Rumor: McNabb refused to wear a wristband (1 Viewer)

[dgreen]

A local DC morning radio show revealed this morning that 2 sources confirmed to them that the Shanahans asked McNabb to wear a wristband sometime last season and he refused because it would damage his image.

Lavar Arrington does a show on the same radio station and apparently he's heard that rumor from at least one additional source.

 

[greggorymac]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

 

[Dexter Manley]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/report-mcnabb-refused-to-wear-a-wristband-with-plays/

Report: McNabb refused to wear a wristband with plays

Posted by Mike Florio on May 12, 2011, 2:04 PM EDT

APAs the marriage between the Redskins and quarterback Donovan McNabb moves toward an inevitable divorce (annulment may be the better word), our friends at the Sports Junkies on 106.7 the Fan in D.C. have added a little grease to the fire.

According to the Sports Junkies, citing multiple unnamed sources, coach Mike Shanahan asked McNabb to wear a wristband after he struggled to remember plays. McNabb declined, explaining that it would make him look stupid.

Per the report, owner Daniel Snyder became furious with Shanahan when he learned after the season that McNabb wouldn’t wear a wristband.

So wherever McNabb plays in 2011, it’ll be interesting to see whether he’ll wear a wristband.

 

[Dexter Manley]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/12/report-mcnabb-refused-to-wear-a-wristband-with-plays/

Report: McNabb refused to wear a wristband with plays

Posted by Mike Florio on May 12, 2011, 2:04 PM EDT

APAs the marriage between the Redskins and quarterback Donovan McNabb moves toward an inevitable divorce (annulment may be the better word), our friends at the Sports Junkies on 106.7 the Fan in D.C. have added a little grease to the fire.

According to the Sports Junkies, citing multiple unnamed sources, coach Mike Shanahan asked McNabb to wear a wristband after he struggled to remember plays. McNabb declined, explaining that it would make him look stupid.

Per the report, owner Daniel Snyder became furious with Shanahan when he learned after the season that McNabb wouldn’t wear a wristband.

So wherever McNabb plays in 2011, it’ll be interesting to see whether he’ll wear a wristband.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

I just don't get all the hate for McNabb. Get the impression he is pretty down to earth, and he has had a pretty decent career. I can understand Eagle fan frustration, but the comments towards McNabb feel more like personal attacks rather than professional criticism.

 

[dgreen]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Why in the world would they purposely smear a player that everybody and their dog knows they'll be trying to trade?

 

[dgreen]

I just don't get all the hate for McNabb. Get the impression he is pretty down to earth, and he has had a pretty decent career. I can understand Eagle fan frustration, but the comments towards McNabb feel more like personal attacks rather than professional criticism.

Are you assuming the report is false? If it's true, how is this a "personal attack" and "hate for McNabb"?

 

[dgreen]

Per the report, owner Daniel Snyder became furious with Shanahan when he learned after the season that McNabb wouldn’t wear a wristband.

Good news: Snyder was in the dark on this, indicating that Shanny is really in charge (which some - not me - have doubted).Possible bad news: Sounds like Snyder thinks he should have been in the loop, if I'm reading that correctly, indicating the thinks he should know about that kind of stuff.

 

[saintfool]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

it would be interesting to learn whether this is before or after they gave mcnabb a $70m extension in early November.personally, this sounds silly.

 

[dgreen]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

it would be interesting to learn whether this is before or after they gave mcnabb a $70m extension in early November.

Yes, that would be interesting. But, keep in mind, it wasn't really that big of a contract. I don't remember the details, but it's been widely reported that the real terms of the deal don't come anywhere near what one would understand from the headlines.

personally, this sounds silly.

What is this referring to?

 

[_lurker_]

Reports are that a wrist ban would've smeared his fake tan.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Why in the world would they purposely smear a player that everybody and their dog knows they'll be trying to trade?

There's no way they can trade him with the roster bonus and salary he's due. He'll be released.

 

[TheFanatic]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

it would be interesting to learn whether this is before or after they gave mcnabb a $70m extension in early November.

Yes, that would be interesting. But, keep in mind, it wasn't really that big of a contract. I don't remember the details, but it's been widely reported that the real terms of the deal don't come anywhere near what one would understand from the headlines.

personally, this sounds silly.

What is this referring to?

The deal he signed only really kicks in if he's on the roster game 1 of 2012. So they signed him to the big deal that he had to basically earn with his play for the rest of the season. They will pay him not much of anything more than the original deal he signed.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Why in the world would they purposely smear a player that everybody and their dog knows they'll be trying to trade?

