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[RabidRabbit]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.

In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.

DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.

You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.

All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

 

[Bears_Man2]

I'm a huge fan of Chris Perry's talent, but given he's MIA, you can't help but to love Rudi this year.

 

[MLBrandow]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2004 cin |  16 |   361   1454	4.0   12 |	15	 84   5.6	0 || 2005 cin |  16 |   337   1458	4.3   12 |	23	 90   3.9	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

 

[duaneok66]

I'm a huge fan of Chris Perry's talent, but given he's MIA, you can't help but to love Rudi this year.

Perry being MIA doesn't help Rudi that much . . . you will see Watson on passing downs instead of Perry . . .

 

[RabidRabbit]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

+--------------------------+-------------------------+				 |		  Rushing		 |		Receiving		|+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards	Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2004 cin |  16 |   361   1454	4.0   12 |	15	 84   5.6	0 || 2005 cin |  16 |   337   1458	4.3   12 |	23	 90   3.9	0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

So you must be an easy sucker in trade talks OR you are in a total points league. Rudi did a fabulous job of landing owners in the 2nd division of their standings by starting out so poorly. Final stats do not tell the story. If a guy had a huge 2nd half, good for you if you were able to steal him in a trade after his value had been all but diminshed. Another guy had him last year in our league and he certainly did not act like a 1500/12 RB. In fact look at the game logs for 2004 and 2005. In '04 the stats were pretty consistent each week. His TD were spread throughout the year and so was his yardage. I already pointed out his dreadful 1st half last year.Fact is fact, except when you ignore the truths.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

Did Rudy steal your lunch money or sumthin`

 

[RabidRabbit]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

Did Rudy steal your lunch money or sumthin`

Seems like it doesn't it. I've never owned him. I'm just pointing out that he should not be a lock for as a team's #1 RB.

 

[gocats]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

Hey Hucks where have all the good sharks gone?

 

[cracKer]

Did you trade him before week 8 last year?

 

[gocats]

I'll let his stats and Rudi's play speak for themselves

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6v9qDEJ4UZ4

 

[renesauz]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

Hey Hucks where have all the good sharks gone?

My thoughts exactly!

 

[RabidRabbit]

Here's what I'm talking about:

Ths Sinking Ship that was Rudi in 2005.

Week 1: 126/1

2: 90/0

3: 84/0

4: 88/0

5: 76/0

6: 80/1

7: 65/0

8: 72/0

That'll kill you. Add to the mix that Palmer's shakey leg and a bottom five SOS verse the run and you have a recipe for a gloomy season. Just stay away from him and grab him on the cheap if you think he's going to post good numbers again. He looks great in the 2nd half.

 

[Big Score]

Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

Not saying one thing or the other, but these lines cracked me up!

 

[jurb26]

I only had Rudi in one of my leagues last year... I won that league.

 

[RabidRabbit]

I'll let his stats and Rudi's play speak for themselves

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6v9qDEJ4UZ4

That's a joke. Highlights vs. Game Log. Did your league reward points for having a good run against Minn, Houston, GB and Detroit? "Bengal Brian" produced that fine footage. Good thing Rudi played Celv twice last year that accounted for half of his 100+ yrd games. I win.

 

[RabidRabbit]

This is not Rudi Huckstable I'm trashing. It is okay.

 

[The Jerk]

RabidRabbit,

On the off chance that you actually are interested in discussing Rudi...

Point 1:

Rudi's 2005 season closely paralleled Clinton Portis in terms of a slow start and strong finish. Before his injury, were you planning on giving the same advice on CP?

Rudi averaged 10+ ppg (FBG scoring) in the first 8 games, followed by 18+ ppg in his final 8 games.

Portis averaged 12+ ppg in the first 8 games, and 18+ ppg in the final 8 games.

Portis' early-season advantage basically came down to his 3-TD game vs. SF. Keep in mind that before that game Portis had not scored a TD thru 5 contests.

Point 2: Which would you rather have? A strong start and a fade just in time for the FF stretch run and playoffs OR a slow start followed by a strong finishing kick when the games matter most?

Point 3: What did the Bengals do that coincided with Rudi's surge at the halfway point last year? Carson Palmer started running the no-huddle offense. If you think Palmer will not be able to play OR the Bengals won't continue that approach, then perhaps you should stay away from Rudi. Otherwise, I'd say the second-half numbers are a closer predictor to Rudi's 2006 ppg.

