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RB Match Ups to exploit/avoid week 3 (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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As we move into week 3 it would seem that many teams are starting to build an appearance. For some teams absolutely but others, let's just say the jury is still out. There are a lot of games this week feturing 2-0 vs 0-2 teams. So based on the 1st two weeks the undefeated teams should beat the winless teams, right? Not so fast. Don't assume you know the outcome of all the games based on what you saw the 1st two weeks because the NFL can become very humbling at times. I look for shift back to the middle this week and a lot of undefeateds to fall as well as winless teams to get out of that funk this weekend.

Tennessee at New York Jets (-2.5) (37)

The Jets have been impressive the first 2 weeks of the season and you have to give Rex Ryan some props for a grand opening. Do I think the Jets are a playoff team? I’m not sold on them being a playoff contender just yet but I like what I see and even as a Dolphin fan I can appreciate the lift the fans of New York are experiencing right now.

The Titans are a strange bunch. Looked offensively inept against Pittsburgh and then turned on the Jets last week in a disheartening loss to the Houston Texans. I believe they will bust thru this week and hand New York their 1st loss of the season. This will stop the bleeding for the Titans temporarily.

Chris Johnson: What can you say for a guy that put up 55 last week? What can he do for an encore? How bout 100 yds and a score cause the Titans are going to need him. Loved the receptions last week but don’t count on that production to continue. 9 receptions is pretty rare even for a lot of WRs.

LenDale White: A non factor pretty much right now. He looks better than ever but he isn’t making any big plays and there haven’t been a lot of goal line plunges for him this season yet.

Thomas Jones: Rough sledding this week. The Titans are only giving up about 50 yds a game on the ground and a ridiculous 1.9 ypc. Certainly the Jets OL will do better but they were pretty quiet against the Pats last week despite the victory.

Leon Washington: I might like him better than Jones this week simply for the dump off passes that could happen this week. I’ll say he finishes Sunday with a better game than TJ however I don’t think either of them are strong plays this week.

Final Score: Tennessee 23…NY Jets 14

Jacksonville at Houston (-4) (46.5)

The Jags are really struggling right now and were down 31-3 last week before they started moving the ball. That will change this week. Houston is giving up 6.3 ypc which is exacerbated by Chris Johnson and his long Touchdowns and gains last week. But I believe the Jags need to get their ground game moving. The passing game struggles when the game is actually in question so I believe they will try and set the pace with the running game.

Houston was down 21-7 to Tennessee last week before they woke up and Schaub started firing missiles all over the place…can he sustain it? I want Houston to become a playoff team but they have a lot of problems defensively and I believe the Jags with a good week of practice will come in and run it right at them . Jax is only giving up 3.2 ypc so Houston will have to throw it to win again…Warner saw that as a great idea last week and was almost perfect .

Maurice Jones-Drew: Should explode this week. Houston allows a lot of points and if MJD is ever going to have a huge game this is it. No one would ever bench him anyways but again he is a top10, likely top5 play potential this week.

Steve Slaton: I mentioned he was going to struggle preseason and no one wanted to hear it. Alright, no one likes an “I told you so”, I’ll stop. Slaton owners should get a better game this week….maybe.

Final Score: Jacksonville 24…Houston 20

Kansas City @ Philly (-9.5) (42)

I believe KC has a chance to win this game, mainly because of the injuries piling up over in Philly. The Eagles are not exactly en fuego against the run this season allowing almost 110 yds and 1.5 TD per game allowed on the ground. The Chiefs are avg right around 100 yds and about 3.7 ypc, certainly not great but there is a lot worse right now around the league.

Larry Johnson: Why not? He was running well last week and this week perhaps he is due for a TD run. The Eagles have a lot of injuries just about everywhere it seems and I think right now the moral is pretty low over there. I’m not sure Vick isn’t a distraction for the team right now.

Brian Westbrook: Has an ankle sprain and might not play. Need to watch the weekly IR for availability. I do not like what I have seen from McCoy so I would scratch that plan.