There's no way they can trade him with the roster bonus and salary he's due. He'll be released.

He's not due one cent unless he is on the roster for game 1, basically.Link

The exercise period on the $10 million option bonus in McNabb's contract is between the first day of the league year and the day after the first game, according to an NFL Players Association source. This means Washington can go through this winter and spring before it makes a determination on whether to exercise the $10 million option bonus payment in McNabb's deal.

...

In McNabb's case, the Redskins paid their quarterback $3.75 million in 2010 for the right to pay him $12.5 million in 2011 and control his rights.

If the Redskins cut him after the year or trade him, they are on the hook for only the $3.75 million while McNabb has his football freedom.

 

[saintfool]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

it would be interesting to learn whether this is before or after they gave mcnabb a $70m extension in early November.

Yes, that would be interesting. But, keep in mind, it wasn't really that big of a contract. I don't remember the details, but it's been widely reported that the real terms of the deal don't come anywhere near what one would understand from the headlines.

personally, this sounds silly.

What is this referring to?

i understand that he wasn't going to ever see the full value of the contract but surely you don't make any deal for him following something like that, if true. this is why i don't think this story is even remotely true.

 

[Doug B]

Joe Montana wore a wristband with scripted plays on it. A lof of WCO teams have done this ever since ... why on earth would McNabb take umbrage?

 

[32 Counter Pass]

I just don't get all the hate for McNabb. Get the impression he is pretty down to earth, and he has had a pretty decent career. I can understand Eagle fan frustration, but the comments towards McNabb feel more like personal attacks rather than professional criticism.

Are you assuming the report is false? If it's true, how is this a "personal attack" and "hate for McNabb"?

No I am not making any assumptions about this particular report. It comes comes on the heals of Hopkins ridiculous comments, and what seems like a theme when it comes to McNabb. :whoosh:

 

[JamesTheScot]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

it would be interesting to learn whether this is before or after they gave mcnabb a $70m extension in early November.personally, this sounds silly.

The part where Snyder was ill with Shanny is what raised my eyebrows. Was he mad at Shanny:a) For insulting McNabb by asking McNabb to wear a wristband, b) For not making McNabb wear the wristband or c) For not telling him about it before he invested more money in McNabb in November?

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I just don't get all the hate for McNabb. Get the impression he is pretty down to earth, and he has had a pretty decent career. I can understand Eagle fan frustration, but the comments towards McNabb feel more like personal attacks rather than professional criticism.

I never have gotten it either. But if one thing on this site is "carve it in granite" certain, it's that nothing you will say will ever convince the haters that he's not the worst QB in the history of ever.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Why in the world would they purposely smear a player that everybody and their dog knows they'll be trying to trade?

There's no way they can trade him with the roster bonus and salary he's due. He'll be released.

He's not due one cent unless he is on the roster for game 1, basically.Link

The exercise period on the $10 million option bonus in McNabb's contract is between the first day of the league year and the day after the first game, according to an NFL Players Association source. This means Washington can go through this winter and spring before it makes a determination on whether to exercise the $10 million option bonus payment in McNabb's deal.

...

In McNabb's case, the Redskins paid their quarterback $3.75 million in 2010 for the right to pay him $12.5 million in 2011 and control his rights.

If the Redskins cut him after the year or trade him, they are on the hook for only the $3.75 million while McNabb has his football freedom.

Are you saying that he will not be on the team that trades for him's roster on day one?The contract and bonus makes him untradeable - and teams know that he will be released anyway. I'm sure McNabb isn't going to do the Redskins any favors by waving the roster bonus so that they can trade him.

 

[shader]

I've never once thought "wow that QB has a wristband on...what an idiot".

We simple-minded fans care only about results Donovan.

 

[dgreen]

I just don't get all the hate for McNabb. Get the impression he is pretty down to earth, and he has had a pretty decent career. I can understand Eagle fan frustration, but the comments towards McNabb feel more like personal attacks rather than professional criticism.

Are you assuming the report is false? If it's true, how is this a "personal attack" and "hate for McNabb"?

No I am not making any assumptions about this particular report. It comes comes on the heals of Hopkins ridiculous comments, and what seems like a theme when it comes to McNabb. :whoosh:

Oh, so your comment belongs in that thread? I'm just not sure what your comment has to do with this thread.

 

[dgreen]

Here's more:

"During the season, at some point, not sure when, Shanahan asked McNabb to wear a wristband with the plays on it," Bishop began. "Tons of quarterbacks do it."

