QB Jalen Hurts, PHI (1 Viewer)

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
Jalen Hurts completed 16-of-20 passes for 236 yards and a touchdown, +20.2% CPOE, the 3rd-highest CPOE by a quarterback in a game this season and the highest mark of Hurts' career.

Over 10 Air Yards: 6/7, 161 yards, TD

#PHIvsCIN | #FlyEaglesFly

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Jalen Hurts' 45-yard TD pass to DeVonta Smith traveled 59.3 yards in the air, the longest completion of Hurts' career.

Target Separation: 0.8 yds
Completion Probability: 21.6%
Win Probability Added: +16.5%

#PHIvsCIN | #FlyEaglesFly

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[Faust]

Jalen Hurts' best plays from 4-TD game vs. Bengals | Week 8

 

[Runkle]

Asked about Hurts’ absence from Wednesday’s practice for “rest” purposes, Sirianni revealed Hurts is dealing with an ankle issue, even going so far as to say it was “on the injury report.” He was then “corrected” by an Eagles PR person that Hurts’ absence was “rest” related.

Sirianni accidentally reveals Hurts has ankle inj.

Speaking Friday, Eagles coach Nick Sirianni accidentally revealed Jalen Hurts is dealing with an ankle injury.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[travdogg]

Asked about Hurts’ absence from Wednesday’s practice for “rest” purposes, Sirianni revealed Hurts is dealing with an ankle issue, even going so far as to say it was “on the injury report.” He was then “corrected” by an Eagles PR person that Hurts’ absence was “rest” related.

Sirianni accidentally reveals Hurts has ankle inj.

Speaking Friday, Eagles coach Nick Sirianni accidentally revealed Jalen Hurts is dealing with an ankle injury.

www.nbcsports.com

Watching this, it seems less shady than rotoworld is making it sound. It sounded like Sirianni misheard who they were asking about, as he never said Hurts name. He was asked about Hurts, he said ankle, the reporter then asked "wait, Hurts has an ankle injury?" then Sirianni said Hurts was rest, and that he thought he was asking about someone else.

I'm no Sirianni defender, but I can pretty easily believe he just misheard who the reporter was asking about, especially since there are multiple guys on the injury report with ankle injuries.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Jalen Hurts is the first QB in NFL history with a pass TD, rush TD, and 100+ passer rating in 4 consecutive games.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Jalen Hurts is the first QB in NFL history with 4 seasons of 10+ rush TD -- breaking a tie with Cam Newton.

Hurts is also the first QB in NFL history with 4 straight seasons of 10+ rush TD.

Hurts is the only QB in league history to do this in consecutive seasons.

 

[VikingFrog]

Jalen Hurts is the first QB in NFL history with 4 seasons of 10+ rush TD -- breaking a tie with Cam Newton.

Hurts is also the first QB in NFL history with 4 straight seasons of 10+ rush TD.

Hurts is the only QB in league history to do this in consecutive seasons.

He’s also the first QB who’s team has been told to go down at the 1 yard line.

/s

 

[travdogg]

Jalen Hurts is the first QB in NFL history with 4 seasons of 10+ rush TD -- breaking a tie with Cam Newton.

Hurts is also the first QB in NFL history with 4 straight seasons of 10+ rush TD.

Hurts is the only QB in league history to do this in consecutive seasons.

He's also been the best player in the NFC since the bye week in my opinion. Sneaky MVP candidate with the remaining schedule.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Jalen Hurts is the first QB in NFL history with 4 seasons of 10+ rush TD -- breaking a tie with Cam Newton.

Hurts is also the first QB in NFL history with 4 straight seasons of 10+ rush TD.

Hurts is the only QB in league history to do this in consecutive seasons.

He’s also the first QB who’s team has been told to go down at the 1 yard line.

/s

It's amazing how many times the Eagles get stopped at the 1 yard line.

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
Jalen Hurts, who was pressured on over half of his dropbacks against the Cowboys (53.6%), finished 7-of-9 for 115 yards and 2 touchdowns passing under pressure (+27.2% CPOE).

Since Week 3, Hurts has thrown 4 TDs and 0 INTs under pressure.

#PHIvsDAL | #FlyEaglesFly

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[ShamrockPride]

Jalen Hurts is the first QB in NFL history with 4 seasons of 10+ rush TD -- breaking a tie with Cam Newton.

Hurts is also the first QB in NFL history with 4 straight seasons of 10+ rush TD.

Hurts is the only QB in league history to do this in consecutive seasons.

He’s also the first QB who’s team has been told to go down at the 1 yard line.

/s

It's amazing how many times the Eagles get stopped at the 1 yard line.

Luckily they have the best goal line finisher in the game with Hurts....him or Montgomery.

 

[kyoun1e]

Awful quiet in here.

