RB Match Ups to exploit/avoid week 3 (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now (1st 2 weeks in 2009) in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality.

Are you a rice owner or something?

Fixed and no I am not a Rice owner.

No need to "fix" it as nothing I said was incorrect. It just seems you are ignoring the trend.

Will mario Manningham remain the #1 WR in FF? I'm not trying to be a smartbutt, just not sure I can answer your question. The TDs are what is making McGahee an attractive pick. He's on pace for 32 right now, can that continue?

Rice has 34 touches through 2 gamesMcGahee has 31 touches through 2 games.

Yes, 2 games is a small sample size, but McGahee plays on a team that has proven it will stick with the run and will employ a RBBC. He's also looking to be THE guy when it comes to GL carries. So while he may not get 2 TDs a game, he is still keeping pace with Rice on a touches-per-game basis and has more opportunities for the TD. He's been more than just a GL vulture so far this year. I don't understand why someone would go with Rice over McGahee at this point. And for the record, I have both and will be starting both this week.

My vote is always for sale and the two of you are bringing up some very valid points and reasons. I'm going to research this some tonight with the drive charts, that might shed a little light on this. It seemed like Rice was used less in the 2nd half/4th qtr, but I could be wrong. What happened to McGahee speaking about Rice being the RB1 pretty much in the preseason?

 

[Buffaloes]

My vote is always for sale and the two of you are bringing up some very valid points and reasons. I'm going to research this some tonight with the drive charts, that might shed a little light on this. It seemed like Rice was used less in the 2nd half/4th qtr, but I could be wrong.

What happened to McGahee speaking about Rice being the RB1 pretty much in the preseason?

I'm not sure but I caught part of the Charger-Raven game yesterday and both RBs looked very effective. I was surprised to see McGahee being used between the 20s so much. I think this is a fluid situation that may change over the course of the season depending on who the "hot hand" is. I just think what McGahee may lose in catches, which has not been much so far, is more than made up for in TD potential.Edit to add: Rice has 7 receptions to McGahee's 6 so far. Again, only 2 games in but interesting nonetheless.

 

[ExtraPoint]

The two best games Russell has ever played have been against Denver. Denver has shown good D so far but McFadden is due for a big run. If DMC has been in your lineup, I wouldnt bench him because of the matchup.

Denver should be able to run on Oakland and Moreno appeared to begin taking over last week. However this is a road game against a division rival. That could mean more of Buckhalter this week. Denver does not want to lose this game. Moreno might need another week to really supplant Buckhalter. It'll happen soon, just be catious on the road. Expect an even split and if he gets more carries, consider it a bonus.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

The two best games Russell has ever played have been against Denver. Denver has shown good D so far but McFadden is due for a big run. If DMC has been in your lineup, I wouldnt bench him because of the matchup.

Denver should be able to run on Oakland and Moreno appeared to begin taking over last week. However this is a road game against a division rival. That could mean more of Buckhalter this week. Denver does not want to lose this game. Moreno might need another week to really supplant Buckhalter. It'll happen soon, just be catious on the road. Expect an even split and if he gets more carries, consider it a bonus.

Moreno got 17 carries to Buckhalter 9 last week.

In the 4th quarter, Moreno ran for 5 and 17 yards on consecutive plays. The next play was a handoff to Buckhalter who took it 45 yards for a TD. Does Moreno take it to the house if he's in there? No way to know for sure, but Moreno appears to already have grabbed the lions share of the carries in Denver. I am fully expecting him to get the normal work that RB1s generally get. 65-70% of the carries.

 

[davearm]

Rice has 34 touches through 2 gamesMcGahee has 31 touches through 2 games.Yes, 2 games is a small sample size, but McGahee plays on a team that has proven it will stick with the run and will employ a RBBC. He's also looking to be THE guy when it comes to GL carries. So while he may not get 2 TDs a game, he is still keeping pace with Rice on a touches-per-game basis and has more opportunities for the TD. He's been more than just a GL vulture so far this year. I don't understand why someone would go with Rice over McGahee at this point. And for the record, I have both and will be starting both this week.

People knew before the season that McGahee would get his touches and be the GL vulture, yet the consensus then was Rice > McGahee.After two games I don't see anything that would make me think the preseason outlook for these two was inaccurate.

 

[NYCGangGreen]

My vote is always for sale and the two of you are bringing up some very valid points and reasons. I'm going to research this some tonight with the drive charts, that might shed a little light on this. It seemed like Rice was used less in the 2nd half/4th qtr, but I could be wrong.