I'm not a Bengal fan, nor a huge Rudi fan, but I don't see any reason to push him out of the first round. I'll agree that he would be good value in the 2nd, but that's like saying LT would be good value at picks 7-9. Great, except he won't be there in all but the most eccentric leagues.

 

[jurb26]

RabidRabbit,On the off chance that you actually are interested in discussing Rudi...Point 1:Rudi's 2005 season closely paralleled Clinton Portis in terms of a slow start and strong finish. Before his injury, were you planning on giving the same advice on CP?Rudi averaged 10+ ppg (FBG scoring) in the first 8 games, followed by 18+ ppg in his final 8 games.Portis averaged 12+ ppg in the first 8 games, and 18+ ppg in the final 8 games.Portis' early-season advantage basically came down to his 3-TD game vs. SF. Keep in mind that before that game Portis had not scored a TD thru 5 contests.Point 2: Which would you rather have? A strong start and a fade just in time for the FF stretch run and playoffs OR a slow start followed by a strong finishing kick when the games matter most?Point 3: What did the Bengals do that coincided with Rudi's surge at the halfway point last year? Carson Palmer started running the no-huddle offense. If you think Palmer will not be able to play OR the Bengals won't continue that approach, then perhaps you should stay away from Rudi. Otherwise, I'd say the second-half numbers are a closer predictor to Rudi's 2006 ppg.I'm not a Bengal fan, nor a huge Rudi fan, but I don't see any reason to push him out of the first round. I'll agree that he would be good value in the 2nd, but that's like saying LT would be good value at picks 7-9. Great, except he won't be there in all but the most eccentric leagues.

Come on, it was shtich like this thread that landed me Rudi in the 3rd last year.

 

[The Jerk]

I have my answer:

Before Portis tried on his "Rod Woodson," I would have put him in with the first four.Now, I think he slips past the next group of:SJax, LJordan, RBrown, Edge.Does Portis slip to the bottom of the 1st round? Do you consider someone else in the second 4 I've listed above?

Please explain why Portis is allowed to start slow and finish fast, but Rudi is not.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I'll let his stats and Rudi's play speak for themselves

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6v9qDEJ4UZ4

That's a joke. Highlights vs. Game Log. Did your league reward points for having a good run against Minn, Houston, GB and Detroit? "Bengal Brian" produced that fine footage. Good thing Rudi played Celv twice last year that accounted for half of his 100+ yrd games. I win.

Lets not forget he was playing with a knee inury and had surgery in the offseason and now feels great.He never complained or made excuses,as he didnt want to be a distraction...that makes him a high character team player...a first round pick in my book.

 

[gocats]

I'll let his stats and Rudi's play speak for themselves

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6v9qDEJ4UZ4

That's a joke. Highlights vs. Game Log. Did your league reward points for having a good run against Minn, Houston, GB and Detroit? "Bengal Brian" produced that fine footage. Good thing Rudi played Celv twice last year that accounted for half of his 100+ yrd games. I win.

EDIT: That doesnt even diserve a reply.

 

[justmike73]

Rudi plays hard and is a good RB given the Bengals offense. However, they are loaded in WR and depend on the air attack. Especially if Carson is healthy. I know they said they would try to balance the runw ith the pass this year, but with their recieving corps I just dont see it happening. I'd take Rudi as a second RB for when my primary has a bye week. I would not make him my meat and potatoes RB though.

On the plus side, he does have good hands and does not fumble a lot. Also, he might be a force in the red zone since Cinci decided to neglect their need for a tight end that can catch passes. That limits their redzone attack to giving it to the RB or hoping to find a WR open. The bad side of Rudi is that he cant catch a pass if it was super glued to his hands. So, in leagues that award points to RB recieving yards you will take a hit there. My 2 cents.

 

[The Jerk]

I'd take Rudi as a second RB for when my primary has a bye week. I would not make him my meat and potatoes RB though.

We'd all like to have SA/LT/LJ as our number one back. Actually we'd like two of them on our roster. After these three, with Portis injured, there are questions about every other RB. Tiki is likely #4, but no one else stands out. Some RB has to be #5, 6, 7, etc.So unless you're drafting top 5, you'll be left sorting through the RBs for a #1. You could do worse than the guy who has been top 8 in ppg among RBs for each of the past two seasons, i.e., Rudi. Sorry if that doesn't meet your standards, but I'll be thrilled if I can get him drafting 10th.

