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[renesauz]

Kob is listed extremely low. Even for those who don't believe in him, against a suspect secondary that struggled on the road last year AND playing at home....I'm not buying the ranking at all. I'm not trying to suggest that he should be a top ten QB or anything, but bottom five is simply ludicrous unless you expect him to get yanked.

The rankings are based on the projections, and right now there's no logical reason to project any other Philly QB to play, so let's forego that excuse already.

It bares watching, but if Kolb is the starter, he makes a solid second QB in start two leagues, or a sneaky start for a desperate team (like a McNabb owner either lacking a decent backup or who's backup has a tough matchup this week).

If Kolb starts, he's a virtual lock to put up top 15 or so numbers this week.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Kob is listed extremely low. Even for those who don't believe in him, against a suspect secondary that struggled on the road last year AND playing at home....I'm not buying the ranking at all. I'm not trying to suggest that he should be a top ten QB or anything, but bottom five is simply ludicrous unless you expect him to get yanked.

The rankings are based on the projections, and right now there's no logical reason to project any other Philly QB to play, so let's forego that excuse already.

It bares watching, but if Kolb is the starter, he makes a solid second QB in start two leagues, or a sneaky start for a desperate team (like a McNabb owner either lacking a decent backup or who's backup has a tough matchup this week).

If Kolb starts, he's a virtual lock to put up top 15 or so numbers this week.

I agree with your everything you say except for the last sentence. What has Kolb done to make you think that he's a "virtual lock" to finish in the top 15 this week? I'm not saying that he won't be top 15. I just don't think that there is enough data to consider him a lock. The Eagles have a potent offense but Kolb has not done well with this offense in his very few stints at the helm.

 

[Cecil_Pooples]

This start is Kolb's future in Philadelphia.

I expect a lot of Westbrook.

 

[Powder]

I think Kolb is going to do a lot better than what people think this week. I actually picked him up off waivers in one of my leagues and am starting him over Hasselbeck. Its a high-risk move but I'm taking the chance this week.

 

[lion_crazz]

It seems like there are too many waiver or low end QBs who have great matchups this week. Favre plays the Lions, Campbell plays the Rams, and Kerry Collins is playing the Texans. I just can't see Kolb putting up that many points. He looked terrrible last week. Also, if they had so much faith in Kolb, why pickup Garcia?

 

[Powder]

Also, if they had so much faith in Kolb, why pickup Garcia?

Because its generally not a good idea to go into a game with no backup.

 

[puckalicious]

I wouldn't start Kolb until he can show he can do something other than wet the bed. I'd rather start Russell or other similar waiver wire QBs.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Also, if they had so much faith in Kolb, why pickup Garcia?

Because its generally not a good idea to go into a game with no backup.

I think I read that if Kolb was injured in the game, Westbrook was next in line to play QB.

 

[G-King]

I think Kolb is going to do a lot better than what people think this week. I actually picked him up off waivers in one of my leagues and am starting him over Hasselbeck. Its a high-risk move but I'm taking the chance this week.

FWIW-I talk to Kevin weekly, as he is a friend of mine. At the risk of getting bashed about "rose colored glasses" I will first say-YES- I am looking through them. But I can tell you that Kevin is pumped up about this opportunity and has worked all week studying and is stoked about getting to finally play with the first team. We all see how bad he's looked when pushed into game action (although there have been lots of drops by his wr's and his first ever interception hit the wr in both hands and he popped it up), but we have to realize that he normally spends the week posing as the opponents QB, throwing balls at receivers who we have never heard of outside of Philly fans. He is now running with the first team and looking forward to this chance to show what hes got. Will he come out and fail? Maybe... Can he come out and lead Philly to victory in an impressive fashion? Maybe.... But either way, it wont be because he isnt working hard and looking for this to springboard into something better. What he is NOT doing is sitting on the bench, just trying to get a paycheck as a career back up. This guy is very driven, and very smart. A HOF coach that I got the privledge of taking fishing this past spring told me that at the NFL combine, Kevin was the best interview there. He was extremely smart and very coachable, and respected how well he handled himself. He was so impressed with him that he told me to let him know that, next time we were together.Again I AM NOT PREDICTING that he will be carried out on Reid's shoulders in a ticker tape parade- I'm just giving a little background and saying to give him a chance before everyone calls for his head.

 

[KoolKat]

I think Kolb is going to do a lot better than what people think this week. I actually picked him up off waivers in one of my leagues and am starting him over Hasselbeck. Its a high-risk move but I'm taking the chance this week.