So when Shanahan actually asked McNabb to do it initially, he said 'Look. I can't do this.'" Bishop continued. "It's bad for my image. So McNabb thought it was bad for his image to have a wristband with the plays on it. He said it made it look like he wasn't familiar with the playbook, made him look stupid. That's what he thought."

"And the coach is like, 'What are you talking about?'" Bickel jumped in. "Tom Brady wears a wristband. Drew Brees wears a wristband."

"And Kyle [shanahan] is saying, 'Look, it's better for you," Bishop continued. "It helps you. It doesn't mean you're stupid. It doesn't mean you don't know the plays. Hall of Famers wear wristbands. But he said, 'No.'"

A ton of outrage follows, until Bishop reveals the second part of the story.

"So they're having this power lunch, power dinner at the Super Bowl with Fletcher Smith (McNabb's agent), Bruce Allen, Mike Shanahan and Dan Snyder. At some point, this topic comes up," he said.

"At that point, when Snyder heard that, Snyder apparently went ballistic and said, 'Are you effing kidding me?' Why did I hire you as the head coach? I'm paying you $7 million a year to be the head coach, and you can't get your guy to wear a wristband? Are you serious? If he's on the team next year, you're making him wear the wristband," he said.

Bishop said Shanahan and Snyder then began arguing, and Smith and Allen "didn't know what to do." Again, take this for what you will, but the whole thing is so Redskins if you think about it.

Curious why the Washington Post is staying away from this. This type of thing seems to be right up the Sports Bog's alley. Steinberg has transcribed radio show discussions a lot on his blog, but hasn't mentioned anything about this.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Here's more:

"During the season, at some point, not sure when, Shanahan asked McNabb to wear a wristband with the plays on it," Bishop began. "Tons of quarterbacks do it."

So when Shanahan actually asked McNabb to do it initially, he said 'Look. I can't do this.'" Bishop continued. "It's bad for my image. So McNabb thought it was bad for his image to have a wristband with the plays on it. He said it made it look like he wasn't familiar with the playbook, made him look stupid. That's what he thought."

"And the coach is like, 'What are you talking about?'" Bickel jumped in. "Tom Brady wears a wristband. Drew Brees wears a wristband."

"And Kyle [shanahan] is saying, 'Look, it's better for you," Bishop continued. "It helps you. It doesn't mean you're stupid. It doesn't mean you don't know the plays. Hall of Famers wear wristbands. But he said, 'No.'"

A ton of outrage follows, until Bishop reveals the second part of the story.

"So they're having this power lunch, power dinner at the Super Bowl with Fletcher Smith (McNabb's agent), Bruce Allen, Mike Shanahan and Dan Snyder. At some point, this topic comes up," he said.

"At that point, when Snyder heard that, Snyder apparently went ballistic and said, 'Are you effing kidding me?' Why did I hire you as the head coach? I'm paying you $7 million a year to be the head coach, and you can't get your guy to wear a wristband? Are you serious? If he's on the team next year, you're making him wear the wristband," he said.

Bishop said Shanahan and Snyder then began arguing, and Smith and Allen "didn't know what to do." Again, take this for what you will, but the whole thing is so Redskins if you think about it.

Curious why the Washington Post is staying away from this. This type of thing seems to be right up the Sports Bog's alley. Steinberg has transcribed radio show discussions a lot on his blog, but hasn't mentioned anything about this.

If this is true, I'm going to have to side with Snyder on this one.

 

[fatness]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

Or if it happened at all. There's been more than one smear already in the past year from unnamed sources in the Redskin front office, and this would be in keeping with that practice. I figure someone in the front office is pissed off that McNabb's been training with Cardinals' players in AZ.Chris Russell was the beat guy reporting this on ESPN980 early this afternoon, and both he and Kevin Sheehan said how physically beaten up McNabb looked at the Tuesday shows he hosted during the season. "Could barely sit down at the table and get back up" was how Sheehan described it.

 

[fatness]

Curious why the Washington Post is staying away from this. This type of thing seems to be right up the Sports Bog's alley. Steinberg has transcribed radio show discussions a lot on his blog, but hasn't mentioned anything about this.

I'd assume they're checking the story out with other sources. The Washington Examiner hasn't said anything about it yet, and John Keim with the Examiner is usually all over Skins news.

 

[fatness]

There's no way they can trade him with the roster bonus and salary he's due. He'll be released.

He's not due one cent unless he is on the roster for game 1, basically.

