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Ranking Your Team's Draft (Day 1) (1 Viewer)
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Don't think you'll find many people agreeing with this assessment. Just the opposite in fact. We weren't going to get an immediate impact WR in the draft, but we did get one who could develope into a nice deep weapon, but who is the best returner we've had in YEARS, a solid DT, fleeced an extra first from the Panthers, moved up a fourth rounder into the third. What exactly, were you expecting?Please...great job by the birds today.
Chachi
Footballguy
Are you seriously a fan of the Eagles? WOW
I'm an Eagles fan, and the end result was quite satisfying. Geting that 1 next year is very nice, and I can't help but wonder if the Eagles still can't pull off a deal with the Cards or Leos to get the real WR they want with that future 1. Even if that doesn;t happen I was happy, but I do not expect Jackson to be an impact at WR, he's a great return man, he has great speed, but man is he small.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
I'll be generous to my Bengals and give them a B, with a caveat.
They have to get a DT with their next pick. Assuming at least one of Moore, Bryant, Rubin, Sims and Harrison is there.
The kid from Coastal Carolina seems like a reach, but he was graded out at 66th by cbs sportsline so it's reasonable to think he may not have been around for them at 3-14 and if they liked him that much and couldn't move back it's reasonable to grab him there. Sounds like the kid can jump and has big hands and good speed. Given the track record the team has drafting receivers over the years, I'll trust their judgement in a way that I wouldn't with most other positions.
I'm fine with Rivers in round 2, though it's tough seeing that the price to move up to NE's spot was fairly cheap. I certainly would've been happier getting Ellis there. I'm liking our RB corps a lot more going into next season.
-QG
They have to get a DT with their next pick. Assuming at least one of Moore, Bryant, Rubin, Sims and Harrison is there.
The kid from Coastal Carolina seems like a reach, but he was graded out at 66th by cbs sportsline so it's reasonable to think he may not have been around for them at 3-14 and if they liked him that much and couldn't move back it's reasonable to grab him there. Sounds like the kid can jump and has big hands and good speed. Given the track record the team has drafting receivers over the years, I'll trust their judgement in a way that I wouldn't with most other positions.
I'm fine with Rivers in round 2, though it's tough seeing that the price to move up to NE's spot was fairly cheap. I certainly would've been happier getting Ellis there. I'm liking our RB corps a lot more going into next season.
-QG
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
You're nuts. The Eagles have played this draft masterfully:1. Jackson fills a huge need at WR/KR/PR2. The Booker trade was a steal3. They got what could likely be a top 10 pick from Carolina in '094. Trevor Laws will be a beast in that D-line rotation5. That Jamaal Brown/Lito trade that everyone is talking about would give the Eagles a NFL proven LT. If they don't trade Lito, they can extend his contract with the cash they saved from not having to sign a first round pick.You gotta look at the whole picture here....
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
Detroit Lions- D-
massraider
Footballguy
I like their draft, but there's a LOT of assumptions in that post.
cowboysin07
Footballguy
Dallas: D-
Although usually I am happy with the draft and the players suck. So maybe this year......
gianmarco
Footballguy
Only rivaling Houston and Tennessee for worst draft so far.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Chargers C+.
They weren't able to trade down as had been discussed. The OT run took that option off the board by the time of their pick. CB or Balmer seemed like the best pick imo based on need. Enough RB talent left to find Turner's replacement on day #2 though it would have been interesting if Mendenhall had slipped four more spots.
They weren't able to trade down as had been discussed. The OT run took that option off the board by the time of their pick. CB or Balmer seemed like the best pick imo based on need. Enough RB talent left to find Turner's replacement on day #2 though it would have been interesting if Mendenhall had slipped four more spots.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
1. Not a huge reach to say he'll be a huge help to the ST2. I like Booker. I think the trade was a steal.3. Carolina stinks. They're an old team with one weapon: Steve Smith4. I like Laws. 5. Yeah, I projected here, but neither situations are totally out of left field considering the Jamaal Brown rumors have been reported from many different places.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
nerangers
Footballguy
Patriots: B minus
The Mayo pick was fine, and the extra draft pick is fine, but the Wheatley pick was a stretch considering the players still on the board (S Reggie Smith, LB Dan Connor). With three picks in the third round, I think you could have gotten Wheatley tomorrow and have nabbed Smith or Connor today!
