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RBs in 08 (1 Viewer)

whitewizard2

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a little bit ago i started a topic about the list of guys i thought would do really well and based the list off my basically gut feeling and just overall memory of the crap year it was for RBs. i got alot of feed back most of it positive and informative. as well as a few links to some sites that had rankings but i just prefer to talk to guys who i can repond to and get the magazines if i need them later when everything is settled from the draft. now i want to hear from everybody else. who do you think will be the top 24 backs next year? (a little info next to the player about why you think so would be appreciated)

 
Completely off the cuff, gut, by tiers, PPR:

1. LT

2. ADP

3. Westbrook

4. Sjax

5. Portis

6. Addai

7. Bush

8. MJD

9. LJ

10. Willie Parker

11. MB3

12. R.Grant

13. Lynch

14. Gore

15. McGahee

16. Ronnie Brown

17. Maroney

18. Jamal

19. Edge

20. Graham

21. DeAngelo

22. Turner

23. Jacobs

24. TBA after drafted in PDSL2

 
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ADP

LT

Westy

Sjax

LJ

Gore

Grant

Addai

Fast Willie

R Brown

Portis

MB3

MJDrew

Lynch

RBush

McGahee

JLewis

Maroney

 
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1. ADP

2. Sjax

3. LJ

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

6. Portis

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Lynch

10. Parker

11. Jacobs

12. LT

13. R.Grant

14. McFadden

15. Graham

16. Gore

17. Fred Taylor

18. Pierre Thomas

19. Maroney

20. Jamal

21. M. Turner

22. McGahee

23. Edge

24. Ricky Williams

25. Sproles

this is finally the year LT wears down. :own3d:

LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.

Bush isn't even mentioned, Pierre Thomas takes over the #1 RB role in N.O.

Frank Gore's not hurt, it was a joke apparently. I'd still rank him no higher than 16th though.

McFadden should start from day one.

MJD is not ready for prime time, its still Fred Taylor's job.

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..

Ricky Williams is a long shot, but I had to include him , in no way will Ronnie Brown be ready for opening day, and he'll likely miss at least 1/2 of the 2008 season. Williams will probably be in the best shape of his life, and will likely get a healthy dose of carries in the Dan Henning offense Miami will utilize ( if they keep him,that is :lol: )

Sproles breaks into the top 25 because he's the de facto `backup with the most upside in the NFL` if the starter (LT) goes down.

 
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LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.
Did the Chiefs get an OL?
McFadden should start from day one.
How many rookie RBs start from Day One anymore?
Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs.
If SEA had such a dominant running attack and OL, then why did they rank 20th in rushing yards, 22nd in rushing TD, and 26th in ypc?
 
Tiered:

16+ TDs

ADP

LT

14-15 TDs

SJax

Addai

Westbrook

12-13 TDs

Portis

Gore

LJ

Barber

Jones-Drew

10-11 TDs

Parker

Lynch

Grant

McGahee

Brown

5-9 TDs

Lewis

Jacobs

Turner

Graham

DMc

Moroney

Bush

Williams

James

Assumes healthy

 
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1. ADP

2. Sjax

3. LJ

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

6. Portis

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Lynch

10. Parker

11. Jacobs

12. LT

13. R.Grant

14. McFadden

15. Graham

16. Jamal

17. Fred Taylor

18. Pierre Thomas

19. Maroney

20. Turner

21. Gore

22. McGahee

23. Edge

24. Ricky Williams

25. Sproles

this is finally the year LT wears down. :lmao:

LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.

Bush isn't even mentioned, Pierre Thomas takes over the #1 RB role in N.O.

Frank Gore's hip injury and the fact that the Martz offenses seem less inclined to run the ball vs. passes to the RB's, drops him all the way to 20 IMO..

McFadden should start from day one.

MJD is not ready for prime time, its still Fred Taylor's job.

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..

Ricky Williams is a long shot, but I had to include him , in no way will Ronnie Brown be ready for opening day, and he'll likely miss at least 1/2 of the 2008 season. Williams will probably be in the best shape of his life, and will likely get a healthy dose of carries in the Dan Henning offense Miami will utilize ( if they keep him,that is :thumbdown: )

Sproles breaks into the top 25 because he's the de facto `backup with the most upside in the NFL` if the starter (LT) goes down.
Huh? :unsure:
 
1. ADP

2. Sjax

3. LJ

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

6. Portis

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Lynch

10. Parker

11. Jacobs

12. LT

13. R.Grant

14. McFadden

15. Graham

16. Jamal

17. Fred Taylor

18. Pierre Thomas

19. Maroney

20. Turner

21. Gore

22. McGahee

23. Edge

24. Ricky Williams

25. Sproles

this is finally the year LT wears down. :goodposting:

LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.

Bush isn't even mentioned, Pierre Thomas takes over the #1 RB role in N.O.

Frank Gore's hip injury and the fact that the Martz offenses seem less inclined to run the ball vs. passes to the RB's, drops him all the way to 20 IMO..

McFadden should start from day one.

MJD is not ready for prime time, its still Fred Taylor's job.

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..

Ricky Williams is a long shot, but I had to include him , in no way will Ronnie Brown be ready for opening day, and he'll likely miss at least 1/2 of the 2008 season. Williams will probably be in the best shape of his life, and will likely get a healthy dose of carries in the Dan Henning offense Miami will utilize ( if they keep him,that is :excited: )

Sproles breaks into the top 25 because he's the de facto `backup with the most upside in the NFL` if the starter (LT) goes down.
:confused: :confused: :confused: Who let my league guppy in?

 
1. ADP

2. Sjax

3. LJ

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

6. Portis

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Lynch

10. Parker

11. Jacobs

12. LT

13. R.Grant

14. McFadden

15. Graham

16. Jamal

17. Fred Taylor

18. Pierre Thomas

19. Maroney

20. Turner

21. Gore

22. McGahee

23. Edge

24. Ricky Williams

25. Sproles

this is finally the year LT wears down. :clyde:

LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.

