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Good detective work wilked - we now know that the creator of this thread took the :11: to school every morning.
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Raiders are completley classless! (1 Viewer)
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I am the Beer God!
The guy is freaking stout - people talk about stud running backs but, forget fantasy football, this guy is a stud RB in the real world. It's like "Go ahead, try harder." When the guy drafted him in our league, the four people next in line spewed forth cusswords.Gotta agree with you here, he looked virtually unstoppable! He's a big guy with big legs and a really nice burst.........I saw 3 or 4 tackles where most guys legs might have buckled.........not Jordan, he's a monster.
Is it me or does L.Jordan have the look of a back that would never get an injury,he could get tackled 100 times a game and he`d bounce right up.
Agree, this guy is top 5 material rest of the year! It's amazing how he turned the corner on 2 of his TD's completley outrunning the Buffalo Secondary.The guy is freaking stout - people talk about stud running backs but, forget fantasy football, this guy is a stud RB in the real world. It's like "Go ahead, try harder." When the guy drafted him in our league, the four people next in line spewed forth cusswords.Gotta agree with you here, he looked virtually unstoppable! He's a big guy with big legs and a really nice burst.........I saw 3 or 4 tackles where most guys legs might have buckled.........not Jordan, he's a monster.
When the Criticizers of this thread run out of viable arguments they begin to get desperate and look for ANYTHING they can find to make themselves feel better. Digging up old threads. How about getting a life. Don't you have something better to be spending your time on than looking up "old jesse posts" that make you feel better about yourselves?Tuche' /\ lSpelling*
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
The classy thing to do would have been to take the knee once Buffalo was out of time outs and once Oakland had enough downs left to fully run the clock out. Regardless of whether Buffalo was doing all they could to get the ball back.This set of circumastances came into play on the 3rd down that they scored the TD on. The Colts would have kneeled in that situation. They did earlier this year if I remember correctly.Colts = ClassyRaiders = not ClassyNothing new to see here, move along.
Revo
Footballguy
Sorry, but points scored are an integral part of the NFL playoff tiebreaking system. It is included in tiebreaking scenarios not once, not twice, but SIX different times:5. Strength of victory.7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.9. Best net points in common games.10. Best net points in all games.11. Best net touchdowns in all games.If you think the Raiders should have let up on the Bills because they've beaten them so badly already, then you should brush up on your NFL rules.
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Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
No, they pounded the ball exactly once when they didn't need it to secure the victory. It's true that the game is played until the final whistle, so the Raiders did nothing wrong in pounding it that final time.But, it wasn't classy. In fact, it's the exact opposite of classy.1-10-BUF42 (2:52) L.Jordan up the middle to BUF 40 for 2 yards (A.Schobel).2-8-BUF40 (2:46) Z.Crockett right tackle to BUF 31 for 9 yards (J.Greer).
1-10-BUF31 (2:02) L.Jordan up the middle to BUF 24 for 7 yards (T.Vincent).
2-3-BUF24 (1:58) Z.Crockett right tackle to BUF 23 for 1 yard (T.Anderson, J.Greer).
3-2-BUF23 (1:47) Z.Crockett left end to BUF 11 for 12 yards (T.Vincent).
1-10-BUF11 (1:10) Z.Crockett up the middle to BUF 8 for 3 yards (C.Kelsay).
2-7-BUF8 (1:01) Z.Crockett right end to BUF 2 for 6 yards (A.Crowell).
3-1-BUF218) Z.Crockett right guard for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
A few minutes left and Buffalo had and used 2 timeouts. 2.
They kept pounding the ball over and over again cause the Bills run D couldn't stop them evan though they knew what was coming and continued to take timeouts to stop the clock and try and get the ball back until they ran out and the Raiders ran one more play..They did not run a hurry up offense and try to score.
If the Bills didn't want to get scored on again, don't take a timeout after a 1st and 10 play where the opponent gains 3 yards with 1:01 left and it's your last timeout.
They did not pound the ball over and over and over when Buffalo had no timeouts.
Wow....
GATOR HATER
Footballguy
Just WIN Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go tell this to the Colts buddy. This rule obviously doesn't come into effect nearly often enough or Manning wouldn't be handing the ball off the entire fourth quarter, he'd be passing and surpassing his TD record from last year.I believe this basically makes your argument irrelevant. Although if there was a good point made as to why the raiders did what they did today against buffalo, this is by far the best one on this thread.
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Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
And? The Colts did not have the opportunity to run out the clock, making it game over. Baltimore was going to get the ball back, one way or another, so attempting to put up more points is not classless. Had it been 3rd down with less than 30 seconds left, you would have a point.
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shakeybarn
Footballguy
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Big Score
Footballguy
A run. A pass attempt for a 1st down. Heck even a punt. Anything other than a shot at the end zone when up by 24 with barely over a minute left.What would be the classy thing to do in that situation?No offense guy, but up by 24 points with just a little over a minute left = Game Over. No need to take a shot at the end zone.That was not classy by the Colts, no matter how you try and spin it.