Which means if he's still on the roster the day before game 1, they cut him, and other teams can sign him for whatever they negotiate.I think the Redskins will try to work out a trade for McNabb, will likely ask too much in trade (as they did for Haynesworth), will get no takers, and McNabb will get cut at the last minute unless he wants to buy his way out earlier.

 

[Sidewinder16]

The contract and bonus makes him untradeable - and teams know that he will be released anyway. I'm sure McNabb isn't going to do the Redskins any favors by waving the roster bonus so that they can trade him.

Not this contract and bonus.

Nothing is straightforward about Donovan McNabb these days. It turns out the $40 million he is supposed to be guaranteed in his new contract could turn out to be a mere $3.5 million.

McNabb's agent, Fletcher Smith, clarified some of the details of McNabb's deal Tuesday. He says while the contract is worded so that it has "$40 million in guarantees," the Redskins do have an option to cut McNabb at the end of the season with no further money due.

McNabb receives a $3.5 million bonus this year as part of the new agreement, but the rest of the five-year, $78 million package would come to naught if the team decides to cut ties.

Roster bonuses are conditional. The condition being the player has to be on the roster of the team he signed the contract with. If McNabb is not on the Redskins roster, he doesn't get a roster bonus. From anyone.

 

[Mario Kart]

Who? Who does not want to wear the wristband?

 

[massraider]

The contract and bonus makes him untradeable - and teams know that he will be released anyway. I'm sure McNabb isn't going to do the Redskins any favors by waving the roster bonus so that they can trade him.

Not this contract and bonus.

Nothing is straightforward about Donovan McNabb these days. It turns out the $40 million he is supposed to be guaranteed in his new contract could turn out to be a mere $3.5 million.

McNabb's agent, Fletcher Smith, clarified some of the details of McNabb's deal Tuesday. He says while the contract is worded so that it has "$40 million in guarantees," the Redskins do have an option to cut McNabb at the end of the season with no further money due.

McNabb receives a $3.5 million bonus this year as part of the new agreement, but the rest of the five-year, $78 million package would come to naught if the team decides to cut ties.

Roster bonuses are conditional. The condition being the player has to be on the roster of the team he signed the contract with. If McNabb is not on the Redskins roster, he doesn't get a roster bonus. From anyone.

I am not a contract expert, but I am pretty sure what you are saying is incorrect.

 

[massraider]

I just don't get all the hate for McNabb.

I do. And I've been a fan since Syracuse, and always thought he never got the benefit of the doubt in Philly. But he is not a big game pitcher. He doesn't make the plays that championship QBs make. Several games when he got the yips, in big games. I don't know what else to call what he was doing, skipping the ball 3 yards in front of receivers. Tossing cookies in the big game. I always felt like he got a raw deal, PR-wise, when he went to Philly. But after a while, it started feeling like McNabb apologists (myself included) were using the "We want Ricky" crap to excuse why he wasn't appreciated in Philly. Then Terrell Owens came along, about as complete a tool as God has ever conceived, and made him even more sympathetic. Well, every QB that comes along and looks great in that offense really makes me wonder if McNabb was just the guy that held the job the longest.

 

[dgreen]

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

Or if it happened at all.

I have little doubt that it happened. The Junkies info came from two independent sources. Without ever mentioning it to Lavar, Lavar, on his own, checked with some of his sources after the Junkies broke the rumor this morning. Those sources confirmed it. Additionally, an ex-Eagle who does a radio show in Philly said there were times in Philly that McNabb refused to wear one.

 

[dgreen]

There's no way they can trade him with the roster bonus and salary he's due. He'll be released.

He's not due one cent unless he is on the roster for game 1, basically.

Which means if he's still on the roster the day before game 1, they cut him, and other teams can sign him for whatever they negotiate.

Other than Philly (who obviously wouldn't sign him), what teams could he join in September and start for in 2011?

 

[Amused to Death]

I just don't get all the hate for McNabb. Get the impression he is pretty down to earth, and he has had a pretty decent career. I can understand Eagle fan frustration, but the comments towards McNabb feel more like personal attacks rather than professional criticism.

I know he appears very likable and media savvy, but I don't remember too many of his teammates coming to his defense either in the TO debacle or during all the trade rumors on his way out of Philly. Brian Westbrook stood up for him, but other then that no one seemed to mind him leaving. Celek, DJax, Trotter...none of the them gave him a vote of confidence when given the chance. Even former players like Freddie Mitchel & Reggie Brown had public feuds with him. Hank Frahley and Jon Runyon threw him under the bus.Then he got traded to Washington and some thought Shannahan was going to help him prove his doubters wrong. But it only took him half a season to have a public dispute with McNabb. There's a pattern developing that maybe Donnie isn't the best teammate in the locker room. Public perception isn't always fact.

