Robert Meachem (1 Viewer)

[Block]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

It's not just the drops. Many receivers have drops from time to time.It's the combination of the weight gain, the knee problem, the obvious fear of going over the middle, the mediocre route running, the drops, and the fact that he really looks like a one-trick-pony at this point (speed).

He's a rookie and was playing his 1st pre-season game. Not to mention Palko totally offered that poor guy up for human sacrifice.

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

 

[jurb26]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

It's not just the drops. Many receivers have drops from time to time.It's the combination of the weight gain, the knee problem, the obvious fear of going over the middle, the mediocre route running, the drops, and the fact that he really looks like a one-trick-pony at this point (speed).

He's a rookie and was playing his 1st pre-season game. Not to mention Palko totally offered that poor guy up for human sacrifice.

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

 

[Block]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

It's not just the drops. Many receivers have drops from time to time.It's the combination of the weight gain, the knee problem, the obvious fear of going over the middle, the mediocre route running, the drops, and the fact that he really looks like a one-trick-pony at this point (speed).

He's a rookie and was playing his 1st pre-season game. Not to mention Palko totally offered that poor guy up for human sacrifice.

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

Most of them have done something in the NFL before.

 

[chris1969]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

It's not just the drops. Many receivers have drops from time to time.It's the combination of the weight gain, the knee problem, the obvious fear of going over the middle, the mediocre route running, the drops, and the fact that he really looks like a one-trick-pony at this point (speed).

He's a rookie and was playing his 1st pre-season game. Not to mention Palko totally offered that poor guy up for human sacrifice.

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

Most of them have done something in the NFL before.

Apperently that most of em comment doesn't include those CB's.

 

[Block]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

It's not just the drops. Many receivers have drops from time to time.It's the combination of the weight gain, the knee problem, the obvious fear of going over the middle, the mediocre route running, the drops, and the fact that he really looks like a one-trick-pony at this point (speed).

He's a rookie and was playing his 1st pre-season game. Not to mention Palko totally offered that poor guy up for human sacrifice.

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

Most of them have done something in the NFL before.

Apperently that most of em comment doesn't include those CB's.

Well, look. Those CBs aren't eligible for most fantasy teams.

 

[jurb26]

Colston had 2 drops as well. Better drop him from your team and draft board as well.

It's not just the drops. Many receivers have drops from time to time.It's the combination of the weight gain, the knee problem, the obvious fear of going over the middle, the mediocre route running, the drops, and the fact that he really looks like a one-trick-pony at this point (speed).

He's a rookie and was playing his 1st pre-season game. Not to mention Palko totally offered that poor guy up for human sacrifice.

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

Most of them have done something in the NFL before.

Apperently that most of em comment doesn't include those CB's.

Well, look. Those CBs aren't eligible for most fantasy teams.

I'll be pretty happy to start my WRs vs them. That has to count for something.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Robert Meachem interviewed back in January (and no I don't have the link anymore).Reporter: 'What was your reason for declaring?'Meachem: 'I'm cashing in'.Me: Robert Meachem gets crossed off draft board.

I guy wants to benefit financially as he reaches the goal he's set for himself making it to the NFL and he's off the board? J

But THAT is not the answer you give. That answer comes across as my interests are ONLY money. As true as it may be. The correct answer is, 'I have done all I can at this level and I want to prove myself at the next level'. NOT 'I'm cashing in'. Last night he showed what a guy who is 'cashing in' plays like.

I know you said you don't have a link but I'd like to see where he really said that. I'd say that was taken way out of context knowing what I know of the guy. I'd like to see the full quote.J

It happened. The discussion of this at the time was in the NFL Draft Countdown website. At the time when I brought up the statement in the article posted, others said 'so what, he can say that, it doesn't hurt his draft value'. No one seemed to understand the red flag of 'I'm cashing in'. He mentioned 'family blah blah blah' but he said 'I'm cashing in.' Either that or the writer changed what he said but it was printed in the article that way.

