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Ghost Rider
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Rounders
Footballguy
Yep, call it a hunch. Also ask yourself how many times has LT finished the season #1?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
depends on scoring but including this year, 3 times in my one league which is ppr.
fantasyplayer
Footballguy
In my non PPR league, LT has finished (amongst RBs):2007 YTD - 1
2006 - 1
2005 - 3
2004 - 3
2003 - 2
2002 - 2
That's 6 straight seasons in the the Top 3, including #1 the last 2 seasons. To have him behind Jackson and ADP in a redraft is not very smart IMO.
gregjcross
Footballguy
K Jones is a huge amount of speculation if we are talking about the Lion. Of course, he could be very solid once Martz leaves or is shown the door.
Putting a guy like that in round one is a case of huge overkill on RBs -- ahead of R.Wayne, other rock solid WRs??
Putting a guy like that in round one is a case of huge overkill on RBs -- ahead of R.Wayne, other rock solid WRs??
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The Shizzle
Footballguy
PPR League
1. Tomlinson
2. S Jackson
3. Westbrook
4. Peterson
5. Addai
6. Parker
7. Mcgahee
8. Lynch
9. Portis
10. Bush
11. M Barber
12. Grant
1. Tomlinson
2. S Jackson
3. Westbrook
4. Peterson
5. Addai
6. Parker
7. Mcgahee
8. Lynch
9. Portis
10. Bush
11. M Barber
12. Grant
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moleculo
Footballguy
depends on where he lands.Michael Turner should be a first rounder next year.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Randy Moss would have been worth a first rounder this year.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I can think of half a dozen RBs I would put
in place of Kevin Jones at #11.
No Wayne ?
in place of Kevin Jones at #11.
No Wayne ?
sdsjr3
Footballguy
There is going to be a significant change in how the first round of most drafts go next year. At least for those that are paying attention. Brady, Moss, TO, maybe even Manning or Romo could sneak into the first. OH, and Wayne...holy crap, you have to include him.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
How many great seasons has Jackson had?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
not really good posting. As we all know next year will be totally different. After Peytons 49 td season how many did he have the next year? werent all his players returning? I am not saying Brady and Manning wont go in your first rounds next year, but take your RB and grab say Hasslebeck BigBen later and your team will be better off.Taking a QB in round 1 is still flawed drafting IMO. Now a top end WR at the end of round 1 you can convince me on.There is going to be a significant change in how the first round of most drafts go next year. At least for those that are paying attention. Brady, Moss, TO, maybe even Manning or Romo could sneak into the first. OH, and Wayne...holy crap, you have to include him.
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gregjcross
Footballguy
Its a good posting from the perspective of people sobering up about RBsM. Colston, R. Wayne etc. will be justified ahead of typical late first round RBs that havent consistently reached 1,100 and 7 TDs. And why shouldnt they!not really good posting. As we all know next year will be totally different. After Peytons 49 td season how many did he have the next year? werent all his players returning? I am not saying Brady and Manning wont go in your first rounds next year, but take your RB and grab say Hasslebeck BigBen later and your team will be better off.Taking a QB in round 1 is still flawed drafting IMO. Now a top end WR at the end of round 1 you can convince me on.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
I think there is an issue as to whether his knee will be ready for the season or not
redman
Footballguy
We had a rough year with RB injuries in 2007, so that's what will dicatate your 2008? Isn't this a classic case of using "last year's thinking"?There is going to be a significant change in how the first round of most drafts go next year. At least for those that are paying attention. Brady, Moss, TO, maybe even Manning or Romo could sneak into the first. OH, and Wayne...holy crap, you have to include him.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think this year may be an aberration with RBs scoring a bit less on a relative basis. Unless one believes that the league will have more and more RBBCs (not out of the realm of possibility), IMO RBs will revert back to their justified scarcity value.Its a good posting from the perspective of people sobering up about RBsM. Colston, R. Wayne etc. will be justified ahead of typical late first round RBs that havent consistently reached 1,100 and 7 TDs. And why shouldnt they!not really good posting. As we all know next year will be totally different. After Peytons 49 td season how many did he have the next year? werent all his players returning? I am not saying Brady and Manning wont go in your first rounds next year, but take your RB and grab say Hasslebeck BigBen later and your team will be better off.Taking a QB in round 1 is still flawed drafting IMO. Now a top end WR at the end of round 1 you can convince me on.
moleculo
Footballguy
maybe. It's tough to determine the difference between an outlier and a trend. I thought Manning was worth a first heading into 2007; in hindsight some WR's might be as well. I'd like to see a VBD ranking based on end of year production for the past several years and see if there are any actual trends that w have glossed over.We had a rough year with RB injuries in 2007, so that's what will dicatate your 2008? Isn't this a classic case of using "last year's thinking"?There is going to be a significant change in how the first round of most drafts go next year. At least for those that are paying attention. Brady, Moss, TO, maybe even Manning or Romo could sneak into the first. OH, and Wayne...holy crap, you have to include him.