 

[SuperJohn96]

I won my championship in the SFL with Rudi as my #1 back, so i don't get the hate on a RB with 24 TDs and 2800 yards in the last two seasons....

 

[BL Titans]

Final stats do not tell the story

a RB with 24 TDs and 2800 yards in the last two seasons....

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[barndog]

I love him. Every week when I plug him in I know he's good for 100 and a TD. He's comfort food.

 

[Defending Champs]

Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

Not saying one thing or the other, but these lines cracked me up!

I went back and read this part a couple times myself...just couldn't get passed it.

 

[David Yudkin]

Counting the 9 games he started in place of Corey Dillion in 2003 and all of 2004 and 2005, Johnson has averaged 100 total yards a game and his stats project out to 1601 total yards and 12.5 TD over a full season. That works out to 235 fantasy points on a full year--no matter what games he gets them in. While that won't get him into the uber elite top tier of RB, it will get him in the RB 7 or 8 range (unless it's a year with several RB with higher than normal RB production).

He plays every week, so while some will complain that he had weeks with "only" 8 or 9 fantasy points, that still is better than some other backs that get dinged up and don't play--or even worse guys that are banged up and either play sparingly or are always game time decisions.

Compared to other RB available near where Johnson typically gets drafted, he's proven more than some of those guys and is pretty reliable. His upside might be limited in that he probably won't do much better, but at least you know what you are getting with Rudi.

To date, what has Brown, Williams, Jackson, etc. shown over a full season? They may be projected for better seasons, but they haven't produced them as of yet. (Not saying that they can't or won't be productive, only that up until now they haven't had a whole season of solid production.)

 

[nygiants56]

Here's what I'm talking about:

Ths Sinking Ship that was Rudi in 2005.

Week 1: 126/1

2: 90/0

3: 84/0

4: 88/0

5: 76/0

6: 80/1

7: 65/0

8: 72/0

That'll kill you. Add to the mix that Palmer's shakey leg and a bottom five SOS verse the run and you have a recipe for a gloomy season. Just stay away from him and grab him on the cheap if you think he's going to post good numbers again. He looks great in the 2nd half.

first, you're not getting Rudi 'on the cheap' ..he's a stud RB, and will likely be gone 2 rounds into any fantasy draft..sinking ship?! how so?! he was better as the year went on!!!...did you trade him after week 8 or what? your post sounds like nothing but sour grapes..

if you want to get technical, ,LT had a bad season too..

failed to rush for more than 76 yards in 9 different games, scored just 5 tds in final 7 games of 2005, with just 2 rec tds all year, failed to score a td in 4 straight weeks, failed to rush for more than 70 yards, 5 different times..all this , of course, from the #1,2, or 3 draft spot..

in relation to where Rudi is drafted, he's a bargain, not only because Perry is not,never was, and probably never will be a threat to take over his job, but because Rudi got stronger as the year went on...in the final 8 weeks of 2005, Rudi rushed for:

three 100-yard games

4 games where he rushed for more than 76 yards in each

4 multi TD games ( 2 tds each game)

only 2 games during second half of 2005, did Rudi NOT score a rushing TD.

in 2 straight seasons as a featured back,he's seen over 335 carries in each, rushed for 1450+ yards in each, and recorded 12 tds in each..show me a RB who is more consistent than Rudi Johnson, that will be picked at or around his avg. draft position...

Now they plan to lean on him even MORE to alleviate pressure on Palmer so he doesn't re-injured his knee, and, because Palmer might not be 100% on opening day, or might miss a few weeks to begin the season..

all the MORE reason to love Rudi..

 

[BigTex]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

Silly Rabbit Trix are for Kids.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Can someone explain to me what's going on in here?

:whoosh:

 

[fsufan]

Here's what I'm talking about:Ths Sinking Ship that was Rudi in 2005. Week 1: 126/12: 90/03: 84/04: 88/0 5: 76/06: 80/17: 65/08: 72/0 That'll kill you. Add to the mix that Palmer's shakey leg and a bottom five SOS verse the run and you have a recipe for a gloomy season. Just stay away from him and grab him on the cheap if you think he's going to post good numbers again. He looks great in the 2nd half.

I had Rudi as my #1 RB in one of my dynasty leagues last year and I still made the playoff despite a poor week 2-8. FF, just like the NFL, is more than just one guy.

 

[TankRizzo]

the main reason I don't like him is because he's horribly inconsistant. His numbers get padded with huge games against crummy teams.

