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Redskins Jason Taylor to left-end or right-end? (2 Viewers)
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Chachi
Footballguy
Other questions regarding Taylor: Who is going to start in Miami, does Phillip Merling become a starter pronto?
What's up with JT, is he playing one year, two years, maybe more:
From ESPN article
According to ESPN.com's John Clayton, Taylor told the Redskins he did not need to renegotiate and was willing to play for the final two years of his contract. He is scheduled to make $8.1 million this season. With around $9 million of cap room, the Redskins were able to work the trade quickly.
AND
Taylor has said he planned to play only one more season.
But Cerrato said: "I'm 100 percent positive he'll play longer than one year."
So far the questions for staff/Miami fans/Redskins fans:
1. Is JT the left or right end???
2. Who is going to be the two starting DE in Miami this year???
3. How long is JT going to play for???
What's up with JT, is he playing one year, two years, maybe more:
From ESPN article
According to ESPN.com's John Clayton, Taylor told the Redskins he did not need to renegotiate and was willing to play for the final two years of his contract. He is scheduled to make $8.1 million this season. With around $9 million of cap room, the Redskins were able to work the trade quickly.
AND
Taylor has said he planned to play only one more season.
But Cerrato said: "I'm 100 percent positive he'll play longer than one year."
So far the questions for staff/Miami fans/Redskins fans:
1. Is JT the left or right end???
2. Who is going to be the two starting DE in Miami this year???
3. How long is JT going to play for???
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
By the process of elimination, I think the Skins will be forced to use Taylor as the LE. Andre Carter cannot make the move at 255lbs. Taylor is extremely light for a strong-side end, but he also has a reputation for playing the run well.
The Skins were #4 against the run last year. I guess they can give-up some rushing yards and still be fine.
The Skins were #4 against the run last year. I guess they can give-up some rushing yards and still be fine.
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
Just found this...
link:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsins...ml?nav=rss_blog
Skins Trade For Jason Taylor
Vinny Cerrato just announced the Skins acquired Pro Bowl DE Jason Taylor from Miami for a second round pick in 2009 and a sixth-round pick in 2010.
The Skins assume the final two years of Taylor's contract as is, Cerrato said, with no re-negotiation (Washington had about $8 million in cap space prior to the trade, Cerrato said). Taylor, 33, is set to make $8 million this season (including a $500,000 roster bonus, and $8.5 million next season, including the same $500,000 bonus).
Taylor has talked about playing just one more season before leaving the NFL for acting/Hollywood options, but Cerrato, Washington's executive VP of football operations, said, "I'm 100 percent confident he'll play more than one year.".
Cerrato said he began talking to the Dolphins this afternoon, following Washington's second practice. He said immediately after practice that the Redskins had had no contact with other teams about trades as of that point, so that would mean the deal came together in something like 90 minutes.
"We got him? Wow, that's awesome," defensive tackle Lorenzo Alexander said. "You're talking about a guy who can make a huge impact. He's a perennial Pro Bowler and a guy who was a defensive player of the year, so you know he can come in and really help you get after that quarterback.
"And from a leadership standpoint, he's someone who has been in this game a long time. He's seen a lot and he's accomplished a lot. I don't know him, but hopefully he's the type of guy who's going to want to come in and help the young players, such as myself. Anyway you look at it, it's a great move."
Cerrato said the season-ending injuries to starting left end Phillip Daniels and reserve end Alex Buzbee forced Washington to exhaust all options. He said Taylor will move to the left side with Washington - he played right end in Miami - and Andre Carter will remain the starting right end.
"We're fortunate there is a guy of that caliber on the market when a guy gets hurt," said Cerrato.
Taylor (6-6, 255 pounds) is a former NFL player of the year who brings elite pass rushing skills, something sorely missing on this line for years (though Carter had a strong season in 2007). Defensive line has long been an area of concern for Washington.
Cerrato said he expects Taylor would report to the team on Monday. Taylor has clashed with Miami, and new front office maven Bill Parcells in particular, about being away from the team for much of the offseason to participate in "Dancing With The Stars." Cerrato shares an uncommonly close relationship with Gary Wichard, Taylor's agent, and was confident the player was ready to make an impact and is focused on football.
"He's excited for a new start," Cerrato said of Taylor.
Starting tackle Cornelius Griffin said he is sad to lose a teammate such as Daniels to injury, but was eager to welcome Taylor to town.
"I think he can really help us," Griffin said. "He's a great asset to our team - he may be a future Hall of Famer - and I think he's someone who would look forward to working with me and Andre and some of the younger guys we have on the line."
Jason Reid broke the news of the trade to young defensive lineman Lorenzo Alexander, who responded : "We got him? Wow, that's awesome," defensive tackle Lorenzo Alexander said. "You're talking about a guy who can make a huge impact. He's a perennial Pro Bowler and a guy who was a defensive player of the year, so you know he can come in and really help you get after that quarterback.