I'm sure the full quote is out there in a link with all the draft information that's available. Until I see it in context, I'm going to assume it was taken out of context. If you're worried about the guy being a bad kid or not a hard worker or someone that's going to go easy once he cashes in, I saw quite a bit of him over his entire career at UT that I put a lot more weight on than a quote that I think is likely taken out of context. Or even in context, was a poor answer. I don't let 5 seconds of an interview outweigh the guy's entire college career because that quote and the career don't match up.J

 

[vichawkfan]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

don't fall into the Saints trap here. Just because they pulled a complete rabbit out their #### last year with Colston, doesn't mean that they are blessed with WR drafting wisdom. FF rule #19 - (don't assume past success = future success)

 

[Afro Samurai]

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

Please tell me you are kidding with THIS comment.......

 

[Statorama]

I'm really curious to see how he responds in his next game. His toughness is going to be questioned a lot this week, and it will be interesting to see how he reacts to that. Trust me, once the DB's know that a guy is a Nancy, they put that little extra oomph into their hits.

 

[SproutDaddy]

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

Please tell me you are kidding with THIS comment.......

It was the freakin' Hall of Fame game.

 

[chook]

First, had that been Bowe running across the middle, he wouldn't have gotten laid out; the guy hitting him would have bounced off him. Meachem has no muscle tone; injuries will pile on if he spends any time going over the middle.

Also, if you watch the play Meachem dropped the ball before the guy even hit him. The drop was not caused by the hit.

And yes, a few plays later he ducked for cover. Keep in mind, this is playing against guys who probably won't even make the Steelers' final roster.

For your sake, it would be better if you came around on Meachem sooner rather than later. The guy won't amount to anything in the NFL.

Therefore these guys would be hitting harder in their limited playing time, trying to make an impression, no?

 

[jurb26]

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

Please tell me you are kidding with THIS comment.......

It was the freakin' Hall of Fame game.

Well, hell let's just not play these games at all anymore then!

 

[SproutDaddy]

The whole game was a test and every NO player failed.

Please tell me you are kidding with THIS comment.......

It was the freakin' Hall of Fame game.

Well, hell let's just not play these games at all anymore then!

 

[saintfool]

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

He's missed almost all of the season training opportunities. He was essentially getting some extra reps in the game. He needs every chance he can find to get ready for the season. I don't see how you can read this much into a player's future during garbage time of a meaningless game.

 

[redman]

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

He's missed almost all of the season training opportunities. He was essentially getting some extra reps in the game. He needs every chance he can find to get ready for the season. I don't see how you can read this much into a player's future during garbage time of a meaningless game.

Again, if the problem was running the wrong route, dropping passes, failing to get separation, etc., I'd actually be far more willing to ignore it for the reasons stated. Those are all issues that can be addressed through work and practice. Ducking contact, however, is a problem that can't be coached away, not to mention the fact that it implies some rather dire things about his toughness and or level of seriousness in learning his craft at the NFL level if he was thinking it was "just garbage time in the HoF game". I'm drawing no long term conclusions here, but this is definitely a red flag for me.

 

[massraider]

I'm drawing no long term conclusions here, but this is definitely a red flag for me.

Agreed. If he looked great, that would be a nice sign. So why isn't the fact that he didn't look good a bad sign? All the rooks are unknown quantities, so it seems to make sense that people are trying to read the tea leaves. I haven't heard much good about this guy since he was drafted. There were questions about his conditioning, some injuries, and his performance in his first game.Does every drop mean he should get knocked further down draft boards? No. But it sure would be better if he was catching them.

 

[Warpig]

There's a reason the Saints coaches had Meachem out there with the last string guys in the 4th quarter going over the middle. It was a test, and he failed.

He's missed almost all of the season training opportunities. He was essentially getting some extra reps in the game. He needs every chance he can find to get ready for the season. I don't see how you can read this much into a player's future during garbage time of a meaningless game.

Again, if the problem was running the wrong route, dropping passes, failing to get separation, etc., I'd actually be far more willing to ignore it for the reasons stated. Those are all issues that can be addressed through work and practice. Ducking contact, however, is a problem that can't be coached away, not to mention the fact that it implies some rather dire things about his toughness and or level of seriousness in learning his craft at the NFL level if he was thinking it was "just garbage time in the HoF game". I'm drawing no long term conclusions here, but this is definitely a red flag for me.

