Rank These RBs -- Mid 3rd to 4th (1 Viewer)

[mphtrilogy]

my draft was Tuesday, this was the order that night (high performance scoring extra points for long tds, non-ppr):

mccafrey rb10

crowell rb12

khunt rb13

fournette rb14

dcook rb15( I took him)

hyde rb17

ty m rb19

mixon rb26

 

[oddsbodkins]

Main concern with Hyde is that he gets injured again at some point.

Yep. He's burned me in the past so I opted for Hunt in PPR ahead of him. Also, if you're in a position where you can be patient, Mixon should pay off huge down the stretch once Lewis gets another lesson in how bad Hill is. 

 

[oddsbodkins]

I hear ya.  But I still avoid those players today

I avoided A-Rob because of Bortles. I also avoided Gurley because of Bortles.

 

[Jayded]

The problem is that if you're in the 1.04 to 1.06 range in PPR you are most likely taking WR/WR just due to value so you kind of need to start looking at RBs in the third.  I took a chance and went with Cook at the 3.04 in a very high buy-in league because he still offers upside being taken around RB12. 

Good point. I'm drafting 9th in a 10 team league so I feel like on the turn I'm the guy overpaying each round for fear that in the next 15 picks "my guy" will get selected. I feel pretty comfortable with my first two round plan and it gets dicey at the 3-4 turn for me since I'm going to most likely have to grab a top TE if I want one with one of those picks and then decide if I want the WR left (mocks it's usually D. Thomas, Pryor, Hopkins) or take a chance with one of the backs above (Hyde, Lynch, McCaffrey).

When I went WR, usually Lynch or Hyde fell to me to become my RB2 and pairing either with a solid RB1/WR1 in the first two rounds and a Kelce/Gronk was a great start. When I picked one of the RBs in this thread, I usually found myself regretting watching the others go not far behind me in Rd 4 and then at the end of Rd5 my WR options were more sparse for WR2 with potential high-upside guys like Bryant or vets like Fitz.

 

[Phenomena]

I'm not sure if Lamar Miller fits into this conversation but he slipped all the way to 4.09 in my $600 12-team PPR league.

I ended up taking him purely out of value - wasn't targeting him at all.  If his value is this depressed at the moment he should be a rock solid 4th round target for most people.  On a down year, while missing two games, with a crappy QB and o-line, the dude still had nearly 1300 all-purpose yards. You can't get better value than that in the late 3rd or early 4th round.

 

[Jayded]

So here's how they fared in our draft tonight, also with a surprise RB dropping like a brick that I'm kinda kicking myself for not picking now:

3.10 Crowell

4.03 Cook

4.05 Hunt

4.06 McCaffrey

4.07 Lynch

4.08 Hyde

4.09 Gurley

4.10 Mixon

5.09 Powell

I was the one taking Powell in the 5th, but now regret grabbing Hopkins at 4.02 since I couldn't decide between RBs and Gurley went falling like a brick. Seeing especially how things fell, I should have grabbed Gurley and gone WR next but I took the homer pick (Hop) and am still happy I got Powell. 

 

[meanjoegreen]

So here's how they fared in our draft tonight, also with a surprise RB dropping like a brick that I'm kinda kicking myself for not picking now:

3.10 Crowell

4.03 Cook

4.05 Hunt

4.06 McCaffrey

4.07 Lynch

4.08 Hyde

4.09 Gurley

4.10 Mixon

5.09 Powell

I was the one taking Powell in the 5th, but now regret grabbing Hopkins at 4.02 since I couldn't decide between RBs and Gurley went falling like a brick. Seeing especially how things fell, I should have grabbed Gurley and gone WR next but I took the homer pick (Hop) and am still happy I got Powell. 

What about Fournette?

 

[Jayded]

What about Fournette?

2.09. Guy was really bullish on him. Miller went 3.06. I got caught staring at a few guys who shouldn't be there multiple times and blinked once and hope I caught myself and balanced. 

For perspective, I took Zeke at 2.02 and was concerned how high I needed to grab my RB2 but panicked about WR2 instead where I prob could have grabbed value later. 

 

[ponchsox]

2.09. Guy was really bullish on him. Miller went 3.06. I got caught staring at a few guys who shouldn't be there multiple times and blinked once and hope I caught myself and balanced. 

For perspective, I took Zeke at 2.02 and was concerned how high I needed to grab my RB2 but panicked about WR2 instead where I prob could have grabbed value later. 

Wow Miller before Crow? He's a bum.

 

[Phenomena]

I think this thread should be getting more chatter. These 4th to 7th round RB picks are the biggest make or break picks in the draft. Picking the right ones in the right rounds wins league. 

 

[C-Bound]

Here's how mine went last night in PPR:

CMC - 2.07

Mixon - 2.09

Lynch - 3.02

Hunt - 3.10

Monty: 4.01

Crow: 4.05 (me)

Fournette: 4.06

Miller: 4.07

Cook: 5.03

Hyde: 5.04

Powell: 5.06 (me)

Abdul: 7.06 (me)

I also got Zeke at 2.05.  

