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Ghost Rider
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Love that article on Pujols and Stan The Man. 
Check this one out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl...ols-cover_N.htm
Pujols, 29, says he was tested six times last year as part of MLB's drug policy. But if that's not good enough, Pujols vows to take a test every day and, if he is caught using performance-enhancing drugs, he says, he will pay back the Cardinals every penny he has earned.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, who has the most home runs at the All-Star break since Barry Bonds hit 39 and Luis Gonzalez hit 35 in 2001. "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I copied and pasted the most interesting part of the article. Click on the link to read the rest of it. The whole thing is good.
Check this one out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl...ols-cover_N.htm
Pujols, 29, says he was tested six times last year as part of MLB's drug policy. But if that's not good enough, Pujols vows to take a test every day and, if he is caught using performance-enhancing drugs, he says, he will pay back the Cardinals every penny he has earned.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, who has the most home runs at the All-Star break since Barry Bonds hit 39 and Luis Gonzalez hit 35 in 2001. "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I copied and pasted the most interesting part of the article. Click on the link to read the rest of it. The whole thing is good.
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That's a great clip. It makes feel a bit better but in this era and with some of the likes of Sosa and his go ahead and test me line, I'm still skeptical.Love that article on Pujols and Stan The Man.
Check this one out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl...ols-cover_N.htm
Pujols, 29, says he was tested six times last year as part of MLB's drug policy. But if that's not good enough, Pujols vows to take a test every day and, if he is caught using performance-enhancing drugs, he says, he will pay back the Cardinals every penny he has earned.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, who has the most home runs at the All-Star break since Barry Bonds hit 39 and Luis Gonzalez hit 35 in 2001. "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I copied and pasted the most interesting part of the article. Click on the link to read the rest of it. The whole thing is good.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
In a very real... and legally-binding sense.I love the guy, and I hope he's not using. But it's just words.iSnitch said:That's a great clip. It makes feel a bit better but in this era and with some of the likes of Sosa and his go ahead and test me line, I'm still skeptical.Love that article on Pujols and Stan The Man.
Check this one out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl...ols-cover_N.htm
Pujols, 29, says he was tested six times last year as part of MLB's drug policy. But if that's not good enough, Pujols vows to take a test every day and, if he is caught using performance-enhancing drugs, he says, he will pay back the Cardinals every penny he has earned.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, who has the most home runs at the All-Star break since Barry Bonds hit 39 and Luis Gonzalez hit 35 in 2001. "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I copied and pasted the most interesting part of the article. Click on the link to read the rest of it. The whole thing is good.
Statorama
Footballguy
Is there some kind of league directive that Pujols has to be pitched to? Absolutely no one else in that lineup scares me at all, and I'd be more than willing to tip my cap to them if they beat me. But damn, there's no sane reason to actually throw that guy a pitch near the strike zone. Every single time he swings the bat, I repeat the mantra "why the hell are they pitching to him???".
I just don't get it. How many times does he have to beat you all by himself before you stop pitching to the guy?
I just don't get it. How many times does he have to beat you all by himself before you stop pitching to the guy?
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
In a 2-0 game last night they gave him the intentional with runners at 1st and 3rd. Ludwick drove in 2. Hopefully he can keep that up in the second half. The only way the intentionals don't come more frequently is if Ludwick makes them pay.Statorama said:
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RnR
Footballguy
To be fair, it was 2-0 because of two solo HRs from Albert. One of them was even on a 3-0 fastball. Ooof.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Holding him to a solo HR might be a win.
Statorama
Footballguy
That guy should be walked everytime he's up. If Ludwick and his .260 average beat you, then that's just a loss you're going to have to take.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
For the record, following a a Pujols walk this season:
Ryan Ludwick is 16 for 33.
The rest of the team is 4 for 28.
So, it is simple: As long as he is healthy, Ludwick stays in the cleanup spot.
And for those not following the team, Ludwick has been on fire. He is finally healthy it seems, and it is showing.
Ryan Ludwick is 16 for 33.
The rest of the team is 4 for 28.
So, it is simple: As long as he is healthy, Ludwick stays in the cleanup spot.
And for those not following the team, Ludwick has been on fire. He is finally healthy it seems, and it is showing.
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Statorama
Footballguy
Good for him. I'll take my chances with a Ryan Ludwick over an Albert Pujols 7 days out of 7.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Oh, I would, too. I am just saying, it is gonna be more difficult to pitch about Pujols if Ludwick keeps hitting the ball well.
dparker713
Footballguy
The guys infront of Pujols need to hit, its harder to pitch around a guy when a couple of men are on base with 1 out than it is with nobody on and Ruth on deck.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Amazing, ain't it? Last night was great, too. The Cardinals blew a 5-0 lead in the 5th, allowing the Pirates to score 6 runs and take the lead, but sure enough, in the top of the 6th, Pujols crushes a 3-run HR to give them the lead back, which they did not relinquish. The guy is so good, it is almost too good to be true.
Wrigley
Footballguy
hmmmmmmmm
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
As good as Pujols is, his RC/G is about half that of Bonds at his roided out peak. Think about that: half.
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
That shows you just how much 'roids effect the game. A player not as good as Pujols, doubling him up statistically?!? Cocaine 'roids....it's a helluva drug.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Don't mind Wrigley. He can never resist the temptation to imply that Pujols is 'roiding. I mean, his team is a pathetic franchise that hasn't won a World Series championship in over 100 years, so for him and other Cubs fans, praying that the biggest star on their most hated rival, a highly successful franchise at that, is on PEDs is all they have. Sad what it has come to for them. 