Exactly...can't coach heart.I guess those DB's that were teeing off on Meachem were just trying harder than Meachem.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

I've voiced this opinion several times on this board that perhaps the closest comparison to Meachem was TO in the early stages of his career both in his skillset and the way he is/was utilized. Ability to make the first guy miss, can shrug off tackles and has the deep speed to boot. What Meachem needs to learn is how to run crisper routes. Bowe is more comparable to the present day version of TO who can realize his role in an offense and excel at it rather than being a versatile threat like he was with the niners.

Regardless, I'm not going to put much stock into a single play. As many have mentioned, he has been banged up this offseason and likely didn't want to risk further time on the sidelines. He has a history of injury, and I'm not sure I can blame him for wanting to avoid re-aggravation for a meaningless catch in the initial preseason game. Keep in mind he was the most touted prospect coming out of high school and did not live up to expectations in college simply due to injury. I'm sure he doesn't want to repeat that episode now that he has a shot at NFL playing time.

But that said, if he does shy away from contact over the middle, it would put a damper on his chances to become an elite player in this league, certainly something he has the potential to do. I like his value long term but problems must be corrected now or else face the persecution of armchair QB's on message boards a la Todd Pinkston.

Time to move on or move out.

 

[Neo]

More bad news:

Meachem tweaks knee

--Robert Meachem continues to struggle. He appeared to tweak his right knee while making a cut Thursday and hobbled through the rest of the practice. He needs to make something happen Friday to restore the confidence of the coaching staff. Right now, the first-round pick is no better than the team's sixth receiver, and that's only because Jamal Jones is out with a knee injury.

 

[Warhogs]

I had a draft shortly after the NFL draft and took Meachem with a middle round (6-8) pick. All the bad news is concerning and I am now putting him in the middle of round 2 in my upcoming rookie draft. Too early to jusdge him but lots of bad stuff so far for the guy.

 

[saintfool]

More bad news:

Meachem tweaks knee

--Robert Meachem continues to struggle. He appeared to tweak his right knee while making a cut Thursday and hobbled through the rest of the practice. He needs to make something happen Friday to restore the confidence of the coaching staff. Right now, the first-round pick is no better than the team's sixth receiver, and that's only because Jamal Jones is out with a knee injury.

It's death by a thousand cuts for this guy's fantasy career....

 

[Chaos Commish]

Some of you don't want to overreact to one play, but this was my take on Meachem back in May:

While being a very solid and physical runner after the catch, he is scared to go over the middle and make plays.

If you scroll up in that thread it was my opinion that:

of the top 6 or so WRs that Meachem was the top candidate to bust

I probably didn't see as much of Tennessee as Joe, but I did see a good dozen games in Meach's career. I take notes when I watch college football and I noted four different times (all from different games) as follows: "plays scared, tentative over the middle, loves the sideline hates the middle, won't make tough plays for the ball but runs tough with it."My point is that his issues with danger and contact have been discussed here and elsewhere at length, so this isn't a reaction to one play.

 

[cowboymouth]

take this for what its worth...the other day I was listening to a local hour long radio show all about the Saints. they were interviewing a 'beat' writer (via cell phone) who has been to every practice. the question was, 'if this guy was not robert meacham, wouldn't he be a practice squad guy?'....the 'beat' writer paused for a long time, prompting the radio guys, thinking he did not hear the question or they had lost him, he finally said, "yes, yes he would". he went on to say there are days he looks good but more days he looks like he has never played football in his life. he thought Meacham, barring severe injuries to the wr core, would not be a factor at all this year and he was concerned with future with the Saints.

 

[saintfool]

Some of you don't want to overreact to one play, but this was my take on Meachem back in May:

While being a very solid and physical runner after the catch, he is scared to go over the middle and make plays.

