Priest Holmes (1 Viewer)

[detroitwhat]

I vision about 15 carries a game at 4 yards per carry=60 yards rushing and about three receptions a game and ofcourse one of his famous goal line leap touchdowns every other game. Pretty solid #2 RB in a PPR system.

What do you guys think?

 

[TeddyKGB]

LJ was averaging 3.5 per carry and a rushing TD about every 3 games, so I'm not sure Priest does much better than that.

 

[MNFlyingBoat]

Right, I was thinking Priest would be a good pickup due to that easy schedule. But looking at it, KC has already played some pretty easy teams to rush on in Oak, and Cinci, plus Houston and Chicago, and yet they rank 30th in the league with less than 80 yds per game! It sounds like it is an OL problem that Priest isn't going to solve. So I am thinking to trade him to the LJ owner or maybe hold on to him and see if something materializes, but I think I have thought myself out of starting him this week.

Not knowing that much about LJ or Priest, it is not my concern that Priest is worse than LJ. He could be better, but it is the team that is not looking very good and it sounds like Herm isn't thinking Priest would get all the carries Larry was getting, so even if he were a bit better he wouldn't get the production that LJ got.

 

[az_prof]

I think Priest has more speed to get outside on runs than LJ and that might be an advantage.

 

[Jack Burton]

At age thirty four I doubt Holmes has the speed to get outside much anymore. He has been away from the game for two years.

 

[Da Guru]

I think Priest has more speed to get outside on runs than LJ and that might be an advantage.

Priest may need a Priest..for last rights.

 

[az_prof]

At age thirty four I doubt Holmes has the speed to get outside much anymore. He has been away from the game for two years.

Obviously, that is the question. I think that Priest had so much more speed than LJ to begin with that even a 34 year old Priest has more than LJ. We shall see. I certainly don't think you can expect 2003 type Priest numbers. He is older and can't carry the ball 20 plus times a game. But I think he will be more effective in limited carries than LJ was.

 

[Da Guru]

I picked up Holmes 3 weeks ago in case of injury.

What are you expecting?

If a 27 year old stud RB in his prime is fighting tooth and nail for every yard with a weak o-line and passing game what can we expect from a 34 year old RB who has not played in two years?

I am not expecting much. Kolby Smith may be the play.

 

[chuckw]

At age thirty four I doubt Holmes has the speed to get outside much anymore. He has been away from the game for two years.

Obviously, that is the question. I think that Priest had so much more speed than LJ to begin with that even a 34 year old Priest has more than LJ. We shall see. I certainly don't think you can expect 2003 type Priest numbers. He is older and can't carry the ball 20 plus times a game. But I think he will be more effective in limited carries than LJ was.

Woah!! I am a Chiefs fan that has seen almost every game the past 8 years or so. Priest doesnt even have close to the top end speed that LJ has. Priest might be a HAIR faster at getting to his top speed, but still doesnt have close to the top speed that LJ does. I remember a while back when Priest was good that each offseason he was working on his top speed because he rarely broke the big run. Now... combine that he didnt have great top speed to begin with... his running style is to wait for the holes to open.... he is 34 years old... the KC offensive line is TERRIBLE!!!!... the play calling is TERRIBLE!!! he will be lucky to crack 3 yards a carry.I predict a lot of 15/50 type games for Priest. Not many TDs either unless they start throwing to Bowe more... they just cant sustain drives. Plus... Priest isnt exactly made of steel.Dont count on Kolby Smith either people. The only good thing about KC's team is Jared Allen.... well.. and Bowe and Gonzalez... but they dont have anyone to get them the ball.... or the offensive line to block for someone to get them the ball.

 

[I'm Rick James]

At age thirty four I doubt Holmes has the speed to get outside much anymore. He has been away from the game for two years.

whoa, whoa, whoa, not so fast with the age thing -- Joey Galloway

 

[chuckw]

At age thirty four I doubt Holmes has the speed to get outside much anymore. He has been away from the game for two years.

whoa, whoa, whoa, not so fast with the age thing -- Joey Galloway

Was Joey Galloway starting to lose it even before he left football for 2 years?Priest isnt going to break any long runs this year... but speed isnt the problem there. It's blocking. Well... even if he did have good blocking he wouldn't break any long ones. (I've watched every Chiefs game Priest and LJ has ever played)

 

[detroitwhat]

I love the insight, keep it coming.



A couple things to touch upon

a)Priests next three games: Denver, @Indy, Oakland. All three can be run upon. For example, Ron Dayne got over a 100 yards against Oakland. I'm pretty sure Priest can outrun the great dayne.

b)Remember Ricky Williams coming off a pretty long layoff and producing for the 2nd half of the 2005 season? I feel sometimes it can benefit a back to be out for a certain amount of time. Less toll on the body can also be interpreted as the guy has fresher legs and hasn't taken the beating to cause him to lose any explosiveness. Priest has proven before that he can overcome injuries and return to proper form. Lets remember he is coming back from a neck injury, not a foot or knee or hamstring or anything else that may have caused him to lose a step.

c)Priest is a strong receiver out of the backfield. In PPR leagues, he can be valuable.

