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Biggest problem was Culpepper was asking for too much money. He needs to back off on his asking price. Most likely lands in Tampa, Atlanta, or Jets at this point.BTW, I don't like Culpepper in NE. He doesn't fit that system very well. He is not an accurate QB. I like Cassel as your back up. He is a solid backup.
Are you talking about Daunte (64.2% completion for his career) Culpepper?The same guy that set an NCAA record for single-season completion percentage at 73.6%? That Daunte Culpepper?
The guy who has about a 2/1 INT/TD ratio and QB rating in the 70s over the past 2 years? The guy who's sustained very serious injuries? Yeah, that one.
I don't think Pepper would even have a chance to compete for the starter's spot in Buffalo or Washington. They both have talented young QBs who they drafted high and have shown positive signs so far.
A few years ago when Culpepper was a concensus top 3 QB in football and I kept telling everyone that Moss made him, we had this exact discussion. I said that his passes weren't really that accurate when you watched him throw and that his stats were a product of the system. Most people laughed at me saying that and also laughed when I said that he was not one of the 3 best QBs in the league.
How about adding KC to the list?
I agree with this. He has a cannon for an arm, but his accuracy has always been suspect to me. With guys like Moss & Carter to go get the ball, his stats are skewed.A few years ago when Culpepper was a concensus top 3 QB in football and I kept telling everyone that Moss made him, we had this exact discussion. I said that his passes weren't really that accurate when you watched him throw and that his stats were a product of the system. Most people laughed at me saying that and also laughed when I said that he was not one of the 3 best QBs in the league.
How's this for an indicator? In madden franchise mode Culpepper seems to end up on KC pretty often.There aren't 32 men on the planet that can play NFL Quarterback at an elite level. Is Culpepper still capable of rejoining that fraternity, or is have his skills and confidence declined enough that he is at best a capable backup QB? I have a feeling Culpepper still thinks he can be a productive starter, but how many teams will give him that opportunity is a very short list.How about adding KC to the list?
And you feel him wrecking his knee proved your point?A few years ago when Culpepper was a concensus top 3 QB in football and I kept telling everyone that Moss made him, we had this exact discussion. I said that his passes weren't really that accurate when you watched him throw and that his stats were a product of the system. Most people laughed at me saying that and also laughed when I said that he was not one of the 3 best QBs in the league.
, but as to the Couch signing, I wouldn't read too much into it. Quinn Gray is injured and the Jags only have 3 healthy QBs in camp right now. Most teams like to run with 4 QBs so the starter doesn't get too many reps and they can still keep things running smoothly. Couch has reportedly added 20 pounds and decreased his body fat a great deal so it would seem he's in great shape. But this is a long shot at best to even make the roster unless someone gets hurt or traded.
One thing to remember is that Couch had a workout lined up with the Atlanta Falcons that he canceled to sign with Jacksonville. At a glace, Atlanta appears to be a better situation for him, so I have to think Jax sold him on his potential future there.I hate to hijack this Culpepper thread
I thought he had a good %..dam couldnt be Moss doing it all could it? I know he did not play with Moss is college..I still would like to se him In NE as a back up..let Cassals be the 2-3 guy
Yea, there is something a little odd about it. Maybe the Jags plan on trading a QB or are upset by Quinn Gray's somewhat mysterious ankle injury and plan on cutting him loose.Block said:One thing to remember is that Couch had a workout lined up with the Atlanta Falcons that he canceled to sign with Jacksonville. At a glace, Atlanta appears to be a better situation for him, so I have to think Jax sold him on his potential future there.Wadsworth said:I hate to hijack this Culpepper thread, but as to the Couch signing, I wouldn't read too much into it. Quinn Gray is injured and the Jags only have 3 healthy QBs in camp right now. Most teams like to run with 4 QBs so the starter doesn't get too many reps and they can still keep things running smoothly. Couch has reportedly added 20 pounds and decreased his body fat a great deal so it would seem he's in great shape. But this is a long shot at best to even make the roster unless someone gets hurt or traded.
I think Quinn Gray is the odd man out. I don't think Weaver is too keen on paying over a Mil for a third-stringer. To me it looks like the Jags save half the salary by going with either Couch or Lester Ricard as the weekly deactivated QB.Yea, there is something a little odd about it. Maybe the Jags plan on trading a QB or are upset by Quinn Gray's somewhat mysterious ankle injury and plan on cutting him loose.Block said:One thing to remember is that Couch had a workout lined up with the Atlanta Falcons that he canceled to sign with Jacksonville. At a glace, Atlanta appears to be a better situation for him, so I have to think Jax sold him on his potential future there.Wadsworth said:I hate to hijack this Culpepper thread
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stor...187830490.shtml
Wondering about this myself -- did he look so good in his work-out for them that they wanted to lock him up? After what seems like a life-time of him being out of the league and on the re-hab trail...just seems odd that suddenly he might be more than a curiosity. Would love to see him get back, and even start in the NFL...certainly a good story.chris1969 said:
I think this is mostly a management ploy to inspire the existing staff. Apparently JoeyH needs support and the confidence of management but Arthur Blank knows better to keep only one marginal QB and an extremely raw backup only in camp.If there are only the existing 2 QBs in camp in August, you can pencil in 3 wins for Atlanta for the season and write-off all of the offensive players except Alge Crumpler. There are so many things are happening negatively for Atlanta this year and very few positive. The only big unknown is the ultimate performance of the defense. I think they've made a lot of efforts in the past few years to bring in talent but they haven't performed well in the past unless EVERYBODY was healthy which happens about twice a year.(BTW, this thread was never highjacked - the discussion was supposed to be about Couch, CPep and the Falcons)
If he got little or no signing bonus then a two year deal would lock him up next year if he's good and allow them to cut him next year for nothing if he stinks.
