Rodney Harrison voted NFL dirtiest player (1 Viewer)

[Wingnut]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/play...0/17/poll.1017/

SI Players Poll [based on a survey of 361 NFL players]

Who is the dirtiest player in the NFL?

Rodney Harrison, Patriots.....23%

Joey Porter, Steelers.....6%

Jon Runyan, Eagles.....6%

Warren Sapp, Raiders.....5%

Kyle Turley, Chiefs.....4%

Hines Ward, Steelers.....4%

Sean Taylor, Redskins.....3%

John Lynch, Broncos.....3%

Kevin Mawae, Titans.....3%

Olin Kreutz, Bears.....2%

FAST FACTS:

Chiefs T Kyle Turley was fifth (4.1%), even though he missed all of 2004 and '05 (back injury)

More than 48% of WRs chose Harrison

Porter got 26.8% of votes within the AFC North

Steelers WR Hines Ward was the top vote-getter among skill position players (3.7%)

The only QB to draw a vote was Patriot Tom Brady

Titans DT Albert Haynesworth, serving a five-game ban for stomping on the face of Dallas C Andre Gurode, didn't get a vote because the poll was conducted in the preseason.

one player voted Brady.

 

[DawnBTVS]

It's probably those QB sneaks... we all know Brady's gouging eyes and punching opposing DT's and DE's but the cameras never catch it.

 

[Banger]

well deserved...

 

[Young 8]

wow.......4% for Hines "MR. NICE GUY" Ward

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Porter got 26.8% of votes within the AFC North

Probably the entire Ravens team, still salty about the Todd Heap thing a couple years ago.

 

[diesel7982]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

 

[BoltBacker]

BS from SI.

Who'da thunk?

 

[BoltBacker]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

If you added all the shots Harrison has taken at players knees together over the course of his career you'd get a # lower then one Bronco OL'man over the course of a single season.

 

[JuniorNB]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

 

[diesel7982]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

 

[428143]

BS from SI.Who'da thunk?

You mean BS from the players?

 

[kentric]

It's probably those QB sneaks... we all know Brady's gouging eyes and punching opposing DT's and DE's but the cameras never catch it.

I hear he's pretty good about "giving them the business"

 

[BoltBacker]

BS from SI.Who'da thunk?

You mean BS from the players?

If the players honestly believe John Lynch is the eighth most dirty player in the league, then yes. Maybe I haven't watched closely enough but he doesn't stand out as a dirty player to me at all. Do you think he's the eighth most diry player in the league?

 

[GregR_2]

wow.......4% for Hines "MR. NICE GUY" Ward

Ward is a perennial contender in this poll.

 

[Dope]

Brady voted for himself.

He wanted to lose some of the "goody two shoes super all american" sheen that he has gathered.

 

[perry147]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

 

[CrossEyed]

While I've seen Porter give a cheap shot or two over the years, I don't think Ward deserves to be on this list. The guy just goes hard EVERY play. I think that just irritates some DBs and they don't like him because of it.

ETA: Harrison at #1 is well-deserved.

 

[Mapmaker]

Funny how Mr. Horsecollar Roy Williams never made that list ... is SI's home office Dallas I wonder ?

 

[Pedro Cerrano Fan]

Funny how Mr. Horsecollar Roy Williams never made that list ... is SI's home office Dallas I wonder ?

Perhaps because this is a YEARLY poll? Has Roy Williams horsecollared anyone this year?

 

[redman]

It's probably those QB sneaks... we all know Brady's gouging eyes and punching opposing DT's and DE's but the cameras never catch it.

Two words: "tuck rule"

 

[Serenity Now]

I'm pretty sure it was Manning who voted for Brady.

 

[redman]

I'm pretty sure it was Manning Bledsoe who voted for Brady.

Fixed.

 

[Barry]

BS from SI.Who'da thunk?

You mean BS from the players?

If the players honestly believe John Lynch is the eighth most dirty player in the league, then yes. Maybe I haven't watched closely enough but he doesn't stand out as a dirty player to me at all. Do you think he's the eighth most diry player in the league?

yeah what do the players know? You can pick up a lot of things while on the couch watching hi-lites.

 

[pantofful]

I'd say most of this is jealousy... look at it, with the exception of Mawae & Sapp all these players are on teams that have been winning, and Sapp & Mawae's reputations are what are most likely getting the votes, and those reps were built in Tampa & New York on much better teams than they currently reside... I just think it's interesting.

