Round 1 Fantasy Implications (1 Viewer)

[shader]

Great first round guys. The 2nd and 3rd rounds will be very meaningful for us fantasy dorks, as we should start seeing skill position players flying off the board. But there were some GREAT landing zones for the top talent.

New Orleans -- Mark Ingram

This pick grows on me every time I think about it. I can't think of a better location for Ingram. Not one. At first, I was hesitant when I thought of the "crowded backfield", but those worries melt away when you consider it for just a few minutes. First of all, Pierre Thomas stays hurt. So does Chris Ivory. So does Reggie Bush. I know there has been talk about Ingram's knee, but the bottom line is that he was an iron man for 3 years in the SEC.

He is going to go in there and steal their jobs, take their money and cement that backfield for the rest of Drew Brees career. This is as good a situation as Emmitt walked into, except Ingram is joining the team at their peak. Ivory and Thomas get 5 ypc on that team. What do you think Ingram will do? The only hesitation I have regarding his stats is that you never know if SP will defer to the veteran Thomas out of respect for a few games. But I expect Ingram to win the ROY and be a top 3 draft pick in all fantasy formats in 2012. Perfect pick and if there are any doubts about this fit, understand that the Saints TOOK HIM IN THE FIRST ROUND, AND GAVE UP NEXT YEAR'S FIRST ROUNDER....They wanted him badly.

Panthers -- Cam Newton

As a Bama fan, I have every reason in the world to hate this guy, but I think he's a star. Yes, he'll be hidden for awhile as he learns the complexity of the offense. But I've read many posters who question his intelligence. That is borderline racism. Strong statement, but if you've watched ONE interview, you realize that he is very well-spoken, and much smarter than Vince, who he gets compared too often. Also, don't forget that Vince had the entire Titans organization on his back in year ONE and was a superstar in Nashville, until he fell apart mentally. Similarly, the addition of Newton will help this running game bigtime. Enjoy your backup role, Clausen. Newton will start from day one. Jonathan Stewart and Goodson get bumped bigtime, as a running QB will open up many holes for them. Another difference in Young and Newton is that Young runs like a gazelle, while Newton runs like a bulldozer. He's going to be a special player in this league, and I've rarely seen a guy picked a 1.01 that is so under the radar. Unless you are in a 1 QB league with ten teams, you will look back and kick yourself for not picking him in the top 5 in fantasy drafts.

Bengals -- AJ Green

I'm not thrilled about the location. I'm very ambivalent. They already have a bunch of targets in Cincy, and Green is a rookie. They also have a lot of ambiguity at the QB position. This was a move to keep Palmer happy, but I think it's the organization he's disgusted with. And this is why he probably leaves. A team with holes and plenty of options at receiver takes a receiver at pick 4. As far as Green goes, if you are a fan of his game, this location shouldn't sway your pick. Who knows where the Bengals will be in 2012. But in dynasty you can't worry about that. Green does nothing to change the fate of this team, as they had plenty of WR targets in 2010. This pick was a real head scratcher to me. That being said, if Palmer does leave, this is a gold mine of a location for any free agent QB to come and put up 3500 yards without missing a beat. Green is a top 3 pick in all formats.

Falcons -- Julio Jones

I LOVE this pick for the Falcons and for Matt Ryan. Come on guys, they didn't give up that much. They basically gave up a late first next year and a 2nd this year. Yeah, that's steep, but this is a rare talent. They just got a guy with TO potential, and TO work ethic, without the antics. No more excuses for Ryan. This team is ready to make a run now. That being said, I'm not too sure that this is good news for Roddy White ppr fans. His days of 15 catch games are over now. But in non-ppr, he should benefit greatly from the presence of another target. This will be the best tandem of WR's in the league. As for Julio himself...there is good and bad. A quick look at fantasy teammates shows me that many are pumped about this for Julio. I agree that joining Matt Ryan is a great thing. But the presence of Roddy White is a bit troubling for Julio's upside. But then, maybe this offense will become one of those rare offenses that can support two number 1 WR's.

I wonder if the Falcons will dip back into the playmaker pool later in the draft to get a scatback like a Dion Lewis...somebody small and quick to complement Turner. If so, that would be an incredible draft for Atlanta. Atlanta and New Orleans both just made huge moves. But hey, they had to. Neither team could go status quo and hope to match Green Bay. Great day for Falcons fans. Naysayers can whine and cry about what they gave up, but what WR would have been there at the end of round 1? Exactly.

Titans, Jaguars, Vikings -- Locker, Gabbert, Ponder

Three teams made surprising moves to try and fill holes at the most important position on the field. The Jags made a big move up, and the Titans and Vikings made what some feel to be big reaches. The reality is that we don't know how these guys will turn out. Armchair QB's will pick at these guys and make bold proclamations about their futures, but we just don't know what will happen. Locker had no tools on a bad team at Washington. Now he gets the most explosive RB in the NFL, a great young WR in Britt, and a TE with 4.4 speed in Cook. He also has a great Oline to work behind. Gabbert similarly is on a decent team with a strong running game and Oline, and he won't be forced into action with Garrard there. Ponder, like Locker, joins a team with bigtime weapons. Peterson, Harvin and maybe Sidney Rice. While some fans "wring their hands" about these teams reaching...if you see a QB that you love, you make the pick. You don't gamble. The Titans like Locker better than Gabbert. Who cares what the mock drafts say. The Vikings obviously like Ponder. He's accurate. Who cares if they POSSIBLY could have traded back and gotten him. They got their guy. Give them a break.

Colts, Packers, Eagles, Bears, Patriots----Offensive Lineman. #Winning

Loved these picks by these four teams. What do you do when you have Manning, Rodgers, Vick, Cutler and Brady? You protect them. The Colts will benefit from this pick immensely. Brady needs more protection. Vick got murdered in 2010. Cutler likewise needs time to cut down on the mistakes. Just love these bigtime teams taking the steps to protect their bigtime QB's. Step 1 in the NFL GM playbook is to find a QB. Step 2 is to protect your QB. Love these picks, and all owners of any players on these teams should breathe a sigh of relief.

Dolphins--Pouncey

I wanted to separate the Dolphins from the above teams. Why? Because the Dolphins don't have a franchise QB, or a great offense. But the temptation to grab an Ingram or a WR was resisted, and I love the move. Might be one of my favorite picks of the round. You put Ingram behind that line, he gets you 4 ypc and 1200 yards. Dolphins get a nasty inside player who can help to change the attitude up front. This has been needed for a long time in Miami. The Dolphins head coach has no chance of being there in 2012, so this is a move made by the front office and for the future. But I love it. Upgrading that line is long overdue, and you may see much better play out of the RB's as a result. Dolphin fans have to be ecstatic with this pick.