Bush isn't even mentioned, Pierre Thomas takes over the #1 RB role in N.O.

Frank Gore's hip injury and the fact that the Martz offenses seem less inclined to run the ball vs. passes to the RB's, drops him all the way to 20 IMO..

McFadden should start from day one.

MJD is not ready for prime time, its still Fred Taylor's job.

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..

Ricky Williams is a long shot, but I had to include him , in no way will Ronnie Brown be ready for opening day, and he'll likely miss at least 1/2 of the 2008 season. Williams will probably be in the best shape of his life, and will likely get a healthy dose of carries in the Dan Henning offense Miami will utilize ( if they keep him,that is :bs: )

Sproles breaks into the top 25 because he's the de facto `backup with the most upside in the NFL` if the starter (LT) goes down.
This is pretty bad.
 
Completely off the cuff, gut, by tiers, PPR:

1. LT

2. ADP

3. Westbrook

4. Sjax

5. Portis

6. Addai

7. Bush

8. MJD

9. LJ

10. Willie Parker

11. MB3

12. R.Grant

13. Lynch

14. Gore

15. McGahee

16. Ronnie Brown

17. Maroney

18. Jamal

19. Edge

20. Graham

21. DeAngelo

22. Turner

23. Jacobs

24. TBA after drafted in PDSL2
FUBAR I know I yanked your chain in another thread, but this is what I like to see. I don't agree with all of your rankings but you threw it out there. Its YOUR rankings and you seem to deviate a bit from the herd, bold. Great Job!! :clyde: Actually real good especially since its a tier ranking, I have Gore near the Top five and and Parker further down, but I cant argue much with any of the rest of it.

 
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PPR Redraft

1. Jackson

2. Tomlinson

3. Westbrook

4. Peterson

5. Portis

6. Gore

7. Addai

8. Bush

9. Johnson

10. Brown

11. Jones-Drew

12. Lynch

13. Barber

14. McGahee

15. Parker

16. Lewis

17. Grant

18. Turner

19. Graham

20. James

 
LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.
Did the Chiefs get an OL?
McFadden should start from day one.
How many rookie RBs start from Day One anymore?
Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs.
If SEA had such a dominant running attack and OL, then why did they rank 20th in rushing yards, 22nd in rushing TD, and 26th in ypc?
:shrug: LJ will be lucky to crack top 15 this year. Coming from a PT- his days are over

McFadden will not start day 1. He'll play, but won't start. He won't get 80-100% of the carries either

And SEA's OL went down the crapper once Jones' age caught up with him and once Huchinson left for MIN...

 
1. ADP

2. Sjax

3. LJ

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

6. Portis

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Lynch

10. Parker

11. Jacobs

12. LT

13. R.Grant

14. McFadden

15. Graham

16. Jamal

17. Fred Taylor

18. Pierre Thomas

19. Maroney

20. Turner

21. Gore

22. McGahee

23. Edge

24. Ricky Williams

25. Sproles

this is finally the year LT wears down. :sadbanana:

LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.

Bush isn't even mentioned, Pierre Thomas takes over the #1 RB role in N.O.

Frank Gore's hip injury and the fact that the Martz offenses seem less inclined to run the ball vs. passes to the RB's, drops him all the way to 20 IMO..

McFadden should start from day one.

MJD is not ready for prime time, its still Fred Taylor's job.

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..

Ricky Williams is a long shot, but I had to include him , in no way will Ronnie Brown be ready for opening day, and he'll likely miss at least 1/2 of the 2008 season. Williams will probably be in the best shape of his life, and will likely get a healthy dose of carries in the Dan Henning offense Miami will utilize ( if they keep him,that is :excited: )

Sproles breaks into the top 25 because he's the de facto `backup with the most upside in the NFL` if the starter (LT) goes down.
This is pretty bad.
Keys! Man, been a long time. You still doing the "ask keys" threads? I should get my ask me about any trade thread started again

And yes, those rankings are awful. I feel bad for that kid. Gonna finish last in his league after he laughs about scoring LJ first round, McFadden second

 
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1. ADP

2. Sjax

3. LJ

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

6. Portis

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Lynch

10. Parker

11. Jacobs

12. LT

13. R.Grant

14. McFadden

15. Graham

16. Jamal

17. Fred Taylor

18. Pierre Thomas

19. Maroney

20. Turner

21. Gore

22. McGahee

23. Edge

24. Ricky Williams

25. Sproles

this is finally the year LT wears down. :wall:

LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.

Bush isn't even mentioned, Pierre Thomas takes over the #1 RB role in N.O.

Frank Gore's hip injury and the fact that the Martz offenses seem less inclined to run the ball vs. passes to the RB's, drops him all the way to 20 IMO..

McFadden should start from day one.

MJD is not ready for prime time, its still Fred Taylor's job.

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..

Ricky Williams is a long shot, but I had to include him , in no way will Ronnie Brown be ready for opening day, and he'll likely miss at least 1/2 of the 2008 season. Williams will probably be in the best shape of his life, and will likely get a healthy dose of carries in the Dan Henning offense Miami will utilize ( if they keep him,that is :wub: )

Sproles breaks into the top 25 because he's the de facto `backup with the most upside in the NFL` if the starter (LT) goes down.
This is pretty bad.
I think I disagree here. NOT THAT I AGREE WITH THIS LIST, but I love the fact that he's thinking outside the norm. The top 20 RB's after the 2008-2009 season will be nothing like the average pre-season rankings (as history has shown us time and time again). I'm sure if someone put Graham and Grant in the top 20 last year pre season, and LJ outside the top 20, you would have all been calling him an idiot too.
 
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1. ADP

2. Sjax

3. LJ

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

6. Portis

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Lynch

10. Parker

11. Jacobs

12. LT

13. R.Grant

14. McFadden

15. Graham

16. Jamal

17. Fred Taylor

18. Pierre Thomas

19. Maroney

20. Turner

21. Gore

22. McGahee

23. Edge

24. Ricky Williams

25. Sproles

this is finally the year LT wears down. :confused:

LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.