Final Score: Kansas City 17…Philly 16

Cleveland at Baltimore (-13.5) (39)

This is a game I wouldn’t put much thought into. The Browns cannot stop the run and are allowing over 205 yds a game, 5 TD in 2 games, and a 5.6 ypc avg. Raven RB owners are licking their chops. I look for Baltimore to just destroy Cleveland in this game. People are down on the Ravens’ defense, seriously? They are allowing 41 yds rushing per game, ZERO Tds, and a paltry 2.2 ypc. Cleveland has no chance in this game.

Jamal Lewis: Bad week for him and the Browns in general.

Ray Rice: Start him if you got him.

Willis McGahee: Do you start him? He can’t keep up a 2 TD per week average. This should be a blowout so I expect him to see him action.

Final Score: Baltimore 34…Cleveland 7

New York Giants at Tampa Bay (+7) (44)

The Giants rained on the Dallas parade last week and got the 1st victory over their division foes. They will always have that over on the Cowboys, maybe they should rename it Giants Stadium and Jerry can sell tickets in New York and increase attendance to over 250,000 with a special fun pass for $20 and the fans in New York can watch the game at home on their flat panels.

I actually think New York is in for the let down game this week. It’s a 1:00 game in September in Tampa, I was there 2 weeks ago and it was miserable for that Cowboys game. I expect it to be awful hot and humid come Sunday. The Giants are giving up 168 yds and 2 TD on the ground per week so far. The Bucs can run it and have posted an avg of 115/TD/4.6 ypc so far. Now the Bucs are no better at stopping the run than the Giants really but New York is struggling to run the ball right now with a 3.5 ypc avg. I smell upset brewing down in Florida.

Brandon Jacobs: Needs to get on track, can this be the week? The Bucs allowed Dallas to run pretty well and they also watched Fred Jackson run all over them last week. Logic would say this is a good spot for Jacobs.

Ahmad Bradshaw: Very dangerous start right now with him. Not being asked to do a whole lot, I think you gotta leave him on your bench for right now.

Cadillac: Getting plenty of touches and I expect that trend to continue on Sunday with Caddy likely to get a combined carry and catch total of about 18-20+.

Derrick Ward: I expect him to want the ball against his former team. Has not been a huge part of the offense to this point. I do believe the Bucs will be in this game to the end so look for Ward to be active this week.

Final Score: Tampa Bay 24…NY Giants 21

Washington at Detroit (+6.5) (38)

The sexy upset pick this week is Detroit. I’m not buying into it just yet. The Skins lost their RG Thomas for the season and that is going to hurt Portis and the entire run game. The Lions may not be the worst rushing defense but they aren’t far off the pace with a 4.5 ypc yield and 134 yards a game. I still think Washington takes care of business.

Clinton Portis: Had a mild injury last week IIRC, but is expected to play this week. Hard to tell how good he will do, should have had a big game last week and he massively disappointed owners last week. I wouldn’t bench him but when is the last time he had a really potent game?

Kevin Smith: Will get his usual 18-22 touches. Some weeks are better than others but he seems like a solid RB2 ranking in at #15 overall at RB in PPR leagues this week.

Final Score: Washington 22…Detroit 14

Green Bay at St Louis (+6.5) (41)

The Pack haven’t shown us a lot of what we fell in love with during the preseason and parts of last year. The good news is they can feast on the Rams this week. There are a lot of potential upsets this week but I don’t think this is one of them. While the Rams have been alright running the football, I don’t think they can stop what the Packers are going to unleash on them this week.

Ryan Grant : Another solid RB2 ranking in at #18 on the season and I think he will go much higher if the pack can get some basic things ironed out. You gotta like him vs the Rams this week who are allowing 146 yds a game on the ground.

Steven Jackson: The Rams are actually running it at a 5.2 ypc avg but GB despite 118 allowed per game only yield 3.6 ypc. I think they get up on St Louis early and that will take Jackson out of some of this game. Maybe he will be OK with some much needed receptions. SJax is a borderline RB2 at the moment, but at home he has a slight advantage.

Final Score: Green Bay 27…St Louis 13

San Fran at Minnesota (-7) (40)

The San Francisco Christians are putting their 2-0 record on the line as they travel to Minnesota this week in a game where we can better find out who these teams really are. I don’t know if it’s the cross that Singletary wears openly in front during the games, not sure if it’s Frank Gore, not sure if we overlooked the defense in SF but the Niners are pounding on teams right now.