Chiefs--Baldwin

Ugh. Did NOT like this pick. Is Haley trying to re-create Boldin and Fitzgerald? Baldwin screams bust to me and is a great example of why the Falcons moved up in this draft. After Julio and Green, there are nothing but question marks at WR. The Chiefs are a team on the rise, and I really felt they should have gone defense here. Is Cassell the right QB? I don't know. They have such energy with their draft picks last year, and I just feel like they took a step back here. Maybe he works out and becomes the threat on the other side of the field that they needed. But I think they would have been better served to draft INGRAM than Baldwin. Ingram and Charles would give them the best running game in the league. Baldwin seems like the same kind of WR as Bowe. That being said, this team did need more threats at WR, so it's not a bad pick from a need perspective, so if you ARE a fan of Baldwin, as I obviously am not, than this isn't a bad spot. But I think from an organizational perspective, it was just a terrible pick, and this drops Baldwin way down in any of my fantasy drafts. I don't feel Cassell will be able to make him a bigtime WR and I don't think his talent is worthy of a first round pick, with so much defensive talent on the board.

 

[TheWick]

No mention of Jon Baldwin?

I kinda feel the same way

 

[shader]

No mention of Jon Baldwin?I kinda feel the same way

lol. I totally forgot about him in the initial posting. Guess that shows you how much of an impact that pick had on me. Just a big, "so what" for me when that pick happened.

 

[Zeff]

I disagree with almost everything you said.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I disagree with almost everything you said.

The only thing I agree with are Ingram and protection for the top QB's. Everything else, I am polar opposite in thinking as you.

 

[shader]

I disagree with almost everything you said.

The only thing I agree with are Ingram and protection for the top QB's. Everything else, I am polar opposite in thinking as you.

The Newton pick will turn many off and they'll stop reading. But he will be very good. Most underrated player picked last night. 1.04 in 2 qb dynasty leagues without a doubt for me.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Other than Newton, im buying what youre selling. Maybe not 100% on everything, but for the most part, im with you. Im not saying Newton is a sure fire bust either, but i dont like his chances. Im just happy the Bills didnt end up with him.

 

[golfguy]

I disagree with a lot here.

i like ingram for the NFL in fantasy there are several other places where he could have gone that would have been better.

aj green is elite. cinncy stink though the may address qb in round 2

cam newton is a bust. he will be. mark it down. he relies on his athletic ability, and can't read a defense. he may learn to read a defense, but he better do it quickly cause carolina has no real wrs (especially if steve smith leaves).

imo jake locker will end being the best qb of the 1st round.

baldwin? did you watch the kid play? you realize he has been playing wr for like 2 seasons. he played TE in high school for aliquippa. ( you know, the darelle revis, ty law sean gilbert aliquippa) he landed in a great spot with a bowe on the other side to draw pressure. i think baldwin can eat up the 2nd corner on most nfl teams.

pouncey was a reach at 1.15 for a center, now if he plays guard not so bad. however, i think a lot of hype around this kid because of his brother. i don't think he is as good as his brother. they needed line help, however, they could have moved down and gotten pouncey.

 

[shader]

I disagree with a lot here.i like ingram for the NFL in fantasy there are several other places where he could have gone that would have been better.aj green is elite. cinncy stink though the may address qb in round 2cam newton is a bust. he will be. mark it down. he relies on his athletic ability, and can't read a defense. he may learn to read a defense, but he better do it quickly cause carolina has no real wrs (especially if steve smith leaves).imo jake locker will end being the best qb of the 1st round.baldwin? did you watch the kid play? you realize he has been playing wr for like 2 seasons. he played TE in high school for aliquippa. ( you know, the darelle revis, ty law sean gilbert aliquippa) he landed in a great spot with a bowe on the other side to draw pressure. i think baldwin can eat up the 2nd corner on most nfl teams. pouncey was a reach at 1.15 for a center, now if he plays guard not so bad. however, i think a lot of hype around this kid because of his brother. i don't think he is as good as his brother. they needed line help, however, they could have moved down and gotten pouncey.

I hope you are right on Locker as a Titans fan. I do agree with you that Green is elite. But he's still a bad pick for the Bengals. Doesn't change his fantasy implications at all. But for the Bengals they are quickly cementing a last place finish in the AFC North for the next decade.

 

[Zeff]

I think in particular, way too many people are drinking really obvious Kool-Aid on the whole Ingram thing. Guy was a Heisman winner, a nat'l champ, and the marquee player on one of the NCAA's most visible, flagshippy units. People are confusing "I've seen lots of his highlights" with "he's good." It's common.

There's no reason he shouldn't bring stability to that position for N.O. But he's not bringing all-Universe talent. He's an end of the first round talent without home run ability. That doesn't mean he'll blow. But I don't see this as an improvement for N.O. anywhere but the marketing dept.

I've seen the Cam Newton show come to the pros way too many times to be snowed again. Ran a gimmicky, dumbed-down O in college, succeeded because he was a man among boys there. No boys at the next level. The plays that made him an NCAA legend will be turnovers and decapitations in the NFL. I see no real shot at legit NFL starterhood, here.

Jon Baldwin was a man among boys too...but in the NFL, he still gets to play among midgets in the secondary. His game was never speed and separation. When motivated, he was simply uncoverable. Great at using his body to take optimal position, and big enough to win even if contested. With an actual QB throwing to him for a change, he's going to excel early and often. I think he develops into a 1A talent on KC by the end of year one, and into one of the league's premiere red zone threats by year two. A bigger Michael Irvin.

I do agree that for teams with their houses in order, buttressing the trenches is never a mistake.