FWIW-I talk to Kevin weekly, as he is a friend of mine. At the risk of getting bashed about "rose colored glasses" I will first say-YES- I am looking through them. But I can tell you that Kevin is pumped up about this opportunity and has worked all week studying and is stoked about getting to finally play with the first team. We all see how bad he's looked when pushed into game action (although there have been lots of drops by his wr's and his first ever interception hit the wr in both hands and he popped it up), but we have to realize that he normally spends the week posing as the opponents QB, throwing balls at receivers who we have never heard of outside of Philly fans. He is now running with the first team and looking forward to this chance to show what hes got. Will he come out and fail? Maybe... Can he come out and lead Philly to victory in an impressive fashion? Maybe.... But either way, it wont be because he isnt working hard and looking for this to springboard into something better. What he is NOT doing is sitting on the bench, just trying to get a paycheck as a career back up. This guy is very driven, and very smart. A HOF coach that I got the privledge of taking fishing this past spring told me that at the NFL combine, Kevin was the best interview there. He was extremely smart and very coachable, and respected how well he handled himself. He was so impressed with him that he told me to let him know that, next time we were together.Again I AM NOT PREDICTING that he will be carried out on Reid's shoulders in a ticker tape parade- I'm just giving a little background and saying to give him a chance before everyone calls for his head.

Very interesting. Not to turn this into AC. I had been sitting on Kolb, but last year's performance convinced me to drop him. Worth dropping Leftwich for him in Dynasty you think?

 

[Chaka]

I wouldn't start Kolb until he can show he can do something other than wet the bed. I'd rather start Russell or other similar waiver wire QBs.

Ugh. I would break my own knees just so I could kick myself in the nuts rather than start either of those guys.I feel for you if you are in that situation.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I was going to start a thread asking how many of you guys would be taking the "high risk" road and actually start Kolb this week. This thread will probably cover it.

Yes, I'm an Eagles homer, but I really think Kolb could be a sneaky, if not decent play this week in fantasy football. I agree with renesauz....the projections are way off......unless they came out early and FBG was still thinking that McNabb may still start come game time. At this point I seriously doubt Reid will put McNabb in when Kolb has had all the work with the first team this week. Kolb deserves the chance to start after a full week of preparation and Garcia is just added insurance in case things run afoul. McNabb deserves the time off to heal properly (or as best he can) for a couple of weeks.

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[Avery]

I was going to start a thread asking how many of you guys would be taking the "high risk" road and actually start Kolb this week. This thread will probably cover it.Yes, I'm an Eagles homer, but I really think Kolb could be a sneaky, if not decent play this week in fantasy football. I agree with renesauz....the projections are way off......unless they came out early and FBG was still thinking that McNabb may still start come game time. At this point I seriously doubt Reid will put McNabb in when Kolb has had all the work with the first team this week. Kolb deserves the chance to start after a full week of preparation and Garcia is just added insurance in case things run afoul. McNabb deserves the time off to heal properly (or as best he can) for a couple of weeks. my

With McNabb down I'm looking at Kolb (who I just picked up) vs. New Orleans or Sanchez vs. New England. :X Thinking about rolling with Kolb.

 

[renesauz]

A lot of folks have bought into the notion that he "hasn't done anything with his chances"...but the truth is that his chances have been extremely limited.

There's only been two games where Kolb saw any significant action. The first was against Baltimore last year. The Eagles offense had been stifled all day, and Kolb took over with a team that had barely moved the ball to that point. He promptly led a long drive. While it ended with an ugly interception...it's unfortunate that he's remembered only for the pick and not the drive (the FIRST DRIVE that actually did anything in the game) down the length of the field.

The second chance was last week...in a BLOWOUT. With a huge lead and a backup QB, Philly pulled Westbrook and played extremely conservative. They asked nothing of Kolb except to avoid turnovers, which he did. To call his performance bad is disengenius under the circumstances.

Now this week....a high pick who's now had two full camps as a backup to learn. He gets the benefits of working with the first team all week, and will play against an average (at best) defense at home (vice the Ravens like his first outing) with the full complement of Philly offensive weapons (healthy Westbrook and Jackson along with Celek, Shady, etc.)

Kolb is being sold very short based on limited data in unusual circumstances and it really makes no sense. Even the league's worst starters would have a promising outlook in this game at home against the Saints, so why doesn't Kolb get at least that much of the B.O.D? Like I said...it makes no sense.