Bush isn't even mentioned, Pierre Thomas takes over the #1 RB role in N.O.

Frank Gore's hip injury and the fact that the Martz offenses seem less inclined to run the ball vs. passes to the RB's, drops him all the way to 20 IMO..McFadden should start from day one.

MJD is not ready for prime time, its still Fred Taylor's job.

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..

Ricky Williams is a long shot, but I had to include him , in no way will Ronnie Brown be ready for opening day, and he'll likely miss at least 1/2 of the 2008 season. Williams will probably be in the best shape of his life, and will likely get a healthy dose of carries in the Dan Henning offense Miami will utilize ( if they keep him,that is :lmao: )

Sproles breaks into the top 25 because he's the de facto `backup with the most upside in the NFL` if the starter (LT) goes down.
This is pretty bad.
I think I disagree here. NOT THAT I AGREE WITH THIS LIST, but I love the fact that he's thinking outside the norm. The top 20 RB's after the 2008-2009 season will be nothing like the average pre-season rankings (as history has shown us time and time again). I'm sure if someone put Graham and Grant in the top 20 last year pre season, and LJ outside the top 20, you would have all been calling him an idiot too.
Nothing wrong about thinking outside the box... But do it within reason... this guy is STILL convinced Gore has a degenerative hip injury (April fools was over 3 days ago... but I've got a bag of dirt for sale if you're interested)Look at what I highlighted...

1. So LJ is going to bounce back hey? The fact that they have no OL, no QB, and that LJ's condition was very serious last year...

2. Bush isn't even mentioned? Even as a #2 back he will get 70+ receptions... which even in a no PPR league he's still posting 1000+ combined yards...

3. Frank Gore... like I said, I've got a bag of dirt for sale if this poster's interested... Gore's injury all last year was an ankle injury. He does not have a hip injury or condition.

4. Julius Jones, Duckett, Alexander, Maurice Morris... he thinks Jones is going to emerge from ALL of those guys to post top 5 stats? I'll have what he's having (kid, their OL is half of what it was when Alexander went nuts)

5. He admitted that Ricky Williams was a long shot... :lmao: I think Ricky Williams is the least long shot of all of those guys I talked about!!!!

There's a difference between being just plain stupid and taking risks on your rankings... this guy is just plain stupid

EDIT: Thinking outside the box is putting LJ's backup at around 19th, J. Jones on that list, but not top 5... #18 seems more likely. I can live with the LT downgrade, but not that far... he's got the right idea, just taken it to a ridiculous extreme...

 
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Off the cuff like FUBAR's

I tihnk these three guys are the safest to finish top-5

LT

ADP

Addai

These three are bordeline top-5, definite top-10

Westbrook

Sjax

Portis

I could see some of these jumping into top-5, most being in top-10

Gore

R.Grant

Lynch

Mendenhall

McGahee

Willie Parker

(Notice I have 12 RBs in the "top-10" because every year a few are either injured or something bizarre makes them fall off the earth)

These are the "second round at best" RBs...

R.Bush

Turner

MJD

Jamal

Felix Jones

These guys have plenty of risk, but likely will be the feature backs for their teams

LJ

MB3

Edge

Guys that are probably sharing time, but will get the majority of the carries early in the season at least

T.Henry

R.Williams

McFadden

L.White

F. Taylor

I think that's 24

Situations I just won't touch: OAK & SEA

 
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Off the cuff like FUBAR'sI tihnk these three guys are the safest to finish top-5LT ADPAddaiThese three are bordeline top-5, definite top-10WestbrookSjax PortisI could see some of these jumping into top-5, most being in top-10GoreR.GrantLynchMendenhallMcGaheeWillie Parker(Notice I have 12 RBs in the "top-10" because every year a few are either injured or something bizarre makes them fall off the earth)These are the "second round at best" RBs...R.BushTurnerMJDJamalFelix Jones These guys have plenty of risk, but likely will be the feature backs for their teamsLJ MB3 EdgeGuys that are probably sharing time, but will get the majority of the carries early in the season at leastT.HenryR.WilliamsMcFaddenL.WhiteF. TaylorI think that's 24Situations I just won't touch: OAK & SEA
no Ronnie Brown?
 
Here's my top 15, with explanations and last year's stats next to their names. It's important to point out that these aren't so much where I would draft them or even where I think they'll finish overall, but rather just my rankings based on comfort level and who I'd want on my team more than the next guy.

-----TIER 1: PLATINUM BACKS-----

01. Peterson, Adrian, RB, MIN [1341 YDS - 12 TDS]

- Minnesota's OLine is so sick and this kid is so talented that I feel like we might be in year-1 of ADP dominating the top draft spot for the next five or so years.

02. Tomlinson, Ladanian, RB, SD [1474 YDS - 15 TDS]

- By LT standards, last season might've been a disappointment, but he's still as sure a thing as there is in fantasy football. I take him here for peace of mind that I'll have a RB1 putting up RB1 numbers, regardless of where he finishes overall.

-----TIER 2: PURE GOLD-----

03. Addai, Joseph, RB, IND [1072 YDS - 12 TDS]

- Harrison is getting up there in age and becoming less and less of a redzone option, plus the Colts are going to be hungry this year. I don't expect him to finish first overall, but it's not out of the quesiton. Either way, he's a safe pick with low risk.

04. Portis, Clinton, RB, WAS [1262 YDS - 11 TDS]

- I REALLLLLY wanted to rank MB3 above Portis and kept flip-flopping between the two, but when push came to shove I still just felt safer with Portis despite his injury history. He (and the oline) seems to be healthy now, the WAS coaching staff is talking about using him even more this season, and all in all he's a pretty safe bet to produce similar to better than last year.

05. Barber, Marion, RB, DAL [975 YDS - 10 TDS]

- BUT, that said, what's NOT to like about MB3?! After a couple seasons of proving he's the better back than Jones, Barber is finally set to be the starter now. I'm probably ranking him a little higher here than most, but I really feel he's top-5 this year. He had good numbers last year with Julius cutting into his time, but can he carry the load? That's the only question mark and honestly, I'm not too concerned about it. I think he can and will.

