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RBs to Exploit-Avoid Week 14 (1 Viewer)

On CAR running game: I couldn't find any recent news on Goodson's shoulder injury or his practice this week. But, that being said, what I read was that he didn't start last week and it had nothing to do with injury. I think Stewart is a moderately good play this week because I think he will get the majority of the touches and the offense seems to be running the ball better than early in the season. I guess if CAR falls behind and has to pass alot, maybe they will give up on Stewart--that's the risk. But given how CAR has been playing better I wouldn't be surprised to see a close game. I think Stewart is a moderately good start but not Goodson.

 
heres a quote from Evan Silva regarding Turner the Burner:

The Falcons project to dominate this game on the ground. Due to myriad injuries, the Panthers' linebacker group is in shambles with MLB Jon Beason the latest to come down with an injury (knee). Carolina ranks 27th against the run and has permitted the third most rushing scores in the NFC. Only the Bills, Broncos, and Cardinals have more rushing attempts against, confirming that opponents know exactly where to attack coordinator Ron Meeks' defense. A red-hot Michael Turner will again not have Jason Snelling (hamstring) to "compete" with for running back snaps.
I love it. Might turn me from red to black, maybe even green, keep it coming guys.
No offense MOP, but the fact that you didnt know this stuff already makes me question the rest of your rankings. What were you basing your original thoughts of turner on?
I always encourage well thought out posts. I do feel Atlanta is due for a letdown. This season other than the Pats(even they had 1) most teams have had some letdowns. As I mentioned FBG has him outside the top10-12, that could change but I think Turner typically is not the same back on the road that he is in the Dome. Not always but he has struggled at times.

I wouldn't be a very good owner if I didn't have an open mind and I thought that poster had some good info to share.
FBG has him higher than that.

I agree the Falcons will have a letdown this week. I will even take it one step further, i think the Panthers might actually win. Either way though, the Panthers run D is pretty bad, and Turner is pretty good, so he should get his. I could see the Panthers maybe keying on the run, and maybe holding him to a below average day, but as long as Roddy White is playing, i cant see a defense like the Panthers preventing Turner from at least 90 yards and a TD.
PPR
 
On CAR running game: I couldn't find any recent news on Goodson's shoulder injury or his practice this week. But, that being said, what I read was that he didn't start last week and it had nothing to do with injury. I think Stewart is a moderately good play this week because I think he will get the majority of the touches and the offense seems to be running the ball better than early in the season. I guess if CAR falls behind and has to pass alot, maybe they will give up on Stewart--that's the risk. But given how CAR has been playing better I wouldn't be surprised to see a close game. I think Stewart is a moderately good start but not Goodson.
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What's the take on Starks this week vs. Lions? I'm starting him since my alternatives ain't great, but I do see some real upside with him.
Theres a good chance I roll with Starks as well. Lions DL is very fierce @ pass rushing. Packers would do well to keep them off balance with Starks or Jackson. Starks is clearly a better option running the ball, only concern is his ability on passing plays.
 
Be prepared for Blount owners to tear you up.
Outside of Arizona he has not had a great rushing game on the road, at least in terms of FF points.
It's hard not to be impressed with Blount after his matchup last week was universally labeled horrible against an ATL run D that gives up little.The matchup this week is beyond sweet. Furthermore, Mike Williams is a tad banged up. Against a Wash team that is mailing it in, Blount's upside could be 2-3 TDs this week. TB may not need to pass.KY
 
My fault, i didnt know you were refering to PPR.
Let me ask you this GD.Turner vs FJax?

Turner vs McFadden?

Turner vs Moreno?

I think FBG has them all a little higher than Turner except FJax, would you start any of them over Turner? I'm sure some folks are dealing wit these scenarios.
I have turner at #4 in my top 30 RB rankings this week. I have Moreno at 8, Jackson ahead of Mcfadden, both just outside the top 10.Thats in non-ppr however, in ppr, i would say the gap between those 4 is minimal. I might have Moreno just ahead of Turner and the other two guys just behind them.

