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Rich Gosselin's 1st mock draft (1 Viewer)

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Rick Gosselin's First 2011 NFL Mock Draft

1. Carolina: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn

2. Denver: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M

4. Cincinnati: A.J. Green, WR, Georgia

5. Arizona: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri

6. Cleveland: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU

7. San Francisco: Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina

8. Tennessee: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas: Tyron Smith, OT, Southern Cal

10. Washington: Julio Jones, WR, Alabama

11. Houston: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska

12. Minnesota: Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College

13. Detroit: Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

14. St. Louis: Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

15. Miami: Mark Ingram, HB, Alabama

16. Jacksonville: J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin

17. New England: Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal

18. San Diego: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue

19. NY Giants: Mike Pouncey, C, Florida

20. Tampa Bay: Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

21. Kansas City: Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis: Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois

23. Philadelphia: Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, Temple

24. New Orleans: Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina

25. Seattle: Danny Watkins, G, Baylor

26. Baltimore: Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado

27. Atlanta: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor

28. New England: Ryan Williams, HB, Virginia Tech

29. Chicago: Jon Baldwin, WR, Pitt

30. NY Jets: Aaron Williams, CB, Texas

31. Pittsburgh: Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

32. Green Bay: Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona

 
I'd be happy with this as a Bills fan. Help the defense in round 1, and lots of QBs available in round 2 if our front office feels it needs to go that way.

 
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Only 2 QBs in the first round? While I do think that's the way it SHOULD be, I don't think that's the way it WILL be.

 
The Colts will take an OT at #22. Of course Polian has been known to fool everyone in a lot of drafts and if he does it again, look for the Colts to take either WR Torrey Smith or RB Mikel Leshoure.

 
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I might be thinking of someone else, but don't Gosselin's mocks change a goodly amount before his final ones (the day of the draft) which are usually very accurate?

 
'BusterTBronco said:
'Blackjacks said:
'Spike said:
I might be thinking of someone else, but don't Gosselin's mocks change a goodly amount before his final ones (the day of the draft) which are usually very accurate?
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YES, his first to his third mock always change alot
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That's one of the reasons why I don't like Gosselin. He seems overly sensitive about other draft guru's "stealing" his picks. His early mock drafts always have a lot of misinformation in them. He will wait until the very last minute to release the final mock draft and then everyone will marvel about how accurate it was. Same thing with his top 100 list.
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If I recall correctly, he tries to accomplish different things with each of his 3 mocks. The first, I think is a rough estimation of where teams are valuing the respective players. The 2nd is one to push team needs. And the last, which comes out within 24 hours of the draft, is what he thinks is really going to happen.
 
'Ridgelake said:
'BusterTBronco said:
'Blackjacks said:
'Spike said:
I might be thinking of someone else, but don't Gosselin's mocks change a goodly amount before his final ones (the day of the draft) which are usually very accurate?
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YES, his first to his third mock always change alot
Click to expand...
That's one of the reasons why I don't like Gosselin. He seems overly sensitive about other draft guru's "stealing" his picks. His early mock drafts always have a lot of misinformation in them. He will wait until the very last minute to release the final mock draft and then everyone will marvel about how accurate it was. Same thing with his top 100 list.
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If I recall correctly, he tries to accomplish different things with each of his 3 mocks. The first, I think is a rough estimation of where teams are valuing the respective players. The 2nd is one to push team needs. And the last, which comes out within 24 hours of the draft, is what he thinks is really going to happen.
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I believe you are correct
 
I'm just happy we're close enough to the draft where Gosselin has come out with his first mock!

 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
The Colts will take an OT at #22. Of course Polian has been known to fool everyone in a lot of drafts and if he does it again, look for the Colts to take either WR Torrey Smith or RB Mikel Leshoure.
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How can he possibly fool everyone, now that those of us reading this are aware of the possibility they take WR Torrey Smith or RB Mikel Leshoure? I guess he'll just have to settle for fooling most of the people.
 