06. Jackson, Steven, RB, STL [1002 YDS - 5 TDS]

- At one point I had Jackson at #3, but the more I looked at Portis, Addai and Barber the more I liked them. So SJ slips to #6 by no fault of his own. If healthy there's no reason he can't finish top-5 considering that he's the main option on that offense now. If STL somehow ended up with Jake Long at the two-spot then I'll find myself liking Jackson even more.

-----TIER 3: SOLID/RELIABLE-----

07. Westbrook, Brian, RB, PHI [1333 YDS - 7 TDS]

- Westbrook's a good all-purpose back, and definitely exceeded expectations last year. That said though, I get squeamish at the thought of having to rely on him to repeat that success. He has a history of injury and isn't getting any younger. All in all, he just scares me but I couldn't let him slip any further than 7th due to his performance last year and his upside this year. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him finish top-3 again, but closer to top-10 wouldn't shock me either. I have him this low due to that potential gap in where he COULD finish. Not as much of a sure thing as the guys above him in my mind.

08. Lewis, Jamal, RB, CLE [1304 YDS - 9 TDS]

- Last year Jamal surprised a lot of owners. Personally though, I'm in Cleveland and was expecting pretty much what we got out of him. It's easy to look at his year-end stats and be impressed, but we have to remember how awful his average yards per carry were for the first half of the season. That said though, he IS the starting RB and goalline RB on a strong offense and his team made a commitment to him this offseason. Last year he managed to outperform his ADP by scoring touchdowns, this year I think TDs will be what helps him just reach his ADP. All in all, I see a similar season to last year, but would set expectations with him as modestly-opptimistic. With the improvements to the defense and the O-line that the Browns made this offseason I'd think that an increase in his production isn't out of the question. He's this high on my list more for his situation than what he brings to the table.

09. McGahee,Willis, RB, BAL [1207 YDS - 7 TDS]

- Last year he was unspectacular but definitely consistent. There aren't a ton of other weapons in Baltimore's offense, so I'd expect more of the same from his this year. Which is nothing to complain about at all. I prefer a lot of the backs that I listed below him, but he gets bumped up my list for being a strong, reliable, safe bet.

-----TIER 4: A LITTLE RISKIER-----

10. Lynch, Marshawn, RB, BUF [1115 YDS - 7 TDS]

Lynch looked good last year... Better than I expected honestly. Despite him being a 2nd year back, I don't see any reason for regression. I'd feel comfortable with him on my roster for sure...

11. Grant, Ryan, RB, GB [956 YDS - 8 TDS]

- Like Lynch, looked GREAT last year but doesn't have the track record. He accomplished a lot in a shorter season. I like GB's oline a lot and if it weren't for Favre's retirement I may have Grant even higher. Lots of upside here, but again, he's not entirely proven over the long haul so there are some question marks as far as how his 2nd year starting will play out.

12. Gore, Frank, RB, SF [1102 YDS - 5 TDS]

- Gore's obviously a talented back, but last year his owners weren't rewarded for their high first round investments. Regardless, Mike Martz is in town now, so the question is – will Gore's value skyrocket? I lean towards, 'yep', but it's a big enough gamble that I don't think I could get myself to take him any earlier than this. He slips based on being too much a roll of the dice.

-----TIER 5: SWING-FOR-THE-FENCES-----

13. Brown, Ronnie, RB, MIA [602 YDS - 4 TDS]

- Speaking of rolling the dice, Ronnie Brown is intriguing this season. When Miami hired LT's offensive coordinator, Cam Cameron, in 2007 everyone wondered how it would affect Ronnie Brown's production. Well it didn't take long for us to see that it shot him through the roof and if it weren't for that ACL injury he'd probably be in everyone's top 3-4 this year easily. So where do you rank him now? I'm putting him here under the assumption that we'll hear he's around 80% when FF drafts are starting up.

14. Johnson, Larry, RB, KC [559 YDS - 3 TDS]

- After a disappointing 2007, LJ may or may not rebound. He's also still young, he's the main weapon on that offense and he's clearly talented... BUT, between the oline problems and injuries last year, I don't think I could possibly get myself to draft him any earlier than this. He's just too much of a gamble for me to rank much higher.

15a. White, LenDale, RB, TEN [1110 YDS - 7 TDS]

- LenDale didn't exactly tear it up, but he did slug his way to a respectable season. He seems like a safe bet to put up similar numbers to last year... I wouldn't want to bet the farm on him, but he seems reliable to produce.

15b. Jones-Drew, Maurice, RB, JAX [768 YDS - 9 TDS]

- MJD proved a disappointment last year for those who took him REALLY early, but all in all he had a good season. Fred Taylor obviously went insane and had a great year, but he isn't getting younger and MJD IS the goalline back... Either way Jones-Drew is a solid pick with some decent upside and as much as I'd like to rank him higher, the question of Fred Taylor makes me nervous enough to keep him this low.

 
Frankbot said:
Here's my top 15, with explanations and last year's stats next to their names. It's important to point out that these aren't so much where I would draft them or even where I think they'll finish overall, but rather just my rankings based on comfort level and who I'd want on my team more than the next guy.

-----TIER 1: PLATINUM BACKS-----

01. Peterson, Adrian, RB, MIN [1341 YDS - 12 TDS]

- Minnesota's OLine is so sick and this kid is so talented that I feel like we might be in year-1 of ADP dominating the top draft spot for the next five or so years.

02. Tomlinson, Ladanian, RB, SD [1474 YDS - 15 TDS]

- By LT standards, last season might've been a disappointment, but he's still as sure a thing as there is in fantasy football. I take him here for peace of mind that I'll have a RB1 putting up RB1 numbers, regardless of where he finishes overall.

-----TIER 2: PURE GOLD-----

03. Addai, Joseph, RB, IND [1072 YDS - 12 TDS]

- Harrison is getting up there in age and becoming less and less of a redzone option, plus the Colts are going to be hungry this year. I don't expect him to finish first overall, but it's not out of the quesiton. Either way, he's a safe pick with low risk.