 
heres a quote from Evan Silva regarding Turner the Burner:The Falcons project to dominate this game on the ground. Due to myriad injuries, the Panthers' linebacker group is in shambles with MLB Jon Beason the latest to come down with an injury (knee). Carolina ranks 27th against the run and has permitted the third most rushing scores in the NFC. Only the Bills, Broncos, and Cardinals have more rushing attempts against, confirming that opponents know exactly where to attack coordinator Ron Meeks' defense. A red-hot Michael Turner will again not have Jason Snelling (hamstring) to "compete" with for running back snaps.
I love it. Might turn me from red to black, maybe even green, keep it coming guys.
No offense MOP, but the fact that you didnt know this stuff already makes me question the rest of your rankings. What were you basing your original thoughts of turner on?
I always encourage well thought out posts. I do feel Atlanta is due for a letdown. This season other than the Pats(even they had 1) most teams have had some letdowns. As I mentioned FBG has him outside the top10-12, that could change but I think Turner typically is not the same back on the road that he is in the Dome. Not always but he has struggled at times. I wouldn't be a very good owner if I didn't have an open mind and I thought that poster had some good info to share.
FBG has him higher than that. I agree the Falcons will have a letdown this week. I will even take it one step further, i think the Panthers might actually win. Either way though, the Panthers run D is pretty bad, and Turner is pretty good, so he should get his. I could see the Panthers maybe keying on the run, and maybe holding him to a below average day, but as long as Roddy White is playing, i cant see a defense like the Panthers preventing Turner from at least 90 yards and a TD.
It will also be raining with some wind all day Sunday in Charlotte. Bumpity bump...
 
If you ever decide to write a paper about obesity among NFL Fantasy Players look me up MoP, i'd be a perfect case study.

 
It will also be raining with some wind all day Sunday in Charlotte. Bumpity bump...
What does that mean? Neither team can throw the ball? How does that make an advantage for Turner?
Much of Atlanta's production this year has come through the air as opposed to previous years with Ryan. They may be more inclined to deviate from that this week in less than optimal conditions. Ryan is one attempt from top 5 this year so far.
 
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Ministry of Pain said:


Seattle at San Fran

Lynch – 3 TDs last week, probably a farce. He has not been consistent most of the year, patchwork OL of sorts. Seattle also is not a very good road team. Lynch is barely gaining 3.5 ypc, maybe not even that.



St Louis at New Orleans

Steven Jackson – How come with a solid passing game can't SJax get loose a little more often? Frustrating for owners I'm sure.



Denver at Arizona

Knowshon Moreno – Maybe the new coach(Rooney Rule-cough) will be able to get a little more out of him. Moreno has had some moments for owners the past many weeks but it remains to be seen what happens to the offense now.
Remember, Lynch's 3TD last week came against CAR......so Turner could be in for a big day as well.SJ - Haven't seen many of his games.....Anybody know why he hasn't busted any long runs?......is it b/c the WRs aren't very good run blockers?

KM - Zona is horrid against the run & may have a new qb.......seems like a good day for Moreno (even tho I'm not a fan of his)

 
I think J stew is a very good play this week.ATL run defense yards allowed in their 4 outside games this year:@ Pitt-143 Yds, @ Clev-48 Yds, @ Philly-154 Yds, and @ TB-151 YdsCarolina's run offense the last 3 games: Vs Seattle 131 yds, Vs Cleveland 151 yds, Vs Baltimore 120 ydsLooking at this last week pushed me to start Blount against Atl.

az_prof said:
On CAR running game: I couldn't find any recent news on Goodson's shoulder injury or his practice this week. But, that being said, what I read was that he didn't start last week and it had nothing to do with injury. I think Stewart is a moderately good play this week because I think he will get the majority of the touches and the offense seems to be running the ball better than early in the season. I guess if CAR falls behind and has to pass alot, maybe they will give up on Stewart--that's the risk. But given how CAR has been playing better I wouldn't be surprised to see a close game. I think Stewart is a moderately good start but not Goodson.
 
montana_grizzly_bears said:
Having to roll Forte and Choice this weekend as Best isn't going to be useful against GB. Hopefully the Bears defense contains Brady and keeps Chicago in the game so Forte gets some chances to run.
I think the crappy weather Sunday will contain Brady along with just about everybody else!!!
 
Moreno has to be considered one of the best starts this week. He is top 10 in ppg in non ppr leagues, and he plays against Arizona, one of the worst run defenses. Not sure how this could be viewed as anything but a great matchup and one of the premier starts this week. He has been great when he is healthy this year.

I guarantee no less than 15 fantasy points in non ppr leagues.