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Oh Yes!
Footballguy
its sad thats what baseball has become. id be more surprised if anyone was clean.Don't mind Wrigley. He can never resist the temptation to imply that Pujols is 'roiding. I mean, his team is a pathetic franchise that hasn't won a World Series championship in over 100 years, so for him and other Cubs fans, praying that the biggest star on their most hated rival, a highly successful franchise at that, is on PEDs is all they have. Sad what it has come to for them.
Wrigley
Footballguy
Watch it there Rider, you were the one who said it's almost too good to be true.I merely pointed out that it may be.......are you suggesting you've never considered it a possibility that he's using?Don't mind Wrigley. He can never resist the temptation to imply that Pujols is 'roiding. I mean, his team is a pathetic franchise that hasn't won a World Series championship in over 100 years, so for him and other Cubs fans, praying that the biggest star on their most hated rival, a highly successful franchise at that, is on PEDs is all they have. Sad what it has come to for them.
JZilla
Footballguy
1. Sports is entertainment. 2. He still hits into an out more often than not
JZilla
Footballguy
dparker713
Footballguy
2. Not much more often (.445 OBP)1. Sports is entertainment. 2. He still hits into an out more often than not
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
You don't pay attention, do you? I have said numerous times over the years that I wouldn't be surprised by ANY MLB player testing positive for using PEDs, Albert Pujols included. However, given the stunning consistency that he has shown over the years, he would be a bit more surprising that guys like Ortiz, Sosa, etc., all of whom had sudden offensive spikes in their careers. Pujols' numbers are pretty consistent, year after year. There has been no spike or sudden surge in any of his numbers.Watch it there Rider, you were the one who said it's almost too good to be true.I merely pointed out that it may be.......are you suggesting you've never considered it a possibility that he's using?Don't mind Wrigley. He can never resist the temptation to imply that Pujols is 'roiding. I mean, his team is a pathetic franchise that hasn't won a World Series championship in over 100 years, so for him and other Cubs fans, praying that the biggest star on their most hated rival, a highly successful franchise at that, is on PEDs is all they have. Sad what it has come to for them.
Wrigley
Footballguy
No, I don't pay attention.Guy is a machine, I am mostly just jealous.You don't pay attention, do you? I have said numerous times over the years that I wouldn't be surprised by ANY MLB player testing positive for using PEDs, Albert Pujols included. However, given the stunning consistency that he has shown over the years, he would be a bit more surprising that guys like Ortiz, Sosa, etc., all of whom had sudden offensive spikes in their careers. Pujols' numbers are pretty consistent, year after year. There has been no spike or sudden surge in any of his numbers.Watch it there Rider, you were the one who said it's almost too good to be true.I merely pointed out that it may be.......are you suggesting you've never considered it a possibility that he's using?Don't mind Wrigley. He can never resist the temptation to imply that Pujols is 'roiding. I mean, his team is a pathetic franchise that hasn't won a World Series championship in over 100 years, so for him and other Cubs fans, praying that the biggest star on their most hated rival, a highly successful franchise at that, is on PEDs is all they have. Sad what it has come to for them.
Did Manny and A-Rod have sudden surges in their numbers?
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Eephus
Footballguy
massive jerk - checkamazing hitter - checkone of the first steroid users to get caught -
Wrigley
Footballguy
Yeah, he'll get his day in court.massive jerk - checkamazing hitter - checkone of the first steroid users to get caught -
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
A-Rod's power numbers have gone up a good amount since leaving Seattle, but he has always been a tremendous hitter, so the PEDs probably turned him from a great hitter to a really great hitter. Semantics? Maybe, but who knows? Odds are, he would have been an all-time great w/o the PEDs. Same with Bonds. As for Ramirez, he has been caught twice already, and who knows how many times he has not gotten caught, so I think it is probable that he has been juicing for most of his career.
Very true.
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
That's going on my ceiling.
Regular Crust Pizza
Footballguy
That's sounding less and less likely.Yeah, he'll get his day in court.massive jerk - checkamazing hitter - checkone of the first steroid users to get caught -
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Unfortunately, for me, I will not consider anyone who played in the steriod era the greatest of anything. Baseball records and comparisons from era to era have been forever tainted.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I guess grand jury testimony where Bonds', under oath, admitted to taking the cream and the clear isn't enough evidence?That's sounding less and less likely.Yeah, he'll get his day in court.massive jerk - checkamazing hitter - checkone of the first steroid users to get caught -
What do you need, videotape evidence of him injecting himself. The cream and clear were undetectable in steriod tests until the IOC testing arm got a sample in 2003.I don't understand this line of thinking. I believe a great deal of players were/are juicing. Sure, Bonds' numbers wouldn't have been quite as obscene if he were clean, but his numbers were so far and away compared to other roided up contemporaries I just don't understand how you can't say he was one of the best hitters of his generation.And the best hitter of ANY generation belongs in the discussion for greatest of all time...And comparing era to era is a difficult and virtually impossible task to achieve no matter what the circumstances. So much changes throughout the years. It's just best imo to say player x is amongst the best of his era and leave it at that. You can appreciate, or at least respect, someone's greatness if you have reason to dislike, or even despise them.
Eephus
Footballguy
Discussions about the greatest of all time are and always will be subjective.Records and statistics in general are quantitative. Numbers can't be tainted although the players who accumulated them certainly can.
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
A friend of mine just sent me this and asked me if it was real.
To be fair he lives in Springfield, MO so that explains a lot.
To be fair he lives in Springfield, MO so that explains a lot.
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