As a Bears fan I can say that Olin isn't even the dirtiest player on his own team (that would be Todd Johnson), but since he's a visible member of an O-line that blocked pretty feircely last year he gets in...

Also, the only reason that there's not more Broncos on there is because the O-line probably split all the votes between each other, so all 5 of them probably received votes, but not enough to make the top10.

 

[Nemesis Enforcer]

I am just glad that Tom Brady is being exposed for the dirty player he is. It's too bad the NFL isn't cracking down harder on his antics.

(just in case its not clear)

 

[Otis]

Roy Williams down?

 

[delusional]

wow.......4% for Hines "MR. ARROGANT" Ward

 

[delusional]

Funny how Mr. Horsecollar Roy Williams never made that list ... is SI's home office Dallas I wonder ?

Perhaps because this is a YEARLY poll? Has Roy Williams horsecollared anyone this year?

was conducted in the pre season

 

[xcheck2430]

there are a lot more physical recievers that push off and tangle arms and i guess i havent seen ward do it. As for Mawae, he used to punch nosetackles in the stomach (J--E-T-S!). Lynch got in there because he hits insanely hard, hitting harder than most linebackers.

 

[Warehouse Nasty]

BS from SI.Who'da thunk?

You mean BS from the players?

If the players honestly believe John Lynch is the eighth most dirty player in the league, then yes. Maybe I haven't watched closely enough but he doesn't stand out as a dirty player to me at all. Do you think he's the eighth most diry player in the league?

Call me crazy, but I'd think that players who played against him might be just a little more qualified to judge than innernet message board geeks.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

 

[BoltBacker]

BS from SI.Who'da thunk?

You mean BS from the players?

If the players honestly believe John Lynch is the eighth most dirty player in the league, then yes. Maybe I haven't watched closely enough but he doesn't stand out as a dirty player to me at all. Do you think he's the eighth most diry player in the league?

Call me crazy, but I'd think that players who played against him might be just a little more qualified to judge than innernet message board geeks.

My favorite.The "Well, if Matt Millen wasn't smarter than the rest of us he wouldn't have the job!" response.Well done.

 

[perry147]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

 

[Borat]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

So what were the two rings that he's won over the past three seasons?Badmouth Rodney for being a dirty player all you want, but he's in the same category as Joey Porter: guys who opposing fans might hate, but you'd love to have him on your side and you'd take him in a heartbeat. And your team would be a lot better off because of it.

Brady voted for himself.

He wanted to lose some of the "goody two shoes super all american" sheen that he has gathered.

That may be Brady's reputation among housewives and teenyboppers, but in the NFL, Brady has the respect of every player on the field, as a tough player, as a competitor, and of course as a winner.

While I've seen Porter give a cheap shot or two over the years, I don't think Ward deserves to be on this list. The guy just goes hard EVERY play. I think that just irritates some DBs and they don't like him because of it.

Is this really what you think? Why is it that of all the WRs who go hard on every play, Ward is the only one to make this list? Please don't tell me it's because he is good at blocking. Ward is of course an exceptional blocking WR, but he's hardly the only WR in the league who goes hard on every play and is a good blocker.

So why is Ward the only one to make this list (and I'm almost positive that this isn't his first time making this list)?

 

[diesel7982]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

So what were the two rings that he's won over the past three seasons?Badmouth Rodney for being a dirty player all you want, but he's in the same category as Joey Porter: guys who opposing fans might hate, but you'd love to have him on your side and you'd take him in a heartbeat. And your team would be a lot better off because of it.

Brady voted for himself.

He wanted to lose some of the "goody two shoes super all american" sheen that he has gathered.

That may be Brady's reputation among housewives and teenyboppers, but in the NFL, Brady has the respect of every player on the field, as a tough player, as a competitor, and of course as a winner.

While I've seen Porter give a cheap shot or two over the years, I don't think Ward deserves to be on this list. The guy just goes hard EVERY play. I think that just irritates some DBs and they don't like him because of it.

Is this really what you think? Why is it that of all the WRs who go hard on every play, Ward is the only one to make this list? Please don't tell me it's because he is good at blocking. Ward is of course an exceptional blocking WR, but he's hardly the only WR in the league who goes hard on every play and is a good blocker.