Turner is also a great start. At least a touchdown in five of his last 6 games (7 total over that time). Carolina is still Carolina, one of the worst teams in the NFL. Atlanta is still one of the best teams in the NFL. I'll go with the odds rather than MoP's gut feeling that Atlanta will have a let down game. Atlanta is one game up on New Orleans right now. They don't have the luxury of a let down game. I just don't see any reason they won't be ready to roll this Sunday. Either way you slice it, it is a huge reach to have him marked as a RB to avoid this week. Even if you end up right.... it was a mistake not to start him. Kind of like it would be a mistake to ever bench your 1st round pick and one of the most explosive RBs in the league (Chris Johnson). If the premise is that other teams have had let down games so Atlanta will as well... maybe, but they are also one of the most balanced team in the NFL. A lot of 'let down' games are due to teams having glaring weaknesses, or lacking balance, causing certain defenses and game plans to shut them down. I just see no actual logical reason that will be the case with this game.

Along those same lines, start Arian Foster without hesitation over any other RB. Don't overthink this. For instance, Ray Rice in green, but Foster in black? Who in their right mind is starting Rice over Foster?

 
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Silver & Black said:
Very cool, thanks.It's the playoffs so I won't even try to be subtle about my next question. I see you gave the green light to Bradshaw and not Foster. Clearly, the no green light for Foster is based on his matchup with a tough Raven defense.I have Peterson, Foster and Bradshaw and can start two. With the news of a wrist injury to Bradshaw, I was firmly set to go with AP and Foster. Now, I am not so sure. Thoughts?
Don't overthink this. Peterson and Foster are the best two RBs in the league. You ride them to whatever end, and don't regret it if it doesn't work out. You will be seriously regretting benching either of those two for Bradshaw if it costs you the game.
 
footballnerd said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Go deep said:
Be prepared for Blount owners to tear you up.
Outside of Arizona he has not had a great rushing game on the road, at least in terms of FF points.
He needs a lead to get a heavy dose of carries, which has a good chance of happening vs WAS. so I can see 20 carries and 100 yds and maybe a TD.
How many career starts does Blount have? He has been a part of the offense for all of 4 total away games, and has been successful in one. Kind of a small sample size to be using as evidence that he isn't going to be effective on the road. I just don't see how that sample size of past performance can in be used as a predictor of future performance. If you are like the guy above with Foster, Peterson, and Bradshaw, fine, bench Blount. But most teams aren't in that situation. I could see him having at least 75 yds and TD, and I think Tampa wins that game, which should translate to success for Blount.
 
Chris Ivory – Betts on IR, Thomas still out, Reggie Bush probably not 100%...Ivory has been 11th overall the last 3 weeks. You do the math. This is a big game and NO must win to try and keep pace with Atlanta.
no, thomas is not out, all indications are he will play. doesnt really matter, ivory is still a fantastic play imo, and is underrated by most prognosticators who have him lower than guys like forte.anyway, i think you are off on turner, tho its hard to find a clear indication of your position. presumably you would start greens over blacks over reds. in that case you are way off on foster for sure as well. back to turner, panthers have been getting gashed on the ground. sea went for 162/3, cle for 145/3, balt 93/1, tb 153/2, no 149/1. snelling is unlikely to play so that is a few more carries for turner.

 
Moreno has to be considered one of the best starts this week. He is top 10 in ppg in non ppr leagues, and he plays against Arizona, one of the worst run defenses. Not sure how this could be viewed as anything but a great matchup and one of the premier starts this week. He has been great when he is healthy this year.

I guarantee no less than 15 fantasy points in non ppr leagues.

Turner is also a great start. At least a touchdown in five of his last 6 games (7 total over that time). Carolina is still Carolina, one of the worst teams in the NFL. Atlanta is still one of the best teams in the NFL. I'll go with the odds rather than MoP's gut feeling that Atlanta will have a let down game. Atlanta is one game up on New Orleans right now. They don't have the luxury of a let down game. I just don't see any reason they won't be ready to roll this Sunday. Either way you slice it, it is a huge reach to have him marked as a RB to avoid this week. Even if you end up right.... it was a mistake not to start him. Kind of like it would be a mistake to ever bench your 1st round pick and one of the most explosive RBs in the league (Chris Johnson). If the premise is that other teams have had let down games so Atlanta will as well... maybe, but they are also one of the most balanced team in the NFL. A lot of 'let down' games are due to teams having glaring weaknesses, or lacking balance, causing certain defenses and game plans to shut them down. I just see no actual logical reason that will be the case with this game.

Along those same lines, start Arian Foster without hesitation over any other RB. Don't overthink this. For instance, Ray Rice in green, but Foster in black? Who in their right mind is starting Rice over Foster?
Incredible way to say that whether the OP is right not that he's wrong. There's really no reason in reasoning with you :thumbup: Keeper and dyansty leagues you could easily have someone with a trio pf MJD, Rice, and Foster who might have to sit one of them.