 

[need2know]

Here's how mine went last night in PPR:

CMC - 2.07

Mixon - 2.09

Lynch - 3.02

Hunt - 3.10

Monty: 4.01

Crow: 4.05 (me)

Fournette: 4.06

Miller: 4.07

Cook: 5.03

Hyde: 5.04

Powell: 5.06 (me)

Abdul: 7.06 (me)

I also got Zeke at 2.05.  

Wow cook and Hyde way lower than expected and that guy that took mixon in round 2 must have been drunk

 

[C-Bound]

Wow cook and Hyde way lower than expected and that guy that took mixon in round 2 must have been drunk

Yea, I would have taken Hyde in the 4th if Crow hadn't been there.  Not sure what the guy who took Mixon thinks he knows.  Only time will tell.

 

[JuniorNB]

I'm not sure if Lamar Miller fits into this conversation but he slipped all the way to 4.09 in my $600 12-team PPR league.

I ended up taking him purely out of value - wasn't targeting him at all.  If his value is this depressed at the moment he should be a rock solid 4th round target for most people.  On a down year, while missing two games, with a crappy QB and o-line, the dude still had nearly 1300 all-purpose yards. You can't get better value than that in the late 3rd or early 4th round.

There's a strange thing that happens with rookies and unknown backups.  As soon as a situation looks like it might be promising, they become a super hot commodity.  And rightfully so in many cases. With so much information available, everyone has a shot at the same knowledge. It's hard to gain an advantage anymore and we all want to get a jump on drafting or picking up the next big thing.  But what also tends to happen is that guys who have been around a few years become boring picks. Regardless of their situation. Good examples are guys like Lamar Miller and CJ Anderson.  Miller has the job outright, can catch the ball out of the backfield, and is in a defensively weak division.  If his name was Kendrick Miller out of Tulane, people would be salivating over him. Anderson is a proven commodity who scores a lot of goal line touchdowns and has always been productive. His backup is a 31 year old guy who hasn't played in two years and is coming off of his second ACL injury. And Devonte Booker, who battles injuries himself and didn't impress last year as a rookie.

I like both of these guys as much as many of the guys on the list, but they're not glamorous picks.

 

[TartanLion]

CJ Anderson should be in here somewhere. Booker been injured, Charles hasn't shown much etc etc. He carries negative connotations from seasons gone by but seems to go around this area and is a starting RB by all accounts 

 

[Timmay]

As far as the rookies go I dont understand the thinking behind liking Mixon over Hunt, Fournette, or Cook at the moment. Will he be a better running back over the course of his career? maybe. But this year, Hunt, Fournette and Cook will have the first opportunities for their team to prove themselves. Marvin Lewis isn't going to throw Mixon in right from the start, he is going to have to contend for carries with Hill and Gio. Gio should get all the 3rd down work and late come from behind type work and Marvin will likely ride the hot hand late in games. No matter how bad Hill looks, Marvin will still stick with him. That is what Marvin does.

As for Fournette and Hunt, they are both going to get the carries. Only thing that Fournette scares me off, is that the Jags will be down early and often. Hunt in a proven Andy Reid offense where he treats his RB's well, plus mr check down Alex Smith is going to be looking early and often to Hunt. West and Spiller may take a few carries away, but not much.

Cook is going to get the first crack at RB in Minny, the offense line has their issues and Bradford is questionable, but Vikings defense is solid and should keep them in games. They didn't draft Cook that high for him to sit on the bench behind Murray.

 

[Biabreakable]

Booker has a wrist injury that was reported to take 6 weeks to recover from end of July. Its been 4 weeks already. 

I agree with JuniorNB overall point about shiny new toy syndrome, or just preferring the mystery box to a known but flawed player/situation. The players who haven't shown their flaws in regular season play yet like the veterans have.

That said Lamar Miller wasn't all that good last year and the Texans already stated they are going to scale back his touches, which is what Miami was doing with him as well. So he is likely getting a haircut in terms of touches per game compared to last season, which isn't really that good for his fantasy outlook.

Anderson still hasn't had more than 200 rushing attempts in one season, college or pro level yet.

Both players certainly deserve to be in this discussion. Just pointing out that these drawbacks, there are reasons why they are still available later on in the draft. We can only speculate on reasons why the new players might not do well. With Anderson and Miller we already know why. Or what their drawbacks are.

 

[theplayer11]

Where is Lamar Miller on this list?..higher than all?

 

[Biabreakable]

Where is Lamar Miller on this list?..higher than all?

In the original post kyoun1e says

I'm assuming Zeke, L. Miller, T. Gurley, and Lynch are gone.

Likely ADP reflects that but all of these guys besides Elliot should be in the same tier of RBs I think.

 

[Phenomena]

Where is Lamar Miller on this list?..higher than all?

He's assumed to be gone but that's a false assumption, as I noted - took Miller at 4.09 recently in a big buyin.

 

[shadrap]

Drafting today and I will post what happens in our draft.

The more I debate these guys, since they are the Rd 3-4 options likely in front of all of us, I'm wondering if the right move this year is to go WR or TE where these guys are going and see who falls. I'm growing more excited about getting a pairing like Kelce-D. Thomas and seeing if Hyde or Hunt or Lynch falls to grab in Rd 5 rather than overreaching for Fournette, Cook, McCaffrey, etc.