So why is Ward the only one to make this list (and I'm almost positive that this isn't his first time making this list)?

Im missing how your point was relevant to this thread...

 

[Borat]

BS from SI.Who'da thunk?

You mean BS from the players?

If the players honestly believe John Lynch is the eighth most dirty player in the league, then yes. Maybe I haven't watched closely enough but he doesn't stand out as a dirty player to me at all. Do you think he's the eighth most diry player in the league?

Call me crazy, but I'd think that players who played against him might be just a little more qualified to judge than innernet message board geeks.

My favorite.The "Well, if Matt Millen wasn't smarter than the rest of us he wouldn't have the job!" response.Well done.

Terrible comparison.

 

[Borat]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

So what were the two rings that he's won over the past three seasons?Badmouth Rodney for being a dirty player all you want, but he's in the same category as Joey Porter: guys who opposing fans might hate, but you'd love to have him on your side and you'd take him in a heartbeat. And your team would be a lot better off because of it.

Brady voted for himself.

He wanted to lose some of the "goody two shoes super all american" sheen that he has gathered.

That may be Brady's reputation among housewives and teenyboppers, but in the NFL, Brady has the respect of every player on the field, as a tough player, as a competitor, and of course as a winner.

While I've seen Porter give a cheap shot or two over the years, I don't think Ward deserves to be on this list. The guy just goes hard EVERY play. I think that just irritates some DBs and they don't like him because of it.

Is this really what you think? Why is it that of all the WRs who go hard on every play, Ward is the only one to make this list? Please don't tell me it's because he is good at blocking. Ward is of course an exceptional blocking WR, but he's hardly the only WR in the league who goes hard on every play and is a good blocker.

So why is Ward the only one to make this list (and I'm almost positive that this isn't his first time making this list)?

Im missing how your point was relevant to this thread...

The part where I responded to your pinning Rodney's injury on karma, or other parts of it? Or all of it?For whatever it's worth, I also kind of missed how your "point" was relevant to the thread, but I chose to address it rather than question in its place in the thread.

 

[BoltBacker]

Terrible comparison.

How so? There are people that will stand up and say "You can't criticize what someone in the NFL does/says because they are in the league and know more than we do". Seems ridiculous to me but people do it every season. Aren't the players in the NFL because they are great at PLAYING the game, it has nothing to do with their ability to evaluate other players.

 

[xcheck2430]

The part where I responded to your pinning Rodney's injury on karma, or other parts of it? Or all of it?

No one said anything about any of these players being untalented. They may play dirty, but ALL of these players are some of the best at their respective positions. To go even further, some of these players are some of the best to EVER play their positions. I can say right now than at least 5 of these players should end up in the HoF if their careers continue as they have been. (harrison, porter, sapp, lynch, mawae)

 

[Borat]

Terrible comparison.

How so? There are people that will stand up and say "You can't criticize what someone in the NFL does/says because they are in the league and know more than we do". Seems ridiculous to me but people do it every season. Aren't the players in the NFL because they are great at PLAYING the game, it has nothing to do with their ability to evaluate other players.

The way I see things, it just doesn't take a genius to recognize a cheapshot, especially if you're one of the players on the field at the time. In fact, you could know little-to-nothing about the game, and you'd still probably be able to pick out most cheapshots.And I'll take it a step further: the players are privy to conversations with their teammates that we (the fans) simply are not. For example, if you're a WR who's been in the league for 10 years, you probably won't have to deal with defensive linemen very often over the course of your career. But if you hear your teammates (offensive linemen, for example) complain about the same guys year in and year out, you'll have better information about who the dirty ones are than the casual fan might.It's not rocket science, it's fairly plain to see, those on the field have a better view, and players talk to one another - for these reasons, I just feel that the players themselves are a lot more qualified to answer these questions than you or I.I don't feel that there is a similar comparison to be made between GMs and fans, which is why I didn't like your comparison.Just one man's opinion...

 

[Borat]

The part where I responded to your pinning Rodney's injury on karma, or other parts of it? Or all of it?