The Mayo pick was fine, and the extra draft pick is fine, but the Wheatley pick was a stretch considering the players still on the board (S Reggie Smith, LB Dan Connor). With three picks in the third round, I think you could have gotten Wheatley tomorrow and have nabbed Smith or Connor today!
massraider
Footballguy
1. No argument.2. I am glad you like Booker, but he's shown nothing.4. projecting Carolina to a top 10 pick is a big jump.4. I like Laws too, and think he fits in.5. Any Lito trade talk is a shot in the dark.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Dolphins: A
I'm as happy right now as I've been with a Dolphins' draft in a long while. My wife even commented a few minutes ago "wow, it's the end of day 1 of the draft and you're not pissed off this year....finally".
Jake Long was who I wanted at 1.01 all offseason if they were unable to trade down, and when 2.01 came up I was hoping for Merling or Henne....they got both.
I'm as happy right now as I've been with a Dolphins' draft in a long while. My wife even commented a few minutes ago "wow, it's the end of day 1 of the draft and you're not pissed off this year....finally".
Jake Long was who I wanted at 1.01 all offseason if they were unable to trade down, and when 2.01 came up I was hoping for Merling or Henne....they got both.
I don't care if the Eagles were handed all ten of the first round picks in next year draft, Reid would just trade them all away for multiple later round picks... so he can grab another batch of hopeful linemen.
Is it any wonder how the Eagles have gone from the Divisional leader to it's bottom feeder. And to actually see that there are fans and spectators out their who actually have the nerve to defend any of this is crazy. A team stays on top by getting top talent, not by getting cheaper talent and hope they turn into something.
In fact I think the only reason Reid did grab a WR this year is to prevent from being assassinated. Reid does not know how to draft... and a few lucky fliers do not count as a positive for his "skill".
Von
Is it any wonder how the Eagles have gone from the Divisional leader to it's bottom feeder. And to actually see that there are fans and spectators out their who actually have the nerve to defend any of this is crazy. A team stays on top by getting top talent, not by getting cheaper talent and hope they turn into something.
In fact I think the only reason Reid did grab a WR this year is to prevent from being assassinated. Reid does not know how to draft... and a few lucky fliers do not count as a positive for his "skill".
Von
IMO this team had the best first day - the Tuna smells like a rose instead of fish so far.I like the Mayo selection but Wheatley was a huge reach. I'm grading the Patriots in the C range.Patriots: B minusThe Mayo pick was fine, and the extra draft pick is fine, but the Wheatley pick was a stretch considering the players still on the board (S Reggie Smith, LB Dan Connor). With three picks in the third round, I think you could have gotten Wheatley tomorrow and have nabbed Smith or Connor today!
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
Cleveland Browns A+
massraider
Footballguy
Raiders: C-.
Getting Hall for a 2nd rounder keeps this from being a D.
Took DMC over Dorsey, who they couldn't take, cause they gave Tommy Kelly 50 mill.
Traded 3rd rounder for an OT last year that got no PT at all.
About to give 30 mill to a RB. meantime, the Giants won the big one with a 4th rounder, and a 6th rounder carrying the rock.
Sure hope DMC is a monster.
Getting Hall for a 2nd rounder keeps this from being a D.
Took DMC over Dorsey, who they couldn't take, cause they gave Tommy Kelly 50 mill.
Traded 3rd rounder for an OT last year that got no PT at all.
About to give 30 mill to a RB. meantime, the Giants won the big one with a 4th rounder, and a 6th rounder carrying the rock.
Sure hope DMC is a monster.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Also, with two firsts next year, they could possibly be warming up for a Run at Chad Johnson. Remember, he has to be traded after June 1st to prorate his cap hit to this year and next year. Ok, the Johnson part IS a huge jump.1. No argument.2. I am glad you like Booker, but he's shown nothing. For a 4th, you get a young RB with NFL experience. I like the upside.1. Not a huge reach to say he'll be a huge help to the ST
2. I like Booker. I think the trade was a steal.
3. Carolina stinks. They're an old team with one weapon: Steve Smith
4. I like Laws.
5. Yeah, I projected here, but neither situations are totally out of left field considering the Jamaal Brown rumors have been reported from many different places.
4. projecting Carolina to a top 10 pick is a big jump. They're just not that good
4. I like Laws too, and think he fits in.
5. Any Lito trade talk is a shot in the dark. Absolutely, but, worst case, they keep him. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.
chris1969
Footballguy
Agreed, I saw Phil Savage eating a giant hoagie sandwich during the draft, which looked pretty tasty!