I am not a believer in blindly starting studs. Especially when we start talking about other positions too like WR1s that might be playing in 6 inches of snow or 35 mph winds gusting.

Try to be a little open minded

 
Moreno has to be considered one of the best starts this week. He is top 10 in ppg in non ppr leagues, and he plays against Arizona, one of the worst run defenses. Not sure how this could be viewed as anything but a great matchup and one of the premier starts this week. He has been great when he is healthy this year.

I guarantee no less than 15 fantasy points in non ppr leagues.

Turner is also a great start. At least a touchdown in five of his last 6 games (7 total over that time). Carolina is still Carolina, one of the worst teams in the NFL. Atlanta is still one of the best teams in the NFL. I'll go with the odds rather than MoP's gut feeling that Atlanta will have a let down game. Atlanta is one game up on New Orleans right now. They don't have the luxury of a let down game. I just don't see any reason they won't be ready to roll this Sunday. Either way you slice it, it is a huge reach to have him marked as a RB to avoid this week. Even if you end up right.... it was a mistake not to start him. Kind of like it would be a mistake to ever bench your 1st round pick and one of the most explosive RBs in the league (Chris Johnson). If the premise is that other teams have had let down games so Atlanta will as well... maybe, but they are also one of the most balanced team in the NFL. A lot of 'let down' games are due to teams having glaring weaknesses, or lacking balance, causing certain defenses and game plans to shut them down. I just see no actual logical reason that will be the case with this game.

Along those same lines, start Arian Foster without hesitation over any other RB. Don't overthink this. For instance, Ray Rice in green, but Foster in black? Who in their right mind is starting Rice over Foster?
Incredible way to say that whether the OP is right not that he's wrong. There's really no reason in reasoning with you :unsure: Keeper and dyansty leagues you could easily have someone with a trio pf MJD, Rice, and Foster who might have to sit one of them.

I am not a believer in blindly starting studs. Especially when we start talking about other positions too like WR1s that might be playing in 6 inches of snow or 35 mph winds gusting.

Try to be a little open minded
Anything is possible. Which means you could, by luck, be right. That doesn't make it the right decision. Let's say player A has roughly a 25% chance of outscoring player B in a given week. You could start player B, have the 25% hit, and it looks like you made the right decision. The other 3 out of 4 times, it ends up being the wrong decision.But really, Turner as a RB matchup to avoid after how the Panthers have been absolutely shredded the last 4 weeks in the ground game? Look there is always a possibility any player lays a dud. Doesn't mean there is any intelligence behind predicting it will happen when the odds are it won't. It might looks smart after the fact, but it would only be lucky.

Like, should anyone sit Drew Brees next week against the Ravens for a lesser QB? No way. You take the Brees ride, wherever it is going, and accept the outcome ahead of time. You don't overthink it, try and get cute, and get burned by it.

And in your example, you sit Ray Rice every time if you have any clue what you are doing. He just hasn't been on the same level as the other two this year. You place your money on the highest odds to payoff.

 
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agreed with above. the methodology and reasoning are more important than the results depending on circumstances. when the reasoning is "i feel that the falcons are due for a let down," its hard for me to take it seriously.

 
Go deep said:
Be prepared for Blount owners to tear you up.
I can't believe he is still not over missing Blount on the waiver wire? To bad MOP didn't post last week I was looking forward to his take on Blount.
 
Hipple said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Very slimmed down version this week. I am not going to waste time with spreads and whatnot. Basically list the game and whatever opinion I have. I encourage you to post what your choices are and tell us which way you are leaning. I have gotten a slew of PMs asking for help so odds are others are having the same predicaments.

Atlanta at Carolina

Michael Turner – Not as big a fan this week and here’s why. Atlanta has been winning big game after big game each week. Now they have to get up for the 1-11 Panthers and I see a letdown this week. Turner on the road and on natural grass is not usually a strong play. I’m not saying he cannot have a decent day but I would not expect 100 yds and 2 TD like his upside can be most weeks. Looks like DD has him outside the top10-12 this week too.

Carolina – Who knows? What is the health status of Stewart and Goodson, someone chime in.



Oakland at Jacksonville

Darren McFadden – Any game he has been active other than 1 in PPR formats the minimum he puts up is 13 points. 5 games with 18+ points. I know the Jags are pumped up and possibly on a collision course next week with Indy…you gotta find a way to get him on the field. Jags rush D 4 of the last 5 weeks has been pretty darn good, I will admit it.