Despite nearly every mock having the Lions taking Solder or Castonzo, I don't see it happening. It is more likely to be a CB or DE.

 
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'Dr. Octopus said:
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
The Colts will take an OT at #22. Of course Polian has been known to fool everyone in a lot of drafts and if he does it again, look for the Colts to take either WR Torrey Smith or RB Mikel Leshoure.
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How can he possibly fool everyone, now that those of us reading this are aware of the possibility they take WR Torrey Smith or RB Mikel Leshoure? I guess he'll just have to settle for fooling most of the people.
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So you agree that Polian likes to go against the grain?
 
'BusterTBronco said:
'Blackjacks said:
'Spike said:
I might be thinking of someone else, but don't Gosselin's mocks change a goodly amount before his final ones (the day of the draft) which are usually very accurate?
Click to expand...
YES, his first to his third mock always change alot
Click to expand...
That's one of the reasons why I don't like Gosselin. He seems overly sensitive about other draft guru's "stealing" his picks. His early mock drafts always have a lot of misinformation in them. He will wait until the very last minute to release the final mock draft and then everyone will marvel about how accurate it was. Same thing with his top 100 list.
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He should be overly sensitive to it, because that is exactly what used to happen. He also makes no claim to try and get the first one right, as explained above. Gosselin's final mock, and more importantly, his final 100, show what happens when people have actual NFL contacts. He should let these other guys steal his research, and claim the same level of accuracy?
 
'Ridgelake said:
'BusterTBronco said:
'Blackjacks said:
'Spike said:
I might be thinking of someone else, but don't Gosselin's mocks change a goodly amount before his final ones (the day of the draft) which are usually very accurate?
Click to expand...
YES, his first to his third mock always change alot
Click to expand...
That's one of the reasons why I don't like Gosselin. He seems overly sensitive about other draft guru's "stealing" his picks. His early mock drafts always have a lot of misinformation in them. He will wait until the very last minute to release the final mock draft and then everyone will marvel about how accurate it was. Same thing with his top 100 list.
Click to expand...
If I recall correctly, he tries to accomplish different things with each of his 3 mocks. The first, I think is a rough estimation of where teams are valuing the respective players. The 2nd is one to push team needs. And the last, which comes out within 24 hours of the draft, is what he thinks is really going to happen.
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:goodposting: To be more specific, the first mock is based off of his top 100 from which he gets from his connections, the second is based on teams needs and the third is what certain team tell him about their board.Like always, this was in the Dallas Morning News this past Sunday. Just for the record, my quotes are not exact but a summary.
 
'Ilov80s said:
Despite nearly every mock having the Lions taking Solder or Castonzo, I don't see it happening. It is more likely to be a CB or DE.
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I disagree. I think if Prince is gone they go with a Offensive Lineman. They want to protect Stafford! I wouldn't mind seeing them drop back a few spots even and pick up another 2nd round pick as well.
 
29. Chicago: Jon Baldwin, WR, Pitt
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Who? Granted, I do not follow college football all that much, but he NFLDraftScout has him ranked as the 7th best WR in this year's draft. With larger needs on both lines, I highly doubt this happens. Maybe in the second, but even then we still have to address the other line. I would go OL, DL, CB, WR, in that order. The Bears can find a WR through free agency if they feel they need to.
 
'Ilov80s said:
Despite nearly every mock having the Lions taking Solder or Castonzo, I don't see it happening. It is more likely to be a CB or DE.
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How many years are they going to throw Stafford to the wolves in that division? It could happen if Prince or even Bowers fall, but I'm pretty sure it will be an OT. If they can't keep Stafford healthy and on his feet, they're going nowhere.
 
Really doubt Peterson lasts until the 6th or 7th pick as all these dudes are predicting, but if he does Houston should pay any price to trade up from 11th to draft him.

