Sabertooth
Footballguy
I've had him for one week. Last week. Not impressed but going to hold. Last week was a glitch.
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Prediction: Brandon Lloyd will be (remain) a top 10 WR this season (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
How is it possible that the #1 wr gets only 3 targets in a week where the team was blown out of the water and they were forced to pass all day?
gregjcross
Footballguy
I doubt he goes back, this guy is living on two huge games. Story of his career and of Denver since that coach arrived.
JbizzleMan
Footballguy
I hate hearing stuff like this!!! I have him in my lineup over MW(TB) and now I am re-thinking the whole thing after last weeks epic fail!!! UUUUGH!!
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Considering he got hurt last week and he has faced Asomugha and Revis the previous two weeks I think holding is also the call right now. If he lights it up again though you've got to try and move him in dynasty. Even if he does well the rest of the year I don't feel like this is going to be something going on for the next 3-5 years.
Zackattack
Footballguy
I don't know the guy has been in the league 7-8 years? He has never been much. I figured he would come down to earth sooner or later. Denver spreads the ball too. Did you notice Knowshon is back as well. They are gonna run more now or attempt too atleast. If you are counting on lloyd putting up WR1 number from here on out good luck. You will be happy if he performs like a WR2 or WR3.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Actually its 4 big games. He's only had too below average games.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Through 7 games last season Brandon Marshall had 33 catches for 356 yards and 4 touchdowns. Lloyd currently has 35 catches for 709 and 3 touchdowns.
I don't know that anyone expects Lloyd to end the season with 1600 yards. But I have a hard time finding a big reason to see a precipitous dropoff in his numbers from here on out. You say be happy with WR2/3 numbers. So let's look at that a little bit. Averaging out all players from 18 to 30 we find that the numbers say a WR2/3 is about 29 catches for 360 yards and 3 touchdowns.
So you are predicting that if Lloyd and Orton stay healthy we can expect a similar number of catches but a 50% drop in yards per catch and his touchdowns to remain the same. I guess I'd like you to unpack that a little bit.
I don't know that anyone expects Lloyd to end the season with 1600 yards. But I have a hard time finding a big reason to see a precipitous dropoff in his numbers from here on out. You say be happy with WR2/3 numbers. So let's look at that a little bit. Averaging out all players from 18 to 30 we find that the numbers say a WR2/3 is about 29 catches for 360 yards and 3 touchdowns.
So you are predicting that if Lloyd and Orton stay healthy we can expect a similar number of catches but a 50% drop in yards per catch and his touchdowns to remain the same. I guess I'd like you to unpack that a little bit.
Oscar
Footballguy
Very possible. Denver did not target any of their wide receivers the entire game when Asomugha was covering them. Asomugha covered Lloyd almost the entire game. It's the Revis effect in Oakland. I would expect Mike Williams of Seattle to come back to earth after Asomugha covers him all day on Sunday. Lloyd is fine. He may not end up top-10, but in that offense he will certainly produce at least top-20 numbers.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
He also was hurt for part of the game last week if I read correctly.
gregjcross
Footballguy
Ive always thought of Lloyd as a nice sleeper. I saw him in predraft workouts, i saw him with the 49ers. I obviously thought higher of him than NFL front office people because while the Miami Dolphins two years ago sported the worst WR group in the league (Ted Ginn, Greg Camarillo, D. Bess etc.) as they were in a 1-15 season, Lloyd had sat as a free agent. Denver is ok, maybe not as wonderful as the stats can lead us to believe. But more so, the cold weather is going to bite the behinds of people dependign on their passing game as will tougher opponents. I personally would not want B.Lloyd as anything more than a #2 WR (More ideally a #3) going into December.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
People overrate the weather so much. Denver's offense is a throwing offense, they will continue to throw even when it gets cold.
he has always had talent .... he just lost jobs because he has had some bouts of the dropsies
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He's halfway there on the yardage.
RespektMyGangsta
Footballguy
Cheesedawg
Footballguy
I wish I had heard a good explanation as to why Lloyd is playing like this, but I haven't. Maybe he solved some personal issues which have made a difference. Whatever it is, Lloyd is playing great and his pairing with Orton is a big part of it. If Orton gets hurt, sell immediately IMO.
Orton is a strike thrower and Lloyd's timing, route-running, and hands are in perfect harmony with him. Looks like the only way to stop Denver is to put a shutdown corner on Lloyd, and there aren't many of those.
Orton is a strike thrower and Lloyd's timing, route-running, and hands are in perfect harmony with him. Looks like the only way to stop Denver is to put a shutdown corner on Lloyd, and there aren't many of those.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Yeah, I can't explain it either, but I've embraced it by trading for him in dynasty. Couldn't be happier about the move.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Since his rookie year, Lloyd has had the following quarterbacks throwing to him:Tim RattayKen DorseyAlex SmithCody PickettJason CampbellMark Brunell (for 9 games at the end of his career)Todd CollinsYou can make a pretty good argument that Kyle Orton is the best quarterback that Lloyd has ever played with.
Ken Masters
Footballguy
I think that people need to realize that for a WR to be successful in the NFL, a lot of it will depend on who is throwing to him and what kind of system they are playing in and if it matches well with their route running and talent. Lloyd is a stud this year because Orton and Denver's system seem to match his playmaking ability and it has obviously shown thus far.