MJD – Automatic start.
Honestly this is one of the worst ones of these you've done. Simplistic. And I think you are off on a few/not even trying n a few of these right (or at all in MJD's case).It's kind of like you mailed it in on this one. :doh:

but i'll just point out a few things I disagree with.

Blount: have u been watching the NFL this year? Have you watched any skins games? Their was putrid with Albert Haynesworth. Now he's gone. Did you watch him last week running over the falcons left and right? Admittedly their run d is a lil soft, but it's not DC bad.

MJD: I'm starting him. but to say 'autostart' when he's been losing meaningful carries and tds to jennings, and a lesser extenet garrard, is prolly worth a mention. I mean the raiders held Tollberts n check twice (once dominantly so), checked the seahawks, chiefs, seelers and dolpins.

Now I am starting him. But others with tougher decisions might want a lil more insight than 'start him'

something just came up and gotta run so I'll try and come back later for other ones. but those two are a decent start.
Just listened to the audible, and bloom/lammey both agree (almost to a tee-- on MJD). Last segment of PT 1.
 
I thought you didn't think much of Chris Ivory just a few short weeks ago. I guess he proved you wrong and you changed your mind which is cool.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
T J said:
What's the take on Starks this week vs. Lions? I'm starting him since my alternatives ain't great, but I do see some real upside with him.
I believe 9 of his 18 carries came on the final drive last week. He got the 1st down handoffs on the 1st play of many drives but then they went to the air with Rodgers. I don't see that changing so they can focus on Starks. The running game is like seasoning for the Packers, it's there but the main course is already on the plate and in this case it's Aaron Rodgers and the passing game.
Maybe I'm trying to convince myself, but I'm starting him regardless.Here's what I see with Starks this weekend:I see the Packers getting up early in this game and really working on establishing the run game, and specifically Starks. Again, I do think they get up early and pound the rock as they get ready for the last few games outdoors and playoffs when they're going to need to be able to run. I think Starks is the guy and that we're going to see it this weekend. Last week was a prelude to this week's coming out party. There you have it. I'm all in with the guy.
 
I see the Packers getting up early in this game and really working on establishing the run game, and specifically Starks. Again, I do think they get up early and pound the rock as they get ready for the last few games outdoors and playoffs when they're going to need to be able to run. I think Starks is the guy and that we're going to see it this weekend. Last week was a prelude to this week's coming out party. There you have it. I'm all in with the guy.
I would have thought that Chicago could get up early and blow them out, but it didn't happen. When GB played Det earlier in the season it was only a 2 pt game. So the potential is still there for this to remain a close game throughout.
 
I agree with TJ on what he said about Starks (Bummed I held him for three weeks, let him go, and couldn't pick him back up last week)

I think it all depends on how Detroit plays. Their defense tends to struggle, so if Rodgers and Co. get off to a good start they could end up leaning on Starks to get him both the experience and see what hes got. Most are assuming he will be the early down back with Jackson coming in on third downs, but Starks was a good receiver during his college career catching 34/41/52 receptions his Freshman/Soph/Junior years, so he is capable and now just needs to prove himself with the blitz pick up. If he does well he could very well take that roll over from Brandon and become the teams every down back so teams don't see the obvious run play coming. This would be the game to test him out, seeing as they face NE/NYG/CHI the following three weeks and they wont be used to evaluate talent.

If the Lions struggle, expect some great stats from Starks. If Detroit can keep the pace, which their offense is capable of, I would expect a similar day to last week but with 12-14 rushing attempts and 2 receptions instead.

 
Go deep said:
Be prepared for Blount owners to tear you up.
Your Blount hatred is now seeping through to your other posts as well, lol...Didn't you rate him 23rd in RBs and claim "I wouldn't want to have to start him." We'll see...
 
Hipple said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Very slimmed down version this week. I am not going to waste time with spreads and whatnot. Basically list the game and whatever opinion I have. I encourage you to post what your choices are and tell us which way you are leaning. I have gotten a slew of PMs asking for help so odds are others are having the same predicaments.

Atlanta at Carolina

Michael Turner – Not as big a fan this week and here’s why. Atlanta has been winning big game after big game each week. Now they have to get up for the 1-11 Panthers and I see a letdown this week. Turner on the road and on natural grass is not usually a strong play. I’m not saying he cannot have a decent day but I would not expect 100 yds and 2 TD like his upside can be most weeks. Looks like DD has him outside the top10-12 this week too.

Carolina – Who knows? What is the health status of Stewart and Goodson, someone chime in.



