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Ravens to make "substantial" offer (1 Viewer)

NorrisB

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GLENDALE, Ariz. - It was only a matter of time before Donovan McNabb's name surfaced in some sort of trade rumor this off-season, and it has happened here at Super Bowl XLII.A report on ESPN yesterday said that the Baltimore Ravens, with new head coach John Harbaugh, are pondering making a substantial offer for the Eagles' veteran quarterback. After injuries limited Ravens starter Steve McNair to six games this season, it is only natural to wonder if Harbaugh, the Eagles' longtime assistant, would have interest in acquiring McNabb.The Eagles have gone on record as saying they expect McNabb to be back as their starting quarterback. Team president Joe Banner strongly stated late in the season that McNabb would return."I can't envision a situation in which [McNabb] is not our quarterback next year," Banner said. "We are talking about a quarterback who went to four straight [NFC] championship games. There are only four quarterbacks in the history of the league that have done that. You are talking about a quarterback who has had a higher winning percentage in his first seven years in the league than Peyton Manning. You are talking about a quarterback that has one of the highest quarterback ratings over the first seven seasons, one of the best TD-to-interceptions ratios of any quarterback in the history of this game in his first seven seasons in the league."My expectation, and I can't really even picture a different scenario, is that he'll be the quarterback."Since that time, a team source has said it would take an overwhelming offer to pry McNabb away from the Eagles. When the source was asked if a first-round pick would be enough, he said it would take more than that.If the Ravens were willing to give up a first-round pick for McNabb, it would give the Eagles the eighth and 19th overall selections in the 2008 draft.SourceIs this rumor just swirling around because he came from Philly or is this an actual possibility?
This would make Demetrius Williams, Greg Jenning imo.
 
GLENDALE, Ariz. - It was only a matter of time before Donovan McNabb's name surfaced in some sort of trade rumor this off-season, and it has happened here at Super Bowl XLII.

A report on ESPN yesterday said that the Baltimore Ravens, with new head coach John Harbaugh, are pondering making a substantial offer for the Eagles' veteran quarterback. After injuries limited Ravens starter Steve McNair to six games this season, it is only natural to wonder if Harbaugh, the Eagles' longtime assistant, would have interest in acquiring McNabb.

The Eagles have gone on record as saying they expect McNabb to be back as their starting quarterback. Team president Joe Banner strongly stated late in the season that McNabb would return.

"I can't envision a situation in which [McNabb] is not our quarterback next year," Banner said. "We are talking about a quarterback who went to four straight [NFC] championship games. There are only four quarterbacks in the history of the league that have done that. You are talking about a quarterback who has had a higher winning percentage in his first seven years in the league than Peyton Manning. You are talking about a quarterback that has one of the highest quarterback ratings over the first seven seasons, one of the best TD-to-interceptions ratios of any quarterback in the history of this game in his first seven seasons in the league.

"My expectation, and I can't really even picture a different scenario, is that he'll be the quarterback."

Since that time, a team source has said it would take an overwhelming offer to pry McNabb away from the Eagles. When the source was asked if a first-round pick would be enough, he said it would take more than that.

If the Ravens were willing to give up a first-round pick for McNabb, it would give the Eagles the eighth and 19th overall selections in the 2008 draft.

Source

Is this rumor just swirling around because he came from Philly or is this an actual possibility?
This would make Mark Clayton Greg Jenning imo.
Fixed.
 
Would be a smart move for the Ravens. The real question is whether or not the Eagles are ready to dump McNabb.

 
I don't see the Eagles doing it, but if they did get the 8th pick, makes you wonder if they REALLY think Kolb is the guy with Ryan and Brohm potentially available.
Why would they trade McNabb for a first round pick only to pick an unproven rookie?
Ditto. And why would the Ravens trade away a chance for their qb of the future for an aging vet with likely very little left in terms of productive years? Giving up a high first for an old-timer when the team is making a fresh start is counterproductive, imo.
 