2001 62 receptions

2002 70 receptions

2003 74 receptions

I guess we really wont know until Sunday about Priests prospects. However, we can look at history to provide us direction on whats a reasonable expectation.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

You guys need to watch KC games....NFL Network just got done with the replay...you would have seen Preist had little burst left and the couple sweeps he ran looked like they were in slo mo compared to 2001-2005.

In cases like this, you really need to see the player to know the extent of the situation.

 

[azngangster]

Pick him up just for the novelty factor, so you can say you have the Padre on your team. Anyway you slice it, it is a great story nonetheless. The mainstream thought he was done for his career and now he might get 15-20 carries a game as a starting tailback. Unreal.

 

[SteelerMurf]

You guys need to watch KC games....NFL Network just got done with the replay...you would have seen Preist had little burst left and the couple sweeps he ran looked like they were in slo mo compared to 2001-2005.In cases like this, you really need to see the player to know the extent of the situation.

he only had 3 carries.....and when he runs sweeps I vividly remember he always goes slow, then finds a lane and cuts back to burs thru the hole....there was no hole as that defense is GOOD

 

[chuckw]

You guys need to watch KC games....NFL Network just got done with the replay...you would have seen Preist had little burst left and the couple sweeps he ran looked like they were in slo mo compared to 2001-2005.In cases like this, you really need to see the player to know the extent of the situation.

he only had 3 carries.....and when he runs sweeps I vividly remember he always goes slow, then finds a lane and cuts back to burs thru the hole....there was no hole as that defense is GOOD

SteelerMurf.... dont drink the koolaid.Yes.... you are right... that is Priest's running style, but it's not going to work with this year's offensive line. Priest has just got too many things going against him to be much of a fantasy asset this year. RB3... AT BEST.

 

[ready5]

sure a lot of "woah"-ing going on in this thread.

my answer to your question: after how badly he injured his spinal column, i'm just glad the guy's not produce.

(get it? "produce"? see, you asked "will he produce" and then... see how it's a pun? you see what i did there? fine. whatever. screw it.)

 

[SteelerMurf]

You guys need to watch KC games....NFL Network just got done with the replay...you would have seen Preist had little burst left and the couple sweeps he ran looked like they were in slo mo compared to 2001-2005.In cases like this, you really need to see the player to know the extent of the situation.

he only had 3 carries.....and when he runs sweeps I vividly remember he always goes slow, then finds a lane and cuts back to burs thru the hole....there was no hole as that defense is GOOD

SteelerMurf.... dont drink the koolaid.Yes.... you are right... that is Priest's running style, but it's not going to work with this year's offensive line. Priest has just got too many things going against him to be much of a fantasy asset this year. RB3... AT BEST.

I don't have him so I won't drink....actually I may get on the Smith bandwagon as he is the only one in football shape

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I'm very skeptical of Priest 2007. He's old, hasn't played in forever and obviously isn't a long-term solution for the team. I think that younger guy (forgot his name) will have every opportunity to split carries and become the starter if he produces.

Besides, how confident is everyone that he can take the punishment of several weeks in the NFL? Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see it. I think people are just picking up the name on the waiver wire. Low risk, of course so I don't blame them. But I wouldn't expect anything.

 

[heinfatha]

I honestly believe that Priest won't make it through one whole game. Never mind the fact that he is 34 and way over the hill by runnoing back standards. This guy suffered a career ending type neck injury that most agreed he should never play football again. He is one good stick away from a stretcher. I hope I am wrong because I used to love the guy, but I just don't think this will end well for him.

 

[MDSkinner]

I think Priest has more speed to get outside on runs than LJ and that might be an advantage.

I do not believe Priest has more speed to get to the outside than LJ. I do not believe he ever did even in his prime.

 

[ALDO]

What about for just one game..? Against Denver.

 

[the spanker]

What about for just one game..? Against Denver.

Your still pushing it.

 

[turleyfan]

Dropped LaMont for him in one league. As an RB4, it's a gamble I'm willing to take.

Ronnie Brown and Caddy owners looking to replace an Rb1 / Rb2 need not apply.

 

[bjabrad]

just for the record, I don't think speed is the issue here as much as vision and I think that Holmes has better vision (although I do want to point out that I just watched the replay on NFLN and Homes missed a cutback to the left and got hung up in the pile vs GB where he would have gained an easy 7-10 yds). I think he'll need more than 3 carries to get a groove.

I think his strengths are vision, agility and acceleration. I don't remember speed being his forte for a long time if ever but I don't think speed is the main thing I want from a RB.

I think that Holmes will play well and look better than LJ in terms of yards per carry and that his receiving and blocking skills will make the OL look better. Add in a healthy Kennison, an improving Parker, a hopefully healthy Bowe and Gonzo playing lights out and you've got a balanced offense if Herm chooses to throw first.

Holmes is a high end target in my mind but will LJ return or is he done for the year?

 

[barista]

I haven't seen games but know that 3 carries aren't enough to get running. Has he been in for a full series yet since coming back?