Put a 22 year old Larry Allen in the 2006 NFL (1 Viewer)

[Texasmouth]

If he got by Oakland, I could see him falling out of the 1st round.

Is that because he didn't block in a pro style offense in college?

Now that is funny.

 

[Sweetness_34]

I dont think a guard could ever go in the top 5.

Leonard Davis was taken 2nd overall.

But Davis was drafted as a OT....he just was not good enough to play OT once they tried him there....so they moved him to OG....and he is not that good over there either seeng how badly the AZ RBs have been doing in AZ (and then seeing what the do once they leave AZ - see Thomas Jones, Michael Pittman)

 

[yellowdog]

I dont think a guard could ever go in the top 5.

1973 NFL Draft1 Oilers John Matuszak DE Tampa

2 Colts Bert Jones QB Louisiana State

3 Eagles Jerry Sisemore T Texas

4 Patriots John Hannah G Alabama

5 Cardinals Dave Butz DT Purdue

6 Eagles Charles Young TE USC

7 Bills Paul Seymour TE Michigan

8 Bears Wallace Chambers DE Eastern Kentucky

9 Broncos Otis Armstrong RB Purdue

10 Colts Joe Ehrmann DT Syracuse

11 Patriots Sam Cunningham RB USC

12 Vikings Chuck Foreman RB Miami (FL)

13 Jets Burgess Owens DB Miami (FL)

14 Oilers George Amundson RB Iowa State

15 Bengals Isaac Curtin WR San Diego State

16 Browns Steve Holden WR Arizona State

17 Lions Earnest Price DE Texas A&I

18 49ers Mike Holmes DB Texas Southern

19 Patriots Darryl Stingley WR Purdue

20 Cowboys Billy Joe Dupree TE Michigan State

21 Packers Barry Smith WR Florida State

22 Browns Pete Adams T USC

23 Raiders Ray Guy P Southern Mississippi

24 Steelers James Thomas DB Florida State

25 Chargers Johnny Rodgers WR Nebraska

26 Bills Joe Delamielleure G Michigan State

 

[diesel7982]

I dont think a guard could ever go in the top 5.

1973 NFL Draft1 Oilers John Matuszak DE Tampa

2 Colts Bert Jones QB Louisiana State

3 Eagles Jerry Sisemore T Texas

4 Patriots John Hannah G Alabama

5 Cardinals Dave Butz DT Purdue

6 Eagles Charles Young TE USC

7 Bills Paul Seymour TE Michigan

8 Bears Wallace Chambers DE Eastern Kentucky

9 Broncos Otis Armstrong RB Purdue

10 Colts Joe Ehrmann DT Syracuse

11 Patriots Sam Cunningham RB USC

12 Vikings Chuck Foreman RB Miami (FL)

13 Jets Burgess Owens DB Miami (FL)

14 Oilers George Amundson RB Iowa State

15 Bengals Isaac Curtin WR San Diego State

16 Browns Steve Holden WR Arizona State

17 Lions Earnest Price DE Texas A&I

18 49ers Mike Holmes DB Texas Southern

19 Patriots Darryl Stingley WR Purdue

20 Cowboys Billy Joe Dupree TE Michigan State

21 Packers Barry Smith WR Florida State

22 Browns Pete Adams T USC

23 Raiders Ray Guy P Southern Mississippi

24 Steelers James Thomas DB Florida State

25 Chargers Johnny Rodgers WR Nebraska

26 Bills Joe Delamielleure G Michigan State

So basically, every OG taken in the top 5 in the NFL Draft has become a HOFer.

 

[yellowdog]

The Vikings signed Steve Hutchinson for #1 type money. Larry Allen > Steve Hutchinson. Larry Allen's career is worth a number 1 draft pick, IMO.

 

[Englishteacher]

Are you just bored

had really bad insomnia last night and am reading a book called "The Draft". Good read, but yes, I'd rather have sleep.

 

[Phlash]

I would NOT draft a guard with the #1 pick overall no matter how good he is. End of story. The position just doesn't carry enough importance in the grand scheme of things. Are you going to pay a guard #1 money? Heck no.

Hutchinson is a great example as someone already pointed out. He was as close to a "can't miss" prospect as I've seen in years at the guard position. He didn't sniff the top 10. I'd venture to say a safety will NEVER be drafted #1 overall either. Sean Taylor was regarded as the perhaps the best prospect in the last decade. Granted, he broke the top 10 but wasn't ever going to go top gun.

Larry wasn't just a guard. They played him at left tackle for a couple years and he was still a Pro-Bowler and in fact was the All-Pro left tackle at least one season.

 

[corpcow]

The Vikings signed Steve Hutchinson for #1 type money. Larry Allen > Steve Hutchinson. Larry Allen's career is worth a number 1 draft pick, IMO.

They paid him #1 money, but they didn't give up a #1 pick - big difference. I didn't see Houston offer up their 1.1 pick and they definitely need some help on the line. Can you really build a team around an offensive lineman? An interior lineman? (This coming from a former offensive lineman ).

The OL pick comes with less risk but also less reward. There wouldn't be a debate if you had a sure-fire HOF QB. The point, I think, is that the possibility of getting that HOF QB or RB, if you think the possibility is high enough, might be worth more than Larry Allen.

Now, I'm not suggesting that OL isn't important. It's very important - just look around the league at the teams that are struggling and that's clear. Yes, a superstar OL can help out the rest of the guys, but I'd still rather have a cohesive unit that's solid across the board than one single stud guard.