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Frenchy Fuqua
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Dilfer should be thankful that he has an NFL contract.
hydroxybear
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Dilfer = speed
Slinger
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Report says unhappy Browns quarterback would prefer to be traded to San Francisco
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Trent Dilfer wants to be traded because he is unhappy with his situation with the Browns, according to a Channel 3 news report.
The 49ers are said to be the team interested in Dilfer as a backup for Alex Smith, the first overall pick in the 2005 draft. Dilfer wants to play for the 49ers, according to a source in San Francisco, because they are the closest team to his hometown of Fresno, Calif.
Dilfer told a friend he thought he would be traded Sunday, according to a source. The 49ers tried to acquire Dilfer from Seattle in the 2005 offseason, but offered only a sixth-round draft choice. The Browns beat that by giving the Seahawks a fourth-round draft pick in 2005.
A phone message left for Browns general manager Phil Savage was not immediately returned Monday night, but Savage said through a team spokesman that the team will not comment on trade rumors.
The television report comes one day after Savage contacted the Detroit Lions about a possible trade for quarterback Joey Harrington. That trade never gained momentum because Harrington told Savage he does not want to play for the Browns.
"The trade was contingent on Harrington going to Cleveland," a source in San Francisco said. "When that died, the Browns couldn't move Dilfer because they don't have another veteran quarterback."
Dilfer reportedly wants to play for another team because of disagreements with Browns offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon. That the two did not see eye-to-eye last year became evident when the Browns squandered precious seconds at the end of the first half in Minnesota. Dilfer could have spiked the ball to allow time to attempt scoring a touchdown. Instead, the Browns settled for a field goal.
Asked afterward why he didn't spike the ball, Dilfer answered, clearly displeased: "I do what I'm told."
As it turned out, that was the last game Dilfer started.
It is believed the first choice of Savage and Coach Romeo Crennel is to keep Dilfer and let him compete with Charlie Frye for the starting job. At the very least, they want Dilfer to be Frye's mentor, but only if Dilfer were content in that role.
Dilfer, 34, was 4-7 as a starter last year. Frye started the last five games and went 2-3.
Dilfer is under contract to the Browns for three more years. It is unlikely Crennel and Savage would hold Dilfer to the contract if Dilfer demanded a trade, but they would sign a veteran before granting Dilfer his wish, it is believed. When asked Sunday whether Dilfer is unhappy with the Browns, Savage said: "I can't answer that."
Savage said he was interested in Harrington as a backup. One quarterback who could fit that role is Kerry Collins, who like Harrington is represented by agent David Dunn. Dunn was unavailable for comment Monday night.
Collins has played 11 seasons with Carolina, New Orleans, the Giants and Oakland. He completed 302 of 565 passes for 3,759 yards with 20 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions last season. He was released for salary cap reasons.
©The News-Herald 2006
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Trent Dilfer wants to be traded because he is unhappy with his situation with the Browns, according to a Channel 3 news report.
The 49ers are said to be the team interested in Dilfer as a backup for Alex Smith, the first overall pick in the 2005 draft. Dilfer wants to play for the 49ers, according to a source in San Francisco, because they are the closest team to his hometown of Fresno, Calif.
Dilfer told a friend he thought he would be traded Sunday, according to a source. The 49ers tried to acquire Dilfer from Seattle in the 2005 offseason, but offered only a sixth-round draft choice. The Browns beat that by giving the Seahawks a fourth-round draft pick in 2005.
A phone message left for Browns general manager Phil Savage was not immediately returned Monday night, but Savage said through a team spokesman that the team will not comment on trade rumors.
The television report comes one day after Savage contacted the Detroit Lions about a possible trade for quarterback Joey Harrington. That trade never gained momentum because Harrington told Savage he does not want to play for the Browns.
"The trade was contingent on Harrington going to Cleveland," a source in San Francisco said. "When that died, the Browns couldn't move Dilfer because they don't have another veteran quarterback."
Dilfer reportedly wants to play for another team because of disagreements with Browns offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon. That the two did not see eye-to-eye last year became evident when the Browns squandered precious seconds at the end of the first half in Minnesota. Dilfer could have spiked the ball to allow time to attempt scoring a touchdown. Instead, the Browns settled for a field goal.
Asked afterward why he didn't spike the ball, Dilfer answered, clearly displeased: "I do what I'm told."
As it turned out, that was the last game Dilfer started.
It is believed the first choice of Savage and Coach Romeo Crennel is to keep Dilfer and let him compete with Charlie Frye for the starting job. At the very least, they want Dilfer to be Frye's mentor, but only if Dilfer were content in that role.
