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'Hoss_Cartwright said:
'Xue said:
'Shutout said:
I just don't think this guy is going to be the lock people think he is.
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Curious what you don't like about Richardson. Thanks.
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Yes, talk is cheap. Everyone is a freaking expert, most with nothing to back it up.
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What could there possibly be to back it up? He hasn't played a down in the NFL yet. It's all talk on both sides at this point. There is zero factual evidence that he can even start in the NFL, let alone excel, just like every other prospect...ever.
 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
'Xue said:
'Shutout said:
I just don't think this guy is going to be the lock people think he is.
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Curious what you don't like about Richardson. Thanks.
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Yes, talk is cheap. Everyone is a freaking expert, most with nothing to back it up.
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What does this mean?I don't know who Shutout is talking about or if he just arguing about the mysterious "they", but Richardson isn't perfect. He's not a blazer, at least not in pads.
 
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
'Xue said:
'Shutout said:
I just don't think this guy is going to be the lock people think he is.
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Curious what you don't like about Richardson. Thanks.
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Yes, talk is cheap. Everyone is a freaking expert, most with nothing to back it up.
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Generally I appreciate your input as contributing but your post is a double-edge sword. Last year Ingram was a can't miss and not to say he won't go on to have a great career....but....I think it is a legitimate question. What makes Richardson a can't miss outside of him being the top RB prospect this year? I think it is very important to pin down the top guy this year because I think one of Luck. RG3, and Richardson can become a serious contender for a top 5 at their position. Those who have a high dynasty rookie pick will have a chance to grab one of these guys and just going with the crowd may end up burning them. It is usually not common that a QB is taken too high in rookie drafts unless it is a 2QB system. However looking back I would have happily drafted Peyton Manning #1 his rookie year if I knew I could lock up a starting stud QB for the next umpteen years. Luck has hype and RG3 has potential (especially when you throw in what Newton did his first year). I am not knocking Richardson but those who compare him to AP are blinded by a new shiny toy (not saying you are doing that). He has great strength, near-perfect build....but is he an elite prospect? Moreno and Ingram both look average to me. Ingram could probably still put good numbers because of the offense he is in but I would no longer consider him an elite talent. I know very little compared to most but I would like some more evidence that Richardson is as cant miss as many make him out to be.I am babbling now.....
 
For starters, he's a vastly superior athlete to Ingram and Moreno. The combine will prove that.

Neither of those guys really had this kind of hype entering the league, but whatever...

 
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Watching the amateur highlights (youtube) and I am seeing great balance and power but his lack of speed concerns me big time. He looks plodding at times....

 
Trent looks like he's gonna be solid definitely . But the more tape i see of Doug Martin, i think he may be a star

 
'cobalt_27 said:
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'GridironMenace said:
He's the biggest can't miss HB prospect since.....Reggie Bush? Whoops.
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Reggie bush was hardly a can't miss. A lot of folks didn't buy him as an NFL RB. In fact, most of those people would be surprIsed he's done as well as he has.
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That's a bit of an exaggeration. You think most people expected the #2 overall pick to be worse than a #2/#3 RB?
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Take a deep breath and read again.
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Ha, nothing to do with taking a deep breath, but I did misread that. Still don't think most doubters are surprised he's done as "well" as he has, it pretty much validates them- as a #2 overall pick, #1 in most FF drafts, he's been a bust.I do put Richardson closer to McFadden, Bush, Stewart, etc. (although above them) than he is to AP as a prospect myself.

 
'EBF said:
Hmmm...don't think plodding is the word I would use.This dude is a demon!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6u6gGEtoU
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Plodding may not be the word...but...my apologies to you because you are a big part of the reason I continue to visit this site.... Not looking for attention, just not seeing a elite RB here. I like his grit/balance/determination...but just not sure I would draft him over Blackmon/Luck/RG3. I see a Marshawn Lynch type back (in fact I think Lynch's college highlights are more impressive than Richardson's - not that highlights are the determining factor).....which is not bad....just not top 5 elite category. I think the big prize this year is the right pick between Luck & RG3.
 
'King of the Jungle said:
'EBF said:
Hmmm...don't think plodding is the word I would use.

This dude is a demon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ6u6gGEtoU
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Plodding may not be the word...but...my apologies to you because you are a big part of the reason I continue to visit this site.... Not looking for attention, just not seeing a elite RB here. I like his grit/balance/determination...but just not sure I would draft him over Blackmon/Luck/RG3. I see a Marshawn Lynch type back (in fact I think Lynch's college highlights are more impressive than Richardson's - not that highlights are the determining factor).....which is not bad....just not top 5 elite category. I think the big prize this year is the right pick between Luck & RG3.
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I don't see this at all - Richardson is much more solidly built, runs with far more power and played in a far tougher conference than Lynch.
 
Don't confuse what you see as "plodding" with, "running with your linemen before there's an opening".

 
I will be very interested to see his 40 time at the combine. It could be a wide range, I honestly can't tell. the guy is clearly a beast and Lynch is a good comparison I think

 
'Xue said:
Don't confuse what you see as "plodding" with, "running with your linemen before there's an opening".
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Plodding was not a good description. He looks to have decent short area straight line burst, but average speed. However very impressive balance and power and I think my comparison to Lynch is a compliment.
 