 

[Keys Myaths]

the main reason I don't like him is because he's horribly inconsistant. His numbers get padded with huge games against crummy teams.

Ah.So 76/2 against Indy, 114/2 against Baltimore, and 98/2 AT Pittsburgh were all "padded numbers with huge games against crummy teams?"Man, I'd hate to see what he did against the crummy defenses.

 

[Borat]

I won my league last year and Rudi was the first RB I took.

Of course, it helped that my 1. Manning, 2. Rudi, 3. Jordan, 4. Gates, 5. LJ draft strategy worked out exactly as planned.

 

[theToes]

I have the 12th pick in one of my leagues and I will take Rudi in a heartbeat and smile. He plays all of the time and his stats over the last two years, that have been pointed out in earlier posts, are comparable to backs in the top 5.

 

[TankRizzo]

the main reason I don't like him is because he's horribly inconsistant. His numbers get padded with huge games against crummy teams.

Ah.So 76/2 against Indy, 114/2 against Baltimore, and 98/2 AT Pittsburgh were all "padded numbers with huge games against crummy teams?"Man, I'd hate to see what he did against the crummy defenses.

+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  cle  |   26   126  |	12  |  1 ||  2  min  |   22	90  |	 3  |  0 ||  3  chi  |   25	84  |	-2  |  0 ||  4  hou  |   19	88  |	 0  |  0 ||  5  jax  |   18	76  |	 7  |  0 ||  6  ten  |   18	80  |	 3  |  1 ||  7  pit  |   12	65  |	 1  |  0 ||  8  gnb  |   22	72  |	 0  |  0 ||  9  bal  |   29	97  |	15  |  1 || 11  ind  |   16	76  |	 9  |  2 || 12  bal  |   27   114  |	 5  |  2 || 13  pit  |   21	98  |	 5  |  2 || 14  cle  |   30   169  |	11  |  1 || 15  det  |   24   117  |	14  |  2 || 16  buf  |   18	88  |	 8  |  0 || 17  kan  |   10	18  |	-1  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  337  1458  |	90  | 12 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+

Yes, weeks at a time under 90 yards without a TD. If there are other options on the table I go for them. I'm not saying he's awful, but he frustrates me when he fails to put up big numbers on a team like Houston.

 

[Bri]

He had two freaking TDs in the first 8 games. And it is not like he made up for not scoring by ripping up the yardage totals as he only had 1 game of 100 combined yrds.In fact he only had four 100 yrd games last year.DUDE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BETTER THAN THIS WITH YOUR 1st ROUND PICK.You at least have to take the chance that the other guy you could select can put up better numbers.All I hear is that Rudi has a touch SOS in 2006, but that he fought through that last year, and so he's a good pick this year. UH SORRY, you lost your shirt, home and car if you put money on that dude. He sunk you early on. He blows in head-to-head. and while it is true that any NFL RB would probably suffer if his starting QB went down for any length of time, it is not good when that possibility for an injured QB is through the roof. Palmer is a huge injury risk and definitely pushes Rudi to Round 2. Don't drink the kool-aid. Hate on him. Rudi punks you.

Didn't Perry have knee surgery not that long ago? even if just a "clean up"?Rudi is not a super talent with blazing speed and a plethora of moves but his stats hold up with just about anyone when you go by age. He's been getting it done for a few years now, nothing wrong with expecting it IMO

 

[BigTex]

the main reason I don't like him is because he's horribly inconsistant. His numbers get padded with huge games against crummy teams.

Ah.So 76/2 against Indy, 114/2 against Baltimore, and 98/2 AT Pittsburgh were all "padded numbers with huge games against crummy teams?"Man, I'd hate to see what he did against the crummy defenses.

 

[TankRizzo]

Even worse, he put up numbers on tough teams and layed an egg against the likes of Houston and Green Bay. Like I said, he's horribly inconsistant, just when you think you can count on him he rolls up 72 yards and 0 TDs.He's not a bad guy to have, I'm just saying that "I" don't like him because you can't count on him. I like a little consistancy.

 

[Winston Smith]

While I think the initial post is a little over the top, this is a worthwhile thread.

RR is correct in pointing out that Rudi didn't post terribly exciting numbers in weeks 2-8 of last season. If he was your RB1 during that time period, you were probably losing games unless your RB2 was playing well or you had very good WR.