What happened to McGahee speaking about Rice being the RB1 pretty much in the preseason?

I'm not sure but I caught part of the Charger-Raven game yesterday and both RBs looked very effective. I was surprised to see McGahee being used between the 20s so much. I think this is a fluid situation that may change over the course of the season depending on who the "hot hand" is. I just think what McGahee may lose in catches, which has not been much so far, is more than made up for in TD potential.Edit to add: Rice has 7 receptions to McGahee's 6 so far. Again, only 2 games in but interesting nonetheless.

This may just be a bit of , but this is McGahee's last year under contract with Balt. if I remember corrctly. Could the Balt. staff be using him this much early on, A) to keep Rice fresh for later in the year when feature backs generally tend to slow due to the beatings early on? and B) to possibly build up some value for him before the trade deadline and ship him off for whatever they can get?

Seems if by allowing him to still prove useful, some team (Houston?) may be willing to part with say a late round pick to get something?

 

[the rover]

My vote is always for sale and the two of you are bringing up some very valid points and reasons. I'm going to research this some tonight with the drive charts, that might shed a little light on this. It seemed like Rice was used less in the 2nd half/4th qtr, but I could be wrong.

What happened to McGahee speaking about Rice being the RB1 pretty much in the preseason?

I'm not sure but I caught part of the Charger-Raven game yesterday and both RBs looked very effective. I was surprised to see McGahee being used between the 20s so much. I think this is a fluid situation that may change over the course of the season depending on who the "hot hand" is. I just think what McGahee may lose in catches, which has not been much so far, is more than made up for in TD potential.Edit to add: Rice has 7 receptions to McGahee's 6 so far. Again, only 2 games in but interesting nonetheless.

This may just be a bit of , but this is McGahee's last year under contract with Balt. if I remember corrctly. Could the Balt. staff be using him this much early on, A) to keep Rice fresh for later in the year when feature backs generally tend to slow due to the beatings early on? and B) to possibly build up some value for him before the trade deadline and ship him off for whatever they can get?

Seems if by allowing him to still prove useful, some team (Houston?) may be willing to part with say a late round pick to get something?

Maybe they're just using him because he's being incredibly effective in his role.

 

[Gr00vus]

Final Score: Tampa Bay 24…NY Giants 21

Serious?

yes and the Bolts are D.O.A. this week.

Like I said in the charger thread, if I were betting football I'd be taking the Dolphins this week.Anyway, care to elaborate on why you think the Bucs will beat the Giants (who beat the Cowboys, who beat the Bucs pretty handily)?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Final Score: Tampa Bay 24…NY Giants 21

Serious?

yes and the Bolts are D.O.A. this week.

Like I said in the charger thread, if I were betting football I'd be taking the Dolphins this week.Anyway, care to elaborate on why you think the Bucs will beat the Giants (who beat the Cowboys, who beat the Bucs pretty handily)?

Let down after they slayed Goliath(Jerry Jones) last week, on the road again, the heat will be thru the roof, and they can't stop the run very well right now. the DL is quick adn is more of a pass rush threat it would seem at the moment. Dallas was just running right at them and it was effective.

 

[Gr00vus]

Anyway, care to elaborate on why you think the Bucs will beat the Giants (who beat the Cowboys, who beat the Bucs pretty handily)?

Let down after they slayed Goliath(Jerry Jones) last week, on the road again, the heat will be thru the roof, and they can't stop the run very well right now. the DL is quick adn is more of a pass rush threat it would seem at the moment. Dallas was just running right at them and it was effective.

And when the Giants have the ball...

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

2009-09-23 21:13:02 New Orleans Saints RB Pierre Thomas (knee) practiced in full Wednesday, Sept. 23. That has to be a good sign

Didnt he also practice in full last Wednesday?

Good question

Saints | Thomas practices Wednesday, says he will play Week 2 Wed Sep 16, 07:09 PMJeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints RB Pierre Thomas (knee) said he participated in practice without pain Wednesday, Sept. 16 and will play in Week 2. Thomas wore a big brace on his knee during practice and had it wrapped with ice after.

Its worth noting that he was limited in the Thursday practice last week though.

 

[Gr00vus]

Brandon Jacobs: Needs to get on track, can this be the week? The Bucs allowed Dallas to run pretty well and they also watched Fred Jackson run all over them last week. Logic would say this is a good spot for Jacobs.