04. Portis, Clinton, RB, WAS [1262 YDS - 11 TDS]

- I REALLLLLY wanted to rank MB3 above Portis and kept flip-flopping between the two, but when push came to shove I still just felt safer with Portis despite his injury history. He (and the oline) seems to be healthy now, the WAS coaching staff is talking about using him even more this season, and all in all he's a pretty safe bet to produce similar to better than last year.

05. Barber, Marion, RB, DAL [975 YDS - 10 TDS]

- BUT, that said, what's NOT to like about MB3?! After a couple seasons of proving he's the better back than Jones, Barber is finally set to be the starter now. I'm probably ranking him a little higher here than most, but I really feel he's top-5 this year. He had good numbers last year with Julius cutting into his time, but can he carry the load? That's the only question mark and honestly, I'm not too concerned about it. I think he can and will.

06. Jackson, Steven, RB, STL [1002 YDS - 5 TDS]

- At one point I had Jackson at #3, but the more I looked at Portis, Addai and Barber the more I liked them. So SJ slips to #6 by no fault of his own. If healthy there's no reason he can't finish top-5 considering that he's the main option on that offense now. If STL somehow ended up with Jake Long at the two-spot then I'll find myself liking Jackson even more.

-----TIER 3: SOLID/RELIABLE-----

07. Westbrook, Brian, RB, PHI [1333 YDS - 7 TDS]

- Westbrook's a good all-purpose back, and definitely exceeded expectations last year. That said though, I get squeamish at the thought of having to rely on him to repeat that success. He has a history of injury and isn't getting any younger. All in all, he just scares me but I couldn't let him slip any further than 7th due to his performance last year and his upside this year. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him finish top-3 again, but closer to top-10 wouldn't shock me either. I have him this low due to that potential gap in where he COULD finish. Not as much of a sure thing as the guys above him in my mind.

08. Lewis, Jamal, RB, CLE [1304 YDS - 9 TDS]

- Last year Jamal surprised a lot of owners. Personally though, I'm in Cleveland and was expecting pretty much what we got out of him. It's easy to look at his year-end stats and be impressed, but we have to remember how awful his average yards per carry were for the first half of the season. That said though, he IS the starting RB and goalline RB on a strong offense and his team made a commitment to him this offseason. Last year he managed to outperform his ADP by scoring touchdowns, this year I think TDs will be what helps him just reach his ADP. All in all, I see a similar season to last year, but would set expectations with him as modestly-opptimistic. With the improvements to the defense and the O-line that the Browns made this offseason I'd think that an increase in his production isn't out of the question. He's this high on my list more for his situation than what he brings to the table.

09. McGahee,Willis, RB, BAL [1207 YDS - 7 TDS]

- Last year he was unspectacular but definitely consistent. There aren't a ton of other weapons in Baltimore's offense, so I'd expect more of the same from his this year. Which is nothing to complain about at all. I prefer a lot of the backs that I listed below him, but he gets bumped up my list for being a strong, reliable, safe bet.

-----TIER 4: A LITTLE RISKIER-----

10. Lynch, Marshawn, RB, BUF [1115 YDS - 7 TDS]

Lynch looked good last year... Better than I expected honestly. Despite him being a 2nd year back, I don't see any reason for regression. I'd feel comfortable with him on my roster for sure...

11. Grant, Ryan, RB, GB [956 YDS - 8 TDS]

- Like Lynch, looked GREAT last year but doesn't have the track record. He accomplished a lot in a shorter season. I like GB's oline a lot and if it weren't for Favre's retirement I may have Grant even higher. Lots of upside here, but again, he's not entirely proven over the long haul so there are some question marks as far as how his 2nd year starting will play out.

12. Gore, Frank, RB, SF [1102 YDS - 5 TDS]

- Gore's obviously a talented back, but last year his owners weren't rewarded for their high first round investments. Regardless, Mike Martz is in town now, so the question is – will Gore's value skyrocket? I lean towards, 'yep', but it's a big enough gamble that I don't think I could get myself to take him any earlier than this. He slips based on being too much a roll of the dice.

-----TIER 5: SWING-FOR-THE-FENCES-----

13. Brown, Ronnie, RB, MIA [602 YDS - 4 TDS]

- Speaking of rolling the dice, Ronnie Brown is intriguing this season. When Miami hired LT's offensive coordinator, Cam Cameron, in 2007 everyone wondered how it would affect Ronnie Brown's production. Well it didn't take long for us to see that it shot him through the roof and if it weren't for that ACL injury he'd probably be in everyone's top 3-4 this year easily. So where do you rank him now? I'm putting him here under the assumption that we'll hear he's around 80% when FF drafts are starting up.

14. Johnson, Larry, RB, KC [559 YDS - 3 TDS]

- After a disappointing 2007, LJ may or may not rebound. He's also still young, he's the main weapon on that offense and he's clearly talented... BUT, between the oline problems and injuries last year, I don't think I could possibly get myself to draft him any earlier than this. He's just too much of a gamble for me to rank much higher.

15a. White, LenDale, RB, TEN [1110 YDS - 7 TDS]

- LenDale didn't exactly tear it up, but he did slug his way to a respectable season. He seems like a safe bet to put up similar numbers to last year... I wouldn't want to bet the farm on him, but he seems reliable to produce.

15b. Jones-Drew, Maurice, RB, JAX [768 YDS - 9 TDS]

- MJD proved a disappointment last year for those who took him REALLY early, but all in all he had a good season. Fred Taylor obviously went insane and had a great year, but he isn't getting younger and MJD IS the goalline back... Either way Jones-Drew is a solid pick with some decent upside and as much as I'd like to rank him higher, the question of Fred Taylor makes me nervous enough to keep him this low.
I really like your list, except I would consider Gore too low. Based on talent, I think there are (3) guys who could reach your "Platinum" status. SJax, MB3 and Frank Gore.
 