Enjoying the tush push lately but feel like we may get a massive hit of negative regression at some point.

The passing volume is super low. And now that the D is coming around there's potentially not a great need to air it out.

I'd be more concerned if say, I owned D. Smith.

 

[Runkle]

Tending to an ankle issue today, was noted as Limited. Expected to be Full for the rest of this week's practices. Says it stems from the Thursday game vs. Washington and not the fictional ankle injury Sirianni did or didn't refer to on 11/8.

 

[travdogg]

Awful quiet in here.

Enjoying the tush push lately but feel like we may get a massive hit of negative regression at some point.

The passing volume is super low. And now that the D is coming around there's potentially not a great need to air it out.

I'd be more concerned if say, I owned D. Smith.

I was kind of thinking the opposite, that the passing volume likely goes up against good offenses like the Rams and Ravens.

 

[sm8680]

In a world where quarterbacks reign supreme, one man stands head and shoulders above the rest: Jalen Hurts. His prowess on the field is so legendary that even the football gods bow in reverence. Meanwhile, poor Kenny Pickett, with his overinflated ego and small hands that could barely grip a toddler's toy, finds himself perpetually warming the bench.

Jalen Hurts, the maestro of the gridiron, orchestrates plays with the precision of a symphony conductor. His passes are so accurate, they could thread a needle from fifty yards away. Defenses tremble at the mere mention of his name, knowing that their best efforts will be futile against his unstoppable force.

On the other hand, there's Kenny Pickett. Ah, Kenny. His hands, so small they make a baby’s mitts look like catcher's gloves, fumble more often than a clumsy waiter at a five-star restaurant. His ego, however, is as inflated as a hot air balloon, floating high above reality. Every time he steps onto the field, it's as if the football itself sighs in resignation, knowing it’s about to be mishandled.

While Jalen Hurts leads his team to victory after victory, Kenny Pickett can only watch from the sidelines, dreaming of the day he might actually complete a pass without it being intercepted. The contrast is stark: Jalen, the epitome of excellence, and Kenny, the poster child for mediocrity.

In the end, it's clear why Jalen Hurts keeps Kenny Pickett on the bench. It's not just about skill; it's about the sheer magnitude of greatness versus the pitiful reality of small hands and big egos. And so, the legend of Jalen Hurts grows, while Kenny Pickett remains a cautionary tale for quarterbacks everywhere.

 

[eighsse2]

In a world where quarterbacks reign supreme, one man stands head and shoulders above the rest: Jalen Hurts. His prowess on the field is so legendary that even the football gods bow in reverence. Meanwhile, poor Kenny Pickett, with his overinflated ego and small hands that could barely grip a toddler's toy, finds himself perpetually warming the bench.

Jalen Hurts, the maestro of the gridiron, orchestrates plays with the precision of a symphony conductor. His passes are so accurate, they could thread a needle from fifty yards away. Defenses tremble at the mere mention of his name, knowing that their best efforts will be futile against his unstoppable force.

On the other hand, there's Kenny Pickett. Ah, Kenny. His hands, so small they make a baby’s mitts look like catcher's gloves, fumble more often than a clumsy waiter at a five-star restaurant. His ego, however, is as inflated as a hot air balloon, floating high above reality. Every time he steps onto the field, it's as if the football itself sighs in resignation, knowing it’s about to be mishandled.

While Jalen Hurts leads his team to victory after victory, Kenny Pickett can only watch from the sidelines, dreaming of the day he might actually complete a pass without it being intercepted. The contrast is stark: Jalen, the epitome of excellence, and Kenny, the poster child for mediocrity.

In the end, it's clear why Jalen Hurts keeps Kenny Pickett on the bench. It's not just about skill; it's about the sheer magnitude of greatness versus the pitiful reality of small hands and big egos. And so, the legend of Jalen Hurts grows, while Kenny Pickett remains a cautionary tale for quarterbacks everywhere.

Not sure what's happening.

 

[need2know]

In a world where quarterbacks reign supreme, one man stands head and shoulders above the rest: Jalen Hurts. His prowess on the field is so legendary that even the football gods bow in reverence. Meanwhile, poor Kenny Pickett, with his overinflated ego and small hands that could barely grip a toddler's toy, finds himself perpetually warming the bench.

Jalen Hurts, the maestro of the gridiron, orchestrates plays with the precision of a symphony conductor. His passes are so accurate, they could thread a needle from fifty yards away. Defenses tremble at the mere mention of his name, knowing that their best efforts will be futile against his unstoppable force.

On the other hand, there's Kenny Pickett. Ah, Kenny. His hands, so small they make a baby’s mitts look like catcher's gloves, fumble more often than a clumsy waiter at a five-star restaurant. His ego, however, is as inflated as a hot air balloon, floating high above reality. Every time he steps onto the field, it's as if the football itself sighs in resignation, knowing it’s about to be mishandled.