 

[shader]

I think in particular, way too many people are drinking really obvious Kool-Aid on the whole Ingram thing. Guy was a Heisman winner, a nat'l champ, and the marquee player on one of the NCAA's most visible, flagshippy units. People are confusing "I've seen lots of his highlights" with "he's good." It's common.There's no reason he shouldn't bring stability to that position for N.O. But he's not bringing all-Universe talent. He's an end of the first round talent without home run ability. That doesn't mean he'll blow. But I don't see this as an improvement for N.O. anywhere but the marketing dept.I've seen the Cam Newton show come to the pros way too many times to be snowed again. Ran a gimmicky, dumbed-down O in college, succeeded because he was a man among boys there. No boys at the next level. The plays that made him an NCAA legend will be turnovers and decapitations in the NFL. I see no real shot at legit NFL starterhood, here.Jon Baldwin was a man among boys too...but in the NFL, he still gets to play among midgets in the secondary. His game was never speed and separation. When motivated, he was simply uncoverable. Great at using his body to take optimal position, and big enough to win even if contested. With an actual QB throwing to him for a change, he's going to excel early and often. I think he develops into a 1A talent on KC by the end of year one, and into one of the league's premiere red zone threats by year two. A bigger Michael Irvin.I do agree that for teams with their houses in order, buttressing the trenches is never a mistake.

You are dead wrong on Ingram, imo. The guy is a proto-typical NFL RB. I've seen every carry of his career. He would have struggled on a team with a bad oline that had trouble blocking for him. On the Saints he will have running room and he will set the league on fire. Build like a truck, great agility, tremendous power....I can hardly think of many situations that would have been better for him. Perhaps Green Bay.This draft was so full of running backs that there simply wasn't a need to get one in the first for many teams. Also, most teams in this league already have decent players at that position. It's becoming a position with a glut of talent. Ingram's lack of top-end speed caused him to drop, but that speed will be irrelevant just as it was for Emmitt.He will run circles around Thomas and Ivory, who were both undrafted.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I think in particular, way too many people are drinking really obvious Kool-Aid on the whole Ingram thing. Guy was a Heisman winner, a nat'l champ, and the marquee player on one of the NCAA's most visible, flagshippy units. People are confusing "I've seen lots of his highlights" with "he's good." It's common.There's no reason he shouldn't bring stability to that position for N.O. But he's not bringing all-Universe talent. He's an end of the first round talent without home run ability. That doesn't mean he'll blow. But I don't see this as an improvement for N.O. anywhere but the marketing dept.I've seen the Cam Newton show come to the pros way too many times to be snowed again. Ran a gimmicky, dumbed-down O in college, succeeded because he was a man among boys there. No boys at the next level. The plays that made him an NCAA legend will be turnovers and decapitations in the NFL. I see no real shot at legit NFL starterhood, here.Jon Baldwin was a man among boys too...but in the NFL, he still gets to play among midgets in the secondary. His game was never speed and separation. When motivated, he was simply uncoverable. Great at using his body to take optimal position, and big enough to win even if contested. With an actual QB throwing to him for a change, he's going to excel early and often. I think he develops into a 1A talent on KC by the end of year one, and into one of the league's premiere red zone threats by year two. A bigger Michael Irvin.I do agree that for teams with their houses in order, buttressing the trenches is never a mistake.

Im confused by your thoughts on Ingram and Baldwin. Ingram is nothing more than a late first round talent without all world speed, so he is no better than journeymen like Thomas and Ivory? But Baldwin, who is a late first round talent without world class speed is going to dominate and is going to be better than a WR who was an earlier first round pick and just spent last season dominating with an average QB?

 

[shader]

I think we have some east coast big ten bias going on early this morning in this thread. My SEC brethren need to wake up and get in here!

 

[footballsavvy]

Of the 10 posts above me here, the OP has put more cohesive thought into this than anyone else by far. To say Cam "can't read a defense" is shallow and you have absolutley no basis for that comment - but I'm sure you would argue that every scout, coach, GM, and owner who was wiling to spend their top pick and millions of dollars for him is making a huge mistake based on your expert scouting of Cam.

He's right about Ingram too. The Saints pass to set up the run. They have always had RBs that produce. What other team can pickup Ladell Betts and Julius Jones on a Thursday and plug them into the game on the following Sunday and watch those two guys avergage over 4 YPC? It's going to make me feel dirty watching Ingram take advantage of the holes created by the Saints offense.

I'm also with the OP on Baldwin. He might not be a huge bust, but to me he is less dynamic verison of Colston at best. He looks like a TE and plays like a TE. I can't envision him beating NFL defensive backs consistently. If they pummel him with targets, sure he will come down with some due to his size, but with Bowe, Meowki, McCluster, and Charles catching balls Baldwin will not have the luxury of getting a billion targets to make his case.

The men amongst boys comment was probably an accurate way of explaining his decent stats. Unfortunatley, if someone like myself goes out and dominates a pee wee football league because I'm bigger and faster - that really doesn't project to the NFL very well.

 

[Zeff]

Baldwin was nowhere near an end of the first talent.

He was a top of the first talent coupled with a late-round attitude. He played with what I'd call the single worst QB situation I've ever seen on a major conference team. I was amazed that Pitt couldn't find at least a half dozen students willing to walk on and try out at QB who were better than Tino Sunseri. Contrast with Ingram, who spent his career in arguably the best circumstances imaginable.

The knock on Baldwin, and rightfully so, is that when it became clear he had a high school backup QB throwing to him, he shut down. Quit trying. And it really OUGHT to be a concern. But the concern is something you have to look into. And when Baldwin had Bill Stull throwing to him...a QB I'd place firmly in the bottom five of all major conference QB's I've ever watched, until Baldwin turned it on and rescued him...that mediocre QB'ing was more than enough to get his juices flowing.

JB will never face the kind of QB adversity from his own team in the NFL he did playing at Pitt. Even the most inept NFL QB's are light years ahead of Stull...never mind Sunseri.

If you believe you can erase the attitude and work ethic concerns, and I have reason to believe an NFL team can, then there's no comparison in the talent levels between these two guys. Baldwin belongs light years ahead of Ingram.

Ingram maximized his talents in college, and I have doubts he would have been taken before the second had the Saints not reached on him. Again, I think he'll do fine. And probably the best thing about him is his lack of TO's. But I see no upside beyond 3.8 ypc plodder. Baldwin's upside is far higher. He's a prototype.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Good idea for a topic. That said, it seems like your perspective is: every offensive pick in the 1st round was great!!!

That doesn't seem particularly insightful.

 

[shader]

Good idea for a topic. That said, it seems like your perspective is: every offensive pick in the 1st round was great!!! That doesn't seem particularly insightful.

Thanks for your insight as well.

 

[Zeff]

The men amongst boys comment was probably an accurate way of explaining his decent stats. Unfortunatley, if someone like myself goes out and dominates a pee wee football league because I'm bigger and faster - that really doesn't project to the NFL very well.