A good sneaky play for those without a clear starter this week.

 

[G-King]

I think Kolb is going to do a lot better than what people think this week. I actually picked him up off waivers in one of my leagues and am starting him over Hasselbeck. Its a high-risk move but I'm taking the chance this week.

FWIW-I talk to Kevin weekly, as he is a friend of mine. At the risk of getting bashed about "rose colored glasses" I will first say-YES- I am looking through them. But I can tell you that Kevin is pumped up about this opportunity and has worked all week studying and is stoked about getting to finally play with the first team. We all see how bad he's looked when pushed into game action (although there have been lots of drops by his wr's and his first ever interception hit the wr in both hands and he popped it up), but we have to realize that he normally spends the week posing as the opponents QB, throwing balls at receivers who we have never heard of outside of Philly fans. He is now running with the first team and looking forward to this chance to show what hes got. Will he come out and fail? Maybe... Can he come out and lead Philly to victory in an impressive fashion? Maybe.... But either way, it wont be because he isnt working hard and looking for this to springboard into something better. What he is NOT doing is sitting on the bench, just trying to get a paycheck as a career back up. This guy is very driven, and very smart. A HOF coach that I got the privledge of taking fishing this past spring told me that at the NFL combine, Kevin was the best interview there. He was extremely smart and very coachable, and respected how well he handled himself. He was so impressed with him that he told me to let him know that, next time we were together.Again I AM NOT PREDICTING that he will be carried out on Reid's shoulders in a ticker tape parade- I'm just giving a little background and saying to give him a chance before everyone calls for his head.

Very interesting. Not to turn this into AC. I had been sitting on Kolb, but last year's performance convinced me to drop him. Worth dropping Leftwich for him in Dynasty you think?

Obviously how he does tomorrow will tell you alot. If he fails like 95% are expecting, then it may be tough to get the coaches confidence back. (which trust me- HE possess it!)But if he is successful, there are plans for him.I talked to him two hours ago and he was relaxed, but excited about tomorrow. He said he had his first full work week with the starters and feels very good about the team. I dont want to post publicly what the game plan is, but there will be some suprises. Dont be fooled that there isnt a bunch of short, control style passes either-he will challenge the man coverage. (Dont miss the first series)Dont know if I helped your delimma, but I would hold in Dynasty just in case.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

A lot of folks have bought into the notion that he "hasn't done anything with his chances"...but the truth is that his chances have been extremely limited.

There's only been two games where Kolb saw any significant action. The first was against Baltimore last year. The Eagles offense had been stifled all day, and Kolb took over with a team that had barely moved the ball to that point. He promptly led a long drive. While it ended with an ugly interception...it's unfortunate that he's remembered only for the pick and not the drive (the FIRST DRIVE that actually did anything in the game) down the length of the field.

The second chance was last week...in a BLOWOUT. With a huge lead and a backup QB, Philly pulled Westbrook and played extremely conservative. They asked nothing of Kolb except to avoid turnovers, which he did. To call his performance bad is disengenius under the circumstances.

Now this week....a high pick who's now had two full camps as a backup to learn. He gets the benefits of working with the first team all week, and will play against an average (at best) defense at home (vice the Ravens like his first outing) with the full complement of Philly offensive weapons (healthy Westbrook and Jackson along with Celek, Shady, etc.)

Kolb is being sold very short based on limited data in unusual circumstances and it really makes no sense. Even the league's worst starters would have a promising outlook in this game at home against the Saints, so why doesn't Kolb get at least that much of the B.O.D? Like I said...it makes no sense.

A good sneaky play for those without a clear starter this week.

All you've really established is that we don't know how he'll perform. The Saints defense actually played OK last week. Theyshut down Kevin Smith, picked off 3 balls, held Stafford to 43% completion rate, and the 3 TDs were: set up by a long punt return, set up a long Calvin catch and run, and a defensive TD scored by Louis Delmas. Gregg Williams has the D playing more aggressively, and let's also remember that the Eagles new look offensive line has two starters out (one for the year), plus FA pickup Stacy Andrews demoted to 2nd team. The Saints also have Will Smith and Charles Grant - no starcaps suspension.Of course, it's not impossible that Kolb comes out and looks ready for prime time, putting up a good stat line. But nothing about what we've seen from him or the NO defense last week makes it seem like the smart move to expect it. There are very few QBs I'd play him over this week... Russell, Stafford, Delhomme, Cassel, maybe Quinn, that's about it.

