RB Kenneth Walker III - SEA (3 Viewers)

[LawFitz]

Why Seahawks’ RB job share with Walker, Charbonnet? More than meets the eye

Thank you. That sums and clears this up plenty. This is a full blown RBBC timeshare.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I wish we could somehow merge this and the Charbonnet thread. The exact same conversations are happening in both.

 

[menobrown]

I don’t feel clearer about anything either. However Charbonnet is mysteriously missing from the passing game as he is a good receiver out of the backfield and walker seems to gobble up all of the receptions. Overall I think walker has better usage going forward but it’s kind of like Atlanta in which charbs may snipe some tds

This is where I've landed- if one of the backs becomes a clear starter they're immediately vaulted to the RB1 status in this offense, but at the moment for your line-up decisions you have to follow the production. KW is a risky buy because who know what's gonna happen week 3, but if I leaned one direction it would be towards him being the season-long play.

Wish I had any piece of either, even if just for the lottery potential if the roles clarify or there is injury.

Same, except if both are healthy I don’t have a lean despite thinking Walker is the superior player.

It’s one of the more perplexing situations right now.

Charbs plays more and in more high value situations. More short yardage and passing situations.

Walker is more explosive and despite running less routes has been catching more passes.

Charbs outplayed him week one. Walker dusted Charbs in week 2.

The only constant has been Charbs playing more. I’m hoping week 2 changed that, but I can’t say for sure it did.

It’s possible they view the best way to maximize Walker and keep him healthy is the kind of usage we’ve seen the first 2 weeks.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

I don’t feel clearer about anything either. However Charbonnet is mysteriously missing from the passing game as he is a good receiver out of the backfield and walker seems to gobble up all of the receptions. Overall I think walker has better usage going forward but it’s kind of like Atlanta in which charbs may snipe some tds

This is where I've landed- if one of the backs becomes a clear starter they're immediately vaulted to the RB1 status in this offense, but at the moment for your line-up decisions you have to follow the production. KW is a risky buy because who know what's gonna happen week 3, but if I leaned one direction it would be towards him being the season-long play.

Wish I had any piece of either, even if just for the lottery potential if the roles clarify or there is injury.

Same, except if both are healthy I don’t have a lean despite thinking Walker is the superior player.

It’s one of the more perplexing situations right now.

Charbs plays more and in more high value situations. More short yardage and passing situations.

Walker is more explosive and despite running less routes has been catching more passes.

Charbs outplayed him week one. Walker dusted Charbs in week 2.

The only constant has been Charbs playing more. I’m hoping week 2 changed that, but I can’t say for sure it did.

It’s possible they view the best way to maximize Walker and keep him healthy is the kind of usage we’ve seen the first 2 weeks.

I agree, I see mentions of wanting Walker to be a bellcow but I don't think he'd hold up and I tend to doubt their coaching staff thinks so either. Best case, he continues to get 15 or so touches each week and produces on them, he's never gonna be a 25+ touch back. Charbs is a little banged up apparently so this week might be a good Walker week hopefully.

 

[Payne]

Why Seahawks’ RB job share with Walker, Charbonnet? More than meets the eye

Not ideal for either of them. That being said, Walker doesn't need a huge workload to be a top 20 RB.
He was drafted by most as an RB2 and he is producing as such with the upside to be an RB1 like he was in week 2.

 

[LawFitz]

He was drafted by most as an RB2 and he is producing as such with the upside to be an RB1 like he was in week 2.

And the downside to be an RB0 like he was in week 1.

 

[LawFitz]

@Payne, I like KWIII's talent more than Charb's as well. But I've been on this coaster for 2.5 years now and it's anything but stable.

 

[bolzano]

Looks like he’s gonna have the backfield all to himself this week. Juicy matchup too. Let’s see if he can put some distance between him and Charbs.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Looks like he’s gonna have the backfield all to himself this week. Juicy matchup too. Let’s see if he can put some distance between him and Charbs.