"Man among boys" translates to the NFL in some circumstances, and doesn't in others. A receiver or offensive tackle who is so physically superior to the college players he's matched up against as to make them look laughable at times is likely to find that same success on Sundays. The speed of the game cranks up considerably, but the physical gifts translate.A QB who does the same is now up against 260 lb monsters who are faster than he is, and get paid handsome bounties to take his head off. Newton's not going to translate. He hasn't got the kind of Vick-ish superlatives to fall back on, athletically, where he's arguably the fastest, most athletic player on the field every time he takes a snap. He's a less impressive Vince Young. Albeit without the legendarily rock like intellect. But Cam went #1 based on that same VY man-among-boys wow factor. And I see nothing in his game that says to me he can continue to be a man among boys in the NFL. And nothing in his more bread-and-butter QB'ing abilities that suggests he has the ability to transcend that.Those of us who are Cam Newton naysayers aren't trying to outsmart the scouts. We're just disagreeing (big time, it would seem) with Carolina's. There was plenty of buzz out there saying lots of teams had no interest in Cam, and that their scouts were saying things like, "he looks terrible."You watch what you watch, see what you see, listen to who you listen to, and make up your mind. I tend to agree with the POV that says Cam will be worthless as an NFL QB. Vince Young without the gravitas. If my team needed a QB, I'd look at him as an UDFA. But not earlier.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Good idea for a topic. That said, it seems like your perspective is: every offensive pick in the 1st round was great!!! That doesn't seem particularly insightful.

Thanks for your insight as well.

Happy to help! aside: I thought your detailed comments were a good read.....just saying that stepping back, it seems like your overall message is "you're all winners!!" Are there any offensive picks you thought just plain sucked?

 

[Scooby1974]

Baldwin was nowhere near an end of the first talent.

He was a top of the first talent coupled with a late-round attitude. He played with what I'd call the single worst QB situation I've ever seen on a major conference team. I was amazed that Pitt couldn't find at least a half dozen students willing to walk on and try out at QB who were better than Tino Sunseri. Contrast with Ingram, who spent his career in arguably the best circumstances imaginable.

The knock on Baldwin, and rightfully so, is that when it became clear he had a high school backup QB throwing to him, he shut down. Quit trying. And it really OUGHT to be a concern. But the concern is something you have to look into. And when Baldwin had Bill Stull throwing to him...a QB I'd place firmly in the bottom five of all major conference QB's I've ever watched, until Baldwin turned it on and rescued him...that mediocre QB'ing was more than enough to get his juices flowing.

JB will never face the kind of QB adversity from his own team in the NFL he did playing at Pitt. Even the most inept NFL QB's are light years ahead of Stull...never mind Sunseri.

If you believe you can erase the attitude and work ethic concerns, and I have reason to believe an NFL team can, then there's no comparison in the talent levels between these two guys. Baldwin belongs light years ahead of Ingram.

Ingram maximized his talents in college, and I have doubts he would have been taken before the second had the Saints not reached on him. Again, I think he'll do fine. And probably the best thing about him is his lack of TO's. But I see no upside beyond 3.8 ypc plodder. Baldwin's upside is far higher. He's a prototype.

Interesting, I'm VERY surprised NE, Minny, and Tenn didn't snatch Baldwin up quick than quick. They didn't have any problems whatsoever with motivating and erasing longstanding, crappy attitudes. Inept is inept no matter what level it's on. With NFL talent all around, a sucky NFL QB = Stull/Sunseri , and although I wouldn't say Cassel is inept, he is average to above average at best. Lots of mouths to feed in KC, so if Baldwin continues to be an unstable basket case and a quitter, this has bust written all over it.

 

[shader]

Baldwin was nowhere near an end of the first talent.He was a top of the first talent coupled with a late-round attitude. He played with what I'd call the single worst QB situation I've ever seen on a major conference team. I was amazed that Pitt couldn't find at least a half dozen students willing to walk on and try out at QB who were better than Tino Sunseri. Contrast with Ingram, who spent his career in arguably the best circumstances imaginable.The knock on Baldwin, and rightfully so, is that when it became clear he had a high school backup QB throwing to him, he shut down. Quit trying. And it really OUGHT to be a concern. But the concern is something you have to look into. And when Baldwin had Bill Stull throwing to him...a QB I'd place firmly in the bottom five of all major conference QB's I've ever watched, until Baldwin turned it on and rescued him...that mediocre QB'ing was more than enough to get his juices flowing.JB will never face the kind of QB adversity from his own team in the NFL he did playing at Pitt. Even the most inept NFL QB's are light years ahead of Stull...never mind Sunseri.If you believe you can erase the attitude and work ethic concerns, and I have reason to believe an NFL team can, then there's no comparison in the talent levels between these two guys. Baldwin belongs light years ahead of Ingram.Ingram maximized his talents in college, and I have doubts he would have been taken before the second had the Saints not reached on him. Again, I think he'll do fine. And probably the best thing about him is his lack of TO's. But I see no upside beyond 3.8 ypc plodder. Baldwin's upside is far higher. He's a prototype.

3.8 plodder. LOL. The reason some of us are salivating over Ingram is because of what Ivory, Betts and Jones did last year. Total scrubs having big games and big runs. Ingram is going to be flat out awesome. Probably will get too much focus from the defense to get over 5ypc, but if that is the case, the Saints will be unstoppable.It seems you know a lot more about Pittsburgh than any of the SEC schools. Your opinions on Baldwin are intriguing and I'll do some more analysis on him. I definitely could be wrong about him, but I've never been super impressed, I hated his attitude last year, and I'm not a big fan of the situation either. I don't see the massive upside that you seem to.

 

[Scooby1974]

Good idea for a topic. That said, it seems like your perspective is: every offensive pick in the 1st round was great!!! That doesn't seem particularly insightful.

Thanks for your insight as well.

 

[shader]

Good idea for a topic. That said, it seems like your perspective is: every offensive pick in the 1st round was great!!! That doesn't seem particularly insightful.

Thanks for your insight as well.

Happy to help! aside: I thought your detailed comments were a good read.....just saying that stepping back, it seems like your overall message is "you're all winners!!" Are there any offensive picks you thought just plain sucked?