Anyone else starting to feel that way or are you strongly in a camp where these folks are tiered?

Hyde, Lynch, Hunt will not fall to the 5th rd, but I totally agree with your post.  Taking Ty Montgomery in the early 3rd rd(which I have done in 2 drafts) makes me gag as I really don't know what I'm getting.  weird year for me as far as faith in my picks.

 

[Shrek]

To illustrate how much it changes in the space of a week...

I am in 2 PPR leagues that are pretty similar in terms of owner savviness.

League 1- drafted 08/19

McCaffrey  RB12  3.10
Crowell  RB13  3.12
Cook RB14  4.7
Ware  RB15  4.8
Lynch  RB16  4.12
Ingram RB17  5.4
Hyde  RB18  5.6
Miller  RB19  5.7
Martin  RB20 5.10
Mixon  RB21  5.11
Blount  RB22  6.1
Woodhead RB23  6.10
CJ Anderson  RB24  7.5
Montgomery  RB25  7.8
Abdullah  RB26  7.11


League 2- Drafted 08/26

Murray RB9  3.01
Fournette  RB10  3.02
Lynch  RB11  3.04
Miller RB12  3.12
Montgomery RB13  4.05
Cook  RB14  4.07
CJ Anderson  RB15  4.09
Mixon  RB16  4.10
McCaffrey  RB17  5.06
Ingram RB18  5.09
Gilislee  RB19  5.10
Crowell  RB20  5.11  :wow:
Duke Johnson  RB21  6.01
Ware  RB22  6.06
Hyde  RB23  6.07
Abdullah  RB24  6.08
Blount  RB25  6.10
Lacy  RB26  7.09
Coleman  RB27  7.11 
 

 

[Aunt Jemima]

the drafts listed seem odd to me. I've done quite a few FPC drafts recently (which is also ppr) and Cook has skyrocketed, he goes in 2nd sometimes and always by 3.4 or so, McCaffrey also rarely makes it 3.8 and is usually going top of 3. Hunt is also now generally a late 2nd/early 3rd. ADP wise in FPC recently those guys are above the rest of this list.  You can find Mixon, fournette, late 4th or sometimes in the 5th now. My sample size isn't huge but have done 4 drafts since Sunday and all pretty consistent

 

[shadyridr]

I have them ranked

CMC

COOK

CROWELL 

HUNT

LYNCH

HYDE

TY 

last night I got cmc in the 3rd and hunt went pick ahead of me in the 4th. I was so upset but settled for hyde instead. 

 

[C-Bound]

To illustrate how much it changes in the space of a week...

I am in 2 PPR leagues that are pretty similar in terms of owner savviness.

League 1- drafted 08/19

McCaffrey  RB12  3.10
Crowell  RB13  3.12
Cook RB14  4.7
Ware  RB15  4.8
Lynch  RB16  4.12
Ingram RB17  5.4
Hyde  RB18  5.6
Miller  RB19  5.7
Martin  RB20 5.10
Mixon  RB21  5.11
Blount  RB22  6.1
Woodhead RB23  6.10
CJ Anderson  RB24  7.5
Montgomery  RB25  7.8
Abdullah  RB26  7.11


League 2- Drafted 08/26

Murray RB9  3.01
Fournette  RB10  3.02
Lynch  RB11  3.04
Miller RB12  3.12
Montgomery RB13  4.05
Cook  RB14  4.07
CJ Anderson  RB15  4.09
Mixon  RB16  4.10
McCaffrey  RB17  5.06
Ingram RB18  5.09
Gilislee  RB19  5.10
Crowell  RB20  5.11  :wow:
Duke Johnson  RB21  6.01
Ware  RB22  6.06
Hyde  RB23  6.07
Abdullah  RB24  6.08
Blount  RB25  6.10
Lacy  RB26  7.09
Coleman  RB27  7.11 
 

Where did Powell go?

 

[Darylrose]

Here is results from my draft 8/27.  12 team PPR start 1 - 2 - 3 -1 

Crowell  RB11  3.1
Cook RB12  3.2
Ingram RB13  3.9
McCaffrey  RB14  3.10
Powell RB15 3.12
Montgomery  RB16  4.3
Miller  RB17  4.7
Fournette RB18 4.8
Mixon  RB19  5.2
Hunt RB20 5.3

Lynch RB21 5.4
Woodhead RB22  5.7

Abdullah  RB23 5.11
CJ Anderson  RB24  6.5
Hyde  RB25  6.8

 

[Ned Ryerson]

PPR from the other night-

RB 10 Ingram (weird reach)

RB11- CMC

12- Zeke

13 Fournette

14 Crowell

15- Cook

16- Miller

17- Hunt

18- Lynch

19- Anderson

20- Ty Mont

21- Mixon

22- Hyde

 

[Shrek]

Where did Powell go?

He went 8.5 in the first draft, and 9.5 in the second draft. Kind of strange, because it has actually seemed like his value has crept up in recent weeks.