t-shirts"? Nice job, Otis.

Co-opted work better for you, Christo?

 

[bostonfred]

I wasn't considering myself a good poster, and I'd be shocked if Joe thought you were. You must be getting hooked up by the weak link. Thanks for nothing, Carlton.

Most of the lower-tier mods can be bought.

You bought your "free t-shirts"? Nice job, Otis.

Co-opted work better for you, Christo?

Sorry. You can go back to name dropping, bueno.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Watching bostonfred and Mr. Pickles go at it is more entertaining than watching golf on TV.

 

[Righetti]

Rush is a horrible band, now I play guitar for over 10 years, and yes they are talented and I respect that, but they fail the ear test.

this isn't public sentiment

 

[kaa]

Liberals are completely incapable of engaging in an intellectual debate. Its an endless stream of straw man arguments, misdirections, deflections, and personal attacks. The only difference I've ever seen between the Michael Moore's of the world and the more eloquent liberals is that the eloquent ones tend to be better at it. But as soon as you trap in their own crap, they devolve into laughing at you and insulting your mother. Although sometimes they just run and hide in their little enclaves.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I wasn't considering myself a good poster, and I'd be shocked if Joe thought you were. You must be getting hooked up by the weak link. Thanks for nothing, Carlton.

Most of the lower-tier mods can be bought.

You bought your "free t-shirts"? Nice job, Otis.

Co-opted work better for you, Christo?

Sorry. You can go back to name dropping, bueno.

I appreciate everything you do around here, Ministry of Pain.

 

[bostonfred]

People with ugly mothers tend to make false generalizations.