Where are you seeing that he has the backfield all to himself ?

 

[bolzano]

Looks like he’s gonna have the backfield all to himself this week. Juicy matchup too. Let’s see if he can put some distance between him and Charbs.

Where are you seeing that he has the backfield all to himself ?

Charbonnet is injured and likely won’t play. I mean, I suppose the Seahawks could fill that gap with their third stringer. But, I doubt it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

1 in a row! Interesting to watch some of the victory laps being done and some rewriting of history over the past 2+ years by the usual suspects, but I’ll concede without any reservation that Walker was the better back by far yesterday.

I’m wondering if we aren’t headed to a hot hand approach moving forward.

Go back to last year. Charbonnet had a couple of great games. Did they stick with him when Walker came back? No.
Walker was right back in the starting lineup.

Go back to game 1. Charbonnet was playing better. No doubt.
Yet the coaching staff started Walked in the 2nd half and he was the back on the field when the game was on the line.

I don't know what else you need. It is and always has been Walker when he is healthy.
And who is rewriting history?

You know that SEA has a new OC this year who has a pretty good track record of productive running games, right? Why would what previous OCs have done dictate what Kubiak will do? I’m guessing he’s more concerned with production rather than who runs faster.

Who was more productive:
Player A had 105 yards and a TD on 13 carries and 1 reception for 13 yards.
Player B had 10 yards on 15 carries and no targets

well that’s a mighty convincing argument. say stranger, how big is that sample size?

1 game, you say?

Huh

 

[Payne]

1 in a row! Interesting to watch some of the victory laps being done and some rewriting of history over the past 2+ years by the usual suspects, but I’ll concede without any reservation that Walker was the better back by far yesterday.

I’m wondering if we aren’t headed to a hot hand approach moving forward.

Go back to last year. Charbonnet had a couple of great games. Did they stick with him when Walker came back? No.
Walker was right back in the starting lineup.

Go back to game 1. Charbonnet was playing better. No doubt.
Yet the coaching staff started Walked in the 2nd half and he was the back on the field when the game was on the line.

I don't know what else you need. It is and always has been Walker when he is healthy.
And who is rewriting history?

You know that SEA has a new OC this year who has a pretty good track record of productive running games, right? Why would what previous OCs have done dictate what Kubiak will do? I’m guessing he’s more concerned with production rather than who runs faster.

Who was more productive:
Player A had 105 yards and a TD on 13 carries and 1 reception for 13 yards.
Player B had 10 yards on 15 carries and no targets

well that’s a mighty convincing argument. say stranger, how big is that sample size?

1 game, you say?

Huh

Two years. You know better Hot Sauce.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

1 in a row! Interesting to watch some of the victory laps being done and some rewriting of history over the past 2+ years by the usual suspects, but I’ll concede without any reservation that Walker was the better back by far yesterday.

I’m wondering if we aren’t headed to a hot hand approach moving forward.

Go back to last year. Charbonnet had a couple of great games. Did they stick with him when Walker came back? No.
Walker was right back in the starting lineup.

Go back to game 1. Charbonnet was playing better. No doubt.
Yet the coaching staff started Walked in the 2nd half and he was the back on the field when the game was on the line.

I don't know what else you need. It is and always has been Walker when he is healthy.
And who is rewriting history?

You know that SEA has a new OC this year who has a pretty good track record of productive running games, right? Why would what previous OCs have done dictate what Kubiak will do? I’m guessing he’s more concerned with production rather than who runs faster.

Who was more productive:
Player A had 105 yards and a TD on 13 carries and 1 reception for 13 yards.
Player B had 10 yards on 15 carries and no targets

well that’s a mighty convincing argument. say stranger, how big is that sample size?

1 game, you say?

Huh

Two years. You know better Hot Sauce.

Of course, I’m just stirring the pot. Can’t risk this topic dying.