I don't see the Eagles doing it, but if they did get the 8th pick, makes you wonder if they REALLY think Kolb is the guy with Ryan and Brohm potentially available.
Why would they trade McNabb for a first round pick only to pick an unproven rookie?
How is an unproven rookie different than Kolb?ETA: My point is that if the Eagles are essentially ready to blow it up by trading McNabb (which I don't see them doing), do they feel comfortable enough with Kevin Kolb is the long-term answer at QB to pass up two more highly rated prospects?After all QB is the most important position, and its not like they have a ton invested in Kolb, so it's not financially detrimental to the team. I don't think its impossible, despite it being very unlikely.
 
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I don't see the Eagles doing it, but if they did get the 8th pick, makes you wonder if they REALLY think Kolb is the guy with Ryan and Brohm potentially available.
Why would they trade McNabb for a first round pick only to pick an unproven rookie?
How is an unproven rookie different than Kolb?ETA: My point is that if the Eagles are essentially ready to blow it up by trading McNabb (which I don't see them doing), do they feel comfortable enough with Kevin Kolb is the long-term answer at QB to pass up two more highly rated prospects?After all QB is the most important position, and its not like they have a ton invested in Kolb, so it's not financially detrimental to the team. I don't think its impossible, despite it being very unlikely.
My point was that i dont think the Eagles are gonna trade McNabb. And even if they did i would guess that Feely would be starting initially. And to answer your question yes i do think the Eagles are comfortable with having Kolb as their long-term answer at QB. It would seem so since they traded out of the first round last year for him.
 
GLENDALE, Ariz. - It was only a matter of time before Donovan McNabb's name surfaced in some sort of trade rumor this off-season, and it has happened here at Super Bowl XLII.

A report on ESPN yesterday said that the Baltimore Ravens, with new head coach John Harbaugh, are pondering making a substantial offer for the Eagles' veteran quarterback. After injuries limited Ravens starter Steve McNair to six games this season, it is only natural to wonder if Harbaugh, the Eagles' longtime assistant, would have interest in acquiring McNabb.

The Eagles have gone on record as saying they expect McNabb to be back as their starting quarterback. Team president Joe Banner strongly stated late in the season that McNabb would return.

"I can't envision a situation in which [McNabb] is not our quarterback next year," Banner said. "We are talking about a quarterback who went to four straight [NFC] championship games. There are only four quarterbacks in the history of the league that have done that. You are talking about a quarterback who has had a higher winning percentage in his first seven years in the league than Peyton Manning. You are talking about a quarterback that has one of the highest quarterback ratings over the first seven seasons, one of the best TD-to-interceptions ratios of any quarterback in the history of this game in his first seven seasons in the league.

"My expectation, and I can't really even picture a different scenario, is that he'll be the quarterback."

Since that time, a team source has said it would take an overwhelming offer to pry McNabb away from the Eagles. When the source was asked if a first-round pick would be enough, he said it would take more than that.

If the Ravens were willing to give up a first-round pick for McNabb, it would give the Eagles the eighth and 19th overall selections in the 2008 draft.

Source

Is this rumor just swirling around because he came from Philly or is this an actual possibility?
This would make Mark Clayton Greg Jenning imo.
Fixed.
Mark Clayton kept himself from playing well last year, he had no excuses.
 
GLENDALE, Ariz. - It was only a matter of time before Donovan McNabb's name surfaced in some sort of trade rumor this off-season, and it has happened here at Super Bowl XLII.

A report on ESPN yesterday said that the Baltimore Ravens, with new head coach John Harbaugh, are pondering making a substantial offer for the Eagles' veteran quarterback. After injuries limited Ravens starter Steve McNair to six games this season, it is only natural to wonder if Harbaugh, the Eagles' longtime assistant, would have interest in acquiring McNabb.

The Eagles have gone on record as saying they expect McNabb to be back as their starting quarterback. Team president Joe Banner strongly stated late in the season that McNabb would return.

"I can't envision a situation in which [McNabb] is not our quarterback next year," Banner said. "We are talking about a quarterback who went to four straight [NFC] championship games. There are only four quarterbacks in the history of the league that have done that. You are talking about a quarterback who has had a higher winning percentage in his first seven years in the league than Peyton Manning. You are talking about a quarterback that has one of the highest quarterback ratings over the first seven seasons, one of the best TD-to-interceptions ratios of any quarterback in the history of this game in his first seven seasons in the league.

"My expectation, and I can't really even picture a different scenario, is that he'll be the quarterback."