 

[jojoh07]

one thing is for sure , Mcnabb will always be the Victim .

 

[Kleck]

Reports are that a wrist ban would've smeared his fake tan.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Roster bonuses are conditional. The condition being the player has to be on the roster of the team he signed the contract with. If McNabb is not on the Redskins roster, he doesn't get a roster bonus. From anyone.

I am not a contract expert, but I am pretty sure what you are saying is incorrect.

I'd love to see evidence to the contrary. I've been looking and can't find it.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I just don't get all the hate for McNabb.

I do. And I've been a fan since Syracuse, and always thought he never got the benefit of the doubt in Philly. But he is not a big game pitcher. He doesn't make the plays that championship QBs make. Several games when he got the yips, in big games. I don't know what else to call what he was doing, skipping the ball 3 yards in front of receivers. Tossing cookies in the big game. I always felt like he got a raw deal, PR-wise, when he went to Philly. But after a while, it started feeling like McNabb apologists (myself included) were using the "We want Ricky" crap to excuse why he wasn't appreciated in Philly. Then Terrell Owens came along, about as complete a tool as God has ever conceived, and made him even more sympathetic. Well, every QB that comes along and looks great in that offense really makes me wonder if McNabb was just the guy that held the job the longest.

I guess that 4th and 33 was all the receiver.

Sounds like a smear campaign, but on the other hand this issue may have been behind his one game benching last season?

Yeah, it would be interesting to know if this refusal happened before or after the Detroit game.

Or if it happened at all.

I have little doubt that it happened. The Junkies info came from two independent sources. Without ever mentioning it to Lavar, Lavar, on his own, checked with some of his sources after the Junkies broke the rumor this morning. Those sources confirmed it. Additionally, an ex-Eagle who does a radio show in Philly said there were times in Philly that McNabb refused to wear one.

Well, that settles it then. If guys on the radio are saying it, then it has to be true.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Well, that settles it then. If guys on the radio are saying it, then it has to be true.

Ignore it if you want, but it's not just radio guys putting their name behind it now.FWIW, Kelli Johnson reported last night that sources within the organization are refuting the claims. But I'm sure that can't be true. After all, it's just some chick on the internet that is saying it.

To add to everything else, Eagles beat writer Jeff McLane made these tweets last night:

This whole McNabb wristband thing is amusing to me. A few years ago I did a story about Reid's playmenu and how it corresponds to the qb's..

... Wristband and asked Don why he didn't wear one and he said it was because he sweated too much and the band would sop with his sweat and

... that affected his throwing even though qbs wear em on the arm opposite their throwing arms. Well, just thought I'd toss that out there.

I don't have an opinion of Don one way or the other but the #Eagles' offensive playbook is huge. Must have been hard to remember EVERY play.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I guess that 4th and 33 was all the receiver.

Well it was 4th and 26 and the catch by Fred Ex was outstanding. He was in full stride, had to turn all the way around, jump up, catch it and then tuck it knowing he was gonna get hit by two guys. Say what you will about Freddy but that was a fantastic catch.

 

[Ghost Rider]

McNabb is a joke. As has been pointed out, tons of quarterbacks wear wristbands. His refusal to wear one is laughable.

 

[unckeyherb]

This is interesting to me. From what I understand the Birds offense is not vanilla at all and is actually very complicated with a lot of variations resulting in waaay more plays than a typical offense. Seems strange that the guy could know Andy Reid's play book inside out but Rat Face Jr's play book gave him so much trouble that he needed to wear a wristband with the plays on it.

 

[dgreen]

Well, that settles it then. If guys on the radio are saying it, then it has to be true.

Ignore it if you want, but it's not just radio guys putting their name behind it now.FWIW, Kelli Johnson reported last night that sources within the organization are refuting the claims. But I'm sure that can't be true. After all, it's just some chick on the internet that is saying it.

Sounds like we have Kellie Johnson and Rich Tandler, who both work for CSN on different sides. Brian Mitchell on 106.7 (same as The Junkies and Lavar) said he talked to Donovan and he denied it. Chris Russell, who used to work for 106.7 and now works for 980 (owned by Dan Snyder, for the record), said:

Talked to 5 people that are close enough to know about McNabb refusing to wear a play-calling wrist band. All say never saw it/ no knowledge....FWIW, Donovan McNabb wishes not to speak 4 right now on the Hopkins matter or the wristband allegations. Not much needs 2 be said.