MGD Destroyer
Footballguy
That & a buck seventy five will get you a bus ride.
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Nicely put!
Dragons
Delusions of Grandeur
4th and 36 from the 42? The endzone WAS the first down.A punt, not into the endzone, gives Baltimore a chance at a return. A punt into the endzone doesn't drastically change field position. Although, it may have given their defense the shutdout. Probably a bad decision, but not classless.A run. A pass attempt for a 1st down. Heck even a punt. Anything other than a shot at the end zone when up by 24 with barely over a minute left.What would be the classy thing to do in that situation?No offense guy, but up by 24 points with just a little over a minute left = Game Over. No need to take a shot at the end zone.That was not classy by the Colts, no matter how you try and spin it.
While I agree that Baltimore pretty much had no chance to get back into the game, this situation is drastically different than Oakland/Buffalo. There was zero chance for Buffalo to get the ball back, thus zero chance for the outcome of the game to have changed had Oakland kneeled. That's not the case in the Indy/Baltimore game. As unlikely as it may be, Baltimore still had a chance.
BuckeyeArt
Footballguy
Doesn't anyone remeber this game? This is the rest of what happened:4th and 36 from the 42? The endzone WAS the first down.A punt, not into the endzone, gives Baltimore a chance at a return. A punt into the endzone doesn't drastically change field position. Although, it may have given their defense the shutdout. Probably a bad decision, but not classless.A run. A pass attempt for a 1st down. Heck even a punt. Anything other than a shot at the end zone when up by 24 with barely over a minute left.What would be the classy thing to do in that situation?No offense guy, but up by 24 points with just a little over a minute left = Game Over. No need to take a shot at the end zone.That was not classy by the Colts, no matter how you try and spin it.
While I agree that Baltimore pretty much had no chance to get back into the game, this situation is drastically different than Oakland/Buffalo. There was zero chance for Buffalo to get the ball back, thus zero chance for the outcome of the game to have changed had Oakland kneeled. That's not the case in the Indy/Baltimore game. As unlikely as it may be, Baltimore still had a chance.
It wasn't 4-36. That was a misprint. It was 3-11. They were trying to run out the clock and Baltimore was calling TO's. Manning got pissed and threw one in the endzone. Classy or not - who cares, it was great.
Does an "almost" count?It almost came into effect 6-7 years ago if I remember correctly. It came down to the final weekend where Green Bay and/or Carolina would have been a benefactor should X team loose in the afternoon (sorry, cant remember who X was). And if X lost, and both GB and Carolina both won, then total points between GB and Car. would have decided it.
Those two games were absolute fantasy goldmines. Buerlein and Favre were watching the others game on TV on the sideline. Back and forth running up the score like crazy, something like 5 td's in the final 3 minutes of both games. Carolina was up by something like 28 points and running thier 2 minute O with less than one minute because Favre just threw a td with under a minute. It was insane.
Raider Nation
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I am frankly ashamed that so many seemingly-intelligent shark poolers would bite on such a lame, transparent troll attempt. As was pointed out, the Bills kept calling timeouts "when the game was out of hand".... so they got what was coming to them.
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I am frankly ashamed that so many seemingly-intelligent shark poolers would bite on such a lame, transparent troll attempt. As was pointed out, the Bills kept calling timeouts "when the game was out of hand".... so they got what was coming to them.
An early Christmas gift for big jesse....
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Yeah I remember what happened. Heck, Dungy & Manning both came out and said it was a classless move, but it was done as payback to the Ravens for calling the time outs.Doesn't anyone remeber this game? This is the rest of what happened:4th and 36 from the 42? The endzone WAS the first down.A punt, not into the endzone, gives Baltimore a chance at a return. A punt into the endzone doesn't drastically change field position. Although, it may have given their defense the shutdout. Probably a bad decision, but not classless.A run. A pass attempt for a 1st down. Heck even a punt. Anything other than a shot at the end zone when up by 24 with barely over a minute left.What would be the classy thing to do in that situation?No offense guy, but up by 24 points with just a little over a minute left = Game Over. No need to take a shot at the end zone.That was not classy by the Colts, no matter how you try and spin it.
While I agree that Baltimore pretty much had no chance to get back into the game, this situation is drastically different than Oakland/Buffalo. There was zero chance for Buffalo to get the ball back, thus zero chance for the outcome of the game to have changed had Oakland kneeled. That's not the case in the Indy/Baltimore game. As unlikely as it may be, Baltimore still had a chance.It wasn't 4-36. That was a misprint. It was 3-11. They were trying to run out the clock and Baltimore was calling TO's. Manning got pissed and threw one in the endzone. Classy or not - who cares, it was great.
I was just wondering what kind of excuses Dragons was going to come up with.
Hey came up with some doozies didn't he
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I didn't read through this whole thread, but I don't believe in running up the score in the NFL. If you don't want the other team to score, play some defense and stop them from scoring.
Kleck
Footballguy
On that note...
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