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First thing I thought when I read this article.This is getting ugly. Remember when McNair was barred from the facility, then he was traded?
Bud is afraid that if he cans Fisher, the team takes a huge ####. It will and he will look like a fool.So much for Bud Adams promising Vince and Fisher will both be back next year. One of the two needs to go.
they are looking pretty turd like right now.Bud is afraid that if he cans Fisher, the team takes a huge ####. It will and he will look like a fool.So much for Bud Adams promising Vince and Fisher will both be back next year. One of the two needs to go.
This.Randy Moss seems to be carrying a curse lately.
I think you might have some Freudian issues to explore.Vince sabotages his own career. Reggie Bush and him were two of the best college players I've seen, and that Young-Bush Championship was one for the ages. After that game I thought that we might be embarking on a Young-Bush NFL era, but between Reggie's injuries and Vince's meltdowns I don't think we'll ever seen anything like those Young-Bush days on the pro level.
DoodI think you might have some Freudian issues to explore.Vince sabotages his own career. Reggie Bush and him were two of the best college players I've seen, and that Young-Bush Championship was one for the ages. After that game I thought that we might be embarking on a Young-Bush NFL era, but between Reggie's injuries and Vince's meltdowns I don't think we'll ever seen anything like those Young-Bush days on the pro level.
I think you might have some Freudian issues to explore.Vince sabotages his own career. Reggie Bush and him were two of the best college players I've seen, and that Young-Bush Championship was one for the ages. After that game I thought that we might be embarking on a Young-Bush NFL era, but between Reggie's injuries and Vince's meltdowns I don't think we'll ever seen anything like those Young-Bush days on the pro level.
Maybe I should drop Moss before his curse touches my team as well.This.Randy Moss seems to be carrying a curse lately.![]()
Really? Read it again, without the hyphens.I think you might have some Freudian issues to explore.Vince sabotages his own career. Reggie Bush and him were two of the best college players I've seen, and that Young-Bush Championship was one for the ages. After that game I thought that we might be embarking on a Young-Bush NFL era, but between Reggie's injuries and Vince's meltdowns I don't think we'll ever seen anything like those Young-Bush days on the pro level.![]()
Maybe it doesn't translate well to Polish.Evilgrin 72 said:Really? Read it again, without the hyphens.Polish Hammer said:LittlePhatty said:I think you might have some Freudian issues to explore.Clinton said:Vince sabotages his own career. Reggie Bush and him were two of the best college players I've seen, and that Young-Bush Championship was one for the ages. After that game I thought that we might be embarking on a Young-Bush NFL era, but between Reggie's injuries and Vince's meltdowns I don't think we'll ever seen anything like those Young-Bush days on the pro level.![]()
If he was able to sign Cowher I wouldn't mind losing Fisher but I hope the move wouldn't be to please Vince. I do think Cowher is the right guy and the Titans the best team he could coach. I haven't given up on Fisher, he's a good coach, but if they got Cowher they'd be in the Super Bowl in a couple years or less.jeff fisher is a great coach and he will be at the top of coaching candidates for next year if bud adams makes the biggest mistake in titans frachise history and lets him go only to please vince young. vince will be an afterthought in all things NFL within 2 years.
yeah Cowher would certainly take the sting out of losing fisher... and at least he brings a solid mustache back to the sideline. but you can't tell me if the line was drawn and you had to go fisher or VY... you would go VY??? not me.If he was able to sign Cowher I wouldn't mind losing Fisher but I hope the move wouldn't be to please Vince. I do think Cowher is the right guy and the Titans the best team he could coach. I haven't given up on Fisher, he's a good coach, but if they got Cowher they'd be in the Super Bowl in a couple years or less.jeff fisher is a great coach and he will be at the top of coaching candidates for next year if bud adams makes the biggest mistake in titans frachise history and lets him go only to please vince young. vince will be an afterthought in all things NFL within 2 years.
Titans statement:"Tennessean reports indicating that Vince Young is not welcome at Baptist Sports Park are incorrect. Yesterday, he was informed by a coach at the facility not to attend Monday's team meeting and was free to leave. The intention was to be able to talk to the team about Young's situation and how the team would move forward. Players that are on injured reserve are not required to attend team meetings. As of today, he has been placed on injured reserve and all the same rules apply to him as to any other player in that category."
The Titans need to work on their spin control.Titans statement:“Tennessean reports indicating that Vince Young is not welcome at Baptist Sports Park are incorrect. Yesterday, he was informed by a coach at the facility not to attend Monday’s team meeting and was free to leave. The intention was to be able to talk to the team about Young’s situation and how the team would move forward. Players that are on injured reserve are not required to attend team meetings. As of today, he has been placed on injured reserve and all the same rules apply to him as to any other player in that category.”
If you believe this "statement" then I have a few bridges to sell you.The "statement" smells like it's "Fish"er covering his ### since it's clear that VY is not welcome as long as he's still the coachTitans statement:“Tennessean reports indicating that Vince Young is not welcome at Baptist Sports Park are incorrect. Yesterday, he was informed by a coach at the facility not to attend Monday’s team meeting and was free to leave. The intention was to be able to talk to the team about Young’s situation and how the team would move forward. Players that are on injured reserve are not required to attend team meetings. As of today, he has been placed on injured reserve and all the same rules apply to him as to any other player in that category.”