While Jalen Hurts leads his team to victory after victory, Kenny Pickett can only watch from the sidelines, dreaming of the day he might actually complete a pass without it being intercepted. The contrast is stark: Jalen, the epitome of excellence, and Kenny, the poster child for mediocrity.

In the end, it's clear why Jalen Hurts keeps Kenny Pickett on the bench. It's not just about skill; it's about the sheer magnitude of greatness versus the pitiful reality of small hands and big egos. And so, the legend of Jalen Hurts grows, while Kenny Pickett remains a cautionary tale for quarterbacks everywhere.

Not sure what's happening.

What did kenny pickett do to this guy

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I remember my first beer.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Who is Kenny Pickett?

My first beer was a Strohs.

 

[kyoun1e]

In a world where quarterbacks reign supreme, one man stands head and shoulders above the rest: Jalen Hurts. His prowess on the field is so legendary that even the football gods bow in reverence. Meanwhile, poor Kenny Pickett, with his overinflated ego and small hands that could barely grip a toddler's toy, finds himself perpetually warming the bench.

Jalen Hurts, the maestro of the gridiron, orchestrates plays with the precision of a symphony conductor. His passes are so accurate, they could thread a needle from fifty yards away. Defenses tremble at the mere mention of his name, knowing that their best efforts will be futile against his unstoppable force.

On the other hand, there's Kenny Pickett. Ah, Kenny. His hands, so small they make a baby’s mitts look like catcher's gloves, fumble more often than a clumsy waiter at a five-star restaurant. His ego, however, is as inflated as a hot air balloon, floating high above reality. Every time he steps onto the field, it's as if the football itself sighs in resignation, knowing it’s about to be mishandled.

While Jalen Hurts leads his team to victory after victory, Kenny Pickett can only watch from the sidelines, dreaming of the day he might actually complete a pass without it being intercepted. The contrast is stark: Jalen, the epitome of excellence, and Kenny, the poster child for mediocrity.

In the end, it's clear why Jalen Hurts keeps Kenny Pickett on the bench. It's not just about skill; it's about the sheer magnitude of greatness versus the pitiful reality of small hands and big egos. And so, the legend of Jalen Hurts grows, while Kenny Pickett remains a cautionary tale for quarterbacks everywhere.

This is somewhat disturbing.

 

[Terpman22]

In a world where quarterbacks reign supreme, one man stands head and shoulders above the rest: Jalen Hurts. His prowess on the field is so legendary that even the football gods bow in reverence. Meanwhile, poor Kenny Pickett, with his overinflated ego and small hands that could barely grip a toddler's toy, finds himself perpetually warming the bench.

Jalen Hurts, the maestro of the gridiron, orchestrates plays with the precision of a symphony conductor. His passes are so accurate, they could thread a needle from fifty yards away. Defenses tremble at the mere mention of his name, knowing that their best efforts will be futile against his unstoppable force.

On the other hand, there's Kenny Pickett. Ah, Kenny. His hands, so small they make a baby’s mitts look like catcher's gloves, fumble more often than a clumsy waiter at a five-star restaurant. His ego, however, is as inflated as a hot air balloon, floating high above reality. Every time he steps onto the field, it's as if the football itself sighs in resignation, knowing it’s about to be mishandled.

While Jalen Hurts leads his team to victory after victory, Kenny Pickett can only watch from the sidelines, dreaming of the day he might actually complete a pass without it being intercepted. The contrast is stark: Jalen, the epitome of excellence, and Kenny, the poster child for mediocrity.

In the end, it's clear why Jalen Hurts keeps Kenny Pickett on the bench. It's not just about skill; it's about the sheer magnitude of greatness versus the pitiful reality of small hands and big egos. And so, the legend of Jalen Hurts grows, while Kenny Pickett remains a cautionary tale for quarterbacks everywhere.

Is this Chat GPT

 

[BoltNlava]

In a world where quarterbacks reign supreme, one man stands head and shoulders above the rest: Jalen Hurts. His prowess on the field is so legendary that even the football gods bow in reverence. Meanwhile, poor Kenny Pickett, with his overinflated ego and small hands that could barely grip a toddler's toy, finds himself perpetually warming the bench.

Jalen Hurts, the maestro of the gridiron, orchestrates plays with the precision of a symphony conductor. His passes are so accurate, they could thread a needle from fifty yards away. Defenses tremble at the mere mention of his name, knowing that their best efforts will be futile against his unstoppable force.