Dilfer, 34, was 4-7 as a starter last year. Frye started the last five games and went 2-3.
Dilfer is under contract to the Browns for three more years. It is unlikely Crennel and Savage would hold Dilfer to the contract if Dilfer demanded a trade, but they would sign a veteran before granting Dilfer his wish, it is believed. When asked Sunday whether Dilfer is unhappy with the Browns, Savage said: "I can't answer that."
Savage said he was interested in Harrington as a backup. One quarterback who could fit that role is Kerry Collins, who like Harrington is represented by agent David Dunn. Dunn was unavailable for comment Monday night.
Collins has played 11 seasons with Carolina, New Orleans, the Giants and Oakland. He completed 302 of 565 passes for 3,759 yards with 20 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions last season. He was released for salary cap reasons.
©The News-Herald 2006
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Generally 34-year old career underachieving QBs earning $2 mill per year aren't in high demand. Ask Jeff Blake and Tommy Maddox. Perhaps for the vet minimum Dilfer could hold a clipboard for a few more seasons.
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big picture: trent dilfer would be an excellent addition to the 49ers. his infuence could only help alex smith
was nolan in baltimore when dilfer played there?
was nolan in baltimore when dilfer played there?
5Rings
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I never thought I would see the day when I was actually happy to add Trent Dilfer to my team's roster.
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At least it would be an upgrade over Cowboy Cody and duck-slinging Dorsey... 
Frank Black
Footballguy
Having Dilfer would be good for the 49rs. Smith needs a veteran mentor, and if he gets hurt, Dilfer would probably perform better than Dorsey. Also, Dilfer already has a history with A. Bryant.
Frenchy Fuqua
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What am I completely wrong about? Cleveland has arguably the worst set of QBs in the league and yet they still want to get rid of their only veteran QB. Why? Because Dilfer is an unskilled, unhappy, overaged, overpaid QB.
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wadegarrett
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I'm not sure how this is considered an exaggeration. I think you'd be hard pressed to come up with many worse combos than Dilfer and Frye.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
You find all of these combos comparable:Kyle Boller and Brian St. PierreI'm not sure how this is considered an exaggeration. I think you'd be hard pressed to come up with many worse combos than Dilfer and Frye.
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J.P. Losman and Kelly Holcomb
Rex Grossman and Brian Griese
David Carr and Sage Rosenfels
Jon Kitna and Josh McCown
Brad Johnson and Mike McMahon
Chad Pennington and Patrick Ramsey
Aaron Brooks and Marques Tuiasosopo
Alex Smith and Ken Dorsey
Philip Rivers and A.J. Feeley
Chris Simms and Luke McCown
Mark Brunell and Jason Campbell
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
Yeah... a guy who won a Superbowl as a starting QB and has the longest pass in Superbowl history under his belt is a "career underachieving QB." Maybe you can tell me all about those other great Tedford QB's who have done better than he has. What exactly did you expect him to do with his career out of college that you think Dilfer has underachieved?
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Dilfer was the 6th pick overall in the '94 Draft. For his career he's thrown more INTs than TDs and has a 71.2 career passer rating. I think most teams that spend a top 10 pick on a QB expect better career numbers than what Dilfer has posted. Dilfer fans seem to forget all of that and focus on his Montana-esque Super Bowl run. Well let's look at his stats from the Ravens 4 playoff wins in 2000:35 completions (in 4 games) on 73 attempts
Three of four games he had less than 10 completions
48% Completions overall
590 yards passing (147.5 per game)
Clearly the Ravens D and their running game won them the Super Bowl. Dilfer's job was not to get in the way. This wasn't a case, like Mark Rypien, of a scrub QB catching fire for one season.
You find all of these combos comparable:Kyle Boller and Brian St. Pierre - agreedI'm not sure how this is considered an exaggeration. I think you'd be hard pressed to come up with many worse combos than Dilfer and Frye.
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J.P. Losman and Kelly Holcomb - agreed
Rex Grossman and Brian Griese - disagree
David Carr and Sage Rosenfels - disagree
Jon Kitna and Josh McCown - disagree
Brad Johnson and Mike McMahon - disagree
Chad Pennington and Patrick Ramsey - disagree
Aaron Brooks and Marques Tuiasosopo - disagree
Alex Smith and Ken Dorsey - agree
Philip Rivers and A.J. Feeley - agree
Chris Simms and Luke McCown - push
Mark Brunell and Jason Campbell - disagree
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Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
Exactly. He's done quite well for himself. No, he's no Tom Brady, but he's done well enough to justify being a 1st-round QB. Certainly more than guys like Smith, Couch, etc. have.Dilfer's done just fine. Yes, it'd be nice if all top-10 picked QBs ended up as superstars. That's not the way it goes. That doesn't make them all underachievers.
pettifogger
Footballguy
From SF local press today:
Briefly: The 49ers have a renewed interest in Cleveland quarterback Trent Dilfer, whom they nearly traded for last year. One NFL source said the 49ers might have made an offer for Dilfer on Sunday if the Browns could have swung a deal for Lions quarterback Joey Harrington. Cleveland apparently doesn't want to trade Dilfer unless they it has a veteran replacement to compete with Charlie Frye. Harrington said he was only interested in going to the Dolphins. Dilfer attended Aptos High School.
