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QB Jalen Hurts, PHI (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter elguapo07
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Not if they are still playing for the Vikings or Giants.
- Defense - 4 Turnovers, Constant Pressure .... Dominant !!!!
- Saquan 15 for 118 7.9 3 TDs - Unreal ... set the tone WOW !!!
- Shipley 4 for 77 19.2 1 TD - What a finish ... HOLY **** !!!!
- Hurts 10 for 16 1.6 3 TDs - LOL !!!!!! Well I guess you gotta throw him a bone ... you know , make him feel like he's contributing. We've all heard the expression "throw enough **** at the wall some of it will stick !!! That is Hurts run game to a T. How many times did Brady say "I dont know why he didnt throw it to that open receiver" I think I counted 6
GoBirds
Footballguy
Keep chewing that crow, you’ll get it down eventually! Tough L to take I’m sure.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
He made one mistake today but so many clutch throws/runs. He’s cemented himself as a bonafide elite stud QB in my eyes.
And even that mistake wasn't really a big deal.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
And it was the result of the center completely blowing his assignment.
well, I think he played a good game, but the eagles were better equipped to win this time.
Last time the chiefs rushed on the right side of the line and kept their gaps so that Hurts couldnt roll out to his right. by doing this it forced him to roll the other direction and throw across his body (which he is not as good at)
this time he was able to roll to his right. I suspect there are two possible reasons for this:
1) the line didnt allow it to happen
2) I think the presence of Sequon was enough to make that scheme unviable as a strategy.
it could be one or the other or some combination of the two.
The Chiefs were clearly more focused on stopping the run game but in doing so, it opened up some parts of the pass game. I think this made the difference as Hurts did not face the same pressure when he was back to pass as he did in his first superbowl appearance.
While I'd like to give hurts the Credit, the reality is that this was mostly a team effort and it all began with the line performing and keeping him clean.
of course with this being the case, Hurts had more time to figure things out back there, and hes a guy at QB you dont want to give a lot of time to if you are the opposing D.
twas a well played game on the side of the Iggles.
congrats Eagles fans.
Last time the chiefs rushed on the right side of the line and kept their gaps so that Hurts couldnt roll out to his right. by doing this it forced him to roll the other direction and throw across his body (which he is not as good at)
this time he was able to roll to his right. I suspect there are two possible reasons for this:
1) the line didnt allow it to happen
2) I think the presence of Sequon was enough to make that scheme unviable as a strategy.
it could be one or the other or some combination of the two.
The Chiefs were clearly more focused on stopping the run game but in doing so, it opened up some parts of the pass game. I think this made the difference as Hurts did not face the same pressure when he was back to pass as he did in his first superbowl appearance.
While I'd like to give hurts the Credit, the reality is that this was mostly a team effort and it all began with the line performing and keeping him clean.
of course with this being the case, Hurts had more time to figure things out back there, and hes a guy at QB you dont want to give a lot of time to if you are the opposing D.
twas a well played game on the side of the Iggles.
congrats Eagles fans.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Top 5 QB in the league? Hard to argue not only with results, but actual performance too. If you were to tell football fans, including even most Eagles fans I'd imagine, that Barkley was going to rush 25 times for only 57 yards in the Super Bowl, I think most would say that would secure the Chiefs a win. Spags put everything on stopping the run and dared Hurts to beat them. And he did, convincingly. Hurts isn't perfect, but he certainly shows up when called on. Even the last time they played and the Eagles lost, Hurts played a top tier game. I'd say one of his best IMO. After Mahomes, Burrow, and Allen I think Hurts has to be thrown in the discussion at the very least.
Terpman22
Footballguy
So, for sure, its dead and buried, the question "What if a team forces Jalen Hurts to win"
Right? Right???
I suspect goal posts to be further moved in veiled attempts to give shady credit but also give him backhanded compliments etc. I'm sure he's fine with it.
Super Bowl MVP. And this team is really just getting started.
Go Birds!
Right? Right???
I suspect goal posts to be further moved in veiled attempts to give shady credit but also give him backhanded compliments etc. I'm sure he's fine with it.
Super Bowl MVP. And this team is really just getting started.
Go Birds!
refacer
Footballguy
Just seems to me the defense should have at least received co-MVP, never needed to blitz, 2 int (one pick 6) 6 sacks and pressure all game long.
need2know
Footballguy
Top 3
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
It's tough to name a defensive MVP unless someone clearly won the game with their play like Von Miller did for the Broncos. I certainly wouldn't have argued if it had gone to Sweat or DeJean, though.
elguapo07
Footballguy
crushedspirit
Footballguy
I'm so glad the Steelers had the foresight to plan for Ben's departure by passing on Hurts to draft Claypool.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
The trajectory of his career could have been very different if he ended up on the Steelers instead of the Eagles. Same thing could be said about all the great QBs. System, coaching and situation is all important in shaping these guys into who they eventually become. Lots of very talented QBs have failed.
Every other team passed on Hurts as well.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
It's about not planning for the future which has now led to a scramble to find some competent QB.The trajectory of his career could have been very different if he ended up on the Steelers instead of the Eagles. Same thing could be said about all the great QBs. System, coaching and situation is all important in shaping these guys into who they eventually become. Lots of very talented QBs have failed.