redman
Footballguy
IMHO it's far more difficult to predict passing game studs than running game studs. Manning is obviously a top-5 QB (at least) every year, but to put him into the top 10 of the draft in most scoring systems means that he has to have one of those crazy years, not merely an "average" year for him. I couldn't predict 2004 for him; Brady's 2007 was only slightly more predictable, but I was skeptical he could gel that well, that fast with so many new WR's. You just never know. In the meantime LT is yet again justifying his top-5 draft status, as would SJax but for the injuries. It's like that every year with teh RB's, except for injuries and whenever they hit the proverbial wall in their careers . . . but that just means that they're replaced by another RB at the top of the rankings by the end of the year.maybe. It's tough to determine the difference between an outlier and a trend. I thought Manning was worth a first heading into 2007; in hindsight some WR's might be as well. I'd like to see a VBD ranking based on end of year production for the past several years and see if there are any actual trends that w have glossed over.We had a rough year with RB injuries in 2007, so that's what will dicatate your 2008? Isn't this a classic case of using "last year's thinking"?There is going to be a significant change in how the first round of most drafts go next year. At least for those that are paying attention. Brady, Moss, TO, maybe even Manning or Romo could sneak into the first. OH, and Wayne...holy crap, you have to include him.
moleculo
Footballguy
no doubt. However, i'm not talking about the top 5 RB's - I think that the first 5 picks should always be RB and that is not up for debate any time soon. however, I'm not convinced that QB's and/or WRs can't sneak into positions 6-12. I'm also not talking about 6-12 being completely QB/WR, but at least a couple of non-RB's should make the cut.IMHO it's far more difficult to predict passing game studs than running game studs. Manning is obviously a top-5 QB (at least) every year, but to put him into the top 10 of the draft in most scoring systems means that he has to have one of those crazy years, not merely an "average" year for him. I couldn't predict 2004 for him; Brady's 2007 was only slightly more predictable, but I was skeptical he could gel that well, that fast with so many new WR's. You just never know. In the meantime LT is yet again justifying his top-5 draft status, as would SJax but for the injuries. It's like that every year with teh RB's, except for injuries and whenever they hit the proverbial wall in their careers . . . but that just means that they're replaced by another RB at the top of the rankings by the end of the year.maybe. It's tough to determine the difference between an outlier and a trend. I thought Manning was worth a first heading into 2007; in hindsight some WR's might be as well. I'd like to see a VBD ranking based on end of year production for the past several years and see if there are any actual trends that w have glossed over.We had a rough year with RB injuries in 2007, so that's what will dicatate your 2008? Isn't this a classic case of using "last year's thinking"?There is going to be a significant change in how the first round of most drafts go next year. At least for those that are paying attention. Brady, Moss, TO, maybe even Manning or Romo could sneak into the first. OH, and Wayne...holy crap, you have to include him.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
looks like many will be sleeping on Frank Gore next year.
redman
Footballguy
I like him as well. I think MBIII will be all alone as a starter in that backfield next year too, which is huge.
Steel Town
Footballguy
I think Ryan Grant will deserve some consideration.
I doubt Parker goes that high, considering the lack of tds.
I doubt Parker goes that high, considering the lack of tds.
moleculo
Footballguy
here is how the first round should have gone in 2007:
1 Brian Westbrook
2 Ronnie Brown
3 LaDainian Tomlinson
4 Tom Brady
5 Joseph Addai
6 Adrian Peterson
7 Randy Moss
8 Steven Jackson
9 Reggie Bush
10 Jamal Lewis
11 Andre Johnson
12 Willis McGahee
this is for PPR in terms of points per game, sorted using Joes VBD Excel app.
1 Brian Westbrook
2 Ronnie Brown
3 LaDainian Tomlinson
4 Tom Brady
5 Joseph Addai
6 Adrian Peterson
7 Randy Moss
8 Steven Jackson
9 Reggie Bush
10 Jamal Lewis
11 Andre Johnson
12 Willis McGahee
this is for PPR in terms of points per game, sorted using Joes VBD Excel app.
redman
Footballguy
That seems anomolous to me. FWP may not get double digit TD's, but I'd figure he's far closer to that number than he will be to this year's number.
1. Tomlinson
2. Westbrook
3. Peterson
4. Addai
5. Jackson
6. Barber--if jones is gone--game over
7. Brady
8. Moss
9. Mcgahee
10. Gore
11. Terrell Owens
12. Andre Johnson
Ronnie Brown would be my #2 or 3 if not for the injjury, he could push his way up to the 6 or 7 range if the recovery goes well.
2. Westbrook
3. Peterson
4. Addai
5. Jackson
6. Barber--if jones is gone--game over
7. Brady
8. Moss
9. Mcgahee
10. Gore
11. Terrell Owens
12. Andre Johnson
Ronnie Brown would be my #2 or 3 if not for the injjury, he could push his way up to the 6 or 7 range if the recovery goes well.