SF Chronicle report on 49er draft
Briefly: The 49ers have a renewed interest in Cleveland quarterback Trent Dilfer, whom they nearly traded for last year. One NFL source said the 49ers might have made an offer for Dilfer on Sunday if the Browns could have swung a deal for Lions quarterback Joey Harrington. Cleveland apparently doesn't want to trade Dilfer unless they it has a veteran replacement to compete with Charlie Frye. Harrington said he was only interested in going to the Dolphins. Dilfer attended Aptos High School.
SF Chronicle report on 49er draft
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
Dilfer would be an incredibly valuable addition to any team in the league with a green starting QB. He played just as much of a role (if not more) in the maturation process of Matt Hasselbeck as Brett Favre did.
I don't think he's capable of anything but spot duty as a starting QB in the NFL now, but he's going to give you a chance to win every game that he plays in.
I don't think he's capable of anything but spot duty as a starting QB in the NFL now, but he's going to give you a chance to win every game that he plays in.
Pygmy Marmoset
Footballguy
And he could very easily play the developmental veteran role for some up-and-coming QB. He'd be good for Frye if Frye will listen, or Alex Smith if Smith will listen. He'll still have some years ahead of him.
Akron Beacon Journal
(Below the Keith story)
Dilfer update
Backup quarterback Trent Dilfer has not asked the Browns to release him or to trade him, he said Monday.
``I have not asked for anything,'' Dilfer said, adding he is very happy playing for the Browns.
Dilfer was responding to reports that the Browns tried to acquire quarterbacks Joey Harrington and Marques Tuiasosopo during draft weekend.
General Manager Phil Savage emphatically stated that the team would not release Dilfer if another backup for Charlie Frye was acquired, adding he only wanted to strengthen the team.
Dilfer declined further comment.
(Below the Keith story)
Dilfer update
Backup quarterback Trent Dilfer has not asked the Browns to release him or to trade him, he said Monday.
``I have not asked for anything,'' Dilfer said, adding he is very happy playing for the Browns.
Dilfer was responding to reports that the Browns tried to acquire quarterbacks Joey Harrington and Marques Tuiasosopo during draft weekend.
General Manager Phil Savage emphatically stated that the team would not release Dilfer if another backup for Charlie Frye was acquired, adding he only wanted to strengthen the team.
Dilfer declined further comment.
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Pick
Footballguy
You need to add Anthony Wright and Doug Johnson and Craig Krenzel to that list until Palmer returns.You find all of these combos comparable:Kyle Boller and Brian St. PierreI'm not sure how this is considered an exaggeration. I think you'd be hard pressed to come up with many worse combos than Dilfer and Frye.
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J.P. Losman and Kelly Holcomb
Rex Grossman and Brian Griese
David Carr and Sage Rosenfels
Jon Kitna and Josh McCown
Brad Johnson and Mike McMahon
Chad Pennington and Patrick Ramsey
Aaron Brooks and Marques Tuiasosopo
Alex Smith and Ken Dorsey
Philip Rivers and A.J. Feeley
Chris Simms and Luke McCown
Mark Brunell and Jason Campbell
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Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Pretty steep price SF paid for Dilfer:
Gargoylez
Footballguy
Dilfer is probably top 3backups in the NFL... HUGE addition for the niners anyway your slice it.
I find it amazing sometimes how fans can be so dense when it comes to players.
DILFER = GREAT COMMODITY. Not all that expensive, can manage a game, and is a great mentor. Awesome backup QB and an average starter. Whats the problem here. CLeveland just lost their only backup (Unless they sign someone) and if Frye goes down or struggles... Cleveland goes down or struggles.
I find it amazing sometimes how fans can be so dense when it comes to players.
DILFER = GREAT COMMODITY. Not all that expensive, can manage a game, and is a great mentor. Awesome backup QB and an average starter. Whats the problem here. CLeveland just lost their only backup (Unless they sign someone) and if Frye goes down or struggles... Cleveland goes down or struggles.