The whoosh wasn't for me...I meant that I thought Clinton didn't seem to get it was written out tongue-in-cheek. I thought it was pretty damn funny.Evilgrin 72 said:Really? Read it again, without the hyphens.Polish Hammer said::whoosh:LittlePhatty said:I think you might have some Freudian issues to explore.Clinton said:Vince sabotages his own career. Reggie Bush and him were two of the best college players I've seen, and that Young-Bush Championship was one for the ages. After that game I thought that we might be embarking on a Young-Bush NFL era, but between Reggie's injuries and Vince's meltdowns I don't think we'll ever seen anything like those Young-Bush days on the pro level.
Fisher has been with the Titans long enough, with no Super Bowl victory to show for it. He probably needs to go sooner or later.I don't even know why canning fisher is even on the table. Assinine.
He does the best he can with the talent he's given.Couple examples-There's been like 100 WRs on the Titans since Warren Moon's days of having four good WRs and the only good one has been Mason. Kenny Britt was (or seemed to be) the first time they ever drafted one highly. Other than McNair at QB, they gave him Billy Joe Tolliver, much older Kerry, Bucky Richardson, Cody Carlson, older Chris Chandler, Billy Volek and a plethora of guys that (literally) no other team wanted.His great DL and OL during his tenure were more often not the result of high draft picks but later picks that panned out well. Even some of these second round linemen, that's pretty late for a "star" DE, DT or OT. If they were a star, they'd have gone in round 1 and probably very early.Fisher has been with the Titans long enough, with no Super Bowl victory to show for it. He probably needs to go sooner or later.I don't even know why canning fisher is even on the table. Assinine.
Supposedly it was because him being on IR means that he doesn't have to be at "team" meetings and this mornings meeting was going to be about how the "team" was going to be moving forward the rest of the year without him.What irks me even more is that Fisher didn't have the cajones to tell VY himself he sent one of the other coaches to ask VY to leaveIf it's true, it's a low-class move by the Titans. He's still a member of the team. You don't kick a guy out of the facility. He's part of the team. Very disrespectful. No matter how he acted, you don't kick him out of the building.
. . . unless the guy's behaving like a complete horse's ###, which could certainly have been the case here.If it's true, it's a low-class move by the Titans. He's still a member of the team. You don't kick a guy out of the facility. He's part of the team. Very disrespectful. No matter how he acted, you don't kick him out of the building.
Could have been Vince behaving poorly and the guy in charge of the weight room (largely for that reason, since they have trainers) asked him to leave. I don't know what the reason is, but I don't think it's reasonable for anyone to predict without a doubt that Vince acted like an angel after his tantrum the day before. I mean if he mouthed off and insulted everyone in the weight room, that'd be the immaturity we've unfortunately come to expect. If that's the case, Fisher not giving details is a good thing.Supposedly it was because him being on IR means that he doesn't have to be at "team" meetings and this mornings meeting was going to be about how the "team" was going to be moving forward the rest of the year without him.What irks me even more is that Fisher didn't have the cajones to tell VY himself he sent one of the other coaches to ask VY to leaveIf it's true, it's a low-class move by the Titans. He's still a member of the team. You don't kick a guy out of the facility. He's part of the team. Very disrespectful. No matter how he acted, you don't kick him out of the building.
One week earlier, Vince skipped the team meeting on his own volition, plus he skipped warmups/workouts before the game.A low-class move by Vince Young. LinkIf it's true, it's a low-class move by the Titans. He's still a member of the team.
From what I was hearing this morning Fisher doesn't want VY at "team" meetings / practices / games (but he can still get his treatments at the facilities. Fisher is definitely sending a message to Bud that it's me (Fisher) or him (VY) IMHOCould have been Vince behaving poorly and the guy in charge of the weight room (largely for that reason, since they have trainers) asked him to leave. I don't know what the reason is, but I don't think it's reasonable for anyone to predict without a doubt that Vince acted like an angel after his tantrum the day before. I mean if he mouthed off and insulted everyone in the weight room, that'd be the immaturity we've unfortunately come to expect. If that's the case, Fisher not giving details is a good thing.Supposedly it was because him being on IR means that he doesn't have to be at "team" meetings and this mornings meeting was going to be about how the "team" was going to be moving forward the rest of the year without him.What irks me even more is that Fisher didn't have the cajones to tell VY himself he sent one of the other coaches to ask VY to leaveIf it's true, it's a low-class move by the Titans. He's still a member of the team. You don't kick a guy out of the facility. He's part of the team. Very disrespectful. No matter how he acted, you don't kick him out of the building.
Not really feeling "sorry" for the guy as it's clear he's not "perfect" BUT Fisher isn't totally blameless either.One week earlier, Vince skipped the team meeting on his own volition, plus he skipped warmups/workouts before the game.A low-class move by Vince Young. LinkIf it's true, it's a low-class move by the Titans. He's still a member of the team.
If you are feeling sorry for Vince then you've fallen for his "victim" act. This is exactly what he wants.
linkThen there was one report that he missed a rehab session or sessions during the Titans' bye week and another that said he missed a meeting last Friday.
Someone inside the building told me before Jeff Fisher said it at Monday’s press conference that Young was not asked to be in Nashville for treatment during the team’s time off. So scratch the rehab story.
And it would have been awfully hard for Young to miss a Friday meeting since the team was off Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
So we’ve got the record straight there.