'King of the Jungle said:
'Hoss_Cartwright said:
'Xue said:
'Shutout said:
I just don't think this guy is going to be the lock people think he is.
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Curious what you don't like about Richardson. Thanks.
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Yes, talk is cheap. Everyone is a freaking expert, most with nothing to back it up.
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Generally I appreciate your input as contributing but your post is a double-edge sword. Last year Ingram was a can't miss and not to say he won't go on to have a great career....but....I think it is a legitimate question. What makes Richardson a can't miss outside of him being the top RB prospect this year? I think it is very important to pin down the top guy this year because I think one of Luck. RG3, and Richardson can become a serious contender for a top 5 at their position. Those who have a high dynasty rookie pick will have a chance to grab one of these guys and just going with the crowd may end up burning them. It is usually not common that a QB is taken too high in rookie drafts unless it is a 2QB system. However looking back I would have happily drafted Peyton Manning #1 his rookie year if I knew I could lock up a starting stud QB for the next umpteen years. Luck has hype and RG3 has potential (especially when you throw in what Newton did his first year). I am not knocking Richardson but those who compare him to AP are blinded by a new shiny toy (not saying you are doing that). He has great strength, near-perfect build....but is he an elite prospect? Moreno and Ingram both look average to me. Ingram could probably still put good numbers because of the offense he is in but I would no longer consider him an elite talent. I know very little compared to most but I would like some more evidence that Richardson is as cant miss as many make him out to be.I am babbling now.....
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Good posting here. I think guys with the #1 in PPR rookie drafts will likely take Richardson, but will have to consider Luck and Blackmon as well. I think RG3 is great prospect too. People have been burned by top picks before, as you mentioned above. Ingram was the consensus top pick last year and I think most people regret that decision. Granted it was only one year, but drafters of Ingram have to be a little upset and concerned about him. The longevity issue is also of concern. If Luck is a Peyton Manning guy like you mention, you get him for 10+ years. RBs can burn out quick, and ACL injuries are a consistent worry. I like Richardson, and as a holder of the #1 rookie pick :bag: in one league I'm guessing I'll take him. But part of me is asking now - and will wonder later if he is definitely the guy over Luck and Blackmon.
 
this is a funny time of year to me. if the trent ends up in cleveland. no thanks. there is no such thing as a can't miss prospect. the likelihood of this class having an peyton manning style qb in luck and a top 3 NFL rb like peterson in richardson is even lower if the luck thing is correct.

I think in PPR leagues, people will regret looking over blackmon imo.

 
'EBF said:
For starters, he's a vastly superior athlete to Ingram and Moreno. The combine will prove that. Neither of those guys really had this kind of hype entering the league, but whatever...
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He can bench press 500lbs and is agile and can pass protect. Nobody is ever a %100 lock to be a great NFL player, but he is very close.
 
'King of the Jungle said:
What would be a destination for Richardson? I have seen mocks with him as high as #5 to Tampa...
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I think he will fall to the 15 range. If so he could be fantasy gold if he were to end up in a place like NYJ or Cinci. Many mocks have him going to KC but I think that is simply because he's regarded as a top 10 talent in the draft and they want to force him into that range. RBs fall in the draft and there are a lot of top end talent at other positions so I think he will end up lower than expected.
 
'Ramblin Wreck said:
'gump said:
My favorite stat:Trent is the only RB in SEC history to rush for 20 TDs.
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10 of them were against Kent St, North Texas, and a terrible Ole Miss team. Just saying...
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He also barely played in the 4th quarter of several games...including Ole Miss.Didn't mean to get into a debate about that stats meaningfulness....I just love the stat, considering the history of SEC RBs.
 
'jurb26 said:
'King of the Jungle said:
What would be a destination for Richardson? I have seen mocks with him as high as #5 to Tampa...
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I think he will fall to the 15 range. If so he could be fantasy gold if he were to end up in a place like NYJ or Cinci. Many mocks have him going to KC but I think that is simply because he's regarded as a top 10 talent in the draft and they want to force him into that range. RBs fall in the draft and there are a lot of top end talent at other positions so I think he will end up lower than expected.
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I was going to say pretty much the same thing - I think he slips into the middle of the 1st at least. While Richardson may have a ton of talent, RBs often slip in the NFL drafts. Don't forget that even AP slipped almost out of the top 10, and Ingram barely went in the 1st. We obviously value them more highly in fantasy. It's a passing league now, and many teams may not want to spend a high pick on him if they can get a good - even if not as good as Richardson - prospect later, even if it's in the 2nd or 3rd round.
 
'jurb26 said:
'King of the Jungle said:
What would be a destination for Richardson? I have seen mocks with him as high as #5 to Tampa...
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I think he will fall to the 15 range. If so he could be fantasy gold if he were to end up in a place like NYJ or Cinci. Many mocks have him going to KC but I think that is simply because he's regarded as a top 10 talent in the draft and they want to force him into that range. RBs fall in the draft and there are a lot of top end talent at other positions so I think he will end up lower than expected.
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Cinci seems like a great landing spot, although I hate my RBs facing Pitt/Balt twice a year.
 
I think Richardson's pre-draft stock will be similar to Julio Jones' last year. Many observers felt that Julio was a step slow before the combine and he blew it out of the water. I think the same thing will happen with Richardson.

 
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