I also meant to mention I think Jacobs goes off this week, multiple TDs.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

I expected a Giants letdown or two to happen after some of their many big wins last year and it basically never happened. Plus I'm pretty sure they're smart enough to realize (even if they don't admit it) that Romo basically gave them the game and they got lucky.

Could definitely see the Jets not responding well to success though after being told how great they are all week...

And obv. Tenn >>> Tampa

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Let's talk about some of the games and updates this morning.

Clinton Portis: Watch the pregame but if he cannot go I like Betts to have a big day.

Dallas situation: I would really like to know what MB III does tomorrow night because if he isn't gonna go I like Tashard Choice almost as much as Felix Jones. I am not convinved Jones can carry the ball 20 times.

Tashsard Choice ran it 23 times for 88 yds against the Super Bowl bound Steelers last year and also had 5 catches for 78 yds in the same game.

9/91/TD against the Giants while adding 4/50 in receptions too.

17/90/TD against the Ravens and 7/25 thru the air in the same game.

Bottom line is Choice has some track history in his short career to lead us to believe he can pound it if need be. I apologize for not talking him up more earlier in the week.

More as I think of it this morning.

 

[Breesisdaman]

New Orleans at Buffalo (+6) (52)The Saints are scoring over 40 points a week and are suddenly going to the Super Bowl…wow. I believe this week they will have a big let down in Buffalo, and that coupled with a very feisty and dangerous Bills team could spell big trouble. Mike Bell is out for a possible month with the same injury Pierre Thomas has been nursing, MCL sprain. There is talk about Hamilton now making a start this weekend. It’s too bad when your RB2 and RB3 are on the shelf that you can’t turn to the RB1, Mr. Bush.It’s interesting as both teams have been shutting down the run pretty well. The Saints offense is making other teams abandon the run so it’s hard to tell how good they really are but to this point…59 yds a game and a 2.9 ypc. Meanwhile the Bills are only giving up 3.1 ypc and 65 yds a game rushing. I believe NO will finally fall short of 40 this weekend. Mike Bell: Injured, likely out this weekReggie Bush: Healthy but until the end of the game last week was a non factor in the running game.Pierre Thomas: Not being talked about that he is ready to carry the load.Hamilton: Scrub the WW, you might find him. Fred Jackson: One more week till Lynch returns. Freddie has done an admiral job of holding down the fort while he was away. I like him to do well again this week. Final Score: Buffalo 27…New Orleans 24

The Saints are going to the Superbowl and you are way off on this prediction. Makes for entertaining reading though. the Saints dont need to run to be successful but I expect Reggie Bush to get a lot of all purpose yards today. For the Bills, Jackson wont break 75 yards but he will get a TD in garbage time so from a FF perspective he is not a bad start but don't look for him to have a career day..

 

[Ministry of Pain]

WHo is starting in Cleveland, does it matter?

 

[GECKO]

not that you need to hear this again but great stuff MOP!

 

[ImTheScientist]

Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality. Are you a rice owner or something?

 

[cubbie5150]

Ryan Grant should never be considered an "Exploit", dude is a POS

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Mop, every week you have picked against Willis McGahee yet he is a Top 5 RB right now in most leagues. You go with Rice over him while ignoring the stats/reality. Are you a rice owner or something?

Rice has 72 yds so far, 11 carries, 3 receptions and a Touchdown...16 points in PPRMcGahee has 6 touches...they're great touches but he has 6 touches...You gotta give me more...you can't expect McGahee to continue on this pace, it's silly.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Ryan Grant should never be considered an "Exploit", dude is a POS

Top 20 on the season...

 

[Breesisdaman]

I'm curious if your opinion on the Saints has changed MOP. Do you still think they are a push over team?

 

[Gr00vus]

Ryan Grant should never be considered an "Exploit", dude is a POS

I think you have Grant confused with Larry Johnson (not that he was marked and "Exploit").

 

[Gr00vus]

Final Score: Tampa Bay 24…NY Giants 21

Serious?

yes and the Bolts are D.O.A. this week.

Like I said in the charger thread, if I were betting football I'd be taking the Dolphins this week.Anyway, care to elaborate on why you think the Bucs will beat the Giants (who beat the Cowboys, who beat the Bucs pretty handily)?

Let down after they slayed Goliath(Jerry Jones) last week, on the road again, the heat will be thru the roof, and they can't stop the run very well right now. the DL is quick adn is more of a pass rush threat it would seem at the moment. Dallas was just running right at them and it was effective.

MOP with the whiiiiffff......

 

[Ministry of Pain]

MOP with the whiiiiffff......

How bout Bucs with the whiff?