Reaper
Footballguy
And I'll give the Jets a B+ with Gholston falling.And Trading up For Keller I'm alright with.
massraider
Footballguy
Don't know why I am arguing, I loved their draft. My buddy, Eagles fan, woulda been happy with Jackson in the 1st, and Laws in the 2nd, so to get them, and a 1st next year, is a power move.Also, with two firsts next year, they could possibly be warming up for a Run at Chad Johnson. Remember, he has to be traded after June 1st to prorate his cap hit to this year and next year. Ok, the Johnson part IS a huge jump.1. No argument.2. I am glad you like Booker, but he's shown nothing. For a 4th, you get a young RB with NFL experience. I like the upside.
2. I like Booker. I think the trade was a steal.
3. Carolina stinks. They're an old team with one weapon: Steve Smith
4. I like Laws.
5. Yeah, I projected here, but neither situations are totally out of left field considering the Jamaal Brown rumors have been reported from many different places.
4. projecting Carolina to a top 10 pick is a big jump. They're just not that good
4. I like Laws too, and think he fits in.
5. Any Lito trade talk is a shot in the dark. Absolutely, but, worst case, they keep him. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that.
Buffalo Bills: A
not sure how much better they realistically could have done without trading away a key player on the team or a future pick. they wound up landing the consensus best CB in the draft at pick #11 and wisely decided not to reach for a WR. McKelvin should start at one CB spot right away and will also challenge McGee for reps as the primary return man. Then, 0 WRs went in round 1 so they wound up with some nice options in round 2 and landed a WR with speed and size who should come in and start opposite Lee Evans right away. Hardy is going to be a great option for Edwards in the red zone.
When combined with Marshawn Lynch and Paul Posluszny last year, the Bills seem to be doing a great job of filling needs in the early rounds of the draft.
not sure how much better they realistically could have done without trading away a key player on the team or a future pick. they wound up landing the consensus best CB in the draft at pick #11 and wisely decided not to reach for a WR. McKelvin should start at one CB spot right away and will also challenge McGee for reps as the primary return man. Then, 0 WRs went in round 1 so they wound up with some nice options in round 2 and landed a WR with speed and size who should come in and start opposite Lee Evans right away. Hardy is going to be a great option for Edwards in the red zone.
When combined with Marshawn Lynch and Paul Posluszny last year, the Bills seem to be doing a great job of filling needs in the early rounds of the draft.
ExaltedOne
Footballguy
Redskins - B+
HUGE props for not only keeping their draft picks, but making a GREAT trade to improve those picks!
Devin Thomas was an absolute steal. Nobody would have been surprised to see them select him with #21, and he was talked about as high as #11 to the Bills.
Fred Davis was a surprise with Cooley in the fold, but they must have seen something in him. I would have liked them to take Calais Campbell or Quentin Groves here.
Malcolm Kelly. I wasn't suprised with this pick. I am pretty neutral on it overall. However, they needed to get some fresh faces in there. It wasn't long ago when he was mentioned as the top WR in the draft.
Jason Campbell is probaby elated right now.
HUGE props for not only keeping their draft picks, but making a GREAT trade to improve those picks!
Devin Thomas was an absolute steal. Nobody would have been surprised to see them select him with #21, and he was talked about as high as #11 to the Bills.
Fred Davis was a surprise with Cooley in the fold, but they must have seen something in him. I would have liked them to take Calais Campbell or Quentin Groves here.
Malcolm Kelly. I wasn't suprised with this pick. I am pretty neutral on it overall. However, they needed to get some fresh faces in there. It wasn't long ago when he was mentioned as the top WR in the draft.
Jason Campbell is probaby elated right now.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Vikings
Jared Allen
Tyrell Johnson
A+
Jared Allen
Tyrell Johnson
A+
yinzer
Footballguy
You got it wrong jake:A+Ive never been this happy after Day 1
Southside Stosh
Footballguy
Chicago Bears, B
With the needs Da Bears have on Offense, GM Jerry Angelo played it safe and picked two players who will improve the Offense immediately. I don't see Angelo gambling on questionable players this draft as he did in previous years.
With the needs Da Bears have on Offense, GM Jerry Angelo played it safe and picked two players who will improve the Offense immediately. I don't see Angelo gambling on questionable players this draft as he did in previous years.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I like their draft...but the Chiefs have easily had the best draft in my opinion.