Since that time, a team source has said it would take an overwhelming offer to pry McNabb away from the Eagles. When the source was asked if a first-round pick would be enough, he said it would take more than that.

If the Ravens were willing to give up a first-round pick for McNabb, it would give the Eagles the eighth and 19th overall selections in the 2008 draft.

Source

Is this rumor just swirling around because he came from Philly or is this an actual possibility?
This would make Mark Clayton Greg Jenning imo.
Fixed.
Mark Clayton kept himself from playing well last year, he had no excuses.
Playing through a high-ankle sprain down??
 
I think McNabb is a pretty darn good QB when healthy but therin lies the problem. I don't think trading a top 7 pick for an injury-prone qb is good idea unless your o-line is solid and I am pretty sure the Raven's isn't.

 
I don't see the Eagles doing it, but if they did get the 8th pick, makes you wonder if they REALLY think Kolb is the guy with Ryan and Brohm potentially available.
Why would they trade McNabb for a first round pick only to pick an unproven rookie?
How is an unproven rookie different than Kolb?ETA: My point is that if the Eagles are essentially ready to blow it up by trading McNabb (which I don't see them doing), do they feel comfortable enough with Kevin Kolb is the long-term answer at QB to pass up two more highly rated prospects?After all QB is the most important position, and its not like they have a ton invested in Kolb, so it's not financially detrimental to the team. I don't think its impossible, despite it being very unlikely.
I don't think there's a chance either team does this deal but....- There's a good chance Ryan is gone by 8.-I don't think the Eagles would do this deal unless they think Kolb has looked good in practice in his redshirt year. Kolb has had ayear with Reid's playbook an that's the way Andy like it. Reid barely started McNabb in his rookie year on a very bad team. He doesn't like to play rookie QBs period. There's no way the Eagles go into the season with Feeley and Brohm or another rookie.-The Eagles would likely go defense with both first-round picks if they pulled this off. Defensive end early then the best available defensive back at 19.- I agree that the Ravens should blow everything up, but maybe they're convinced this is Ray Lewis' last hurrah.
 
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JaxBill said:
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I don't see the Eagles doing it, but if they did get the 8th pick, makes you wonder if they REALLY think Kolb is the guy with Ryan and Brohm potentially available.
Why would they trade McNabb for a first round pick only to pick an unproven rookie?
How is an unproven rookie different than Kolb?ETA: My point is that if the Eagles are essentially ready to blow it up by trading McNabb (which I don't see them doing), do they feel comfortable enough with Kevin Kolb is the long-term answer at QB to pass up two more highly rated prospects?After all QB is the most important position, and its not like they have a ton invested in Kolb, so it's not financially detrimental to the team. I don't think its impossible, despite it being very unlikely.
I don't think there's a chance either team does this deal but....- There's a good chance Ryan is gone by 8.-I don't think the Eagles would do this deal unless they think Kolb has looked good in practice in his redshirt year. Kolb has had ayear with Reid's playbook an that's the way Andy like it. Reid barely started McNabb in his rookie year on a very bad team. He doesn't like to play rookie QBs period. There's no way the Eagles go into the season with Feeley and Brohm or another rookie.-The Eagles would likely go defense with both first-round picks if they pulled this off. Defensive end early then the best available defensive back at 19.- I agree that the Ravens should blow everything up, but maybe they're convinced this is Ray Lewis' last hurrah.
That's my thinking. If the Ravens are looking for McNabb, they are taking a shot for the Superbowl with their aging vets. Otherwise they might as well put guys like Ogden and Lewis on the block and really blow it up.
 
I keep hearing Kolb's name as the starter in this thread. There's zero chance he starts the year at QB, Feeley would.

The guy I know in the Eagle's FO said that this story is real though, but he couldn't go into specifics as to what was offered.

 
EBF said:
NorrisB said:
GLENDALE, Ariz. - It was only a matter of time before Donovan McNabb's name surfaced in some sort of trade rumor this off-season, and it has happened here at Super Bowl XLII.

A report on ESPN yesterday said that the Baltimore Ravens, with new head coach John Harbaugh, are pondering making a substantial offer for the Eagles' veteran quarterback. After injuries limited Ravens starter Steve McNair to six games this season, it is only natural to wonder if Harbaugh, the Eagles' longtime assistant, would have interest in acquiring McNabb.