 

[Avery]

A lot of folks have bought into the notion that he "hasn't done anything with his chances"...but the truth is that his chances have been extremely limited.

There's only been two games where Kolb saw any significant action. The first was against Baltimore last year. The Eagles offense had been stifled all day, and Kolb took over with a team that had barely moved the ball to that point. He promptly led a long drive. While it ended with an ugly interception...it's unfortunate that he's remembered only for the pick and not the drive (the FIRST DRIVE that actually did anything in the game) down the length of the field.

The second chance was last week...in a BLOWOUT. With a huge lead and a backup QB, Philly pulled Westbrook and played extremely conservative. They asked nothing of Kolb except to avoid turnovers, which he did. To call his performance bad is disengenius under the circumstances.

Now this week....a high pick who's now had two full camps as a backup to learn. He gets the benefits of working with the first team all week, and will play against an average (at best) defense at home (vice the Ravens like his first outing) with the full complement of Philly offensive weapons (healthy Westbrook and Jackson along with Celek, Shady, etc.)

Kolb is being sold very short based on limited data in unusual circumstances and it really makes no sense. Even the league's worst starters would have a promising outlook in this game at home against the Saints, so why doesn't Kolb get at least that much of the B.O.D? Like I said...it makes no sense.

A good sneaky play for those without a clear starter this week.

All you've really established is that we don't know how he'll perform. The Saints defense actually played OK last week. Theyshut down Kevin Smith, picked off 3 balls, held Stafford to 43% completion rate, and the 3 TDs were: set up by a long punt return, set up a long Calvin catch and run, and a defensive TD scored by Louis Delmas. Gregg Williams has the D playing more aggressively, and let's also remember that the Eagles new look offensive line has two starters out (one for the year), plus FA pickup Stacy Andrews demoted to 2nd team. The Saints also have Will Smith and Charles Grant - no starcaps suspension.Of course, it's not impossible that Kolb comes out and looks ready for prime time, putting up a good stat line. But nothing about what we've seen from him or the NO defense last week makes it seem like the smart move to expect it. There are very few QBs I'd play him over this week... Russell, Stafford, Delhomme, Cassel, maybe Quinn, that's about it.

Sig's swift kick of reality is kinda a downer... think I'll still roll with him over Sanchez in New England.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

A lot of folks have bought into the notion that he "hasn't done anything with his chances"...but the truth is that his chances have been extremely limited.

There's only been two games where Kolb saw any significant action. The first was against Baltimore last year. The Eagles offense had been stifled all day, and Kolb took over with a team that had barely moved the ball to that point. He promptly led a long drive. While it ended with an ugly interception...it's unfortunate that he's remembered only for the pick and not the drive (the FIRST DRIVE that actually did anything in the game) down the length of the field.

The second chance was last week...in a BLOWOUT. With a huge lead and a backup QB, Philly pulled Westbrook and played extremely conservative. They asked nothing of Kolb except to avoid turnovers, which he did. To call his performance bad is disengenius under the circumstances.

Now this week....a high pick who's now had two full camps as a backup to learn. He gets the benefits of working with the first team all week, and will play against an average (at best) defense at home (vice the Ravens like his first outing) with the full complement of Philly offensive weapons (healthy Westbrook and Jackson along with Celek, Shady, etc.)

Kolb is being sold very short based on limited data in unusual circumstances and it really makes no sense. Even the league's worst starters would have a promising outlook in this game at home against the Saints, so why doesn't Kolb get at least that much of the B.O.D? Like I said...it makes no sense.

A good sneaky play for those without a clear starter this week.

All you've really established is that we don't know how he'll perform. The Saints defense actually played OK last week. Theyshut down Kevin Smith, picked off 3 balls, held Stafford to 43% completion rate, and the 3 TDs were: set up by a long punt return, set up a long Calvin catch and run, and a defensive TD scored by Louis Delmas. Gregg Williams has the D playing more aggressively, and let's also remember that the Eagles new look offensive line has two starters out (one for the year), plus FA pickup Stacy Andrews demoted to 2nd team. The Saints also have Will Smith and Charles Grant - no starcaps suspension.Of course, it's not impossible that Kolb comes out and looks ready for prime time, putting up a good stat line. But nothing about what we've seen from him or the NO defense last week makes it seem like the smart move to expect it. There are very few QBs I'd play him over this week... Russell, Stafford, Delhomme, Cassel, maybe Quinn, that's about it.