Well honestly, there were only four skill position players selected, and while I did love 2..if you notice I wasn't blown away with the fantasy implications for Julio in Atlanta. In real life football it's incredible for Atlanta. But sharing with Roddy might limit Julio.I didn't like the Baldwin pick, and I was very "meh" about the AJ Green pick. Hated the pick for Cincy, but Green has undeniable talent and will be fine anywhere he goes.As for the QB's, I've learned that it's next to impossible to predict QB's. Who really knew what Josh Freeman, Flacco, Matt Ryan and Big Ben would turn out to be? I personally like Kaepernick better than any QB in this draft aside from Newton, but my point was that QB is such an important position that I don't fault any team for taking one. Very difficult position to prognosticate.That being said, the one QB I am sold on is Newton. I have the same feelings about him as I did with Vick. Revolutionary.

 

[Breesisdaman]

New Orleans -- Mark Ingram

This pick grows on me every time I think about it. I can't think of a better location for Ingram. Not one. At first, I was hesitant when I thought of the "crowded backfield", but those worries melt away when you consider it for just a few minutes. First of all, Pierre Thomas stays hurt. So does Chris Ivory. So does Reggie Bush. I know there has been talk about Ingram's knee, but the bottom line is that he was an iron man for 3 years in the SEC.

He is going to go in there and steal their jobs, take their money and cement that backfield for the rest of Drew Brees career. This is as good a situation as Emmitt walked into, except Ingram is joining the team at their peak. Ivory and Thomas get 5 ypc on that team. What do you think Ingram will do? The only hesitation I have regarding his stats is that you never know if SP will defer to the veteran Thomas out of respect for a few games. But I expect Ingram to win the ROY and be a top 3 draft pick in all fantasy formats in 2012. Perfect pick and if there are any doubts about this fit, understand that the Saints TOOK HIM IN THE FIRST ROUND, AND GAVE UP NEXT YEAR'S FIRST ROUNDER....They wanted him badly.

his drops Baldwin way down in any of my fantasy drafts. I don't feel Cassell will be able to make him a bigtime WR and I don't think his talent is worthy of a first round pick, with so much defensive talent on the board.

I agree on Ingram and I am an Auburn fan. He is going to be the next Deuce McCalister for the Saints.. An absolute beast and I will even go so far as to say he will change the Saints offense to a more run oriented one to take pressure off of Brees. One thing I must point out though is the Saints did not give up a first rounder for Ingram. They simply moved next years 32nd pick to this years 28th pick and it only cost them a low 2nd rounder to do it.

 

[shader]

The men amongst boys comment was probably an accurate way of explaining his decent stats. Unfortunatley, if someone like myself goes out and dominates a pee wee football league because I'm bigger and faster - that really doesn't project to the NFL very well.

"Man among boys" translates to the NFL in some circumstances, and doesn't in others. A receiver or offensive tackle who is so physically superior to the college players he's matched up against as to make them look laughable at times is likely to find that same success on Sundays. The speed of the game cranks up considerably, but the physical gifts translate.A QB who does the same is now up against 260 lb monsters who are faster than he is, and get paid handsome bounties to take his head off. Newton's not going to translate. He hasn't got the kind of Vick-ish superlatives to fall back on, athletically, where he's arguably the fastest, most athletic player on the field every time he takes a snap. He's a less impressive Vince Young. Albeit without the legendarily rock like intellect. But Cam went #1 based on that same VY man-among-boys wow factor. And I see nothing in his game that says to me he can continue to be a man among boys in the NFL. And nothing in his more bread-and-butter QB'ing abilities that suggests he has the ability to transcend that.

Those of us who are Cam Newton naysayers aren't trying to outsmart the scouts. We're just disagreeing (big time, it would seem) with Carolina's. There was plenty of buzz out there saying lots of teams had no interest in Cam, and that their scouts were saying things like, "he looks terrible."

You watch what you watch, see what you see, listen to who you listen to, and make up your mind. I tend to agree with the POV that says Cam will be worthless as an NFL QB. Vince Young without the gravitas. If my team needed a QB, I'd look at him as an UDFA. But not earlier.

Mind if I use that as a quote? I have a feeling that one will come back and bite you. I can see taking him in the 2nd or 3rd round. But an UDFA? Cmon man.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I agree on Ingram and I am an Auburn fan. He is going to be the next Deuce McCalister for the Saints.. An absolute beast and I will even go so far as to say he will change the Saints offense to a more run oriented one to take pressure off of Brees. One thing I must point out though is the Saints did not give up a first rounder for Ingram. They simply moved next years 32nd pick to this years 28th pick and it only cost them a low 2nd rounder to do it.

What we all want to know is are you gonna change your name to Ingramisdaman?

 

[Zeff]

The men amongst boys comment was probably an accurate way of explaining his decent stats. Unfortunatley, if someone like myself goes out and dominates a pee wee football league because I'm bigger and faster - that really doesn't project to the NFL very well.

"Man among boys" translates to the NFL in some circumstances, and doesn't in others. A receiver or offensive tackle who is so physically superior to the college players he's matched up against as to make them look laughable at times is likely to find that same success on Sundays. The speed of the game cranks up considerably, but the physical gifts translate.A QB who does the same is now up against 260 lb monsters who are faster than he is, and get paid handsome bounties to take his head off. Newton's not going to translate. He hasn't got the kind of Vick-ish superlatives to fall back on, athletically, where he's arguably the fastest, most athletic player on the field every time he takes a snap. He's a less impressive Vince Young. Albeit without the legendarily rock like intellect. But Cam went #1 based on that same VY man-among-boys wow factor. And I see nothing in his game that says to me he can continue to be a man among boys in the NFL. And nothing in his more bread-and-butter QB'ing abilities that suggests he has the ability to transcend that.

Those of us who are Cam Newton naysayers aren't trying to outsmart the scouts. We're just disagreeing (big time, it would seem) with Carolina's. There was plenty of buzz out there saying lots of teams had no interest in Cam, and that their scouts were saying things like, "he looks terrible."

You watch what you watch, see what you see, listen to who you listen to, and make up your mind. I tend to agree with the POV that says Cam will be worthless as an NFL QB. Vince Young without the gravitas. If my team needed a QB, I'd look at him as an UDFA. But not earlier.

Mind if I use that as a quote? I have a feeling that one will come back and bite you. I can see taking him in the 2nd or 3rd round. But an UDFA? Cmon man.

Hardly. And I wouldn't be alone. There are NFL minds out there who won't waste draft picks on players who they believe have no shot of performing up to NFL standards. You hear every year about teams who simply "don't put players on their boards." Sometimes it's injury, sometimes it's character, sometimes it's the whole package. I can't imagine wasting a 5th rounder on a guy I feel certain can't play QB in the NFL when I could get a guy who is very likely to be a contributor on special teams.