1. ADP4. Julius Jones12. LT17. Fred Taylor18. Pierre Thomas21. Gore 24. Ricky Williams25. Sproles
This is pretty bad.
:excited: Highlighted a couple I was confused about.
how in the hell is sproles going to end up the #25 FF RB on the bench
He thinks LT will slow down or get injured, therefore Sproles stepping in and playing wellI like the rankings Since I have some of the players that are rated high
 
Frankbot said:
Here's my top 15, with explanations and last year's stats next to their names. It's important to point out that these aren't so much where I would draft them or even where I think they'll finish overall, but rather just my rankings based on comfort level and who I'd want on my team more than the next guy.

05. Barber, Marion, RB, DAL [975 YDS - 10 TDS]

- BUT, that said, what's NOT to like about MB3?! After a couple seasons of proving he's the better back than Jones, Barber is finally set to be the starter now. I'm probably ranking him a little higher here than most, but I really feel he's top-5 this year. He had good numbers last year with Julius cutting into his time, but can he carry the load? That's the only question mark and honestly, I'm not too concerned about it. I think he can and will.

06. Jackson, Steven, RB, STL [1002 YDS - 5 TDS]

- At one point I had Jackson at #3, but the more I looked at Portis, Addai and Barber the more I liked them. So SJ slips to #6 by no fault of his own. If healthy there's no reason he can't finish top-5 considering that he's the main option on that offense now. If STL somehow ended up with Jake Long at the two-spot then I'll find myself liking Jackson even more.
I traded away Steven Jackson for MBIII in return last year. I like your rankings.
 
1. ADP4. Julius Jones12. LT17. Fred Taylor18. Pierre Thomas21. Gore 24. Ricky Williams25. Sproles
This is pretty bad.
:bag: Highlighted a couple I was confused about.
how in the hell is sproles going to end up the #25 FF RB on the bench
He thinks LT will slow down or get injured, therefore Sproles stepping in and playing wellI like the rankings Since I have some of the players that are rated high
i think he just finished of a bottle of jack :( before he did these rankings
 
1. ADP

2. Sjax

3. LJ

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

6. Portis

7. Westbrook

8. Addai

9. Lynch

10. Parker

11. Jacobs

12. LT

13. R.Grant

14. McFadden

15. Graham

16. Jamal

17. Fred Taylor

18. Pierre Thomas

19. Maroney

20. Turner

21. Gore

22. McGahee

23. Edge

24. Ricky Williams

25. Sproles

this is finally the year LT wears down. :(

LJ bounces back in a BIG way in Chan Gailey's offense.

Bush isn't even mentioned, Pierre Thomas takes over the #1 RB role in N.O.

Frank Gore's hip injury and the fact that the Martz offenses seem less inclined to run the ball vs. passes to the RB's, drops him all the way to 20 IMO..McFadden should start from day one.

MJD is not ready for prime time, its still Fred Taylor's job.

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..

Ricky Williams is a long shot, but I had to include him , in no way will Ronnie Brown be ready for opening day, and he'll likely miss at least 1/2 of the 2008 season. Williams will probably be in the best shape of his life, and will likely get a healthy dose of carries in the Dan Henning offense Miami will utilize ( if they keep him,that is :bag: )

Sproles breaks into the top 25 because he's the de facto `backup with the most upside in the NFL` if the starter (LT) goes down.
This is pretty bad.
I think I disagree here. NOT THAT I AGREE WITH THIS LIST, but I love the fact that he's thinking outside the norm. The top 20 RB's after the 2008-2009 season will be nothing like the average pre-season rankings (as history has shown us time and time again). I'm sure if someone put Graham and Grant in the top 20 last year pre season, and LJ outside the top 20, you would have all been calling him an idiot too.
Nothing wrong about thinking outside the box... But do it within reason... this guy is STILL convinced Gore has a degenerative hip injury (April fools was over 3 days ago... but I've got a bag of dirt for sale if you're interested)Look at what I highlighted...

1. So LJ is going to bounce back hey? The fact that they have no OL, no QB, and that LJ's condition was very serious last year...

2. Bush isn't even mentioned? Even as a #2 back he will get 70+ receptions... which even in a no PPR league he's still posting 1000+ combined yards...

3. Frank Gore... like I said, I've got a bag of dirt for sale if this poster's interested... Gore's injury all last year was an ankle injury. He does not have a hip injury or condition.

4. Julius Jones, Duckett, Alexander, Maurice Morris... he thinks Jones is going to emerge from ALL of those guys to post top 5 stats? I'll have what he's having (kid, their OL is half of what it was when Alexander went nuts)

5. He admitted that Ricky Williams was a long shot... :lmao: I think Ricky Williams is the least long shot of all of those guys I talked about!!!!

There's a difference between being just plain stupid and taking risks on your rankings... this guy is just plain stupid

EDIT: Thinking outside the box is putting LJ's backup at around 19th, J. Jones on that list, but not top 5... #18 seems more likely. I can live with the LT downgrade, but not that far... he's got the right idea, just taken it to a ridiculous extreme...
people that think outside the box are routinely called idiots, including lots of innovators in world history . . . again, some people said LJ was going to bust last year, but several "experts" said that you'd be crazy to pass up LJ at #3 . . .

 
Frankbot said:
Here's my top 15, with explanations and last year's stats next to their names. It's important to point out that these aren't so much where I would draft them or even where I think they'll finish overall, but rather just my rankings based on comfort level and who I'd want on my team more than the next guy.

-----TIER 1: PLATINUM BACKS-----

01. Peterson, Adrian, RB, MIN [1341 YDS - 12 TDS]

- Minnesota's OLine is so sick and this kid is so talented that I feel like we might be in year-1 of ADP dominating the top draft spot for the next five or so years.

02. Tomlinson, Ladanian, RB, SD [1474 YDS - 15 TDS]

- By LT standards, last season might've been a disappointment, but he's still as sure a thing as there is in fantasy football. I take him here for peace of mind that I'll have a RB1 putting up RB1 numbers, regardless of where he finishes overall.