The Vikes are giving up a little more than normal with 109 ypg and a 4.0 ypc yield as well. The Niners are gaining about 138 per week on the ground and Gore topped 200 last week. A 5.1 ypc avg to boot too. Most of my advisers are picking the Vikes in at an alarming rate. I think this is a game we’ll look back on later in the season and draw some comparisons and conclusions form. I don’t believe the Niners will be embarrassed in this game.

Frank Gore: Was injured in the game last week but he claims he is playing this week no matter what. #2 overall RB in some leagues, there really is no sense in benching him unless the injury becomes a bigger issue as the game gets closer.

Adrian Peterson: I wouldn’t care if he played the ’75 Steel Curtain, The ’85 Bears, or the ’00 Ravens, the guy is just money. Course you didn’t me to tell you that.

Final Score: Minnesota 20…San Fran 15

Atlanta at New England (-4) (45)

I know a lot of people are going to feel that Atlanta is a slam dunk this week but I really caution those taking the Falcons and the points. I’m not saying they won’t just yet but I am a little less optimistic that Atlanta will make it happen this week. They suffered I believe a major blow with their 1st round DT Peris Jerry gone for the season. That is not good for their run defense but then again New England cannot run the ball.

Michael Turner: The new plan is to run him into the ground by week 5.

All NE RBs: Bench…I seem to remember last week talking about Fred Taylor having a few 40 yd zero TD performances and he delivered last week. I thought Maroney might be on to something as he opened the game as the starter last week and looked pretty alright but then they went away form that pretty quickly.

Final Score: New England 24…Atlanta 21

Chicago at Seattle (+2) (37)

Chicago goes from the worst feeling of loss in week1 to knocking off the defending SB Champs the next week. Their reward for this is traveling cross country to the Nest. Normally this would be a game Seattle would likely be favored in but Hass might not play and Seattle went from winning 28-0 week 1 to about where Chicago was left lying around in week 1. Bears have a lot of momentum and I look for that to carry over this week as they travel on the road.

Matt Forte: The Seahawks thanks a lot to Frank Gore are giving up 165+ yds a week and a TD while alos allowing over 7 yds a clip. If the Bears are smart they will try to pound the rock in this game. I look for Forte to break out against the Seahawks. Should be a big week.

Julius Jones: Followed up a great week 1 with a lousy week 2 , what a surprise. The Seahawks running game will not be enough to get it done this week and there is nothing to cling to in this offense at RB right now. Sure Jones can have some decent spot starts here and there but when those will happen is a bit unpredictable. I would sit any Seahawk RBs this weekend.

Final Score: Chicago 24…Seattle 14

New Orleans at Buffalo (+6) (52)

The Saints are scoring over 40 points a week and are suddenly going to the Super Bowl…wow. I believe this week they will have a big let down in Buffalo, and that coupled with a very feisty and dangerous Bills team could spell big trouble. Mike Bell is out for a possible month with the same injury Pierre Thomas has been nursing, MCL sprain. There is talk about Hamilton now making a start this weekend. It’s too bad when your RB2 and RB3 are on the shelf that you can’t turn to the RB1, Mr. Bush.

It’s interesting as both teams have been shutting down the run pretty well. The Saints offense is making other teams abandon the run so it’s hard to tell how good they really are but to this point…59 yds a game and a 2.9 ypc. Meanwhile the Bills are only giving up 3.1 ypc and 65 yds a game rushing. I believe NO will finally fall short of 40 this weekend.

Mike Bell: Injured, likely out this week

Reggie Bush: Healthy but until the end of the game last week was a non factor in the running game.

Pierre Thomas: Not being talked about that he is ready to carry the load.

Hamilton: Scrub the WW, you might find him.

Fred Jackson: One more week till Lynch returns. Freddie has done an admiral job of holding down the fort while he was away. I like him to do well again this week.

Final Score: Buffalo 27…New Orleans 24

Miami at San Diego (-6) (44)

So Miami controls the clock 45 minutes last week and loses the game. As a Dolphin fan I was crushed, but from a run stand point it was very positive for Miami. I know they are coming off a MNF loss, taking to the road as doge and marching into the lion’s den sort of speak. I believe their momentum form the OL will carry over to a San Diego team that has sustained a few injuries the 1st couple weeks of the season.