Every other team passed on Hurts as well.
I was hoping they would draft him in 2020 after Ben's 2019 season, and always thought it to be a glaring error. He wouldn't have turned out like he has due to playing under Tomlin's prehistoric offensive philosophy, but he was the BPA at a time when their 37 year old QB was coming off a major injury.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Jalen Hurts had as many TD (8) in the fourth quarter as incompletions thrown (8) since the #Eagles bye week (Week 5).
That includes playoffs (14 games).
That includes playoffs (14 games).
Still Stands ... Insert any QB in the NFL in that lineup and expect the same or better results
The Defense and the Oline were hands down the MVPs of this game
Insert Jones ... Eagles easily win the SB
No difference ... Once again the Eagles win in spite of Hurts not because of Hurts
He tried to blow it in the 1st Q with taht horrendous INT but the Eagles D was not having it
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
Admitting you are wrong is a sign of strength and maturity. Meanwhile, sharing the same incorrect observations over and over makes others assume that you lack intelligence or have some ulterior motive. It's possible you don't care how people view you on the internet, but I thought you should know.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Qammy sounding suspiciously like a DJax burner.
So was that pick that fell 10 yds south of the WR ...
You see most college QBs can make that throw when they have 5-7 seconds to throw to one of the best contested catch WRs on the planet
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
I feel like we are a group of informed people with different opinions having an intelligent conversation and someone is standing in the background making fart noises.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
He also killed the Chiefs with his legs.
I actually think this might be true.
He has 19 posts spread over the past month.
All 19 of them are in this thread, and not a single one anywhere else.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
I've had him blocked for a while. It's great, you should try it.
Horrendous pick? WTF with this "analysis". It was third and ten, at the edge of FG range with a shaky kicker, under pressure where a sack likely means no FG attempt at all....and the pick occurred at the THREE yard line.
I said it at the time and will say it again....I'll take that kind of pick any day.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
His solid SB play has me thinking I might could sell high on AJB in a dynasty league where I could afford to move off of him. He wasn’t generating much interest last time I put him on the block, but the postseason run may have elevated his value in the eyes of some in the league. Most of the feedback I received was “love AJB, don’t love his QB”.
It’s TE-P and I’m constantly running out scraps at the position. Wonder if I could get a decent young-ish TE for him.
It’s TE-P and I’m constantly running out scraps at the position. Wonder if I could get a decent young-ish TE for him.
Insein
Footballguy
Qammy is like 1 of 2 people I have blocked on this board in over 15 years.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I like Qammy. He makes me feel better about my irrational obsession with D'Andre Swift and Sean Tucker.
Ever wonder why they're never in the same room at the same time!? It's 100% him.
Be careful what I don't wish for. I could see the creative geniuses that they are start replying to each other's posts. Just to try to throw us off the scent.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Not gonna lie, I’ve thought this before.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Not taking that Jalen SB MVP too well are you?
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Not a chance in hell. Their posting styles are way too different. Djax is an Eagles fan. He’s just not a Hurts fan.
while I would agree the D and the O line were the MVP's in this game they will never give the MVP to a defender unless he really tears it up. (ie. multiple pick 6) and on offense its never going to an O lineman.Still Stands ... Insert any QB in the NFL in that lineup and expect the same or better results
The Defense and the Oline were hands down the MVPs of this game
the only real choice was Hurts, Sequon or one of the WR for MVP. Sequon was ok and so were the WR. Hurts played well. had one or two real bad throws like he always does but other than that played a solid game. he was the MVP in a game where I'm not sure there should have been an MVP. it was a team win. Everyone did their part and nobody really stood above the rest.... not in any significant way anyways.
I agree with the MVP selection, while noting that in games like this it usually goes to the QB. the reality is it was everyone. The line probably won the game for them but nobody is gonna give that award to an O lineman (sorry.... sad but true)
Honestly, that pick was arguably a positive play. Pinned KC deep.
while I would agree the D and the O line were the MVP's in this game they will never give the MVP to a defender unless he really tears it up. (ie. multiple pick 6) and on offense its never going to an O lineman.Still Stands ... Insert any QB in the NFL in that lineup and expect the same or better results
The Defense and the Oline were hands down the MVPs of this game
the only real choice was Hurts, Sequon or one of the WR for MVP. Sequon was ok and so were the WR. Hurts played well. had one or two real bad throws like he always does but other than that played a solid game. he was the MVP in a game where I'm not sure there should have been an MVP. it was a team win. Everyone did their part and nobody really stood above the rest.... not in any significant way anyways.
I agree with the MVP selection, while noting that in games like this it usually goes to the QB. the reality is it was everyone. The line probably won the game for them but nobody is gonna give that award to an O lineman (sorry.... sad but true)
What was the other real bad throw?
Also, since he always has one or two real bad throws, please let us know which ones they were in the NFC championship game.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Steve Spagnuolo has been a defensive coordinator for 25 playoff games in his storied career.
Based on EPA per pass play AND dropback success rate, Jalen Hurts' performance in the Super Bowl was the best ever for a QB in a playoff game against Spags.
Based on EPA per pass play AND dropback success rate, Jalen Hurts' performance in the Super Bowl was the best ever for a QB in a playoff game against Spags.