The main reason for concern with Rudi is that his lack of receiving yards makes him rather TD dependent; if he doesn't get in the end zone, 85-90 yards from your RB1 isn't going to win you many games, particularly when you have to spend a top 12 pick to get those stats. Rudi is unquestionably a safe pick; but he may not be a pick that leads to many championships.

 

[TankRizzo]

While I think the initial post is a little over the top, this is a worthwhile thread.RR is correct in pointing out that Rudi didn't post terribly exciting numbers in weeks 2-8 of last season. If he was your RB1 during that time period, you were probably losing games unless your RB2 was playing well or you had very good WR. The main reason for concern with Rudi is that his lack of receiving yards makes him rather TD dependent; if he doesn't get in the end zone, 85-90 yards from your RB1 isn't going to win you many games, particularly when you have to spend a top 12 pick to get those stats. Rudi is unquestionably a safe pick; but he may not be a pick that leads to many championships.

Exactly. If you're in a 12 team league then you deal with him. But I had him in a smaller league and got frustrated with his lack of production during his slump and he was sitting on my bench when he decided to put up some decent numbers. I've had my fair share of him, when I've owned him he's just been so frustrating that I'd rather just not deal with him.

 

[ATC1]

Did you trade him before week 8 last year?

I traded Rudi and Chambers for L. Jordan and J. Smith in week 8. We all know what Rudi and Chambers did at the end of the season. I made the playoffs and lost in the 2nd round to the guy with S. Smith and LJ, but if I had Chambers and Rudi at the end of the year I might have had a chance. I did not go back and see what the score would have been.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Even worse, he put up numbers on tough teams and layed an egg against the likes of Houston and Green Bay. Like I said, he's horribly inconsistant, just when you think you can count on him he rolls up 72 yards and 0 TDs.

Waiiit a second...Now you're REVERSING your original argument?Oh, God.

 

[Frank Black]

Rudi is going in the early 2nd round in most drafts I've seen in most 12 team leagues. Ppeople are increasingly using 1.10, 1.11, and 1.12 for stud WR picks these days. For early second round, he's gold.

BTW, I wasn't aware that Perry is missing in action. Can someone explain?

 

[ATC1]

Rudi is going in the early 2nd round in most drafts I've seen in most 12 team leagues. Ppeople are increasingly using 1.10, 1.11, and 1.12 for stud WR picks these days. For early second round, he's gold.BTW, I wasn't aware that Perry is missing in action. Can someone explain?

He had a knee scope in the offseason, but now he is missing time because of an ankle sprain. He is currently on the PUP.

 

[MLBrandow]

I mean, at least when I hate on Chester Taylor or Ronnie Brown, I have stats and game film to legitimize my claim and make a half-decent argument.

This is just pure

I'd rather have a guy who produces the best late in the season. Wouln't you?

 

[The Duff Man]

Dynasty league:

Week 7 last year - Traded Dunn and 1.11 rookie pick for R Johnson and Mike Clayton

A month ago traded 1.5, 2.7 and Mike Clayton for 1.9, 1.11 and S Moss

This week - Traded R Johnson, 1.7, 1.11 for S Alexander, M Morris, B Leftwich and 2.9

Buy low/sell high at it's finest.

Net:

Gave: Dunn, 1.5, 1.7, 1.11, 2.7

Got: S Alexander, S Moss, M Morris, B Leftwich, 1.9, 2.9

 

[TankRizzo]

Even worse, he put up numbers on tough teams and layed an egg against the likes of Houston and Green Bay. Like I said, he's horribly inconsistant, just when you think you can count on him he rolls up 72 yards and 0 TDs.Waiiit a second...Now you're REVERSING your original argument?Oh, God.

The point I was trying to make is that he has a lot of down games for the few up games you pointed out. You're simply harping on the fact that I wrongly said he padded his stats against crappy teams when actuality his statistics are far more sporadic than that. My point still stands, you're arguing over semantics.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Even worse, he put up numbers on tough teams and layed an egg against the likes of Houston and Green Bay. Like I said, he's horribly inconsistant, just when you think you can count on him he rolls up 72 yards and 0 TDs.Waiiit a second...Now you're REVERSING your original argument?Oh, God.

The point I was trying to make is that he has a lot of down games for the few up games you pointed out. You're simply harping on the fact that I wrongly said he padded his stats against crappy teams when actuality his statistics are far more sporadic than that. My point still stands, you're arguing over semantics.

EVERY good player in FF will have a few bad games and a few good games.The bell curve is a #####, isn't it?