pro-football-reference.com Suggestion Box (1 Viewer)

[inca911]

As I was doing my usual scouting of matchups for the week using Doug's site, I thought of a suggestion. Please add your suggestions for how you look at the data and use this football resource. Thanks!

It would be nice if the 2006 team data were sortable by selection of any one column attribute (e.g., rushing yardage). The default of total points is nice, but the ability to view data in various formats is a real plus.

 

[Chase Stuart]

As I was doing my usual scouting of matchups for the week using Doug's site, I thought of a suggestion. Please add your suggestions for how you look at the data and use this football resource. Thanks!It would be nice if the 2006 team data were sortable by selection of any one column attribute (e.g., rushing yardage). The default of total points is nice, but the ability to view data in various formats is a real plus.

Hey inca911,Glad you love PFR as much as I do. I would never speak for Doug, and I think it's a good suggestion. I know I'd like to see that too. Right now, I just copy and paste into excel, which isn't a huge deal.But I doubt we're going to see that. Sortable columns would probably slow down the site a bit. PFR isn't about pretty images or fancy graphics or special coding. It's a big, accurate, data dump. And I think that's the way Doug wants to keep it.But definitely keep the suggestions coming.

 

[redman]

As I was doing my usual scouting of matchups for the week using Doug's site, I thought of a suggestion. Please add your suggestions for how you look at the data and use this football resource. Thanks!It would be nice if the 2006 team data were sortable by selection of any one column attribute (e.g., rushing yardage). The default of total points is nice, but the ability to view data in various formats is a real plus.

Hey inca911,Glad you love PFR as much as I do. I would never speak for Doug, and I think it's a good suggestion. I know I'd like to see that too. Right now, I just copy and paste into excel, which isn't a huge deal.But I doubt we're going to see that. Sortable columns would probably slow down the site a bit. PFR isn't about pretty images or fancy graphics or special coding. It's a big, accurate, data dump. And I think that's the way Doug wants to keep it.But definitely keep the suggestions coming.

I doubt Doug would appreciate you calling his site a "dump".

 

[Chase Stuart]

As I was doing my usual scouting of matchups for the week using Doug's site, I thought of a suggestion. Please add your suggestions for how you look at the data and use this football resource. Thanks!It would be nice if the 2006 team data were sortable by selection of any one column attribute (e.g., rushing yardage). The default of total points is nice, but the ability to view data in various formats is a real plus.

Hey inca911,Glad you love PFR as much as I do. I would never speak for Doug, and I think it's a good suggestion. I know I'd like to see that too. Right now, I just copy and paste into excel, which isn't a huge deal.But I doubt we're going to see that. Sortable columns would probably slow down the site a bit. PFR isn't about pretty images or fancy graphics or special coding. It's a big, accurate, data dump. And I think that's the way Doug wants to keep it.But definitely keep the suggestions coming.

I doubt Doug would appreciate you calling his site a "dump".

Data dump is a term of endearment for some of us, redman.

 

[redman]

As I was doing my usual scouting of matchups for the week using Doug's site, I thought of a suggestion. Please add your suggestions for how you look at the data and use this football resource. Thanks!It would be nice if the 2006 team data were sortable by selection of any one column attribute (e.g., rushing yardage). The default of total points is nice, but the ability to view data in various formats is a real plus.

Hey inca911,Glad you love PFR as much as I do. I would never speak for Doug, and I think it's a good suggestion. I know I'd like to see that too. Right now, I just copy and paste into excel, which isn't a huge deal.But I doubt we're going to see that. Sortable columns would probably slow down the site a bit. PFR isn't about pretty images or fancy graphics or special coding. It's a big, accurate, data dump. And I think that's the way Doug wants to keep it.But definitely keep the suggestions coming.

I doubt Doug would appreciate you calling his site a "dump".

Data dump is a term of endearment for some of us, redman.

 

[hector31]

Doug's site is fantastic, I go there every day during the football season. I also give a small donation to the site, I wish it were more (and as I can give more, I will).

My humble suggestion, and I've sent it to him, is to have the player stats on the team pages sorted by something other than name/alpha. IMHO, some sort of yardage sort high-to-low, or perhaps a participation-based sort (say attempts/rushes/receptions high-to-low) makes more sense, but it's a tiny, miniscule thing. I love what he's created and I'm sure most intelligent football fans do, too.