-----TIER 2: PURE GOLD-----

03. Addai, Joseph, RB, IND [1072 YDS - 12 TDS]

- Harrison is getting up there in age and becoming less and less of a redzone option, plus the Colts are going to be hungry this year. I don't expect him to finish first overall, but it's not out of the quesiton. Either way, he's a safe pick with low risk.

04. Portis, Clinton, RB, WAS [1262 YDS - 11 TDS]

- I REALLLLLY wanted to rank MB3 above Portis and kept flip-flopping between the two, but when push came to shove I still just felt safer with Portis despite his injury history. He (and the oline) seems to be healthy now, the WAS coaching staff is talking about using him even more this season, and all in all he's a pretty safe bet to produce similar to better than last year.

05. Barber, Marion, RB, DAL [975 YDS - 10 TDS]

- BUT, that said, what's NOT to like about MB3?! After a couple seasons of proving he's the better back than Jones, Barber is finally set to be the starter now. I'm probably ranking him a little higher here than most, but I really feel he's top-5 this year. He had good numbers last year with Julius cutting into his time, but can he carry the load? That's the only question mark and honestly, I'm not too concerned about it. I think he can and will.

06. Jackson, Steven, RB, STL [1002 YDS - 5 TDS]

- At one point I had Jackson at #3, but the more I looked at Portis, Addai and Barber the more I liked them. So SJ slips to #6 by no fault of his own. If healthy there's no reason he can't finish top-5 considering that he's the main option on that offense now. If STL somehow ended up with Jake Long at the two-spot then I'll find myself liking Jackson even more.

-----TIER 3: SOLID/RELIABLE-----

07. Westbrook, Brian, RB, PHI [1333 YDS - 7 TDS]

- Westbrook's a good all-purpose back, and definitely exceeded expectations last year. That said though, I get squeamish at the thought of having to rely on him to repeat that success. He has a history of injury and isn't getting any younger. All in all, he just scares me but I couldn't let him slip any further than 7th due to his performance last year and his upside this year. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him finish top-3 again, but closer to top-10 wouldn't shock me either. I have him this low due to that potential gap in where he COULD finish. Not as much of a sure thing as the guys above him in my mind.

08. Lewis, Jamal, RB, CLE [1304 YDS - 9 TDS]

- Last year Jamal surprised a lot of owners. Personally though, I'm in Cleveland and was expecting pretty much what we got out of him. It's easy to look at his year-end stats and be impressed, but we have to remember how awful his average yards per carry were for the first half of the season. That said though, he IS the starting RB and goalline RB on a strong offense and his team made a commitment to him this offseason. Last year he managed to outperform his ADP by scoring touchdowns, this year I think TDs will be what helps him just reach his ADP. All in all, I see a similar season to last year, but would set expectations with him as modestly-opptimistic. With the improvements to the defense and the O-line that the Browns made this offseason I'd think that an increase in his production isn't out of the question. He's this high on my list more for his situation than what he brings to the table.

09. McGahee,Willis, RB, BAL [1207 YDS - 7 TDS]

- Last year he was unspectacular but definitely consistent. There aren't a ton of other weapons in Baltimore's offense, so I'd expect more of the same from his this year. Which is nothing to complain about at all. I prefer a lot of the backs that I listed below him, but he gets bumped up my list for being a strong, reliable, safe bet.

-----TIER 4: A LITTLE RISKIER-----

10. Lynch, Marshawn, RB, BUF [1115 YDS - 7 TDS]

Lynch looked good last year... Better than I expected honestly. Despite him being a 2nd year back, I don't see any reason for regression. I'd feel comfortable with him on my roster for sure...

11. Grant, Ryan, RB, GB [956 YDS - 8 TDS]

- Like Lynch, looked GREAT last year but doesn't have the track record. He accomplished a lot in a shorter season. I like GB's oline a lot and if it weren't for Favre's retirement I may have Grant even higher. Lots of upside here, but again, he's not entirely proven over the long haul so there are some question marks as far as how his 2nd year starting will play out.

12. Gore, Frank, RB, SF [1102 YDS - 5 TDS]

- Gore's obviously a talented back, but last year his owners weren't rewarded for their high first round investments. Regardless, Mike Martz is in town now, so the question is  will Gore's value skyrocket? I lean towards, 'yep', but it's a big enough gamble that I don't think I could get myself to take him any earlier than this. He slips based on being too much a roll of the dice.

-----TIER 5: SWING-FOR-THE-FENCES-----

13. Brown, Ronnie, RB, MIA [602 YDS - 4 TDS]

- Speaking of rolling the dice, Ronnie Brown is intriguing this season. When Miami hired LT's offensive coordinator, Cam Cameron, in 2007 everyone wondered how it would affect Ronnie Brown's production. Well it didn't take long for us to see that it shot him through the roof and if it weren't for that ACL injury he'd probably be in everyone's top 3-4 this year easily. So where do you rank him now? I'm putting him here under the assumption that we'll hear he's around 80% when FF drafts are starting up.

14. Johnson, Larry, RB, KC [559 YDS - 3 TDS]

- After a disappointing 2007, LJ may or may not rebound. He's also still young, he's the main weapon on that offense and he's clearly talented... BUT, between the oline problems and injuries last year, I don't think I could possibly get myself to draft him any earlier than this. He's just too much of a gamble for me to rank much higher.

15a. White, LenDale, RB, TEN [1110 YDS - 7 TDS]

- LenDale didn't exactly tear it up, but he did slug his way to a respectable season. He seems like a safe bet to put up similar numbers to last year... I wouldn't want to bet the farm on him, but he seems reliable to produce.

15b. Jones-Drew, Maurice, RB, JAX [768 YDS - 9 TDS]

- MJD proved a disappointment last year for those who took him REALLY early, but all in all he had a good season. Fred Taylor obviously went insane and had a great year, but he isn't getting younger and MJD IS the goalline back... Either way Jones-Drew is a solid pick with some decent upside and as much as I'd like to rank him higher, the question of Fred Taylor makes me nervous enough to keep him this low.
:( I really like your list. One name that I kept looking for ranked higher throughout this thread is Jamal Lewis. He should have a year as good as last year again with Cleveland adding no new competition and Stallworth being added will make teams have to cover Edwards, Stallworth, and Winslow leaving safeties back and Jamal to run against minimum resistance up front.