If you scroll up in that thread it was my opinion that:

of the top 6 or so WRs that Meachem was the top candidate to bust

I probably didn't see as much of Tennessee as Joe, but I did see a good dozen games in Meach's career. I take notes when I watch college football and I noted four different times (all from different games) as follows: "plays scared, tentative over the middle, loves the sideline hates the middle, won't make tough plays for the ball but runs tough with it."My point is that his issues with danger and contact have been discussed here and elsewhere at length, so this isn't a reaction to one play.

there are plenty of WRs that are not comfortable with catching in the middle, in traffic or the like. there are reasons why guys who work the middle stand out. meachem is a burner. there are many, many WRs that are the deep threats for their teams. meachem needs to learn that new position/role a little. however, more importantly, he has to get the strength training to beat the jamming at the line which is thwarting him. he has no value as a speed or deep threat if he can't get off the line of scrimmage.

 

[cstu]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

don't fall into the Saints trap here. Just because they pulled a complete rabbit out their #### last year with Colston, doesn't mean that they are blessed with WR drafting wisdom. FF rule #19 - (don't assume past success = future success)

However, they did use a 1st round pick on a position that wasn't considered weak while they had more pressing needs. That tells me they saw something in Meachem that they really liked. They could be wrong about his ability, but it's a very good sign of what they want to do with him.There's a lot of short-term memory going on in this thread and people seem to forget that many successful WR's didn't set the world on fire their first preseason game.

 

[identikit]

First of all he got blew up on that one hit which he dropped. Then the next time they threw it to him he short armed it and ducked to avoid being hit. What the heck is that all about? This was a very troubling sign for me, enough to want to make me avoid him like the plague in dynasty leagues, which is a shame because I had him after the NFL draft as the #2 wr behind CJ. PLUS I've heard that he's been struggling during camp. Am I overreacting to a preseason game?

don't fall into the Saints trap here. Just because they pulled a complete rabbit out their #### last year with Colston, doesn't mean that they are blessed with WR drafting wisdom. FF rule #19 - (don't assume past success = future success)

However, they did use a 1st round pick on a position that wasn't considered weak while they had more pressing needs. That tells me they saw something in Meachem that they really liked. They could be wrong about his ability, but it's a very good sign of what they want to do with him.There's a lot of short-term memory going on in this thread and people seem to forget that many successful WR's didn't set the world on fire their first preseason game.

Id

 

[Warhogs]

Meachem caught a couple passes and scored a short TD. Finally, something positive for the kid. Maybe that can get him going?

 

[CrossEyed]

Meachem caught a couple passes and scored a short TD. Finally, something positive for the kid. Maybe that can get him going?

He also had at least one pass go right through his hands.

 

[el-gato-grande]

Henderson had a much better game. Saints homers - are these guys competing for the same starting position?

 

[Warhogs]

Henderson had a much better game. Saints homers - are these guys competing for the same starting position?

Anyone who thinks Meachem is a threat to steal a starting job at this point is kidding themselves.

 

[Warhogs]

Meachem caught a couple passes and scored a short TD. Finally, something positive for the kid. Maybe that can get him going?

He also had at least one pass go right through his hands.

I was just pointing out he had a few positives for the first time in a long while. I'm not sure why some posters can't give a little credit when he does a couple positive things.CrossEyed must be a Meachem hater or something?

 

[JaxBill]

Am I the only one who thought that Meacham's knee was out during his TD catch last night?

 

[identikit]

Am I the only one who thought that Meacham's knee was out during his TD catch last night?

No, you're not.He was out of bounds for sure.Id

 

[moleculo]

Meachem caught a couple passes and scored a short TD. Finally, something positive for the kid. Maybe that can get him going?

He also had at least one pass go right through his hands.

I was just pointing out he had a few positives for the first time in a long while. I'm not sure why some posters can't give a little credit when he does a couple positive things.CrossEyed must be a Meachem hater or something?

I saw him miss at least one pass - and immediately thought of this thread.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Am I the only one who thought that Meacham's knee was out during his TD catch last night?

yes. his foot dragged before his knee hit the ground.

 

[Gopher State]

Henderson had a much better game. Saints homers - are these guys competing for the same starting position?

Anyone who thinks Meachem is a threat to steal a starting job at this point is kidding themselves.

I agree Henderson looked excellent last night a true deep threat, I don't see Meachem stealing his time, and Copper didn't look bad either, Colston looked the weakest of the bunch, but it's only pre-season so I don't worry to much about his performance.