Not only that, but Denver has a lot of weapons which opens it up more for him probably moreso ever in his career. Just my 2 cents.
Not only that, but Denver has a lot of weapons which opens it up more for him probably moreso ever in his career. Just my 2 cents.
Choke
Footballguy
Look at the tripe that is Rotoworld...
Brandon Lloyd-WR- Broncos Oct. 24 - 7:46 pm et
Brandon Lloyd was held to one reception for 46 yards against the Raiders in Week 7.
Lloyd pulled a disappearing act, and he was targeted just just three times on the afternoon. His one reception came on the Broncos' final drive in extreme garbage time with many of the Raiders starters long gone. Lloyd's best games of the season are behind him, but he should retain WR3 value heading into next week's game at San Francisco.
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Brandon Lloyd-WR- Broncos Oct. 31 - 4:58 pm et
Brandon Lloyd caught seven passes for 169 yards with a touchdown in Sunday's 24-16 loss to the 49ers.
There shouldn't be a doubt that Lloyd is the NFL's most improved player. He makes ridiculously difficult catches regularly (he had a spectacular one-handed touchdown catch today) and gets behind the defense with ease. Lloyd is on pace for 84 catches, 1,756 yards and eight touchdowns. He won't quite maintain that spectacular pace, but we're not selling high either. Lloyd is for real.
Brandon Lloyd-WR- Broncos Oct. 24 - 7:46 pm et
Brandon Lloyd was held to one reception for 46 yards against the Raiders in Week 7.
Lloyd pulled a disappearing act, and he was targeted just just three times on the afternoon. His one reception came on the Broncos' final drive in extreme garbage time with many of the Raiders starters long gone. Lloyd's best games of the season are behind him, but he should retain WR3 value heading into next week's game at San Francisco.
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Brandon Lloyd-WR- Broncos Oct. 31 - 4:58 pm et
Brandon Lloyd caught seven passes for 169 yards with a touchdown in Sunday's 24-16 loss to the 49ers.
There shouldn't be a doubt that Lloyd is the NFL's most improved player. He makes ridiculously difficult catches regularly (he had a spectacular one-handed touchdown catch today) and gets behind the defense with ease. Lloyd is on pace for 84 catches, 1,756 yards and eight touchdowns. He won't quite maintain that spectacular pace, but we're not selling high either. Lloyd is for real.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Wow, that is terrible. I understand they have more than one writer but those are polar opposite opinions.Look at the tripe that is Rotoworld...
Brandon Lloyd-WR- Broncos Oct. 24 - 7:46 pm et
Brandon Lloyd was held to one reception for 46 yards against the Raiders in Week 7.
Lloyd pulled a disappearing act, and he was targeted just just three times on the afternoon. His one reception came on the Broncos' final drive in extreme garbage time with many of the Raiders starters long gone. Lloyd's best games of the season are behind him, but he should retain WR3 value heading into next week's game at San Francisco.
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Brandon Lloyd-WR- Broncos Oct. 31 - 4:58 pm et
Brandon Lloyd caught seven passes for 169 yards with a touchdown in Sunday's 24-16 loss to the 49ers.
There shouldn't be a doubt that Lloyd is the NFL's most improved player. He makes ridiculously difficult catches regularly (he had a spectacular one-handed touchdown catch today) and gets behind the defense with ease. Lloyd is on pace for 84 catches, 1,756 yards and eight touchdowns. He won't quite maintain that spectacular pace, but we're not selling high either. Lloyd is for real.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Great stuff in this thread, especially on page 1.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
I sold high on Lloyd earlier this year, dealing him straight up for Cedric Benson. My RB corps was horribly depleted, so it was a bit of a desperate move.
Looking back, I really wish I kept Lloyd.
Looking back, I really wish I kept Lloyd.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I would have made that deal; quite often Denver seemed like a four-headed WRBC, and Lloyd was ranked fourth in that group by most people.He's been an even bigger surprise than Hillis IMO. You just don't see an 7, 8 year journeyman bust out with a pro bowl year. Its a great story and I don't think anyone (other than the OP) saw it coming.I sold high on Lloyd earlier this year, dealing him straight up for Cedric Benson. My RB corps was horribly depleted, so it was a bit of a desperate move.Looking back, I really wish I kept Lloyd.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
I was going to suggest Joe Horn but Horn broke out in his 5th year. Ed McCaffrey had his first 1000 yard season in his 8th year, but he'd been a productive #3 WR for several years before that.
Willy
Footballguy
I remember Tony Martin developed very late. He was nearly as useless as Lloyd for most of his career, then he started to do well when he was 29. He had a monster season in 1996 when he was 31. But he was at least moving in the right direction for 2 years leading up to his monster season. What has made Lloyd so shocking to me, is I half thought he was out of the league already. He has done virtually nothing for many years now. Now all of the sudden he's awesome. Nobody saw it coming. Heck, I bet he didn't even roster himself in any leagues prior to the season.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Supposedly Kyle Orton really liked him back in Chicago, then Lloyd got hurt and was out for an extended time. I wonder if Orton played a part in getting him to Denver.
I love this thread. Lloyd's second TD catch today was unreal. And his first was Orton going to him, double covered, on a set play inside the 5. How many WRs can you say that about? No one knows exactly how this happened, this thread does a good job of examining all the options, but he is playing like the best WR in the league. Great story.
-jb-
Footballguy
Now on pace for 1721/11.On pace for 1885/10.