The Chargers are allowing 139 yds and 1.5 TD on the ground each week. Compare that to Miami who is allowing 64 and a 3.4 ypc right now. Also San Diego is only avg 65 yds per game on the ground, no wonder Phillip Rivers is throwing it for 450 yds. The Phins are now avg 167 on the ground and 4.7 ypc, the Wildcat is in full force right now.

Ronnie Brown: Won’t be as good as Monday night but he showed why so many are high on him this year. Start him with confidence.

Darren Sproles: Likely to get the start again. Showing himself as really a COP back. He was not moving the ball on theg round last week. OL injuries aside he is not moving the pile.

Final Score: Miami 20…San Diego 17

Pittsburgh at Cincinnati (+4) (37)

Hear me out on this one. The Steelers cannot run the ball very well at all. They were not really in control even with Urlacher out for the Bears. The Bengals are only giving up about 80 on the ground per game but I am sure the Steelers will try and test that defense out early and often. The Steelers are avg 3.1 ypc. This game will be decided between Big Ben and Carson Palmer and which one can find success thru the air.

Willie Parker: Waste of space right now…50th on the year to date. It can’t get any worse can it?

Cedric Benson: Will get a lot of touches and not a lot of yds in this one.

Final Score: Cincinnati 27…Pittsburgh 24, but I believe there will be a lot of passing in this one.

Denver at Oakland (+1) (36)

I have almost zero interest in this game so I am going to let the Shark Pool have at it. I’ll weigh in closer to Sunday.

Indy at Arizona (-2.5) (48)

How are the Colts getting points after they have pulled off two nail biters the last 2 weeks? They could have lost both games easily and to some that is why they are not favored but I actually look at it as they stole a couple games and maybe this week their defense shows up. On the other hand it was a short week and now they travel on the road again, might be mighty tough to win this one. The Colts allow a ridiculous 176 yds per game. The Cardinals however will not be able to exploit that because they are el stinko at running the ball themselves. Arizona is one of the best in run defense at the moment but again the Colts can’t run the ball all that well right now with a 3.1 ypc avg.

Joseph Addai: Disappeared on Monday Night. I do expect Indy to try and get their running game going so they can rest up that defense will still might be exhausted form last week. Right now Addai is an RB3 which he was drafted as for some teams so all is OK but Donald Brown is nippin at his heals and he is only about 5 spots below Addai on the season. JA needs to come out and establish himself as the RB1.

Donald Brown: Not a starter yet but had a real nice run against Miami last week where he ran over Gabril Wilson.

Tim Hightower: The more productive back right now over Chris Wells(51st) and it’s not even close. He could have a great day against Indy if Arizona was more proficient at the run.

Final Score: Arizona 22…Indy 21

Carolina at Dallas (-9) (47)

Carolina is giving up 168 yds a game on the ground, a TD, and almost 5 ypc. Dallas is leading the NFl with 184 yds rushing per game and a 7 ypc avg, that’s not a misprint, and that’s not some Wildcat gadget trickery making all those numbers. What else is there to talk about? Dallas should run these guys over…somehow though they find ways to not live up to expectations.

The Panthers have a favorable match up against Dallas in the running game too however Dallas did shut down New York last week although I think DWill poses a stronger threat to them.

DWill: Top10 right now, owners have to like that. Sure, we need a 40 point performance form him at some point and we will see it but probably not this week. DWill is avg under 4 yds per carry but I look for that to start changing quickly. He still is a top10 candidate this week.

Jonathan Stewart: Very shaky start for any team right now.

MB III: Let’s assume he is out.

Felix Jones: I like him but I also think Choice will see significant time if MB III can’t go. Jones is not a 20-25 carry type back but he can be very explosive in limited touches.

Tashard Choice: Could see a lot more touches if MB III is out.

Final Score: Dallas 30…Carolina 20

Good Luck this weekend everyone.

 
Given Chris Johnson's performance against Pittsburgh, why are you looking for 100 yards and a TD against the Jets? Don't get me wrong--I'd love to see it, but I'm considering benching him for a better matchup this week.