Sig's swift kick of reality is kinda a downer... think I'll still roll with him over Sanchez in New England.

Why roll with the unknown quantity over the QB who looked good last week?

 

[Avery]

A lot of folks have bought into the notion that he "hasn't done anything with his chances"...but the truth is that his chances have been extremely limited.

There's only been two games where Kolb saw any significant action. The first was against Baltimore last year. The Eagles offense had been stifled all day, and Kolb took over with a team that had barely moved the ball to that point. He promptly led a long drive. While it ended with an ugly interception...it's unfortunate that he's remembered only for the pick and not the drive (the FIRST DRIVE that actually did anything in the game) down the length of the field.

The second chance was last week...in a BLOWOUT. With a huge lead and a backup QB, Philly pulled Westbrook and played extremely conservative. They asked nothing of Kolb except to avoid turnovers, which he did. To call his performance bad is disengenius under the circumstances.

Now this week....a high pick who's now had two full camps as a backup to learn. He gets the benefits of working with the first team all week, and will play against an average (at best) defense at home (vice the Ravens like his first outing) with the full complement of Philly offensive weapons (healthy Westbrook and Jackson along with Celek, Shady, etc.)

Kolb is being sold very short based on limited data in unusual circumstances and it really makes no sense. Even the league's worst starters would have a promising outlook in this game at home against the Saints, so why doesn't Kolb get at least that much of the B.O.D? Like I said...it makes no sense.

A good sneaky play for those without a clear starter this week.

All you've really established is that we don't know how he'll perform. The Saints defense actually played OK last week. Theyshut down Kevin Smith, picked off 3 balls, held Stafford to 43% completion rate, and the 3 TDs were: set up by a long punt return, set up a long Calvin catch and run, and a defensive TD scored by Louis Delmas. Gregg Williams has the D playing more aggressively, and let's also remember that the Eagles new look offensive line has two starters out (one for the year), plus FA pickup Stacy Andrews demoted to 2nd team. The Saints also have Will Smith and Charles Grant - no starcaps suspension.Of course, it's not impossible that Kolb comes out and looks ready for prime time, putting up a good stat line. But nothing about what we've seen from him or the NO defense last week makes it seem like the smart move to expect it. There are very few QBs I'd play him over this week... Russell, Stafford, Delhomme, Cassel, maybe Quinn, that's about it.

Sig's swift kick of reality is kinda a downer... think I'll still roll with him over Sanchez in New England.

Why roll with the unknown quantity over the QB who looked good last week?

I may be over thinking this but we don't know much about Sanchez yet. Sure he looked solid a one game sample, but that game was against a Texans team that barely showed up. I'm thinking that Belichek will give Sanchez some new looks Sanchez has never seen before that will make the rookie struggle. I know Kolb has not looked good in his limited appearances, but this is the first start he's had with a full week of first team snaps and given two pretty unknown entities, I'm thinking about rolling with the guy against New Orleans D with better offensive weapons rather than the guy against new New England's D.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

A lot of folks have bought into the notion that he "hasn't done anything with his chances"...but the truth is that his chances have been extremely limited.

There's only been two games where Kolb saw any significant action. The first was against Baltimore last year. The Eagles offense had been stifled all day, and Kolb took over with a team that had barely moved the ball to that point. He promptly led a long drive. While it ended with an ugly interception...it's unfortunate that he's remembered only for the pick and not the drive (the FIRST DRIVE that actually did anything in the game) down the length of the field.

The second chance was last week...in a BLOWOUT. With a huge lead and a backup QB, Philly pulled Westbrook and played extremely conservative. They asked nothing of Kolb except to avoid turnovers, which he did. To call his performance bad is disengenius under the circumstances.

Now this week....a high pick who's now had two full camps as a backup to learn. He gets the benefits of working with the first team all week, and will play against an average (at best) defense at home (vice the Ravens like his first outing) with the full complement of Philly offensive weapons (healthy Westbrook and Jackson along with Celek, Shady, etc.)

Kolb is being sold very short based on limited data in unusual circumstances and it really makes no sense. Even the league's worst starters would have a promising outlook in this game at home against the Saints, so why doesn't Kolb get at least that much of the B.O.D? Like I said...it makes no sense.

A good sneaky play for those without a clear starter this week.