On the other hand, there's Kenny Pickett. Ah, Kenny. His hands, so small they make a baby’s mitts look like catcher's gloves, fumble more often than a clumsy waiter at a five-star restaurant. His ego, however, is as inflated as a hot air balloon, floating high above reality. Every time he steps onto the field, it's as if the football itself sighs in resignation, knowing it’s about to be mishandled.

While Jalen Hurts leads his team to victory after victory, Kenny Pickett can only watch from the sidelines, dreaming of the day he might actually complete a pass without it being intercepted. The contrast is stark: Jalen, the epitome of excellence, and Kenny, the poster child for mediocrity.

In the end, it's clear why Jalen Hurts keeps Kenny Pickett on the bench. It's not just about skill; it's about the sheer magnitude of greatness versus the pitiful reality of small hands and big egos. And so, the legend of Jalen Hurts grows, while Kenny Pickett remains a cautionary tale for quarterbacks everywhere.

Is this Chat GPT

No, it's Chat GHB.

 

[Terpman22]

In a world where quarterbacks reign supreme, one man stands head and shoulders above the rest: Jalen Hurts. His prowess on the field is so legendary that even the football gods bow in reverence. Meanwhile, poor Kenny Pickett, with his overinflated ego and small hands that could barely grip a toddler's toy, finds himself perpetually warming the bench.

Jalen Hurts, the maestro of the gridiron, orchestrates plays with the precision of a symphony conductor. His passes are so accurate, they could thread a needle from fifty yards away. Defenses tremble at the mere mention of his name, knowing that their best efforts will be futile against his unstoppable force.

On the other hand, there's Kenny Pickett. Ah, Kenny. His hands, so small they make a baby’s mitts look like catcher's gloves, fumble more often than a clumsy waiter at a five-star restaurant. His ego, however, is as inflated as a hot air balloon, floating high above reality. Every time he steps onto the field, it's as if the football itself sighs in resignation, knowing it’s about to be mishandled.

While Jalen Hurts leads his team to victory after victory, Kenny Pickett can only watch from the sidelines, dreaming of the day he might actually complete a pass without it being intercepted. The contrast is stark: Jalen, the epitome of excellence, and Kenny, the poster child for mediocrity.

In the end, it's clear why Jalen Hurts keeps Kenny Pickett on the bench. It's not just about skill; it's about the sheer magnitude of greatness versus the pitiful reality of small hands and big egos. And so, the legend of Jalen Hurts grows, while Kenny Pickett remains a cautionary tale for quarterbacks everywhere.

Is this Chat GPT

No, it's Chat GHB.

 

[Deamon]

Hurts made the Eagles worse? Just a ridiculous opinion.

Put Dak, Jacoby Brissett, Kirk Cousins, Tannehill, Goff on the Eagles and they are going to and losing the SB
Put Burrow, Mahomes , Josh Allen, Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert and of course Brady, Rogers and Russell Wilson ... Eagles win the SB

Have Mahomes and Hurts switch teams ... Eagles win the SB and KC gets eliminated by Jacksonville and or Cincy

And you know this how?

We both do

You don't need to form opinions for me. This is your opinion (hot take). I think Jalen is a pretty good QB. Time will tell if he can become elite and play with the type of consistency as guys like Mahomes and Burrow. I'm not sold on that yet but I certainly put him above guys like Daniel Jones (can't believe you even included him in that list), current 45 year old Brady and current version of Russell Wilson. But you're welcome to your opinion. You were just posting as if it were fact.

I'd take Jones ove Hurts in a heartbeat ... Put Jones on that team and he'd put elite #'s ... They put up very similar #'s with every different rosters

PFF Final Oline Rankings - PHI #1 (all Season) GIA #30 (down 2)
WRs - Hmmm lets see Aj Brown (1st rd) and Smith (1st Rd) vs Slayton (5th rd) and Richies James (7th rd)
TE's - Goedert (2nd) vs Bellinger (4th)

Now lets be fair ... this is quite a difference in talent ... Giants have 1 Olineman that would make the Eagles roster, Slayton might make it as a 3rd or 4th WRs

this didn't age well

 

[need2know]

Hurts made the Eagles worse? Just a ridiculous opinion.

Put Dak, Jacoby Brissett, Kirk Cousins, Tannehill, Goff on the Eagles and they are going to and losing the SB
Put Burrow, Mahomes , Josh Allen, Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert and of course Brady, Rogers and Russell Wilson ... Eagles win the SB

Have Mahomes and Hurts switch teams ... Eagles win the SB and KC gets eliminated by Jacksonville and or Cincy

And you know this how?

We both do

You don't need to form opinions for me. This is your opinion (hot take). I think Jalen is a pretty good QB. Time will tell if he can become elite and play with the type of consistency as guys like Mahomes and Burrow. I'm not sold on that yet but I certainly put him above guys like Daniel Jones (can't believe you even included him in that list), current 45 year old Brady and current version of Russell Wilson. But you're welcome to your opinion. You were just posting as if it were fact.