 

[redman]

Doug's site is fantastic, I go there every day during the football season. I also give a small donation to the site, I wish it were more (and as I can give more, I will). My humble suggestion, and I've sent it to him, is to have the player stats on the team pages sorted by something other than name/alpha. IMHO, some sort of yardage sort high-to-low, or perhaps a participation-based sort (say attempts/rushes/receptions high-to-low) makes more sense, but it's a tiny, miniscule thing. I love what he's created and I'm sure most intelligent football fans do, too.

In case it's been lost amidst the fooling around, I too love that site. I probably reference it on average a half-dozen times per day. It's a great football resource.

 

[inca911]

Right now, I just copy and paste into excel, which isn't a huge deal.

How do you get it to paste into Excel with info in the appropriate columns? When I've tried that, it all goes into the same single cell within each row. As a specific example, cell A1 has the following info after a cut/paste: "Chicago Bears 221 138 227 1680 7.4 13 7 218 731 3.4 6"

 

[Mike]

Right now, I just copy and paste into excel, which isn't a huge deal.

How do you get it to paste into Excel with info in the appropriate columns? When I've tried that, it all goes into the same single cell within each row. As a specific example, cell A1 has the following info after a cut/paste: "Chicago Bears 221 138 227 1680 7.4 13 7 218 731 3.4 6"

Highlight the cells in the one column, and you should be able to split them apart using Data > Text to Columns > Fixed Width.

 

[Mike]

I can only make an educated guess here, but I don't believe the pages at PFR are dynamically generated. Doug runs a program which hits the database and creates the flat HTML pages, upload and there you go.

Assuming this is correct, enabling sorting would be a nightmare because you can just image how many more pages would need to be created. Say on average 5 columns per page... sort both ways ascending and descending... would be 10 times the pages than there are now.

Of course, if the pages are generated dynamically now every time a person hits a page then the sorting would be possible. My thoughts are Doug has it set up the other way because the webhosting would be quite a bit more expensive and still result in likely a slower website if the pages are generated dynamically.

Hmm... I guess there is another way the columns could be sorted without creating additional pages using JavaScript, but that would eliminate the simple

code

look and feel they have now.

 

[inca911]

Highlight the cells in the one column, and you should be able to split them apart using Data > Text to Columns > Fixed Width.

 

[Yitbos69]

PFR is the only site I was able to find the career #'s for my wife's brother Sammy Johnson who played for SF,Minn, and GB from 74-79. My father-in-law(Sammy's Dad) really thought it was neat to see his son's career stats

PFR is just an awsome site of pure data!!

 

[BGP]

Honestly, there are so few games during an NFL season that is it beyond the realm of possibility to just keep the entire play-by-plays of every single game there?

Now if you're feeling really frisky, set up some sort of google search thingy where you can pull up all "events" logged in the play-by-plays, such as RB x carries the ball or defensive TDs, etc.

 

[Marc Levin]

Not trying to throw salt in anyone's game - Doug appreciates suggestions for improvement to the site - but the likelihood of any suggestions being both practical and affordable depends on more people having this attitude:

Doug's site is fantastic, I go there every day during the football season. I also give a small donation to the site, I wish it were more (and as I can give more, I will).

 

[redman]

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[Floyd The Barber]

I like Doug's site as well and use it for researching my players past performances against that week's opponent.

Any chance that the home and road designations can added to the player stats? That can be incredibly useful in trying to figure out past player performance, especially in divisional games.

 

[Doug Drinen]

1. Thanks for the nice words, everyone. And I also appreciate the suggestions.

2. I do indeed consider "a big data dump" to be compliment, and a good description of the site.

3. in terms of sortable columns, that's not really too big of a task. It could be done without bogging down the site too much. It's just a matter of finding the time to get some behind-the-scenes stuff re-organized.

4. With regard to Levin's comments:

Doug appreciates suggestions for improvement to the site - but the likelihood of any suggestions being both practical and affordable depends on more people having this attitude:

Doug's site is fantastic, I go there every day during the football season. I also give a small donation to the site, I wish it were more (and as I can give more, I will).

