Rolando McClain (1 Viewer)

[CaptainCrunch]

In Dyanasty PPR leagues with a rookie re-draft- how high would consider taking McClain? Assume scoring along the lines of 1pt per rec, 1 pt per 20 yards 6 pts TD and 2pts per tackle 1 pt per assist 4 pts per sack and 4 pts per INT.

 

[jsharlan]

he went 1.05 in one of my dynasty rookie drafts earlier this week. I would take him in the second half of the first round and never look back.

 

[Zoomanji]

I saw him go 1.03 in a 12 team league. Total reach there IMO but the guy also had 1.02.

I had him slotted around 1.07 and may have gone as high as 1.05. 1.09 or later is a steal IMO

 

[Shutout]

In leagues with similar scoring, I have seen him go at 1.09 and 1.10 and then I got him at 1.14 in one league and was SHOCKED that I got him there. I think anywhere between 10 and 12 is the 95 percentile range where you'd see him go.

 

[Zoomanji]

In leagues with similar scoring, I have seen him go at 1.09 and 1.10 and then I got him at 1.14 in one league and was SHOCKED that I got him there. I think anywhere between 10 and 12 is the 95 percentile range where you'd see him go.

I think that is lowMy leagues are all similar in scoring (12 teams) and he went:1.03 (That's an outlier)1.06 (16 teams)1.071.061.07and FWIW- in a 32 team league- 1.03

 

[massraider]

It is pretty rare that you can get a solid starter for the next 5+ years in the 2nd half of the 1st round.

McClain has no competition for his starting job, the Raiders are as much of a lock to remain in the 4-3 as any team in football (allowing him to keep his value), and he should be a 3-down guy from Day 1.

2 pts per tackle? I think you can start thinking about him after 1.04.

 

[J Giles Band]

12-team keeper/contract league. We've yet to hold our rookie draft, but I hold the #2, #5, #8 & #12 picks and I'm really high on McClain.

I can't see pulling the trigger at #5, but will likely pick him at #8 unless I'm able to work the tea leaves well enough that I'm almost certain I can get him at #12.

 

[BearsFan]

It is pretty rare that you can get a solid starter for the next 5+ years in the 2nd half of the 1st round.

McClain has no competition for his starting job, the Raiders are as much of a lock to remain in the 4-3 as any team in football (allowing him to keep his value), and he should be a 3-down guy from Day 1.

2 pts per tackle? I think you can start thinking about him after 1.04.

I thought they were definitely going to the 3-4?

 

[Chargers86]

I have the #2 and #8 pick in my league. I really want him, but in my league I doubt he makes it to #8.

 

[massraider]

It is pretty rare that you can get a solid starter for the next 5+ years in the 2nd half of the 1st round.

McClain has no competition for his starting job, the Raiders are as much of a lock to remain in the 4-3 as any team in football (allowing him to keep his value), and he should be a 3-down guy from Day 1.

2 pts per tackle? I think you can start thinking about him after 1.04.

I thought they were definitely going to the 3-4?

"Definitely going the 3-4" is a phrase I haven't seen anywhere, and I read every bit of daily info from all the beat writers. There has been speculation about the 3-4 because of the trades for Wimbley and Groves, but the only thing Cable has said is the same vague, 'we're gonna do some different things' that coaches say every year. They have had a minicamp and an OTA already, and not a peep about a 30 front. The DC is a 4-3 guy, the owner is a 4-3 guy, and the team hasn't changed the defense (unfortunately) in over 20 years.

 

[blend]

I have the #2 and #8 pick in my league. I really want him, but in my league I doubt he makes it to #8.

I had 2 and 12 and took him at 2 (very favorable LB scoring). I wondered if he would have made it to me at 12, but I heard from the owners of the 5th and 8th pick who said they had planned on taking him.

 

[CaptainCrunch]

It is pretty rare that you can get a solid starter for the next 5+ years in the 2nd half of the 1st round. McClain has no competition for his starting job, the Raiders are as much of a lock to remain in the 4-3 as any team in football (allowing him to keep his value), and he should be a 3-down guy from Day 1.2 pts per tackle? I think you can start thinking about him after 1.04.

Thanks- that is where I am sitting in two drafts (or can trade up to without giving up the farm). I am 99% sure Bryant,Mathews,Best, and Spiller will be the first four picks. I agree you have to consider him over guys like Benn, Tate & Tate, Thomas- due to him have a high probability of being productive right away and producing at a high level for years to come. Just doing a bit of a sanity check to see if reaching as high as the 1.05 is tooo much for an LB- particularly McClain- due to his ability and situation.Out of curiousity- does anyone re-call how high Patrick Willis went in rookie drafts they year he entered the NFL?