No one said anything about any of these players being untalented. They may play dirty, but ALL of these players are some of the best at their respective positions. To go even further, some of these players are some of the best to EVER play their positions. I can say right now than at least 5 of these players should end up in the HoF if their careers continue as they have been. (harrison, porter, sapp, lynch, mawae)

Oh, I realize that. I was just making the point that the guys who get the "dirty" label are often guys that you'd love to have on your own team.As an aside, I disagree with your opinion on the HoFers. I don't think any of those guys belong in the Hall, with the possible exceptions of Harrison and Mawae, neither of whom will end up making it, in my opinion.

 

[BoltBacker]

Terrible comparison.

How so? There are people that will stand up and say "You can't criticize what someone in the NFL does/says because they are in the league and know more than we do". Seems ridiculous to me but people do it every season. Aren't the players in the NFL because they are great at PLAYING the game, it has nothing to do with their ability to evaluate other players.

It's not rocket science, it's fairly plain to see, those on the field have a better view, and players talk to one another - for these reasons, I just feel that the players themselves are a lot more qualified to answer these questions than you or I.

But if it's not rocket science and fairly plaine to see then why would being an NFL player have an advantage in making the decision? Completely disagree with players having a better view of the field while the play is going on. Have you ever stood on the sidelines of a football game(or played for that matter)? You see much less of the field than most spectators. The truth is the players and the fans see every play replayed to them ad-nauseum and I think this is a contributing factor in this instance because everyone remembers the Trent Green injury in STL. Plays like that happen all the time, Trent Green just happened to get injured on that particular play. I agree that the players talk to one another, and do in fact base much of their opinion on nothing more than what another teamate has told them but haven't actually seen happen themselves. Opinoins based on second-hand anecdotal evidence certainly aren't above criticism to be sure.

 

[redman]

Terrible comparison.

How so? There are people that will stand up and say "You can't criticize what someone in the NFL does/says because they are in the league and know more than we do". Seems ridiculous to me but people do it every season. Aren't the players in the NFL because they are great at PLAYING the game, it has nothing to do with their ability to evaluate other players.

It's not rocket science, it's fairly plain to see, those on the field have a better view, and players talk to one another - for these reasons, I just feel that the players themselves are a lot more qualified to answer these questions than you or I.

But if it's not rocket science and fairly plaine to see then why would being an NFL player have an advantage in making the decision? Completely disagree with players having a better view of the field while the play is going on. Have you ever stood on the sidelines of a football game(or played for that matter)? You see much less of the field than most spectators. The truth is the players and the fans see every play replayed to them ad-nauseum and I think this is a contributing factor in this instance because everyone remembers the Trent Green injury in STL. Plays like that happen all the time, Trent Green just happened to get injured on that particular play. I agree that the players talk to one another, and do in fact base much of their opinion on nothing more than what another teamate has told them but haven't actually seen happen themselves. Opinoins based on second-hand anecdotal evidence certainly aren't above criticism to be sure.

Rampant speculation is fun!

 

[Dt's Mules]

Thing about Roy Williams is that no WR will ever vote him as a dirty player. He seems to almost curtsey as they go running by him on their routes.

 

[ChampBailey24]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

 

[JuniorNB]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic fitting that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

Fixed...And, agreed.

Also, the votes for Ward must have come from pansy DBs that don't like being blocked.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Harrison never saw an unprotected knee he didnt like.

Kind of ironic that he got his knee tore up last year, huh?

That was beautiful, beautiful karma.

I hate to wish injury to any player but Harrison takes shots at knees when other options are available and likely to be more effective. The guy tries to hurt other players.

He's not alone. I don't know for NFL players but our coaches always tell us to hit and hurt the other team, has to be the same in the NFL.

Your coach told you to go for another players knees and joints?There is a big difference between playing tough and trying to hurt someone.

yeah...they told us places to target when we hit.

Your high school coach should be fired and, possibly, arrested.

And definitely beaten severly enough to require some hospitalization. What a scumbag.Honestly, if one of my coaches did anything like that I would have been diving at his knees any time I was near the sidelines...

 

[BoltBacker]

Rampant speculation is fun!

Speculation that pro-athletes talk to other pro-athletes?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Rampant speculation is fun!

Speculation that pro-athletes talk to other pro-athletes?

Yeah... Have you ever heard an NFL player talk about another NFL player when the cameras weren't rolling, nor tape recorders recording, nor witnesses listening? Well, have you?If an NFL player talks to another NFL player in the woods, and no non-NFL players are around did the discussion ever take place?