 

[az_prof]

I don't see Ingram going to NO as at all good for him. First, NO is a pass first team. Is he going to replace Reggie Bush as the pass catcher out of the backfield? Plus, he has alot of competition to fight off.

I don't like AJ in Cinn either. We don't even know who their QB is for sure. Plenty of young competition there.

Julio in Atlanta is probably the best situation of these three. He will not have to face double coverage; has a good young Qb; and he will step right into the WR2 role.

As for the QBs: Cam has a tough row to hoe with a depleted team. I am not optimistic. Gabbert is in an ok situation: WRs are average. And the best situation went to Ponder: Sidney Rice, Harvin, ADP, and a West Coast offense that suits him. Locker in Tenn could be a good situation if Britt doesn't self destruct.

 

[FavreCo]

I disagree with almost everything you said.

The only thing I agree with are Ingram and protection for the top QB's. Everything else, I am polar opposite in thinking as you.

The Newton pick will turn many off and they'll stop reading. But he will be very good. Most underrated player picked last night. 1.04 in 2 qb dynasty leagues without a doubt for me.

No. He won't. He will suck. 1st look for the blame to fall on 'no stud WR for him'. Then it will be some other excuse. In that divvision it could be 'tough division', disregarding Matt Ryan's success. Then eventually, after years of suckage, they will realize he sucks and move on. See David Carr, See Vince Young, See Alex Smith. Blame almost always goes elsewhere until you can't take it anymore and have to give up. That willb e Carolina's future.

 

[shader]

I don't see Ingram going to NO as at all good for him. First, NO is a pass first team. Is he going to replace Reggie Bush as the pass catcher out of the backfield? Plus, he has alot of competition to fight off.

I don't like AJ in Cinn either. We don't even know who their QB is for sure. Plenty of young competition there.

Julio in Atlanta is probably the best situation of these three. He will not have to face double coverage; has a good young Qb; and he will step right into the WR2 role.

As for the QBs: Cam has a tough row to hoe with a depleted team. I am not optimistic. Gabbert is in an ok situation: WRs are average. And the best situation went to Ponder: Sidney Rice, Harvin, ADP, and a West Coast offense that suits him. Locker in Tenn could be a good situation if Britt doesn't self destruct.

Who? Pierre Thomas. That's it. Mark Ingram isn't fighting off Chris Ivory. Reggie Bush is on his way out.He has Pierre Thomas and that's his only competition for real carries, and given Thomas' struggle to stay healthy, and Ingram's superior overall skill set, there's no reason to think he'll be in Thomas' shadow for very long at all.

 

[shader]

I disagree with almost everything you said.

The only thing I agree with are Ingram and protection for the top QB's. Everything else, I am polar opposite in thinking as you.

The Newton pick will turn many off and they'll stop reading. But he will be very good. Most underrated player picked last night. 1.04 in 2 qb dynasty leagues without a doubt for me.

No. He won't. He will suck. 1st look for the blame to fall on 'no stud WR for him'. Then it will be some other excuse. In that divvision it could be 'tough division', disregarding Matt Ryan's success. Then eventually, after years of suckage, they will realize he sucks and move on. See David Carr, See Vince Young, See Alex Smith. Blame almost always goes elsewhere until you can't take it anymore and have to give up. That willb e Carolina's future.

What do Alex Smith and David Carr have to do with Cam Newton? Did you just decide to pick three huge busts and somehow use that as proof that Cam Newton will be a bust?

 

[shader]

The men amongst boys comment was probably an accurate way of explaining his decent stats. Unfortunatley, if someone like myself goes out and dominates a pee wee football league because I'm bigger and faster - that really doesn't project to the NFL very well.

"Man among boys" translates to the NFL in some circumstances, and doesn't in others. A receiver or offensive tackle who is so physically superior to the college players he's matched up against as to make them look laughable at times is likely to find that same success on Sundays. The speed of the game cranks up considerably, but the physical gifts translate.A QB who does the same is now up against 260 lb monsters who are faster than he is, and get paid handsome bounties to take his head off. Newton's not going to translate. He hasn't got the kind of Vick-ish superlatives to fall back on, athletically, where he's arguably the fastest, most athletic player on the field every time he takes a snap. He's a less impressive Vince Young. Albeit without the legendarily rock like intellect. But Cam went #1 based on that same VY man-among-boys wow factor. And I see nothing in his game that says to me he can continue to be a man among boys in the NFL. And nothing in his more bread-and-butter QB'ing abilities that suggests he has the ability to transcend that.

Those of us who are Cam Newton naysayers aren't trying to outsmart the scouts. We're just disagreeing (big time, it would seem) with Carolina's. There was plenty of buzz out there saying lots of teams had no interest in Cam, and that their scouts were saying things like, "he looks terrible."

You watch what you watch, see what you see, listen to who you listen to, and make up your mind. I tend to agree with the POV that says Cam will be worthless as an NFL QB. Vince Young without the gravitas. If my team needed a QB, I'd look at him as an UDFA. But not earlier.

Mind if I use that as a quote? I have a feeling that one will come back and bite you. I can see taking him in the 2nd or 3rd round. But an UDFA? Cmon man.

Hardly. And I wouldn't be alone. There are NFL minds out there who won't waste draft picks on players who they believe have no shot of performing up to NFL standards. You hear every year about teams who simply "don't put players on their boards." Sometimes it's injury, sometimes it's character, sometimes it's the whole package. I can't imagine wasting a 5th rounder on a guy I feel certain can't play QB in the NFL when I could get a guy who is very likely to be a contributor on special teams.

What team has said that he will be horrible and that they wouldn't draft him? I can't imagine there is a single team in the NFL that would let him get out of the 3rd round, just due to the upside.

 

[mlball77]

I don't see Ingram going to NO as at all good for him. First, NO is a pass first team. Is he going to replace Reggie Bush as the pass catcher out of the backfield? Plus, he has alot of competition to fight off.

I don't like AJ in Cinn either. We don't even know who their QB is for sure. Plenty of young competition there.

Julio in Atlanta is probably the best situation of these three. He will not have to face double coverage; has a good young Qb; and he will step right into the WR2 role.

As for the QBs: Cam has a tough row to hoe with a depleted team. I am not optimistic. Gabbert is in an ok situation: WRs are average. And the best situation went to Ponder: Sidney Rice, Harvin, ADP, and a West Coast offense that suits him. Locker in Tenn could be a good situation if Britt doesn't self destruct.