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
Waa Waa Waa... Day 1
RD 1: Darren McFadden
RD 2: DeAngelo Hall
Not my first choice at #1, but I'll take it.
massraider
Footballguy
Nothing I said was incorrect.Tommy Kelly and DMC have to be studs, or this entire offseason was a joke.Waa Waa Waa... Day 1
RD 1: Darren McFadden
RD 2: DeAngelo Hall
Not my first choice at #1, but I'll take it.
Hawkeyeskin
Footballguy
Redskins - A+
Thomas and Kelly: #1 and #2 WR's
Davis - #1 TE
Gotta love it!!
Thomas and Kelly: #1 and #2 WR's
Davis - #1 TE
Gotta love it!!
jbalicki10
Footballguy
I agree. I would have liked them to have take either 2 Qbs that were available in the 2nd, but I have to remember:a) Orton is still young, and they are giving Grossman one last chance to make the team. If either fails, they WILL draft a QB next year.b) They NEEDED without a doubt an OT. They got the pick of the litter before a major run was made. If they didn't it would have been a blunder.c) Benson maybe gone for the season before it begins. The other A.P. is very serviceable as a RBC with the new RB. Wolfe is just too small and will probably be gone next season unless he breaks out.Solid B+ draft.
ffldrew
Footballguy
Broncos - B IMHO
Clady - Nice pick but has played against a lower level of competition which is a slight negative. Good size, seems very mobile - certainly looks like he should be better(and better fit) than a George Foster was for the Bronco OLine scheme/style.
Royal - Like the speed and the return game possibilities. Broncos really hurting in that phase of game - thank you Devin Hester for showing us the light. Tech not exactly a passing power but his workouts looked good - although Tech toughness/emphasis on special teams may have a chance to rub off which I like. I like the speed play vs Marshall to stretch and open the field. Clady and the Oline just need to give Cutler the time - he has the arm to deliver.
In the end, it is getting hard to trust Shannahans judgement on draft day - his early/high picks at OL (Foster) and WR(Nash, Leslie) have been poor and this B could become an F in a year. And if this happens he will be gone.
Clady - Nice pick but has played against a lower level of competition which is a slight negative. Good size, seems very mobile - certainly looks like he should be better(and better fit) than a George Foster was for the Bronco OLine scheme/style.
Royal - Like the speed and the return game possibilities. Broncos really hurting in that phase of game - thank you Devin Hester for showing us the light. Tech not exactly a passing power but his workouts looked good - although Tech toughness/emphasis on special teams may have a chance to rub off which I like. I like the speed play vs Marshall to stretch and open the field. Clady and the Oline just need to give Cutler the time - he has the arm to deliver.
In the end, it is getting hard to trust Shannahans judgement on draft day - his early/high picks at OL (Foster) and WR(Nash, Leslie) have been poor and this B could become an F in a year. And if this happens he will be gone.
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facook
Footballguy
49ers: C
The ultimate bleh draft. Interior linemen that no one cares about. Balmer could make LB Willis even more effective, which is a good thing, but it's certainly not a flashy pick. Did nothing to fix the worst offense in the league...by a lot. Apparently has-been and never-was WRs are all they need. It's painful to see Steve Young mourn over this franchise on national TV.
The ultimate bleh draft. Interior linemen that no one cares about. Balmer could make LB Willis even more effective, which is a good thing, but it's certainly not a flashy pick. Did nothing to fix the worst offense in the league...by a lot. Apparently has-been and never-was WRs are all they need. It's painful to see Steve Young mourn over this franchise on national TV.
The Chiefs are doing very well, too, but I think the Dolphins have done as well as the Chiefs with less making excellent picks at 1,32,57 to improve their team...it's pretty easy to draft a lot of top talent when you pick at 5,15,35 as KC has done today. In terms of which team has done a more masterful job with the picks they amassed, I'd say Miami out-did KC. But there is no doubt both organizations look smart after 2 rounds.I like their draft...but the Chiefs have easily had the best draft in my opinion.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
Yeah, I would almost add a + on that grade for the reason you mentioned. They have shown they will move up to get the guy they want, they have done it several times in recent drafts and when NO WRs were going off the board and there were loads of trades I assumed they would be looking to move and get the guy at the top of their list. They were wise to wait it out.
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