I'd take Jones ove Hurts in a heartbeat ... Put Jones on that team and he'd put elite #'s ... They put up very similar #'s with every different rosters

PFF Final Oline Rankings - PHI #1 (all Season) GIA #30 (down 2)
WRs - Hmmm lets see Aj Brown (1st rd) and Smith (1st Rd) vs Slayton (5th rd) and Richies James (7th rd)
TE's - Goedert (2nd) vs Bellinger (4th)

Now lets be fair ... this is quite a difference in talent ... Giants have 1 Olineman that would make the Eagles roster, Slayton might make it as a 3rd or 4th WRs

this didn't age well

 

[Qammy]

Hurts made the Eagles worse? Just a ridiculous opinion.

Put Dak, Jacoby Brissett, Kirk Cousins, Tannehill, Goff on the Eagles and they are going to and losing the SB
Put Burrow, Mahomes , Josh Allen, Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert and of course Brady, Rogers and Russell Wilson ... Eagles win the SB

Have Mahomes and Hurts switch teams ... Eagles win the SB and KC gets eliminated by Jacksonville and or Cincy

And you know this how?

We both do

You don't need to form opinions for me. This is your opinion (hot take). I think Jalen is a pretty good QB. Time will tell if he can become elite and play with the type of consistency as guys like Mahomes and Burrow. I'm not sold on that yet but I certainly put him above guys like Daniel Jones (can't believe you even included him in that list), current 45 year old Brady and current version of Russell Wilson. But you're welcome to your opinion. You were just posting as if it were fact.

I'd take Jones ove Hurts in a heartbeat ... Put Jones on that team and he'd put elite #'s ... They put up very similar #'s with every different rosters

PFF Final Oline Rankings - PHI #1 (all Season) GIA #30 (down 2)
WRs - Hmmm lets see Aj Brown (1st rd) and Smith (1st Rd) vs Slayton (5th rd) and Richies James (7th rd)
TE's - Goedert (2nd) vs Bellinger (4th)

Now lets be fair ... this is quite a difference in talent ... Giants have 1 Olineman that would make the Eagles roster, Slayton might make it as a 3rd or 4th WRs

this didn't age well

What do you mean?

 

[Deamon]

Hurts made the Eagles worse? Just a ridiculous opinion.

Put Dak, Jacoby Brissett, Kirk Cousins, Tannehill, Goff on the Eagles and they are going to and losing the SB
Put Burrow, Mahomes , Josh Allen, Daniel Jones, Lamar Jackson, Trevor Lawrence, Herbert and of course Brady, Rogers and Russell Wilson ... Eagles win the SB

Have Mahomes and Hurts switch teams ... Eagles win the SB and KC gets eliminated by Jacksonville and or Cincy

And you know this how?

We both do

You don't need to form opinions for me. This is your opinion (hot take). I think Jalen is a pretty good QB. Time will tell if he can become elite and play with the type of consistency as guys like Mahomes and Burrow. I'm not sold on that yet but I certainly put him above guys like Daniel Jones (can't believe you even included him in that list), current 45 year old Brady and current version of Russell Wilson. But you're welcome to your opinion. You were just posting as if it were fact.

I'd take Jones ove Hurts in a heartbeat ... Put Jones on that team and he'd put elite #'s ... They put up very similar #'s with every different rosters

PFF Final Oline Rankings - PHI #1 (all Season) GIA #30 (down 2)
WRs - Hmmm lets see Aj Brown (1st rd) and Smith (1st Rd) vs Slayton (5th rd) and Richies James (7th rd)
TE's - Goedert (2nd) vs Bellinger (4th)

Now lets be fair ... this is quite a difference in talent ... Giants have 1 Olineman that would make the Eagles roster, Slayton might make it as a 3rd or 4th WRs

this didn't age well

What do you mean?

 

[kyoun1e]

15 points and only threw it 22 times and didn't get a tush push. I'll take it.

Here's to hoping they can't hand off to Saquon all game in a matchup @BALT this week. You don't run on Baltimore, you pass it.

 

[travdogg]

15 points and only threw it 22 times and didn't get a tush push. I'll take it.

Here's to hoping they can't hand off to Saquon all game in a matchup @BALT this week. You don't run on Baltimore, you pass it.

Agreed. Barkley has had back-to-back elite games, his 2 best of the season. Not saying Barkley will suddenly be bad or anything, but that it'll regress to the mean, just like Hurts 3 straight 30+ weeks did. The truth as usual is somewhere in between.

I do like Hurts schedule a ton going forward. Even Pittsburgh isn't really a bad matchup given their CB weakness, and Philly's OL.