 
'cheese said:
'Ilov80s said:
Despite nearly every mock having the Lions taking Solder or Castonzo, I don't see it happening. It is more likely to be a CB or DE.
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How many years are they going to throw Stafford to the wolves in that division? It could happen if Prince or even Bowers fall, but I'm pretty sure it will be an OT. If they can't keep Stafford healthy and on his feet, they're going nowhere.
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Detroit only gave up 27 sacks last year- only 5 teams gave up less. It was not from a shortage of pass attempts as the Lions threw the ball 633 times- 3rd most in the NFL. I'm not saying all is great at o-line, however, it is not the glaring hole some people seem to think. It is imperative to get the best player available and I am not sold on any of the tackles really being that guy.
 
I question NO taking a guy who was suspended his entire senior year. Peyton likes high character guys, especially in the first round.

 
'Ilov80s said:
It is imperative to get the best player available
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The older I get, the more I subscribe to this theory (with ties going to OL) whether the team is good, bad, or in the middle. Sometimes need lines up with talent and that's great, but I'd rather just grab the best player (you can always trade from strength) than reach.As a Ravens fan, I love the way Ozzie has evolved in his drafting strategy to where he stays true to his board & goes with what he thinks is the BPA regardless of the team's perceived holes. He drafted Ngata when everyone was screaming for WR/CB/whatever else. Last year, he drafted TEs with back-to-back picks. He moved up to get Flacco when many thought Joe was a 2nd rounder. While obviously aware how other teams rank players so he can move up/down when needed, he doesn't really give a crap if other teams like his players as much as he does. Now, people can say he has the luxury of going BPA because the Ravens are good, but he was doing it when they were less than good too. In fact, I think it's more important for bad teams to go by talent over need - they're bad because they don't have enough good players.
 
I think its better that Gosselin puts out a last minute draft board...............nothing says the other analysts couldnt do the same.

 
'BusterTBronco said:
'Coin Flip said:
I think its better that Gosselin puts out a last minute draft board...............nothing says the other analysts couldnt do the same.
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Yes, because it is more important for Gosselin to protect his fragile reputation in some obscure "draft guru rankings" site than to get the information to the fans in a timely manner.
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I'd say he's getting it to the fans at precisely the right time.
 
'BusterTBronco said:
'Coin Flip said:
I think its better that Gosselin puts out a last minute draft board...............nothing says the other analysts couldnt do the same.
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Yes, because it is more important for Gosselin to protect his fragile reputation in some obscure "draft guru rankings" site than to get the information to the fans in a timely manner.
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Not for nothing, but this is a weird thing to be pissy about.
 
'matttyl said:
Only 2 QBs in the first round? While I do think that's the way it SHOULD be, I don't think that's the way it WILL be.
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New England or Chicago are going to be extremely tempted to move out of those late 1st round picks, especially if only 2 QB's are gone and there's a team trying to get that next guy on their board.Also, I really don't see the Bears going WR in Round 1 - I think they are going with, if they stay pat, the best OL/DL (in that order) on their board.
 
'Ilov80s said:
'cheese said:
'Ilov80s said:
Despite nearly every mock having the Lions taking Solder or Castonzo, I don't see it happening. It is more likely to be a CB or DE.
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How many years are they going to throw Stafford to the wolves in that division? It could happen if Prince or even Bowers fall, but I'm pretty sure it will be an OT. If they can't keep Stafford healthy and on his feet, they're going nowhere.
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Detroit only gave up 27 sacks last year- only 5 teams gave up less. It was not from a shortage of pass attempts as the Lions threw the ball 633 times- 3rd most in the NFL. I'm not saying all is great at o-line, however, it is not the glaring hole some people seem to think. It is imperative to get the best player available and I am not sold on any of the tackles really being that guy.
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They go Bowers or Prince with this pick respectivly if available. If not maybe another defensive player unless all they want are gone, then they will take an OL. I personally think they move up a couple spots to Washington, and take Prince and Washington will take a QB at 13, depending on what Dallas does at 9.
 
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