All you've really established is that we don't know how he'll perform. The Saints defense actually played OK last week. Theyshut down Kevin Smith, picked off 3 balls, held Stafford to 43% completion rate, and the 3 TDs were: set up by a long punt return, set up a long Calvin catch and run, and a defensive TD scored by Louis Delmas. Gregg Williams has the D playing more aggressively, and let's also remember that the Eagles new look offensive line has two starters out (one for the year), plus FA pickup Stacy Andrews demoted to 2nd team. The Saints also have Will Smith and Charles Grant - no starcaps suspension.Of course, it's not impossible that Kolb comes out and looks ready for prime time, putting up a good stat line. But nothing about what we've seen from him or the NO defense last week makes it seem like the smart move to expect it. There are very few QBs I'd play him over this week... Russell, Stafford, Delhomme, Cassel, maybe Quinn, that's about it.

Sig's swift kick of reality is kinda a downer... think I'll still roll with him over Sanchez in New England.

Why roll with the unknown quantity over the QB who looked good last week?

I may be over thinking this but we don't know much about Sanchez yet. Sure he looked solid a one game sample, but that game was against a Texans team that barely showed up. I'm thinking that Belichek will give Sanchez some new looks Sanchez has never seen before that will make the rookie struggle. I know Kolb has not looked good in his limited appearances, but this is the first start he's had with a full week of first team snaps and given two pretty unknown entities, I'm thinking about rolling with the guy against New Orleans D with better offensive weapons rather than the guy against new New England's D.

I can buy Belichick throwing curveballs at the rook theory, but the NE D looked like they were playing "keep it in front of you" ball last week, and Edwards was able to move the Bills by taking checkdowns. They also lost Mayo. I actually expect Sanchez, Keller, Cotchery, and Washington to all have good days against this waning defense. They will miss Seymour.

 

[Couch Potato]

In one of my leagues I unfortunately haven't properly addressed my QB2, and with McNabb out I have these stellar options to choose from: Quinn, Kolb, Bulger (Dodds' 3 lowest QBs this week -- just shoot me now).

No way I'm going with Bulger at WAS. I'm going with Kolb over Quinn because I think there's a big difference in the playmakers surrounding these QBs and their ability to make things happen after the catch. Westbrook, DeSean Jackson, Curtis, Avant, Celek, maybe a little Maclin and McCoy. Philly is a passing offense already and Kolb will have to pass to keep up with Brees & Co. I'm hoping Kolb has learned something from his previous tries on the field and will (with the help of his playmakers) show up with a decent game. *fingers crossed*

 

[Breesisdaman]

I wouldnt expect much from kobb in this game. He is going to get picked off at least twice, maybe more. This is not last years Saints defense by any means.

 

[Avery]

I wouldnt expect much from kobb in this game. He is going to get picked off at least twice, maybe more. This is not last years Saints defense by any means.

That may well be, but one good game against the Detroit Lions surely can't be looked at as much evidence of any defensive prowess.

 

[renesauz]

A lot of folks have bought into the notion that he "hasn't done anything with his chances"...but the truth is that his chances have been extremely limited.

There's only been two games where Kolb saw any significant action. The first was against Baltimore last year. The Eagles offense had been stifled all day, and Kolb took over with a team that had barely moved the ball to that point. He promptly led a long drive. While it ended with an ugly interception...it's unfortunate that he's remembered only for the pick and not the drive (the FIRST DRIVE that actually did anything in the game) down the length of the field.

The second chance was last week...in a BLOWOUT. With a huge lead and a backup QB, Philly pulled Westbrook and played extremely conservative. They asked nothing of Kolb except to avoid turnovers, which he did. To call his performance bad is disengenius under the circumstances.

Now this week....a high pick who's now had two full camps as a backup to learn. He gets the benefits of working with the first team all week, and will play against an average (at best) defense at home (vice the Ravens like his first outing) with the full complement of Philly offensive weapons (healthy Westbrook and Jackson along with Celek, Shady, etc.)

Kolb is being sold very short based on limited data in unusual circumstances and it really makes no sense. Even the league's worst starters would have a promising outlook in this game at home against the Saints, so why doesn't Kolb get at least that much of the B.O.D? Like I said...it makes no sense.

A good sneaky play for those without a clear starter this week.