 

[Faust]

Fran Duffy
Jalen Hurts - per @NextGenStats:

4 sacks on 9 pressures - 3.29 average time to pressure was slowest in league this week so far

3.47 Average Time to Throw - slowest of season for him
5.1 yards/attempt - lowest of season
5.6 air yards/attempt - lowest of season

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[eighsse2]

Why did I get 26 points from a guy who threw for 108 yards?

 

[travdogg]

Fran Duffy
Jalen Hurts - per @NextGenStats:

4 sacks on 9 pressures - 3.29 average time to pressure was slowest in league this week so far

3.47 Average Time to Throw - slowest of season for him
5.1 yards/attempt - lowest of season
5.6 air yards/attempt - lowest of season

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That checks out with what I saw. A part of me thinks its a pass volume issue. Like, they need to throw more, because throwing so little kills any rhythm. Hurts played a lot like a guy who needed to make every throw perfect, which tends to lead to that not happening. There were at least 2 instances of AJ Brown open for TDs, where Hurts didn't pull the trigger, because he wasn't WIDE open.

For fantasy this is fine, as long as the rushing is there. For the Eagles, this is a problem. I don't care how well Barkley is playing. They need to throw more. You're spending 105 million dollars a year between Hurts, AJ, and Smith. 108 yards and a YPA under 7 is unacceptable. They were extremely lucky to win this week, they almost certainly lose if Legette hangs onto a very catchable TD pass. They need to get the passing game going, or they are looking at another instance of being 1 and done in the playoffs.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

 

[ShamrockPride]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

I disagree. The reason they’re not going to get nuked by anyone is because of their defense. It might be the best unit in the league. Turning Hurts into a gunslinger is grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Detroit hasn’t faced a defense like that. It won’t be a shootout.

 

[kyoun1e]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

Agree completely.

If PHI wants to win it all, they can't just hand the ball off to Barkley.

The passing game is clunky rigtht now.

When push comes to shove when it counts, Hurts will need to make some plays in the passing game. They need to get in a groove prior to the playoffs.

 

[TampaMike19]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

I disagree. The reason they’re not going to get nuked by anyone is because of their defense. It might be the best unit in the league. Turning Hurts into a gunslinger is grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Detroit hasn’t faced a defense like that. It won’t be a shootout.

Goff is still throwing for 250-300 yards a game with his dominant running game.

Eagles have the tools to be Lions-esque and they have a running QB to boot.

Hurts has played not well but the fluidity in this offense is just awful. Pass to set up the run, not vice versa. Barkley will get even more explosive chunk plays if defenses have to fear Brown and Smith again.

 

[kyoun1e]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

I disagree. The reason they’re not going to get nuked by anyone is because of their defense. It might be the best unit in the league. Turning Hurts into a gunslinger is grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Detroit hasn’t faced a defense like that. It won’t be a shootout.

Goff is still throwing for 250-300 yards a game with his dominant running game.

Eagles have the tools to be Lions-esque and they have a running QB to boot.

Hurts has played not well but the fluidity in this offense is just awful. Pass to set up the run, not vice versa. Barkley will get even more explosive chunk plays if defenses have to fear Brown and Smith again.

Eagles air frustrations as passing attack struggles

Frustration about a passing attack that has yet to hit its stride bubbled to the surface for members of the Eagles following Sunday's narrow win over the Panthers.

www.espn.com

At least they're aware.

Color me concerned in the first week of the playoffs with a matchup against the PIT D. They will need to throw to win that game. At least you'd think/hope so.

I fear the tush push dries up at some point and we're left with < 10 points one of these weeks.

 

[Terpman22]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

Stats baby. We are skewed to love stats and be entertained more than enjoy winning. Look at how this game is covered vs how the Bills L yesterday b/c ya know, they scored 42 points and lost, but Josh Allen put up a monster day so, yay I guess.

No sense in worrying about what others think, b/c honestly, no one is posting hot takes etc these days with 100% honesty, its just entertainment and engagement.

 

[travdogg]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

I disagree. The reason they’re not going to get nuked by anyone is because of their defense. It might be the best unit in the league. Turning Hurts into a gunslinger is grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Detroit hasn’t faced a defense like that. It won’t be a shootout.

Its not about turning Hurts onto a gunslinger. but let's not treat him like he needs to be hidden. He was an MVP candidate not long ago.

I just think they should be utilizing how successful Barkley has been, and running a lot more PA. You'll suck the LBs up and get 1-1 matchups with your 55 million dollar WRs. Just feels like by being so run heavy the Eagles are leaving a lot on the table, and like @ShamrockPride said, the possible need to go from 0-100 could have complications.