"And from a leadership standpoint, he's someone who has been in this game a long time. He's seen a lot and he's accomplished a lot. I don't know him, but hopefully he's the type of guy who's going to want to come in and help the young players, such as myself. Anyway you look at it, it's a great move."
Taylor had 11 sacks last season - more than any Redskin - and has posted at least 8 1/2 sacks every season this decade. He has missed just four games since entering the NFL in 1997, and had spent his entire career with the Dolphins after being selected in the third round by the club.
link:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsins...ml?nav=rss_blog
Skins Trade For Jason Taylor
Vinny Cerrato just announced the Skins acquired Pro Bowl DE Jason Taylor from Miami for a second round pick in 2009 and a sixth-round pick in 2010.
The Skins assume the final two years of Taylor's contract as is, Cerrato said, with no re-negotiation (Washington had about $8 million in cap space prior to the trade, Cerrato said). Taylor, 33, is set to make $8 million this season (including a $500,000 roster bonus, and $8.5 million next season, including the same $500,000 bonus).
Taylor has talked about playing just one more season before leaving the NFL for acting/Hollywood options, but Cerrato, Washington's executive VP of football operations, said, "I'm 100 percent confident he'll play more than one year.".
Cerrato said he began talking to the Dolphins this afternoon, following Washington's second practice. He said immediately after practice that the Redskins had had no contact with other teams about trades as of that point, so that would mean the deal came together in something like 90 minutes.
"We got him? Wow, that's awesome," defensive tackle Lorenzo Alexander said. "You're talking about a guy who can make a huge impact. He's a perennial Pro Bowler and a guy who was a defensive player of the year, so you know he can come in and really help you get after that quarterback.
"And from a leadership standpoint, he's someone who has been in this game a long time. He's seen a lot and he's accomplished a lot. I don't know him, but hopefully he's the type of guy who's going to want to come in and help the young players, such as myself. Anyway you look at it, it's a great move."
Cerrato said the season-ending injuries to starting left end Phillip Daniels and reserve end Alex Buzbee forced Washington to exhaust all options. He said Taylor will move to the left side with Washington - he played right end in Miami - and Andre Carter will remain the starting right end.
"We're fortunate there is a guy of that caliber on the market when a guy gets hurt," said Cerrato.
Taylor (6-6, 255 pounds) is a former NFL player of the year who brings elite pass rushing skills, something sorely missing on this line for years (though Carter had a strong season in 2007). Defensive line has long been an area of concern for Washington.
Cerrato said he expects Taylor would report to the team on Monday. Taylor has clashed with Miami, and new front office maven Bill Parcells in particular, about being away from the team for much of the offseason to participate in "Dancing With The Stars." Cerrato shares an uncommonly close relationship with Gary Wichard, Taylor's agent, and was confident the player was ready to make an impact and is focused on football.
"He's excited for a new start," Cerrato said of Taylor.
Starting tackle Cornelius Griffin said he is sad to lose a teammate such as Daniels to injury, but was eager to welcome Taylor to town.
"I think he can really help us," Griffin said. "He's a great asset to our team - he may be a future Hall of Famer - and I think he's someone who would look forward to working with me and Andre and some of the younger guys we have on the line."
Jason Reid broke the news of the trade to young defensive lineman Lorenzo Alexander, who responded : "We got him? Wow, that's awesome," defensive tackle Lorenzo Alexander said. "You're talking about a guy who can make a huge impact. He's a perennial Pro Bowler and a guy who was a defensive player of the year, so you know he can come in and really help you get after that quarterback.
"And from a leadership standpoint, he's someone who has been in this game a long time. He's seen a lot and he's accomplished a lot. I don't know him, but hopefully he's the type of guy who's going to want to come in and help the young players, such as myself. Anyway you look at it, it's a great move."
Taylor had 11 sacks last season - more than any Redskin - and has posted at least 8 1/2 sacks every season this decade. He has missed just four games since entering the NFL in 1997, and had spent his entire career with the Dolphins after being selected in the third round by the club.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Good stuf.
Certainly solid for Carters pass rush potential.
Having Taylor on other side has to be a boon against blocking schemes.
Leaves some question towards Taylor being in a different spot, on a different team.
He is so good that he can easily do 'his thing' regardless. And he might be energized.
But should his sack numbers underperform, I wont exactly be shocked.
Certainly solid for Carters pass rush potential.
Having Taylor on other side has to be a boon against blocking schemes.
Leaves some question towards Taylor being in a different spot, on a different team.
He is so good that he can easily do 'his thing' regardless. And he might be energized.
But should his sack numbers underperform, I wont exactly be shocked.
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Even if they drop a little, his tackle numbers are always through the roof. He should still be a solid DL1.I completely agree regarding Carter.
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PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I'm wondering about the Miami perspective as well. Are they even going to play a 4-3?Edit: Nevermind, I found they are playing a 3-4 and Taylor was actually listed as an OLB on their depth chart.
