Quarterback sleeper (1 Viewer)

[bucsbaby]

Saw Eli going off the board in the QB 12-14 range in mocks yesterday behind a lot of QBs that he should outperform this year. For whatever reason, the community is really down on Eli and he has a lot of good weapons around him, assuming Nicks returns to health.

 

[montana_grizzly_bears]

Can Palmer be added here? Only 3k yards last year but still had 20+ tds. With 4 WR's and a new TE now someone should be open. ADP around #75 (6th round or so) on MDC and about 100 on ESPN.

 

[Ray_T]

I wouldnt classify Eli as a sleeper...Though I don't know why Eli is going so late... He can definitely win you a championship becuase you spend your earlier rounds building up a great wall, and then plug in a guy who topped 4000yds with a juicy TD statline in rnd 6-8.But I dont wanna be the guy who waits on him and gets him plucked right out of my hands.

I agree. he is no sleeper. A sleeper would be defined as a relative unknown who breaks out and completely shatters expectations about his production in every way shape or form.The problem with classifying Eli as a sleeper is that we know what he brings to the table and our expectations are at least somewhat in line with what he will produce fantasy wise.If Eli throws for 5000 yards, then I guess he would be classified as a sleeper, but if he throws for 4200 yards, he would be classified as a value pick as he outperformed his ADP.There is a huge difference between the two.dont get me wrong, I like Eli, and wouldnt mind having him on my team......but if he throws for 5000 yards, I'd be very surprised. we will leave it at that.I do agree he may well be a value pick in drafts/auctions this year, but I wouldnt expect much more from him.

 

[footballsavvy]

He's a sleeper in the sense that not many people are talking about him. Sure his ADP may not represent true sleeper value, but its always nice to have a thread like this reminding people of his potential.

Everyone pegging Kolb as their sleeper should probably factor in Vick in their projections. By all accounts he's looking more accurate than ever, and nearly as fast a he was in Atlanta. At a minimum he will be in the mix for gadget plays and perhaps even in a lot of red zone situations. I don't know if it will be enough to kill an otherwise good season from Kolb.... but it might.

As for Romo, he's at the mercy of the Dallas gameplan. There is a very good chance that their running game and solid defense doesn't allow for the type of season that will generate 550+ pass attempts. Drew Brees is a rare beast that can put up top fantasy stats on only 514 attempts. To put that into perspective, Chad Henne had more attempts than Drew Breese last season... Drews accuracy, combined with the potency of the offence creates extremely efficient production that probably will not be mirrored by any other QB this season.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

What is with all the threads lately with people talking about 4000/27 QBs "winning you you're league". A 4000/27 QB might have done that five years ago, but not anymore with the crazy inflated QB numbers we're seeing. 4000/27 would have been good for like QB12 last year. Getting QB12 in the 6th-8th round is not anywhere near a "win you your league" type of thing.For a QB to win you your league in the modern era, he's got to throw over 40 TDs as a mid-round pick.

Care to forward along on the math on this one?

Eli Manning was QB11 last year with 4050/27, making 4000/27 exactly QB12. I actually hadn't looked that up beforehand, pretty crazy that it was actually dead on.This is in my main league, which is 25yards per point passing, 4pt TDs, -2 for INTs.

 

[cr8f]

I almost never take a QB early but this year took Rodgers in the 2nd.

Sleeper would be Delhomme or Leinart.

 

[MongoL3]

I almost never take a QB early but this year took Rodgers in the 2nd. Sleeper would be Delhomme

Ive seen enough of that guy. He is just brutal

 

[seventwentykay]

I love Eli overall to potentially outproduce his draft position, but the one thing that scares me is his propensity to throw up turkey games late in the season at the wind tunnel that is The Meadowlands. And I'm not sure the new stadium is going to be much better...

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/news...-slideshow.html

Eli Manning is still figuring out the wind patterns, which he says are different here and will become an increasingly important factor in the colder games. “It did swirl on us here today,” Tom Coughlin said to reporters after practice.