The Eagles have gone on record as saying they expect McNabb to be back as their starting quarterback. Team president Joe Banner strongly stated late in the season that McNabb would return.

"I can't envision a situation in which [McNabb] is not our quarterback next year," Banner said. "We are talking about a quarterback who went to four straight [NFC] championship games. There are only four quarterbacks in the history of the league that have done that. You are talking about a quarterback who has had a higher winning percentage in his first seven years in the league than Peyton Manning. You are talking about a quarterback that has one of the highest quarterback ratings over the first seven seasons, one of the best TD-to-interceptions ratios of any quarterback in the history of this game in his first seven seasons in the league.

"My expectation, and I can't really even picture a different scenario, is that he'll be the quarterback."

Since that time, a team source has said it would take an overwhelming offer to pry McNabb away from the Eagles. When the source was asked if a first-round pick would be enough, he said it would take more than that.

If the Ravens were willing to give up a first-round pick for McNabb, it would give the Eagles the eighth and 19th overall selections in the 2008 draft.

Source

Is this rumor just swirling around because he came from Philly or is this an actual possibility?
This would make Mark Clayton Greg Jenning imo.
Fixed.
Why is that? Favre has made a career out of taking average to good receivers and making them great. McNabb has never had a receiver do much of anything besides Owens. Curtis has a few monster games last year but that was more a product of who they played than McNabb. In addition to that, Jennings led the nation in receiving the year he came out in the draft. He is a much more polished receiver than Clayton.
 
EBF said:
NorrisB said:
GLENDALE, Ariz. - It was only a matter of time before Donovan McNabb's name surfaced in some sort of trade rumor this off-season, and it has happened here at Super Bowl XLII.

A report on ESPN yesterday said that the Baltimore Ravens, with new head coach John Harbaugh, are pondering making a substantial offer for the Eagles' veteran quarterback. After injuries limited Ravens starter Steve McNair to six games this season, it is only natural to wonder if Harbaugh, the Eagles' longtime assistant, would have interest in acquiring McNabb.

The Eagles have gone on record as saying they expect McNabb to be back as their starting quarterback. Team president Joe Banner strongly stated late in the season that McNabb would return.

"I can't envision a situation in which [McNabb] is not our quarterback next year," Banner said. "We are talking about a quarterback who went to four straight [NFC] championship games. There are only four quarterbacks in the history of the league that have done that. You are talking about a quarterback who has had a higher winning percentage in his first seven years in the league than Peyton Manning. You are talking about a quarterback that has one of the highest quarterback ratings over the first seven seasons, one of the best TD-to-interceptions ratios of any quarterback in the history of this game in his first seven seasons in the league.

"My expectation, and I can't really even picture a different scenario, is that he'll be the quarterback."

Since that time, a team source has said it would take an overwhelming offer to pry McNabb away from the Eagles. When the source was asked if a first-round pick would be enough, he said it would take more than that.

If the Ravens were willing to give up a first-round pick for McNabb, it would give the Eagles the eighth and 19th overall selections in the 2008 draft.

Source

Is this rumor just swirling around because he came from Philly or is this an actual possibility?
This would make Mark Clayton Greg Jenning imo.
Fixed.
Why is that? Favre has made a career out of taking average to good receivers and making them great. McNabb has never had a receiver do much of anything besides Owens. Curtis has a few monster games last year but that was more a product of who they played than McNabb. In addition to that, Jennings led the nation in receiving the year he came out in the draft. He is a much more polished receiver than Clayton.
I believe his point was that it would be Clayton that would benefit, not Demetrius Williams.
 
I think theyd both benefit personally. Demetrius is alot cheaper then Clayton and would likely put up similar #s. Clayton is more the Reggie Brown and Demetrius is more your Donte Stallworth/Kevin Curtis speed guy.

 
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I think theyd both benefit personally. Demetrius is alot cheaper then Clayton and would likely put up similar #s. Clayton is more the Reggie Brown and Demetrius is more your Donte Stallworth/Kevin Curtis speed guy.
Williams won't take the next step until he can catch the ball. He caught 42% of his targets this year and for his 2 year career he's caught 45% of his targets. He may be worth a flyer but I don't really see him doing much especially the Mason stays on for another year.
 

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