Oakland at Jacksonville

Darren McFadden – Any game he has been active other than 1 in PPR formats the minimum he puts up is 13 points. 5 games with 18+ points. I know the Jags are pumped up and possibly on a collision course next week with Indy…you gotta find a way to get him on the field. Jags rush D 4 of the last 5 weeks has been pretty darn good, I will admit it.

MJD – Automatic start.
Honestly this is one of the worst ones of these you've done. Simplistic. And I think you are off on a few/not even trying n a few of these right (or at all in MJD's case).It's kind of like you mailed it in on this one. :(

but i'll just point out a few things I disagree with.

Blount: have u been watching the NFL this year? Have you watched any skins games? Their was putrid with Albert Haynesworth. Now he's gone. Did you watch him last week running over the falcons left and right? Admittedly their run d is a lil soft, but it's not DC bad.

MJD: I'm starting him. but to say 'autostart' when he's been losing meaningful carries and tds to jennings, and a lesser extenet garrard, is prolly worth a mention. I mean the raiders held Tollberts n check twice (once dominantly so), checked the seahawks, chiefs, seelers and dolpins.

Now I am starting him. But others with tougher decisions might want a lil more insight than 'start him'

something just came up and gotta run so I'll try and come back later for other ones. but those two are a decent start.
Dude, you don't want to go there, believe me. The hatred for blount by some of these guys has me stumped :kicksrock: ...i think Blount tried to pick up "go deep's" mother and tried the same on ministry of pain's sister. The only possible explanation. Forget the prior confused icon, i've figured it out now :shrug: .

 
Go deep said:
Be prepared for Blount owners to tear you up.
Your Blount hatred is now seeping through to your other posts as well, lol...Didn't you rate him 23rd in RBs and claim "I wouldn't want to have to start him." We'll see...
I dont hate Blount, i raked him 23, which is a starter in 12 man leagues. My statement of "i wouldnt want to start him" only means i think he is a low end #2 this week. Rankings are not an exact science, and it is certainly possible he goes for 100 and 2 TD's, i just think the guys i have above him either have higher upside or are safer picks...or a combination of both.I was just pointing out to MOP that alot of people, which i assumed to blount owners, were going to get upset that he had him ranked that low. Of course basing that on the heat i took in my thread about having him at 23.
 
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No comments on M Bush or T Jones? OK, blatant WDIS which I will not attempt to disguise.

Lost Gore and Addai. In a bind.

Last second start was J James, and I'll take the 10 points from Thursday night. Now I have these to choose from:

M Bush

T Jones

Dixon

BJGE

I could alternately go with either S Moss or Evans in a 0.5 PPR. Out of this motely group I have to start 3, any combo.

I almost never ask for this sort of advice, but it's the playoffs and I have no clue. My best guess is BJGE and ? and ?

 
Moreno has to be considered one of the best starts this week. He is top 10 in ppg in non ppr leagues, and he plays against Arizona, one of the worst run defenses. Not sure how this could be viewed as anything but a great matchup and one of the premier starts this week. He has been great when he is healthy this year.I guarantee no less than 15 fantasy points in non ppr leagues.Turner is also a great start. At least a touchdown in five of his last 6 games (7 total over that time). Carolina is still Carolina, one of the worst teams in the NFL. Atlanta is still one of the best teams in the NFL. I'll go with the odds rather than MoP's gut feeling that Atlanta will have a let down game. Atlanta is one game up on New Orleans right now. They don't have the luxury of a let down game. I just don't see any reason they won't be ready to roll this Sunday. Either way you slice it, it is a huge reach to have him marked as a RB to avoid this week. Even if you end up right.... it was a mistake not to start him. Kind of like it would be a mistake to ever bench your 1st round pick and one of the most explosive RBs in the league (Chris Johnson). If the premise is that other teams have had let down games so Atlanta will as well... maybe, but they are also one of the most balanced team in the NFL. A lot of 'let down' games are due to teams having glaring weaknesses, or lacking balance, causing certain defenses and game plans to shut them down. I just see no actual logical reason that will be the case with this game. Along those same lines, start Arian Foster without hesitation over any other RB. Don't overthink this. For instance, Ray Rice in green, but Foster in black? Who in their right mind is starting Rice over Foster?
Moreno has a great chance to carry many to championships this season. Starting this week at AZ.Next up on the schedule:@OakHouThe stars are aligning. Just like they did last year for the likes of J. Charles.Monster game Sunday.KY
 
Heard Mike Smith, HC Atlanta on Sirius radio this week.