 

[J Giles Band]

Thanks- that is where I am sitting in two drafts (or can trade up to without giving up the farm). I am 99% sure Bryant,Mathews,Best, and Spiller will be the first four picks. I agree you have to consider him over guys like Benn, Tate & Tate, Thomas- due to him have a high probability of being productive right away and producing at a high level for years to come. Just doing a bit of a sanity check to see if reaching as high as the 1.05 is tooo much for an LB- particularly McClain- due to his ability and situation.Out of curiousity- does anyone re-call how high Patrick Willis went in rookie drafts they year he entered the NFL?

In my 12-team league Willis went 1.11.For comparison, Posluszny went 1.05 and Beason 2.01 the same year.

 

[TBam]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:

16 team 1.06

16 team 1.08

16 team 1.06

16 team 1.05

32 team 1.03

32 team 1.01

The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

 

[Zoomanji]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

T-bone

 

[dirtyhalos]

my (4) 16 teamers he went

1.09, 1.13, 1.11 and 1.09

 

[TBam]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

T-bone

Buddah

 

[Zoomanji]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

T-bone

Buddah

 

[TBam]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:

16 team 1.06

16 team 1.08

16 team 1.06

16 team 1.05

32 team 1.03

32 team 1.01

The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

T-bone

Buddah Zooty

 

[brownhelmets]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:

16 team 1.06

16 team 1.08

16 team 1.06

16 team 1.05

32 team 1.03

32 team 1.01

The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

T-bone

Buddah Zooty

 

[gandalas]

Man, I have the 1.11 pick and was hoping to get McClain there...after reading this thread, I just don't know.

There has never been a first round LB taken in my league, but I just don't know...

 

[massraider]

Man, I have the 1.11 pick and was hoping to get McClain there...after reading this thread, I just don't know.There has never been a first round LB taken in my league, but I just don't know...

Hey, there's no hard/fast rules. If you are in a league where owners don't chase IDP, he may very well be there. I took him in a league where you can start 3 RB and IDP scoring isn't crazy high, and I wasn't worried about getting him at 1.9. I knew he'd be there. You can find a lot of leagues where he didn't go in the first. And where I took him, I passed on D. Thomas, Jimmy Clausen and Golden Tate. Can you imagine your fellow owners passing on those players to take a LB, for the first time ever in the first round? Don't let one thread panic you. Take a look at the teams in front of you, how are their LBs, and what's their drafting history? Put yourself in their spot. If you think there's a good chance he may go, and there aren't 10 other guys you like there, then maybe you put up a standing offer to guys picking at 1.7 and beyond. Maybe a 3rd rounder to move down.

 

[John 14:6]

my (4) 16 teamers he went1.09, 1.13, 1.11 and 1.09

I have 1.07 in a 16 team league and am debating between McClain and Bradford (assuming they're both available and there's not a surprise dropper). It's a league with heavier offensive scoring (the top defender last year, Willis, didn't crack the top 80 in scoring) so I'm thinking I'll go with Bradford. But if he's gone I'll almost certainly take McClain.

 

[The Man With No Name]

I took him at 1.10 in a league with a history of IDP's going in the 1st round.

Good luck everyone.

 

[dirtyhalos]

my (4) 16 teamers he went1.09, 1.13, 1.11 and 1.09

I have 1.07 in a 16 team league and am debating between McClain and Bradford (assuming they're both available and there's not a surprise dropper). It's a league with heavier offensive scoring (the top defender last year, Willis, didn't crack the top 80 in scoring) so I'm thinking I'll go with Bradford. But if he's gone I'll almost certainly take McClain.

i personally would definitely take bradford over mcclain

 

[CB31]

Anything past 1.09 is a steal...1.07 is probably where his value should be slotted, maybe higher if you don't have a middle-1st pick.

 

[Force]

14 team league I got him at 1.12

In 07 Willis, Poz, and Beason went 1.09, 1.10, and 1.11

 

[Dolphins Homer]

Took him 1.4 since I didn't have another pick until 3.1. I think he is one of the safer picks in the draft up there with Ryan Mathews and Dez Bryant.

 

[Rovers]

I'm in three 16 team dynasty leagues, 0.5PPR and 2pts-1pt for tackles and assists, must start 3 LB.

I took McClain at 1.05 and got Hardesty at 1.09. The guy at 1.06 loved Benn, and the owner of 1.07 went Bradford as he had no QB. No way McClain would not have been taken at 1.06 if I had not taken him and went Benn instead, according to that owner, McClain would have been his pick.