All you've really established is that we don't know how he'll perform. The Saints defense actually played OK last week. Theyshut down Kevin Smith, picked off 3 balls, held Stafford to 43% completion rate, and the 3 TDs were: set up by a long punt return, set up a long Calvin catch and run, and a defensive TD scored by Louis Delmas. Gregg Williams has the D playing more aggressively, and let's also remember that the Eagles new look offensive line has two starters out (one for the year), plus FA pickup Stacy Andrews demoted to 2nd team. The Saints also have Will Smith and Charles Grant - no starcaps suspension.Of course, it's not impossible that Kolb comes out and looks ready for prime time, putting up a good stat line. But nothing about what we've seen from him or the NO defense last week makes it seem like the smart move to expect it. There are very few QBs I'd play him over this week... Russell, Stafford, Delhomme, Cassel, maybe Quinn, that's about it.

I certainly understand caution, and agree that therer is no proof that he'll go off. But neither is there any reasonable proof that he won't. By saying there are only 4 or 5 guys you'd start him over...you've assumed he won't...while I provided plenty of (anecdotal) evidance that he may very well have a fine day. In the end, a ranking more towards the middle makes a lot more sense. I wouldn't advocate starting him over any normal top 12 or so QB, but if you're hurting....there's some nice upside here.

 

[EBF]

I wouldn't start him until he shows something encouraging, which he hasn't done in his opportunities thus far.

 

[editor47]

i agree with what renesauz said earlier: he has had limited chances and has never had a chance to practice with the first team for the full week leading up to the game. all week, i've been telling people to remember the long drive he QBed against the ravens and to forget about the INT. he looked good on that drive.

the problem is, if he isn't at least good in this game, he may not get another chance.

i predict 22-for-35, 268 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT. Eagles win, 23-20.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Eagles downers and Kolb downers tend to look at that INT at the end of the Baltimore game as the "end all" to their expectations for Kolb. Shame on them.

You've got to look past that INT and see the whole drive leading up to it. The INT was not Kolb's fault.

I am starting Kolb in at least one league this week and he will be the difference in MY WIN!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I see kolb getting yanked.

 

[The Comedian]

I like how "sneaky" has come to mean "extremely risky bad idea."

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

I like how "sneaky" has come to mean "extremely risky bad idea."

 

[Milwaukees_best]

I am stuck between Brett Favre and Kevin Kolb, due to the mcnabb injury. Critical early season divisional game for our league and I have to make the right call.

Deep down I think the Vikings get up huge on Detroit and Brett comes out and TJAX gets lots of PT.

Darren Sharper scares the crap out of me as a potential Kolb Starter.

Whats the scouting report on Kolb, does he throw a decent deep ball?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Kob is listed extremely low. Even for those who don't believe in him, against a suspect secondary that struggled on the road last year AND playing at home....I'm not buying the ranking at all. I'm not trying to suggest that he should be a top ten QB or anything, but bottom five is simply ludicrous unless you expect him to get yanked.

The rankings are based on the projections, and right now there's no logical reason to project any other Philly QB to play, so let's forego that excuse already.

It bares watching, but if Kolb is the starter, he makes a solid second QB in start two leagues, or a sneaky start for a desperate team (like a McNabb owner either lacking a decent backup or who's backup has a tough matchup this week).

If Kolb starts, he's a virtual lock to put up top 15 or so numbers this week.

I agree with your everything you say except for the last sentence. What has Kolb done to make you think that he's a "virtual lock" to finish in the top 15 this week? I'm not saying that he won't be top 15. I just don't think that there is enough data to consider him a lock. The Eagles have a potent offense but Kolb has not done well with this offense in his very few stints at the helm.

As I've been saying to anyone who has asked me this week, don't write Kolb off so fast.Yes, he wasn't good in his two NFL appearances, but those were both in relief - last year in Baltimore (bad throw which was a Pick 6) and vs. Carolina last week. Neither of those efforts were a true barometer of his potential.

What should be noted is that a QB is much, much different when he knows that he will be the starter for a given Sunday as soon as possible. If he starts the practice week with the first string and gets all the practice reps, digs into the game plan and focuses like he is the starter that week, it is far, far different.

I'm not saying "Start Kolb with confidence" in fantasy this week, but I would say that you should grab him if you can on the cheap, especially in Keeper or Dynasty leagues.

 

[Slider]

Kolb's int in Baltimore is as bad as the booing Santa recollection.

He drove the team down the field on that drive (better than McNabb could do all game) and threw a pick to one of the best defensive players on one of the best defenses. Yep, bad throw but if he threw it to the WR he would have been the Eagles new QB.

 

[renesauz]

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Missed the last 6 or 7 minutes of the game, but at least up to that point it seemed Kolb was one of the few bright spots for the Eagles on the field.

How many yards did he get Bloomy?