I like MJD ranked here as I am not nearly as high on him as everyone else, especially with Fred still in town. I am not entirely convinced that Jax wants to have MJD carry the ball 25 times per game. (just gut feeling, of course)

Another player I think will be ranked much higher next year is Brandon Jacobs. I realize he struggled with little injuries last year, but that comes from him running so hard down hill. Hopefully they can teach him to learn when it is time to "fall" forward for one more yard rather than "fighting" for that same yard and risking injury. Based on weekly averages he was nearly top ten last year. Bradshaw will eat a few carries, but I think this will help Jacobs much more than hurt him. I see Jacobs with 18-22 carries per game and Bradshaw/Ward with 8-12 combined. I would bump Lendale White from the above list and place Jacobs at 15, moving MJD to 14.

 
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I like MJD ranked here as I am not nearly as high on him as everyone else, especially with Fred still in town. I am not entirely convinced that Jax wants to have MJD carry the ball 25 times per game. (just gut feeling, of course)
I have not been the world's biggest MJD fan, but he has ranked 8th and 13th in his two years in the league.Seeing how that's what's ranked so far without having 25 carries a game, logic would tand to dictate that if he ever did get more work he would rank even higher than he has in the past. The unknown here is if Taylor slows down or gets a lesser workload as to whether that workload would go to MJD, so that's more of the issue for me in ranking him way higher than in that 10-15 bandwidth.
 
gore should be up where graham is, LT should fall no further than 8, and J. jones really should not be considered, and P. thomas should not be in there it should be atleast deuce, cause the only way thomas will make it that big is if both bush and deuce go down. other than that i like tanner 9919's list it is different. frankbot's is a bit too reliant on potential and almost overlooks the production of last year, but i can understand it. i just do not like SJAX that much. he got hurt alot last year first time as a starter, and that oline is not what it used to be. you are right if he gets long than he should be fine, if not than he will probably have a rough year again. i love reading all the different lists it has been great to get other peoples opinions.

 
gore should be up where graham is, LT should fall no further than 8, and J. jones really should not be considered, and P. thomas should not be in there it should be atleast deuce, cause the only way thomas will make it that big is if both bush and deuce go down. other than that i like tanner 9919's list it is different. frankbot's is a bit too reliant on potential and almost overlooks the production of last year, but i can understand it. i just do not like SJAX that much. he got hurt alot last year first time as a starter, and that oline is not what it used to be. you are right if he gets long than he should be fine, if not than he will probably have a rough year again. i love reading all the different lists it has been great to get other peoples opinions.
I think his projections do a nice job of considering potential based in part off of last year's production. I think that should be the basis for anyone's rankings. Although Tanner9919 clearly marches to the beat of his own drum. The reason that rankings are not entirely different this time of year is because of the potential/production criteria used. We don't have a whole lot more to go on at this point. Gut feelings will have a few guys higher and lower, but for the most part, the same names will be featured.
 
I really like your list. One name that I kept looking for ranked higher throughout this thread is Jamal Lewis. He should have a year as good as last year again with Cleveland adding no new competition and Stallworth being added will make teams have to cover Edwards, Stallworth, and Winslow leaving safeties back and Jamal to run against minimum resistance up front.
I like Jamal as well, but I see him more as a #2 FF RB - with low #1 potential. I would not take him highly, but I would not be surprised to see him finish in the 10-12 range. I think the big question with Lewis, and where he ends up is TDs, not yards.
I like MJD ranked here as I am not nearly as high on him as everyone else, especially with Fred still in town. I am not entirely convinced that Jax wants to have MJD carry the ball 25 times per game. (just gut feeling, of course)
I am in the minority that agree with you. However, MJD has proven he can finish overall pretty highly, even while splitting time. I would never want him on my team, as week to week, he is as up and down as a roller coaster. But if you are in a total points league, he's a good RB to look for in the draft.
Another player I think will be ranked much higher next year is Brandon Jacobs. I realize he struggled with little injuries last year, but that comes from him running so hard down hill. Hopefully they can teach him to learn when it is time to "fall" forward for one more yard rather than "fighting" for that same yard and risking injury. Based on weekly averages he was nearly top ten last year. Bradshaw will eat a few carries, but I think this will help Jacobs much more than hurt him. I see Jacobs with 18-22 carries per game and Bradshaw/Ward with 8-12 combined. I would bump Lendale White from the above list and place Jacobs at 15, moving MJD to 14.
My big problem with Jacobs is that he is one of three RBs the Giants want to use regularly. And he just isn't going to put up a ton of points in that situation.
 
4. Julius Jones

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..
Seattle's line is no longer dominant and we have no idea what the RB rotation will be. JJ will compile the yards, but he may be on the sidelines on 3rd downs in favor of Maurice Morris (if he is still around) who I feel has better hands than JJ and is more familiar with offense (to be able to pick up the blitz). Also, you can't forget about Duckett, who's role is currently undefined but he may end up being a goal line vulture. Too many question marks to even think about having JJ as your RB1.
 
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4. Julius Jones

Julius Jones should be an absolute MONSTER in Seattle, with THAT o-line, and that offensive prowess..he should easily compile some 1400 yards rushing and double digit TDs..
Seattle's line is no longer dominant and we have no idea what the RB rotation will be. JJ make compile yards, but he may be on the sidelines on 3rd downs in favor of Maurice Morris (if he is still around) who I feel has better hands than JJ and is more familiar with offense (to be able to pick up the blitz). Also, you can't forget about Duckett, who's role is currently undefined but he may end up being a goal line vulture. Too many question marks to even think about having JJ as your RB1.
Add in that in deep draft, it is not totally unbelievable that SEA may end up seeing an RB that they can't help but draft at their pick.
 

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