The other two leagues are yet to start the draft, should be this week. With a start 3 LB requirement, no way does McClain slip to 1.07 or 1.08 in these leagues. OK, maybe 1.07 if someone loves Bradford...and takers him at 1.06 instead.

Where a player like McClain gets picked is the usual same old story... scoring system and starting line up requirements. 16 teams, start 3 LB, 2 pt/tackle... McClain comes off the board early. There just aren't many 4-3 three down MLB's around anymore. I think Willis went around 1.03-1.04 in these leagues, but might have gone higher if he wasn't going to a 3-4. Brammel learned me good on that one...I was down somewhat on Willis because of the system. Jene was right. Having said that... I love the situation McClain is in.

 

[John 14:6]

my (4) 16 teamers he went1.09, 1.13, 1.11 and 1.09

I have 1.07 in a 16 team league and am debating between McClain and Bradford (assuming they're both available and there's not a surprise dropper). It's a league with heavier offensive scoring (the top defender last year, Willis, didn't crack the top 80 in scoring) so I'm thinking I'll go with Bradford. But if he's gone I'll almost certainly take McClain.

i personally would definitely take bradford over mcclain

Yeah, it can be hard to get a decent starting QB in a 16 team league. But I already have Favre (who looks like he's coming back) and some mediocre or worse younger players like TJax, Matt Cassell, and Charlie Whitehurst for the future. Maybe I will take McClain...

 

[TBam]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

Just started another today and in a 16 team he went 1.05

 

[Rovers]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

Just started another today and in a 16 team he went 1.05

Same here.... in my next 16 team dynasty, he went at 1.05. One more to go, and he won't last till 1.08.

 

[TBam]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

Just started another today and in a 16 team he went 1.05

Same here.... in my next 16 team dynasty, he went at 1.05. One more to go, and he won't last till 1.08.

 

[John 14:6]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

Just started another today and in a 16 team he went 1.05

Same here.... in my next 16 team dynasty, he went at 1.05. One more to go, and he won't last till 1.08.

Is he usually getting drafted before or after Sam Bradford?

 

[massraider]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

Just started another today and in a 16 team he went 1.05

Same here.... in my next 16 team dynasty, he went at 1.05. One more to go, and he won't last till 1.08.

Is he usually getting drafted before or after Sam Bradford?

In your situation above, where LBs don't score a ton, a 16 teak league, and you have Favre and a lot of questions, there's no way I'd pass on Bradford.

 

[TBam]

I have had 6 Rookie drafts so far and this is where he went:16 team 1.0616 team 1.0816 team 1.0616 team 1.0532 team 1.0332 team 1.01The 32 team leagues are homer leagues and are very high scoring for LB's which is why you see him drafted higher. I didn't get him in any of my drafts but I am also pretty much set at LB as well.

Just started another today and in a 16 team he went 1.05

Same here.... in my next 16 team dynasty, he went at 1.05. One more to go, and he won't last till 1.08.

Is he usually getting drafted before or after Sam Bradford?

Just before Bradford in most drafts, can't count 32 team leagues since we use TMQB. 2 of the leagues McClain went 5 and Bradford 7, McClian 6 and Bradford 8 in another, McClain 6 and Bradford 10 in another, and Bradford 5 and McClain 8 in the last. I traded up from 10 to get Bradford at 5 to make sure I got him after trading Stafford.

 

[John 14:6]

In your situation above, where LBs don't score a ton, a 16 teak league, and you have Favre and a lot of questions, there's no way I'd pass on Bradford.

Thanks for the advice Now I have to decide who to pick in case Bradford and McClain are BOTH gone along with the top 4...

 

[kn1v3s0ut]

I took him at the 1.08 in my rookie draft... waffled between him and Hardesty there. Glad I went with McClain.

 

[Warpig]

my (4) 16 teamers he went

1.09, 1.13, 1.11 and 1.09

 

[Jedi Knight]

I have a choice of drafting CJ Spiller or McClain at pick three. Neither will make it to pick 10 (my next pick). Tough decision tonight.

 

[Jayrod]

He went at 1.04 in front of Spiller (after Matthews, Dez & Best) in my 12 team tackle heavy dynasty.

We also went from starting 2 LB's to 2 LB's + 2 D-flex...which means almost everyone will be starting 4 LB's.

I'm stacked at LB and I would have taken him at 1.05. LB2 & LB3 is a huge pool of guys. LB1's are harder to come by and seem to stay there for a long time.