 
Think if you have McGahee, you have to be loving the matchup with the Browns. He's getting the goal-line work and that D should be getting them some short fields against Quinn and that anemic offense.

 
Given Chris Johnson's performance against Pittsburgh, why are you looking for 100 yards and a TD against the Jets? Don't get me wrong--I'd love to see it, but I'm considering benching him for a better matchup this week.
The Jets are good Rover but they are pretty young and I feel there will be desperation football from Tennessee. Also they have figured out how to get him the ball thru the air and into space, that's huge.
 
Denver at Oakland (+1) (36)

I have almost zero interest in this game so I am going to let the Shark Pool have at it. I’ll weigh in closer to Sunday.
:lmao:
I'll look at it later this week. What's your take on the game Shred?
It's gonna be about as exciting as the KC/Oak game last week. Bench all players from both teams. This includes QB's, WR's, TE's, and Kickers too. If anyone plays in a league with punters, then maybe consider starting someone from this game. I am benching McFadden on my own team.
 
Seems like Miami gives up a lot to TEs and Gates may be able to free up the flats for Sproles to make some nice plays like Norwood and Garcon did. But I guess that might be discussed in a passing thread.

 
Seems like Miami gives up a lot to TEs and Gates may be able to free up the flats for Sproles to make some nice plays like Norwood and Garcon did. But I guess that might be discussed in a passing thread.

 
Tell me a little more about Felix and Reggie this week MOP, I'm conducting a poll for my Mensa group. :lmao:
Queen's English please
Felix Jones/Reggie Bush
Are we asking who will have a better game? If Jones starts, I think he could be lethal on MNF. I think NO is going ot have problems on the road in that rotted out excuse of a stadium in Orchard Park. The Saints are good but they are far from unbeatable.
 
Given Chris Johnson's performance against Pittsburgh, why are you looking for 100 yards and a TD against the Jets? Don't get me wrong--I'd love to see it, but I'm considering benching him for a better matchup this week.
The Jets are good Rover but they are pretty young and I feel there will be desperation football from Tennessee. Also they have figured out how to get him the ball thru the air and into space, that's huge.
Chris Johnson's 100 yard rushing games so far:2008:@Cin@KC@DetCle2009:HouOther than last week's game, he's had one game with over 35 yards receiving, which was also the only other time he's caught more than 4 balls in a game.Until we have a larger sample size than last week against a bad defense, I'm not convinced that he's going to be putting up big yardage against solid defenses. He's not really getting a different number of carries from last season, and it's tough to believe that 9 receptions is going to be closer to the norm than the 1 reception week 1.Johnson is a beast against bad defenses, but he has yet to show that he can do it against the better D's in the NFL.
 
Oakland Denver game as the stats show....

Oak: DMC 14.5 Carries/game 3.6avg, 2 rec/game 11.3avg, Bush 10.5 Carries/game 4.3avg, 1 rec/game 10.5avg

Den: Moreno 12.5 Carries/game 3.8avg, 1 rec/game 11avg, Buckhalter8.5 Carries/game 7.2avg(45 yard td run makes his y/c look good) 1.5 rec/game 13.7avg

Denver defense has allowed 2.9 yards per carry, 70 yards a game (@ Cin, VS Cle)

Oakland defense has allowed 4.1 yards per carry, 125 yards a game (VS SD, @ KC)

Hard to expect much from Oakland RB's as Denver looks to have shored up their defense this year. Moreno looks like he could have a decent game if he could get 15 carries and 2-3 catches. I think you have to hope for a TD from any RB going in this game though...

Thank you ministry of pain, as always a really good job.

 
Can't disagree with what you are posting Rover but I do believe TN wins this week so I also believe CJ will show up and do well.
Again, I'd love for you to be right--Johnson and Schaub carried me last week...but there are some matchups out there that would make me think twice before automatically starting him...Grant @ StL, Rice or McGahee against the Browns, Portis at Detroit, even Hightower against Indy. For teams that drafted good depth at RB, there may be better options for high reward given the realistic expectations for Johnson this week.
 
Oakland Denver game as the stats show....