The site costs very little (money) to run. For those that don't know this, after I pay the site's expenses, all remaining money is donated to charity. Last year I was able to raise $3000 for charity, and I'm proud of that. I hope to do better this year. So I do very much appreciate the donations. It also takes very little time to maintain p-f-r. The nice thing about this site is that I could drop dead tomorrow and it would remain a valuable resource for awhile as is. The site really hasn't changed much in the last several years. However, the level of detail and completeness demanded by today's web surfer has increased dramatically since the early days of p-f-r, and it's clear that p-f-r needs to make several serious improvements in order to keep pace with what people want. And making changes to the current structure will cost a lot of time or money or both.

This offseason, I plan to rebuild p-f-r from the ground up. Fear not, it will maintain the "dumpy" look and feel, so users may not even notice the change immediately, but I will be making it much slicker on the back end so that it's easier to add some bells and whistles like those being suggested in this thread. Further, I will either be purchasing a lot of data or creating a system that will allow volunteers to enter data that can easily be integrated into the site. Or both.

On opening day of the NFL season in 2007, the site will be much better than it is now.

 

[JayMan]

As I was doing my usual scouting of matchups for the week using Doug's site, I thought of a suggestion. Please add your suggestions for how you look at the data and use this football resource. Thanks!It would be nice if the 2006 team data were sortable by selection of any one column attribute (e.g., rushing yardage). The default of total points is nice, but the ability to view data in various formats is a real plus.

So this is why you lead the Freelance Article league... hmm, interesting - very interesting I agree with the all of the postings above... PFR is definitely the best data dump there is on the net... and Doug is going to make it even better by '07?... Alleluia!...

 

[RageRhino]

Right now, I just copy and paste into excel, which isn't a huge deal.

How do you get it to paste into Excel with info in the appropriate columns? When I've tried that, it all goes into the same single cell within each row. As a specific example, cell A1 has the following info after a cut/paste: "Chicago Bears 221 138 227 1680 7.4 13 7 218 731 3.4 6"

Instead of simply pastingselect "Paste Special...." under the edit menu instead.this will being up a small dialog box with data options.choose the "unicode text" option and click ok.it will paste the information into seperate cells correcty. then you can format and adjust cell size, etc.....a lot easier and more efficient than the other method described above.

 

[inca911]

One additional request:

Is it possible to add recovered fumbles to the DST rankings? INTs are on there....

 

[Marc Levin]

Whle we're at it, one of the hardest stats to quickly find are SACKS AGAINST (how many sacks does a QB take in a year?) - and I don't think that stats is anywhere on P-F-R

 

[Chase Stuart]

Whle we're at it, one of the hardest stats to quickly find are SACKS AGAINST (how many sacks does a QB take in a year?) - and I don't think that stats is anywhere on P-F-R

PFR doesn't have it, but it's not hard to find. It's on the main NFL stats page.

 

[inca911]

If the site is intended to be used as a fantasy football reference, how about points scored and points allowed broken down into the primary FF positions? I like knowing that Carolina is one of the worst at defending the TE positon this year. This would be similar to the 2006 team offense and defensive tables. For instance, one page would have total kicking points scored by team and total kicking points allowed by team. Same thing for TEs, etc.

 

[redman]

If the site is intended to be used as a fantasy football reference, how about points scored and points allowed broken down into the primary FF positions? I like knowing that Carolina is one of the worst at defending the TE positon this year. This would be similar to the 2006 team offense and defensive tables. For instance, one page would have total kicking points scored by team and total kicking points allowed by team. Same thing for TEs, etc.

mfl.com already has that precise kind of function.

 

[inca911]

If the site is intended to be used as a fantasy football reference, how about points scored and points allowed broken down into the primary FF positions? I like knowing that Carolina is one of the worst at defending the TE positon this year. This would be similar to the 2006 team offense and defensive tables. For instance, one page would have total kicking points scored by team and total kicking points allowed by team. Same thing for TEs, etc.

mfl.com already has that precise kind of function.

I also use a different site with that function, which also does some forward projections, but I'd use Doug's site more if he had it too. Not sure if more use of site = more revenue....