And here is an article which says Matt Roth looks like he's going to hold the starter's job at end and Merling is expected to be a backup. Merling probably has to add some weight to be a 3-4 DE.
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
does this help Andre Carter
Benchwarmers
Footballguy
Yes Carter staying on the RDE makes him even better this year.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Then the question is... who is the LOLB for Miami?
T Bell
Footballguy
And bump Carter in your rankings. Taylor will get more double teams and more attention than Daniels would have, and is certainly a better pash rusher than Daniels was. I have my doubts about the run defense, but we'll see how that goes.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Taylor should be fine on the left end. He played the run well in his 4-3 years on the right side. He'll face a few more double teams, but there have been plenty of undersized left ends who have made plenty of tackles on the strong side (Strahan and Mathis come immediately to mind). The move won't hurt Carter either, as has been said many times above; whether he can parlay Taylor's presence into a 50-15 year is another matter. He's had stretches like that in the past, but that's still a lofty expectation.
Don't fuss over the Miami defensive ends. In that 3-4 system, unless you're in a really deep, tackle heavy system, they won't have any value. Neither Roth or Merling look like the type of player that can consistently make tackles in a 2-gap role. Kendall Langford may, but he's likely a year or so away. And I'd guess that Porter stays at LOLB. This may be the opening that finally gets Quentin Moses on the field in some kind of role as the ROLB, either situationally or in an every down type capacity. I suppose Reggie Torbor or Akin Ayodele could be an option on the outside, but that's a little bit of a stretch as well. More good news for Channing Crowder, however. Shaping up as it did for Patrick Willis last year. Albeit a different 3-4 system and a better talent, Willis didn't have much competition in his front seven for tackles either on a team that looked to be on the field plenty.
Don't fuss over the Miami defensive ends. In that 3-4 system, unless you're in a really deep, tackle heavy system, they won't have any value. Neither Roth or Merling look like the type of player that can consistently make tackles in a 2-gap role. Kendall Langford may, but he's likely a year or so away. And I'd guess that Porter stays at LOLB. This may be the opening that finally gets Quentin Moses on the field in some kind of role as the ROLB, either situationally or in an every down type capacity. I suppose Reggie Torbor or Akin Ayodele could be an option on the outside, but that's a little bit of a stretch as well. More good news for Channing Crowder, however. Shaping up as it did for Patrick Willis last year. Albeit a different 3-4 system and a better talent, Willis didn't have much competition in his front seven for tackles either on a team that looked to be on the field plenty.
T Bell
Footballguy
I'm not sure that this is going to be a static thing with Taylor always on the left side, the more I think about this. I would suspect that they're going to move Taylor around on that line, sometimes swapping him with Carter, sometimes putting him at RDE with Evans at LDE, sometimes rushing him and Marcus Washington from the left side, etc. That should both free up Taylor to make plays, and also hide him from an offense that might otherwise want to run at him (or Carter for that matter).
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
It'll be interesting to see. Blache said he was going to stick to the Williams plan, whatever that meant over the past couple of seasons. If he goes back to what he's done in the past, it'll be a simple front four pass rush and little else.
T Bell
Footballguy
Well, it's always been difficult to envision what a "simplified" version of Williams' defense was, given that the complex variety of looks and exotic blitzes were its hallmark. In other words, it's sort of a contradiction in terms. Regardless, all things being equal the addition of Taylor should enable the front four to generate more pass rush pressure by itself, which means that Blache if anything should be less inclined to blitz than Williams was. I'm just reading tea leaves at this point, but that's what occurs to me so far.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
To me, its a small but noteworthy advantage.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
It means a little. The weak side defensive end will usually have to deal with only the left tackle. The offense can still chip and double team with max protection schemes, however, and the left tackle (as you've said) is generally the best pass blocker on the line. The strong side end may or may not have to deal with a TE at the snap.Strong side ends may be tasked with more run support duties; some weak side ends aren't expected to have much impact against the run.In terms of raw production, you're still looking for every down ends that can disengage and/or pursue well enough to play the run. Last year, four LDEs finished in the top ten in FBG scoring (Kampman, Kerney, Ogunleye, VDB) and all had more than nine sacks. Michael Strahan and Robert Mathis have had big seasons as LDEs. Leonard Little and Charles Grant, too.As BST noted, it's worth knowing -- some guys aren't great fits on the strong side -- but it shouldn't be a huge factor in most cases.
dgreen
Footballguy
I keep hearing that Blache will not use Williams' "packages" philosophy. I always thought Williams used "packages" as a nice excuse for why Lavar, Arch, and, briefly, Springs weren't playing as much as expected when questioned by the media. It appears "packages" were a big part of what he was doing and many reports have said Blache won't do that.I also see Taylor moving around. Maybe they'll use him like Spags was using some of his DE in NY last year.