He stated they are down to 3 healthy rbs. I'd think Turner gets his 100+, and a td, however, if they are up big, would not surprise me if they pull him to save him for the last stretch, and the playoffs

 
I think Turner is a great start this week. In 12 games Carolina has given up 133 YPG rushing and 14 rushing TD's. In their last 5 games they've given 165 yds, 186 yds, 100 yds, 152 yds and 161 yds, and they've given up 9 rushing TD's in those games. They've given up 6 rushing TD's in the last 2 games! They've turned the ball over 30 times so opposing offenses usually have good scoring chances. Opponents have scored 16 more offensive TD's and twice as many points as the Panthers. I also don't think it will be a close game. Where Atlanta is more vulnerable is in passing defense. They've given up 21 passing TD's to just 5 rushing TD's. Carolina won't be able to take advantage of that. Clausen has 1 passing TD to 7 INT's, and Carolina QB's overall have just 7 TDS to 18 INT's. I don't think we'll see an Atlanta letdown with just a 1 game lead and against a division rival regardless of Carolina's record. I think Turner has an excellent chance at 100yds and 2 TD's.

 
Um.....wow. Expected my combo of Turner and Moreno to be green, bolded, caps lock, and huge font.
lol same here and I have fjax and Mendy on the bench.
Turner has a very good history against Carolina and Atlanta could be ripe for a letdown but it just doesn't matter. Carolina is so horrible a letdown for Atlanta would mean what?............a 24-17 win? Carolina doesn't have the personnel to get way ahead in this game and keep Turner on the sidelines.
@Car-2008 18/56@Car-2009 9/111It's OK but he also has some challenges on the road, just saying he might be top5-7 RB in the league, but I don't see top 5-7 numbers this week when I spread out the tea leaves.
Dare to be different, right? Props for that I guess...
 
Dare to be different, right? Props for that I guess...
FBG had Gates No 1 at TE all week, wouldn't budge him all weekend with reports very conflicting. The point is #### happens. I wasn't putting it up to be different but if that's how you read a weekly thread I have been posting up for almost 10 years than props to you too. I was pretty critical of Blount as well and most folks were tripping over themslves to start him today and looks like he is going to end up with almost exacty what I said he does...20/80, today it's 15/68 and I guess it's the odd week so no TDs. It's cool, good luck to you.
 
I honestly don't understand how you could say Turner was a questionable start, and then suggest MJD was a must-start. They're on the same talent level...anyone who benched Turner (or CJ2k for that matter) deserves to lose their matchup this week.

Although I agreed with you before about Mendenhall before the day begun, so we can both sit here wondering why Pitt doesn't utilize him to a higher extent. Has been an odd game though.

 
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Dare to be different, right? Props for that I guess...
FBG had Gates No 1 at TE all week, wouldn't budge him all weekend with reports very conflicting. The point is #### happens. I wasn't putting it up to be different but if that's how you read a weekly thread I have been posting up for almost 10 years than props to you too. I was pretty critical of Blount as well and most folks were tripping over themslves to start him today and looks like he is going to end up with almost exacty what I said he does...20/80, today it's 15/68 and I guess it's the odd week so no TDs. It's cool, good luck to you.
Fair enough. Tbh, I was taking a little shot at ya over your shot at me regarding the weather. Win some, lose some. Keep up the good work.
 
I'm tempted to go against your recommendation and role with Choice instead of Bradshaw. Either way, both are going to lose carries. But I think Choice vs. Philly D that's given up 14 rushing TDs is a stronger play than MIN D that has given up 6 (I think it's 6). That's a substantial difference, don't you think? Choice isn't such a bad play, as long as he gets the carries.

 
I'm tempted to go against your recommendation and role with Choice instead of Bradshaw. Either way, both are going to lose carries. But I think Choice vs. Philly D that's given up 14 rushing TDs is a stronger play than MIN D that has given up 6 (I think it's 6). That's a substantial difference, don't you think? Choice isn't such a bad play, as long as he gets the carries.
What do you not like about Bradshaw? You are going to risk Choice who has not much to go on track record and will likely be in a track meet tonight with Philly and you want to sit a top10 RB in Bradshaw. It's your team but I would have a hard time pulling the trigger on Choice. Good luck whoever you roll with.
 