Gotta say I called this one right.

But that defense was terrible. :( :( :(

 

[Powder]

Considering Hasselback got hurt I think I got lucky starting Kolb.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Hmmmmmmmmm.Missed the last 6 or 7 minutes of the game, but at least up to that point it seemed Kolb was one of the few bright spots for the Eagles on the field.How many yards did he get Bloomy?Gotta say I called this one right. But that defense was terrible. :( :( :(

If the Eagles had played well, this would have been a pedestrian game for Kolb. Kolb didn't look that great at all- almost half of his yards came in garbage time. Garrard, Kolb, and Leftwich all had nice fantasy games because their teams fell behind big. David Carr used to do this, too, but it didn't make him a good QB.

 

[editor47]

Hmmmmmmmmm.Missed the last 6 or 7 minutes of the game, but at least up to that point it seemed Kolb was one of the few bright spots for the Eagles on the field.How many yards did he get Bloomy?Gotta say I called this one right. But that defense was terrible.

If the Eagles had played well, this would have been a pedestrian game for Kolb. Kolb didn't look that great at all- almost half of his yards came in garbage time. Garrard, Kolb, and Leftwich all had nice fantasy games because their teams fell behind big. David Carr used to do this, too, but it didn't make him a good QB.

considering most people were addressing his value as a fantasy QB in this thread, that's really what matters isn't it? a good part of deciding who to start is deciding who will have the most opportunity. kolb was going to be in a shootout. he was in an offense that likes to throw the ball. i wish i'd have started kolb over trent edwards. kolb had a very productive first half. he would have had at least 275 yards passing if the game had remained close. unfortunately, he made a horrific pass early in the 3rd quarter that was interecepted. i blame it on lack of experience. the more he plays, the better he'll be.didn't someone in this thread say they'd rather start jamarcus russell than kolb? how did that work out for you? any game kolb starts that isn't against a top 10 defense he's in the top half of QBs. i bet he starts against KC and he'll put up another good game, though probably not as good (fantasy-wise) as today.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Hmmmmmmmmm.Missed the last 6 or 7 minutes of the game, but at least up to that point it seemed Kolb was one of the few bright spots for the Eagles on the field.How many yards did he get Bloomy?Gotta say I called this one right. But that defense was terrible. :(

If the Eagles had played well, this would have been a pedestrian game for Kolb. Kolb didn't look that great at all- almost half of his yards came in garbage time. Garrard, Kolb, and Leftwich all had nice fantasy games because their teams fell behind big. David Carr used to do this, too, but it didn't make him a good QB.

Completely disagree.Kolb looked above average.He was 14-22-196-1-0 for a 107.4 rating in the first half in a game that was 17-13 New Orleans after two quarters.The Saints keyed on Westbrook and shutting down the ground game, forcing Kolb to beat them. He would have if the Eagles defense could have stopped them (or not turned the ball over deep).Yes, Kolb padded the numbers by throwing a ton in the second half, but that's what the game called for. He looked poised in the pocket and only made one or two bad throws (Pick 6 and another INT which was tipped). The 3rd INT was on the last play of the game.Kolb is a solid QB2 based on that performance and we'll know even more after he plays KC this week.

 

[renesauz]

Hmmmmmmmmm.Missed the last 6 or 7 minutes of the game, but at least up to that point it seemed Kolb was one of the few bright spots for the Eagles on the field.How many yards did he get Bloomy?Gotta say I called this one right. But that defense was terrible. :(

If the Eagles had played well, this would have been a pedestrian game for Kolb. Kolb didn't look that great at all- almost half of his yards came in garbage time. Garrard, Kolb, and Leftwich all had nice fantasy games because their teams fell behind big. David Carr used to do this, too, but it didn't make him a good QB.

Completely disagree.Kolb looked above average.He was 14-22-196-1-0 for a 107.4 rating in the first half in a game that was 17-13 New Orleans after two quarters.The Saints keyed on Westbrook and shutting down the ground game, forcing Kolb to beat them. He would have if the Eagles defense could have stopped them (or not turned the ball over deep).Yes, Kolb padded the numbers by throwing a ton in the second half, but that's what the game called for. He looked poised in the pocket and only made one or two bad throws (Pick 6 and another INT which was tipped). The 3rd INT was on the last play of the game.Kolb is a solid QB2 based on that performance and we'll know even more after he plays KC this week.

Kolb should be back on the radar in dynasty leagues, and a nice handcuff to McNabb in all leagues.