Oak: DMC 14.5 Carries/game 3.6avg, 2 rec/game 11.3avg, Bush 10.5 Carries/game 4.3avg, 1 rec/game 10.5avg

Den: Moreno 12.5 Carries/game 3.8avg, 1 rec/game 11avg, Buckhalter8.5 Carries/game 7.2avg(45 yard td run makes his y/c look good) 1.5 rec/game 13.7avg

Denver defense has allowed 2.9 yards per carry, 70 yards a game (@ Cin, VS Cle)

Oakland defense has allowed 4.1 yards per carry, 125 yards a game (VS SD, @ KC)

Hard to expect much from Oakland RB's as Denver looks to have shored up their defense this year. Moreno looks like he could have a decent game if he could get 15 carries and 2-3 catches. I think you have to hope for a TD from any RB going in this game though...

Thank you ministry of pain, as always a really good job.
nice post and thanks
 
MOP:

I love the writeups, but can I ask that you not use yellow for Green Bay next time. Much harder to read - go with the green.

Regarding the Philly-Chiefs game, I think Westbrook will be a go, and that the Chiefs will be in over their heads this week. They aren't an elite offense, and I doubt the Eagles specail teams is that horrific again. SO I'd expect Westbrook/McCoy to end up with pretty good numbers.

I also like Sproles a bit better than you do this wek. He wasn't moving the ball on the gorund last week - against the Ravens. let's see what happens with a much easier matchup.

 
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There isn't anything you wrote that I don't agree with this week so I'll just say Thank You MOP. I always look forward to your posting.

 
First time, long time. Thanks for having me.

I have a few backs with good matchups this week, wondering what you would do. PPR league. Leaning toward SJax and Grant, though McGahee is VERY tempting, guy is running really well and has a better team than Grant, but he splits carries, and no one knows how it will shake out (with the exception of the goal line). Who would you start and why? Thanks, man.

SJax - Definitely starting

Grant - Leaning this way

LJ - NOT starting, have a feeling Philly bottles him up

McGahee - MAYBE? - great running team, will see goalline work, but will he see 15+ carries again? Doubtful

Caddy - NOT starting; though Giants have been VERY porous against the run, Canty still out, Tuck might be out, tempting

Moreno - NOT starting, need to see a bit more, though admittedly I think he could be huge very soon

 
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I expect Slaton to get it going, he had good numbers in both games vs JAX last year. Or I at least hope so.

I have Rice and McGahee(could start both, but like Slaton). So which one should I roll with? McGahee is doing work now, but I see Rice getting a lot this week, in what should be an easy W for the Baltimorons.

 
For those in deep, bestball, PPR leagues, guys you wouldn't necessarily start but who could put up decent starterlike numbers are pass catching backs likely to be on the wrong side of blowouts: Forsett of Sea and Harrison of Cle.

 
Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality.

Are you a rice owner or something?

 
Great post as usual, appreciate your work

I like Jacobs this week I believe I read that he did not get his first TD until week 3 last year and with Eli lighting it up it is only a matter of time before he goes off or at least finds the end zone!!

 
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I expect Slaton to get it going, he had good numbers in both games vs JAX last year. Or I at least hope so.
Before last week's game, Slaton supporters were quick to point out he had good numbers in both games against Tennessee last year. Now all we hear about is how good their run D is. :no:
 
shredhead said:
Ministry of Pain said:
shredhead said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Denver at Oakland (+1) (36)

I have almost zero interest in this game so I am going to let the Shark Pool have at it. I’ll weigh in closer to Sunday.
:mellow:
I'll look at it later this week. What's your take on the game Shred?
It's gonna be about as exciting as the KC/Oak game last week. Bench all players from both teams. This includes QB's, WR's, TE's, and Kickers too. If anyone plays in a league with punters, then maybe consider starting someone from this game. I am benching McFadden on my own team.
I like Moreno this week. Sure the Oakland defense has improved with the addition of Seymour, but Moreno was very impressive last week. He has a burst, good hands, great vision and he finishes plays. I can see his workload increasing again this week and would start him with confidence if I had him. I think he and Zach Miller might be the only startable options out of any player on either team.
 
Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now (1st 2 weeks in 2009) in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality.

Are you a rice owner or something?
Fixed and no I am not a Rice owner.
No need to "fix" it as nothing I said was incorrect. It just seems you are ignoring the trend.
Obviously the key is to figure out which trends should be respected and which should be ignored.In this particular case (Rice v McGahee), reasonable minds can disagree over which guy will be more valuable going forward.