I'm tempted to go against your recommendation and role with Choice instead of Bradshaw. Either way, both are going to lose carries. But I think Choice vs. Philly D that's given up 14 rushing TDs is a stronger play than MIN D that has given up 6 (I think it's 6). That's a substantial difference, don't you think? Choice isn't such a bad play, as long as he gets the carries.
What do you not like about Bradshaw? You are going to risk Choice who has not much to go on track record and will likely be in a track meet tonight with Philly and you want to sit a top10 RB in Bradshaw. It's your team but I would have a hard time pulling the trigger on Choice. Good luck whoever you roll with.
Well, Bradshaw scored 2x last week, but Jacobs was still the main part. And Minnesota has a tough run defense. Not as tough as it has been, but still tough. With those 2 splitting, Bradshaw is 1 fumble away from losing all his carries the rest of the game. Since Coughlin would rather have decreased production rather than risk a fumble every now and then.Cowboys finally played Choice for the first time all year and he excelled. Excelled when their RBs have been anything but impressive all season. The theory was that after last week, Garrett would be foolish to not play Choice. He needs to make an impression to keep the HC job next year. And after we've seen Choice, it would look great for him to say "look who we've had this whole time but was being wasted" and ride him the rest of the way out. But apparently I was wrong as Choice was seldom used tonight. And neither Jones or Choice were very impressive. Last second lineup change, always go with your first decision. Oh well :P
 
Who do you guys like between the 2 Giants RB's tomorrow night? Seems like Bradshaw would be the play but are homers reading anything otherwise?

 
I'm tempted to go against your recommendation and role with Choice instead of Bradshaw. Either way, both are going to lose carries. But I think Choice vs. Philly D that's given up 14 rushing TDs is a stronger play than MIN D that has given up 6 (I think it's 6). That's a substantial difference, don't you think? Choice isn't such a bad play, as long as he gets the carries.
What do you not like about Bradshaw? You are going to risk Choice who has not much to go on track record and will likely be in a track meet tonight with Philly and you want to sit a top10 RB in Bradshaw. It's your team but I would have a hard time pulling the trigger on Choice. Good luck whoever you roll with.
Well, Bradshaw scored 2x last week, but Jacobs was still the main part. And Minnesota has a tough run defense. Not as tough as it has been, but still tough. With those 2 splitting, Bradshaw is 1 fumble away from losing all his carries the rest of the game. Since Coughlin would rather have decreased production rather than risk a fumble every now and then.Cowboys finally played Choice for the first time all year and he excelled. Excelled when their RBs have been anything but impressive all season. The theory was that after last week, Garrett would be foolish to not play Choice. He needs to make an impression to keep the HC job next year. And after we've seen Choice, it would look great for him to say "look who we've had this whole time but was being wasted" and ride him the rest of the way out.

But apparently I was wrong as Choice was seldom used tonight. And neither Jones or Choice were very impressive. Last second lineup change, always go with your first decision. Oh well :P
Bradshaw had 26 touches to Jacobs 8.P.S. Jones was pretty impressive tonight from a FF standpoint.

 
I'm tempted to go against your recommendation and role with Choice instead of Bradshaw. Either way, both are going to lose carries. But I think Choice vs. Philly D that's given up 14 rushing TDs is a stronger play than MIN D that has given up 6 (I think it's 6). That's a substantial difference, don't you think? Choice isn't such a bad play, as long as he gets the carries.
What do you not like about Bradshaw? You are going to risk Choice who has not much to go on track record and will likely be in a track meet tonight with Philly and you want to sit a top10 RB in Bradshaw. It's your team but I would have a hard time pulling the trigger on Choice. Good luck whoever you roll with.
Well, Bradshaw scored 2x last week, but Jacobs was still the main part. And Minnesota has a tough run defense. Not as tough as it has been, but still tough. With those 2 splitting, Bradshaw is 1 fumble away from losing all his carries the rest of the game. Since Coughlin would rather have decreased production rather than risk a fumble every now and then.Cowboys finally played Choice for the first time all year and he excelled. Excelled when their RBs have been anything but impressive all season. The theory was that after last week, Garrett would be foolish to not play Choice. He needs to make an impression to keep the HC job next year. And after we've seen Choice, it would look great for him to say "look who we've had this whole time but was being wasted" and ride him the rest of the way out.

But apparently I was wrong as Choice was seldom used tonight. And neither Jones or Choice were very impressive. Last second lineup change, always go with your first decision. Oh well :shrug:
Bradshaw had 26 touches to Jacobs 8.P.S. Jones was pretty impressive tonight from a FF standpoint.
Hmmm overlooked the carries. The 103 Yards and 2 TDs must have made me believe he got more carries.
 

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