I will say, the idea that Hurts would be some turnover machine if they started throwing 30 times, is very flawed to me. I don't think the extremely tiny sample size from earlier this year is relevant, as AJ Brown only played 1 of those first 4 games, DeVonta Smith played 2.5, and that was while Hurts was learning a new offense. Most QBs would struggle when the top 2 WR's are Jahan Dotson and Parris Campbell.

 

[Terpman22]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

I disagree. The reason they’re not going to get nuked by anyone is because of their defense. It might be the best unit in the league. Turning Hurts into a gunslinger is grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Detroit hasn’t faced a defense like that. It won’t be a shootout.

Its not about turning Hurts onto a gunslinger. but let's not treat him like he needs to be hidden. He was an MVP candidate not long ago.

I just think they should be utilizing how successful Barkley has been, and running a lot more PA. You'll suck the LBs up and get 1-1 matchups with your 55 million dollar WRs. Just feels like by being so run heavy the Eagles are leaving a lot on the table, and like @ShamrockPride said, the possible need to go from 0-100 could have complications.

I will say, the idea that Hurts would be some turnover machine if they started throwing 30 times, is very flawed to me. I don't think the extremely tiny sample size from earlier this year is relevant, as AJ Brown only played 1 of those first 4 games, DeVonta Smith played 2.5, and that was while Hurts was learning a new offense. Most QBs would struggle when the top 2 WR's are Jahan Dotson and Parris Campbell.

Hurts had a turnover problem a lot of last year too. Its not a coincidence he only has 2 turnovers during the current 9-game winning streak.

It's a mixed bag of coaching, reading the defense, defenses coming in with different gameplans than what they have on tape, and honestly, I think the team is STILL pressing, including Jalen from last year to "get the job done"

 

[Snotbubbles]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

I disagree. The reason they’re not going to get nuked by anyone is because of their defense. It might be the best unit in the league. Turning Hurts into a gunslinger is grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Detroit hasn’t faced a defense like that. It won’t be a shootout.

Its not about turning Hurts onto a gunslinger. but let's not treat him like he needs to be hidden. He was an MVP candidate not long ago.

I just think they should be utilizing how successful Barkley has been, and running a lot more PA. You'll suck the LBs up and get 1-1 matchups with your 55 million dollar WRs. Just feels like by being so run heavy the Eagles are leaving a lot on the table, and like @ShamrockPride said, the possible need to go from 0-100 could have complications.

I will say, the idea that Hurts would be some turnover machine if they started throwing 30 times, is very flawed to me. I don't think the extremely tiny sample size from earlier this year is relevant, as AJ Brown only played 1 of those first 4 games, DeVonta Smith played 2.5, and that was while Hurts was learning a new offense. Most QBs would struggle when the top 2 WR's are Jahan Dotson and Parris Campbell.

It's not just the 4 games before the bye. It's all of 2023 and the end of 2022. In 2022 when he was an MVP candidate, most games Steichen had him throw it about 25 times. When he gets in the 35 attempt range, he turns the ball over too much. Moore has gone really conservative the last few games keeping him around 20, but at most he should be throwing 25 times a game.

 

[travdogg]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

I disagree. The reason they’re not going to get nuked by anyone is because of their defense. It might be the best unit in the league. Turning Hurts into a gunslinger is grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Detroit hasn’t faced a defense like that. It won’t be a shootout.

Its not about turning Hurts onto a gunslinger. but let's not treat him like he needs to be hidden. He was an MVP candidate not long ago.

I just think they should be utilizing how successful Barkley has been, and running a lot more PA. You'll suck the LBs up and get 1-1 matchups with your 55 million dollar WRs. Just feels like by being so run heavy the Eagles are leaving a lot on the table, and like @ShamrockPride said, the possible need to go from 0-100 could have complications.

I will say, the idea that Hurts would be some turnover machine if they started throwing 30 times, is very flawed to me. I don't think the extremely tiny sample size from earlier this year is relevant, as AJ Brown only played 1 of those first 4 games, DeVonta Smith played 2.5, and that was while Hurts was learning a new offense. Most QBs would struggle when the top 2 WR's are Jahan Dotson and Parris Campbell.

Hurts had a turnover problem a lot of last year too. Its not a coincidence he only has 2 turnovers during the current 9-game winning streak.

It's a mixed bag of coaching, reading the defense, defenses coming in with different gameplans than what they have on tape, and honestly, I think the team is STILL pressing, including Jalen from last year to "get the job done"

True, but last year they had one of the worst playcallers in the NFL. He was an MVP candidate when Steichen was calling the plays. He averaged 30 attempts a game that season.

Its just annoying to see a player we've seen be as good as Hurts has been, being treated like he's Justin Fields or Daniel Jones or someone like that. Its possible the low attempts wouldn't be so annoying if there were more deep shots, which they often were between weeks 6-10. Like in a Russell Wilson kind of way.