Who? Pierre Thomas. That's it. Mark Ingram isn't fighting off Chris Ivory. Reggie Bush is on his way out.He has Pierre Thomas and that's his only competition for real carries, and given Thomas' struggle to stay healthy, and Ingram's superior overall skill set, there's no reason to think he'll be in Thomas' shadow for very long at all.

I'm sure Peyton will use a couple different RBs, but I think this is a case where Ingram is the most talented and will be on the field more than any of the other guys. I love this landing spot for him and see him now as the clear #1 pick in dynasty leagues.

 

[massraider]

Late in the first round of rookie drafts, after 1.07 maybe, I'll jump on Cam.

I have doubts, but there's also a chance he is Randall Cunningham. I like that risk.

 

[cr8f]

Great first round guys. The 2nd and 3rd rounds will be very meaningful for us fantasy dorks, as we should start seeing skill position players flying off the board. But there were some GREAT landing zones for the top talent.

New Orleans -- Mark Ingram

This pick grows on me every time I think about it. I can't think of a better location for Ingram. Not one. At first, I was hesitant when I thought of the "crowded backfield", but those worries melt away when you consider it for just a few minutes. First of all, Pierre Thomas stays hurt. So does Chris Ivory. So does Reggie Bush. I know there has been talk about Ingram's knee, but the bottom line is that he was an iron man for 3 years in the SEC.

He is going to go in there and steal their jobs, take their money and cement that backfield for the rest of Drew Brees career. This is as good a situation as Emmitt walked into, except Ingram is joining the team at their peak. Ivory and Thomas get 5 ypc on that team. What do you think Ingram will do? The only hesitation I have regarding his stats is that you never know if SP will defer to the veteran Thomas out of respect for a few games. But I expect Ingram to win the ROY and be a top 3 draft pick in all fantasy formats in 2012. Perfect pick and if there are any doubts about this fit, understand that the Saints TOOK HIM IN THE FIRST ROUND, AND GAVE UP NEXT YEAR'S FIRST ROUNDER....They wanted him badly.

Nice thread. I have the top pick and someone wants to the trade the 1.3-with Ingram there I may stay put. I'm not looking for advice, just saying I like Ingram, Julio and AJ Green so far in the draft.

Not good news for Pierre Thomas owner who traded me his 3rd rounder and Randy Moss(got sick of him) last season then paid an additional $19 to keep him(RFA).

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Ingram is going to be a fantasy stud in New Orleans. I can't believe that people are doubting that combo. Double-digit TDs and 1200+ total yards right out of the gate, with potential to crash the top 5-7 in year 2.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

But I've read many posters who question Newton's intelligence. That is borderline racism. Strong statement, but if you've watched ONE interview, you realize that he is very well-spoken, and much smarter than Vince, who he gets compared too often. Also, don't forget that Vince had the entire Titans organization on his back in year ONE and was a superstar in Nashville, until he fell apart mentally.

I'll be targeting Newton in the late first/early second simply because of the upside. Can't believe how many people are certain that Newton lacks intelligence when everyone who has sat down and done the chalkboard sessions with him say the opposite. People want to believe certain things and they latch on to anything they can find that proves those things. Auburn had a very simplistic system, yes, but that doesn't mean Newton is dumb. Stop it people.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Late in the first round of rookie drafts, after 1.07 maybe, I'll jump on Cam. I have doubts, but there's also a chance he is Randall Cunningham. I like that risk.

We'll see where some of the better RB and WR land, but yeah 1.7 seems like a decent breakpoint where risk and reward balance out for a Newton pick, especially in 14/16 team leagues.

 

[shader]

Late in the first round of rookie drafts, after 1.07 maybe, I'll jump on Cam. I have doubts, but there's also a chance he is Randall Cunningham. I like that risk.

We'll see where some of the better RB and WR land, but yeah 1.7 seems like a decent breakpoint where risk and reward balance out for a Newton pick, especially in 14/16 team leagues.

I agree, in big leagues I start looking at Newton after Williams and Leshoure are off the board. Not sure who I would take at 1.06..much will depend on where people land today.Bust chance? Sure. But high, high upside.

 

[FavreCo]

I disagree with almost everything you said.

The only thing I agree with are Ingram and protection for the top QB's. Everything else, I am polar opposite in thinking as you.

The Newton pick will turn many off and they'll stop reading. But he will be very good. Most underrated player picked last night. 1.04 in 2 qb dynasty leagues without a doubt for me.

No. He won't. He will suck. 1st look for the blame to fall on 'no stud WR for him'. Then it will be some other excuse. In that divvision it could be 'tough division', disregarding Matt Ryan's success. Then eventually, after years of suckage, they will realize he sucks and move on. See David Carr, See Vince Young, See Alex Smith. Blame almost always goes elsewhere until you can't take it anymore and have to give up. That willb e Carolina's future.

What do Alex Smith and David Carr have to do with Cam Newton? Did you just decide to pick three huge busts and somehow use that as proof that Cam Newton will be a bust?

They actually had comparable numbers in college. Look it up. Ok, let's go with Akili 'one year college wonder' Smith. Scam had 1 year too. How's that. And yes, I chose bums that ended up sucking at the NFL level just like Scam is going to.

 

[FavreCo]

But I've read many posters who question Newton's intelligence. That is borderline racism. Strong statement, but if you've watched ONE interview, you realize that he is very well-spoken, and much smarter than Vince, who he gets compared too often. Also, don't forget that Vince had the entire Titans organization on his back in year ONE and was a superstar in Nashville, until he fell apart mentally.

I'll be targeting Newton in the late first/early second simply because of the upside. Can't believe how many people are certain that Newton lacks intelligence when everyone who has sat down and done the chalkboard sessions with him say the opposite. People want to believe certain things and they latch on to anything they can find that proves those things. Auburn had a very simplistic system, yes, but that doesn't mean Newton is dumb. Stop it people.

You'll be losing too. Name all the superstar QB's who were 1 year wonders in college. This guy is going to suck. He's on a horrible team to boot. I'd love to see all the film that was left on the cutting room floor when Gruden interviewed him and he had no clue what Gruden was talking about.

 

[shader]

But I've read many posters who question Newton's intelligence. That is borderline racism. Strong statement, but if you've watched ONE interview, you realize that he is very well-spoken, and much smarter than Vince, who he gets compared too often. Also, don't forget that Vince had the entire Titans organization on his back in year ONE and was a superstar in Nashville, until he fell apart mentally.