 
Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now (1st 2 weeks in 2009) in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality.

Are you a rice owner or something?
Fixed and no I am not a Rice owner.
No need to "fix" it as nothing I said was incorrect. It just seems you are ignoring the trend.
Obviously the key is to figure out which trends should be respected and which should be ignored.In this particular case (Rice v McGahee), reasonable minds can disagree over which guy will be more valuable going forward.
True but it is a fair point to certainly acknowledge that McGahee's role has been much bigger than many (and just about all of those that were trumpeting Rice as a breakout RB this year) felt would be the case in 2009. Sure that can change but now it would need both a regression by McGahee and strong play by Rice for that to occur.
 
Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now (1st 2 weeks in 2009) in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality.

Are you a rice owner or something?
Fixed and no I am not a Rice owner.
No need to "fix" it as nothing I said was incorrect. It just seems you are ignoring the trend.
Obviously the key is to figure out which trends should be respected and which should be ignored.In this particular case (Rice v McGahee), reasonable minds can disagree over which guy will be more valuable going forward.
True but it is a fair point to certainly acknowledge that McGahee's role has been much bigger than many (and just about all of those that were trumpeting Rice as a breakout RB this year) felt would be the case in 2009. Sure that can change but now it would need both a regression by McGahee and strong play by Rice for that to occur.
IMO the only surprise is that McGahee got more carries than Rice in week 2. The rest has played out the way I expected, with Rice getting most of the carries and receptions, but McGahee getting the GL work. I expect that to continue going forward, and for Rice to finish with ~1500 combined yards and something like 5 TDs; McGahee with maybe 800-1000 yards and 8-10 TDs. That'd give Rice 180 fantasy points and McGahee 144.
 
Question regarding your Dolphins. Didn't see the ATL game (where the bottled up Turner pretty well), but with only 10 rushes against them vs the Colts, the Dolphins gave up 58 yards and a TD. Add in 2 more receptions for 31 yards, and RBs exploited the MIA D with 12 touches for 89 yards and a TD. I doubt the Chargers give Sproles 20 touches, but 15 seems likely. Is he a RB1 this week?

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Jacksonville at Houston (-4) (46.5)

The Jags are really struggling right now and were down 31-3 last week before they started moving the ball. That will change this week. Houston is giving up 6.3 ypc which is exacerbated by Chris Johnson and his long Touchdowns and gains last week. But I believe the Jags need to get their ground game moving. The passing game struggles when the game is actually in question so I believe they will try and set the pace with the running game.

Houston was down 21-7 to Tennessee last week before they woke up and Schaub started firing missiles all over the place…can he sustain it? I want Houston to become a playoff team but they have a lot of problems defensively and I believe the Jags with a good week of practice will come in and run it right at them . Jax is only giving up 3.2 ypc so Houston will have to throw it to win again…Warner saw that as a great idea last week and was almost perfect .

Maurice Jones-Drew: Should explode this week. Houston allows a lot of points and if MJD is ever going to have a huge game this is it. No one would ever bench him anyways but again he is a top10, likely top5 play potential this week.

Steve Slaton: I mentioned he was going to struggle preseason and no one wanted to hear it. Alright, no one likes an “I told you so”, I’ll stop. Slaton owners should get a better game this week….maybe.

Final Score: Jacksonville 24…Houston 20
Didn't you also say in the preseason that MJD should be the #1 overall FF RB? He's not even top-10 in any of my leagues right now. I know it's early, and even if you weren't one the the MJD hypes, I wouldn't gloat too much about Slaton after two weeks, just like I wouldn't start dishing out crow to all the "MJD is #1" people.
 