I'm indifferent to the Eagles (really probably every team, players>teams in my opinion) and fantasy wise, I have a share of Hurts, Barkley, and Brown, so I feel like I'm looking at this from an unbiased spot, it just feels...I don't know overconservative let's say. I mean, they were extremely lucky to beat Carolina at home yesterday.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I really don’t understand the criticism of the play calling. Barkley is their best player in that offense and it really should run through him. With their defense (which closed the game again today), they essentially just need for Hurts to be a game manager and not blow it with turnovers. That’s exactly what is happening. They keep winning. It isn’t always pretty (like today) but they keep winning. Nick has figured out what works with the immense talent on this team.

That may work the first round or two of the playoffs, but they're likely going to nuked by Detroit. Saquon is not going to save them in that game. That's not to speak of possible SB opponents Buffalo or Baltimore.

They need to get Hurts throwing more soon, so he doesn't have to try and go from 0 to 100 when they start needing him more in those deeper rounds.

I disagree. The reason they’re not going to get nuked by anyone is because of their defense. It might be the best unit in the league. Turning Hurts into a gunslinger is grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. Detroit hasn’t faced a defense like that. It won’t be a shootout.

Its not about turning Hurts onto a gunslinger. but let's not treat him like he needs to be hidden. He was an MVP candidate not long ago.

I just think they should be utilizing how successful Barkley has been, and running a lot more PA. You'll suck the LBs up and get 1-1 matchups with your 55 million dollar WRs. Just feels like by being so run heavy the Eagles are leaving a lot on the table, and like @ShamrockPride said, the possible need to go from 0-100 could have complications.

I will say, the idea that Hurts would be some turnover machine if they started throwing 30 times, is very flawed to me. I don't think the extremely tiny sample size from earlier this year is relevant, as AJ Brown only played 1 of those first 4 games, DeVonta Smith played 2.5, and that was while Hurts was learning a new offense. Most QBs would struggle when the top 2 WR's are Jahan Dotson and Parris Campbell.

Hurts had a turnover problem a lot of last year too. Its not a coincidence he only has 2 turnovers during the current 9-game winning streak.

It's a mixed bag of coaching, reading the defense, defenses coming in with different gameplans than what they have on tape, and honestly, I think the team is STILL pressing, including Jalen from last year to "get the job done"

True, but last year they had one of the worst playcallers in the NFL. He was an MVP candidate when Steichen was calling the plays. He averaged 30 attempts a game that season.

Its just annoying to see a player we've seen be as good as Hurts has been, being treated like he's Justin Fields or Daniel Jones or someone like that. Its possible the low attempts wouldn't be so annoying if there were more deep shots, which they often were between weeks 6-10. Like in a Russell Wilson kind of way.

I'm indifferent to the Eagles (really probably every team, players>teams in my opinion) and fantasy wise, I have a share of Hurts, Barkley, and Brown, so I feel like I'm looking at this from an unbiased spot, it just feels...I don't know overconservative let's say. I mean, they were extremely lucky to beat Carolina at home yesterday.

Steichen called a lot of RPOs and early in the season Hurts was over-reading pass. The Eagles offense really took off when Hurts, pun intended, started taking off with his legs too.

 

[kyoun1e]

It boggles my mind with the threat of Barkley, there aren't any huge play action passes to AJ Brown or D. Smith.

Doesn't make sense.

 

[Boston]

Brandon Graham: "Things have changed" between Jalen Hurts and A.J. Brown

Veteran chimes in on disconnect between QB, WR.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Dizzy]

Odd to see a Tier 1 fantasy QB that is 100% reliant on rushing TDs (and is almost guaranteed to get them). Kinda crazy.

 

[unckeyherb]

It boggles my mind with the threat of Barkley, there aren't any huge play action passes to AJ Brown or D. Smith.

Doesn't make sense.

They are there. Jalen isn’t pulling the trigger. There were a bunch against Carolina where he had Davonta and AJ both as open reads and he kept for a two yard run.

 

[need2know]

It boggles my mind with the threat of Barkley, there aren't any huge play action passes to AJ Brown or D. Smith.

Doesn't make sense.

they never run it. saving it maybe?

 

[kyoun1e]

It boggles my mind with the threat of Barkley, there aren't any huge play action passes to AJ Brown or D. Smith.

Doesn't make sense.

They are there. Jalen isn’t pulling the trigger. There were a bunch against Carolina where he had Davonta and AJ both as open reads and he kept for a two yard run.

They'll need to in the playoffs.

And probably against the PIT D that will focus on the run. PIT can be thrown on. Will be disappointing if they decide to try and constantly pound a square peg in a round hole against the PIT D vs. striking a better balance.