I'll be targeting Newton in the late first/early second simply because of the upside. Can't believe how many people are certain that Newton lacks intelligence when everyone who has sat down and done the chalkboard sessions with him say the opposite. People want to believe certain things and they latch on to anything they can find that proves those things. Auburn had a very simplistic system, yes, but that doesn't mean Newton is dumb. Stop it people.

You'll be losing too. Name all the superstar QB's who were 1 year wonders in college. This guy is going to suck. He's on a horrible team to boot. I'd love to see all the film that was left on the cutting room floor when Gruden interviewed him and he had no clue what Gruden was talking about.

Technically he wasn't a one-year wonder. He was coached by Urban Meyer, then won a championship in Juco, then won a national championship. He didnt' just have a GREAT season, he had what some feel might be the best season by a QB in collegiate history.The SEC is not a place you go to put up Pac-10 esque stats.

 

[Reaper]

Ingram is going to be a fantasy stud in New Orleans. I can't believe that people are doubting that combo. Double-digit TDs and 1200+ total yards right out of the gate, with potential to crash the top 5-7 in year 2.

Wow. Potential? Wouldn't 1200+ yards and 12 TD's plus some decent Receptions place him right around 7 already in year 1?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Ingram is going to be a fantasy stud in New Orleans. I can't believe that people are doubting that combo. Double-digit TDs and 1200+ total yards right out of the gate, with potential to crash the top 5-7 in year 2.

Wow. Potential? Wouldn't 1200+ yards and 12 TD's plus some decent Receptions place him right around 7 already in year 1?

probably close - but Im talking fantasy draft wise with the rock solid top 6 of CJ2K, AD, Foster, Rice, Charles, McCoy... Ingram may be considered part of that tier going into 2012 drafts. This year, I expect him to be drafted around the same place Ryan Mathews was last year, mid 2nd to mid 3rd

 

[greggorymac]

I agree on Ingram and I am an Auburn fan. He is going to be the next Deuce McCalister for the Saints.. An absolute beast and I will even go so far as to say he will change the Saints offense to a more run oriented one to take pressure off of Brees. One thing I must point out though is the Saints did not give up a first rounder for Ingram. They simply moved next years 32nd pick to this years 28th pick and it only cost them a low 2nd rounder to do it.

What we all want to know is are you gonna change your name to Ingramisdaman?

DO IT! Ingramisdaman

 

[Shutout]

Re: ingram, I'm with Zeff with most of this. After reading everyone's points/counter-points, I see the trend of people REALLY thinking Ingram's going to be an automatic success based on two things: His success in college and how the Saints' backs fared so well as "they had open lanes, etc".

Ingram DID have success in college but, a lot of guys do. Jamarcus Russell was wildly successful...in college...in the SEC...on a national powerhouse team. See?

I get it...he was great, he was on TV every week, won the Heismann,looks a lot like Emmitt Smith when he runs (and I think that is one thing that makes people make unnatural connections of the dots). But there's the trap: he is not Emmitt Smith. Not yet. Stats and odds would say he isn't likely to be. And THE THING I haven't heard anyone bring up when they talk about how great he is going to be on THAT offense and doing thing Deuce did or Emmit did is: The Saints are a passing team and THAT is what will work against him. This is a line that is not like Alabama, is not like the Cowboys back in the day, is not like the Saints back in the day. They don't plow roads. They stand up and step back and pass protect for the most part. That is a mentality among linemen. They typically have bodies and techniques and systems that favor one or the other. to think that they will morph into a road crew plowing roads in 4 months from now isn't very realistic. Understandable, their pass game CAN set up nice lanes but that's more than just a given. You do have to ahve some burst and speed to really take advantage of that. Ingram reminds me of Jamal Lewis in a way. When JLEW had the quick feet AND some speed, he was dynamic. But when he slowed just a bit, he looked like a 70 year old and avg. 3.0/carry for a few years.

not saying its the same. Just saying that you have to be careful to assume these things because when you play for Alabama, you are playing with elite teammates across the board. All those lineman and other temmates are going to give you the "Emmitt Smith" opportunity. New Orleans, as good as they are a team, aren't the 90's Cowboys road crew. Their success is based on passing and that means the priority will always be having the pass game protections right first.

In short, the running opportunities are the by-product here, not the product.

Now had Ingram had went to the Giants and they gave him the 2007 Brandon Jacobs Roll: this becomes a slam dunk. you have to have the talent AND the opportunity to make it as special as what some people are dreaming of when they say "lock for 1500 yards", etc.

You have to keep in mind that when Emmitt was Emmitt and Deuce was Deuce, etc, these were guys carrying the rock 320+ times a year behind BIG HOF o-lineman that liked nothing more than take 2 steps forward and gobble up your children. Not the same in New Orleans right now and kind of hard to envision that Drew Brees scales back to be Troy Aikman in terms of stats anytime soon.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm with Bloom. Ingram will be a high end RB2 in my initial set of projections, no question.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

If they pummel him with targets, sure he will come down with some due to his size, but with Bowe, Meowki, McCluster, and Charles catching balls Baldwin will not have the luxury of getting a billion targets to make his case.

"Tony Meowki" sounds like some kind of mafioso-esque Pokemon. Or some kind of villian that lives on Hello Kitty Island.(I am totally naming one of my fantasy teams some form of "Tony Meowki's Brass Knuckles", or something similar, this year. The team logo will be awesome, if nothing else.)

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If they pummel him with targets, sure he will come down with some due to his size, but with Bowe, Meowki, McCluster, and Charles catching balls Baldwin will not have the luxury of getting a billion targets to make his case.

"Tony Meowki" sounds like some kind of mafioso-esque Pokemon. Or some kind of villian that lives on Hello Kitty Island.(I am totally naming one of my fantasy teams some form of "Tony Meowki's Brass Knuckles", or something similar, this year. The team logo will be awesome, if nothing else.)

Too bad he doesn't play for the Lions, Jags, Panthers or Bengals

 

[Faust]

Peter King on the Chiefs pick of Baldwin

26. Kansas City: Jonathan Baldwin is the kind of playmaker that's in short supply in Kansas City at wide receiver, and will be in shorter supply if they don't re-up Dwayne Bowe for the long-term. After K.C. used a first-rounder on Baldwin, I question whether the Chiefs will pay two receivers.