Question regarding your Dolphins. Didn't see the ATL game (where the bottled up Turner pretty well), but with only 10 rushes against them vs the Colts, the Dolphins gave up 58 yards and a TD. Add in 2 more receptions for 31 yards, and RBs exploited the MIA D with 12 touches for 89 yards and a TD. I doubt the Chargers give Sproles 20 touches, but 15 seems likely. Is he a RB1 this week?
Addai averaged 5.3 YPC and was only stopped on one run against MIA. Brown averaged over 6 with his 15 yard TD run at the end.I'm not so sure MIA is that good of a rush D.
 
steelcityman said:
I expect Slaton to get it going, he had good numbers in both games vs JAX last year. Or I at least hope so.
Before last week's game, Slaton supporters were quick to point out he had good numbers in both games against Tennessee last year. Now all we hear about is how good their run D is. :goodposting:
I saw that Tenn run defense shut down the Steelers week 1, I started Slaton last week, but didnt expect, or get, much.Jax isnt as tough as Tenn IMO.
 
Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now (1st 2 weeks in 2009) in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality.

Are you a rice owner or something?
Fixed and no I am not a Rice owner.
No need to "fix" it as nothing I said was incorrect. It just seems you are ignoring the trend.
Will mario Manningham remain the #1 WR in FF? I'm not trying to be a smartbutt, just not sure I can answer your question. The TDs are what is making McGahee an attractive pick. He's on pace for 32 right now, can that continue?
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Jacksonville at Houston (-4) (46.5)

The Jags are really struggling right now and were down 31-3 last week before they started moving the ball. That will change this week. Houston is giving up 6.3 ypc which is exacerbated by Chris Johnson and his long Touchdowns and gains last week. But I believe the Jags need to get their ground game moving. The passing game struggles when the game is actually in question so I believe they will try and set the pace with the running game.

Houston was down 21-7 to Tennessee last week before they woke up and Schaub started firing missiles all over the place…can he sustain it? I want Houston to become a playoff team but they have a lot of problems defensively and I believe the Jags with a good week of practice will come in and run it right at them . Jax is only giving up 3.2 ypc so Houston will have to throw it to win again…Warner saw that as a great idea last week and was almost perfect .

Maurice Jones-Drew: Should explode this week. Houston allows a lot of points and if MJD is ever going to have a huge game this is it. No one would ever bench him anyways but again he is a top10, likely top5 play potential this week.

Steve Slaton: I mentioned he was going to struggle preseason and no one wanted to hear it. Alright, no one likes an “I told you so”, I’ll stop. Slaton owners should get a better game this week….maybe.

Final Score: Jacksonville 24…Houston 20
Didn't you also say in the preseason that MJD should be the #1 overall FF RB? He's not even top-10 in any of my leagues right now. I know it's early, and even if you weren't one the the MJD hypes, I wouldn't gloat too much about Slaton after two weeks, just like I wouldn't start dishing out crow to all the "MJD is #1" people.
Jeff Tefertiller is having a good laugh at this one right now...I was overly critical of FBG pushing MJD as a potential #1 pick over the likes of ADP and others. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
Didn't you also say in the preseason that MJD should be the #1 overall FF RB? He's not even top-10 in any of my leagues right now. I know it's early, and even if you weren't one the the MJD hypes, I wouldn't gloat too much about Slaton after two weeks, just like I wouldn't start dishing out crow to all the "MJD is #1" people.
Jeff Tefertiller is having a good laugh at this one right now...I was overly critical of FBG pushing MJD as a potential #1 pick over the likes of ADP and others. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Well, as I said, even if you weren't - it's still WAY too early to gloat about Slaton, just as it's way too early to pound your chest about MJD.
 
Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now (1st 2 weeks in 2009) in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality.

Are you a rice owner or something?
Fixed and no I am not a Rice owner.
No need to "fix" it as nothing I said was incorrect. It just seems you are ignoring the trend.
Will mario Manningham remain the #1 WR in FF? I'm not trying to be a smartbutt, just not sure I can answer your question. The TDs are what is making McGahee an attractive pick. He's on pace for 32 right now, can that continue?
Rice has 34 touches through 2 gamesMcGahee has 31 touches through 2 games.

Yes, 2 games is a small sample size, but McGahee plays on a team that has proven it will stick with the run and will employ a RBBC. He's also looking to be THE guy when it comes to GL carries. So while he may not get 2 TDs a game, he is still keeping pace with Rice on a touches-per-game basis and has more opportunities for the TD. He's been more than just a GL vulture so far this year. I don't understand why someone would go with Rice over McGahee at this point. And for the record, I have both and will be starting both this week.

 

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