Not a denial, but some evidence against it.

To add to everything else, Eagles beat writer Jeff McLane made these tweets last night:

This whole McNabb wristband thing is amusing to me. A few years ago I did a story about Reid's playmenu and how it corresponds to the qb's..

... Wristband and asked Don why he didn't wear one and he said it was because he sweated too much and the band would sop with his sweat and

... that affected his throwing even though qbs wear em on the arm opposite their throwing arms. Well, just thought I'd toss that out there.

I don't have an opinion of Don one way or the other but the #Eagles' offensive playbook is huge. Must have been hard to remember EVERY play.

 

[dgreen]

This is interesting to me. From what I understand the Birds offense is not vanilla at all and is actually very complicated with a lot of variations resulting in waaay more plays than a typical offense. Seems strange that the guy could know Andy Reid's play book inside out but Rat Face Jr's play book gave him so much trouble that he needed to wear a wristband with the plays on it.

He had slightly more time in Reid's offense than Shanahan's.One thing I think all of this (and other stories over years) shows is that McNabb is one heck of an athlete and a great physically gifted QB. For someone to have that much success despite having such a lack of understanding is pretty remarkable.

 

[dgreen]

Over at Extremeskins, the Redskins official MB, there's apparently a poster who has sources. It seems that many people over there trust his nuggets and I guess he's been right before.

He claims the request was during the week prior to the Detroit game. They wanted him to wear the wristband in Detroit because the coaches believed Donovan had been struggling with the plays and getting in and out of the huddle. They also told Rex that week to be ready.

If you remember, Detroit was when McNabb was benched down one score and about 2 minutes remaining. It then led to a strange string of explanations from Mike Shanahan, including talk of not knowing the offense, not being good at the 2-minute drill, and a cardiovascular issue. It also led to the Shanahans claiming they told Donovan it was a possibility that Rex would play against Detroit and Donovan said they never told him that.

 

[unckeyherb]

This is interesting to me. From what I understand the Birds offense is not vanilla at all and is actually very complicated with a lot of variations resulting in waaay more plays than a typical offense. Seems strange that the guy could know Andy Reid's play book inside out but Rat Face Jr's play book gave him so much trouble that he needed to wear a wristband with the plays on it.

He had slightly more time in Reid's offense than Shanahan's.One thing I think all of this (and other stories over years) shows is that McNabb is one heck of an athlete and a great physically gifted QB. For someone to have that much success despite having such a lack of understanding is pretty remarkable.

Not sure what you mean by the bolded. Yeah, he spent more time in Reid's offense, but its not like it took him a decade to learn it; the guy was making pro-bowls and winning playoffs while running that offense in his first year as a starter. You're not suggesting that Shanahan's offense is somehow more complicated than Reid's right? I also think that for someone to have as much consistent success as he had here in Philly, its pretty much a non-starter to the argument that he has little understanding of the game.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Well, that settles it then. If guys on the radio are saying it, then it has to be true.

Ignore it if you want, but it's not just radio guys putting their name behind it now.FWIW, Kelli Johnson reported last night that sources within the organization are refuting the claims. But I'm sure that can't be true. After all, it's just some chick on the internet that is saying it.

To add to everything else, Eagles beat writer Jeff McLane made these tweets last night:

This whole McNabb wristband thing is amusing to me. A few years ago I did a story about Reid's playmenu and how it corresponds to the qb's..

... Wristband and asked Don why he didn't wear one and he said it was because he sweated too much and the band would sop with his sweat and

... that affected his throwing even though qbs wear em on the arm opposite their throwing arms. Well, just thought I'd toss that out there.

I don't have an opinion of Don one way or the other but the #Eagles' offensive playbook is huge. Must have been hard to remember EVERY play.

I'm not ignoring it at all. I was commenting on how ######ed it is to care about it all, and that most people on this board love to hate the guy. I could really give two ####s about it. He's a better QB than Alex Smith (since you appear to be a Niners fan) and Rex Grossman (who I hope dgreen enjoys under center next year), but it's whatever. Hate the guy if you want.

 

[dgreen]

This is interesting to me. From what I understand the Birds offense is not vanilla at all and is actually very complicated with a lot of variations resulting in waaay more plays than a typical offense. Seems strange that the guy could know Andy Reid's play book inside out but Rat Face Jr's play book gave him so much trouble that he needed to wear a wristband with the plays on it.

He had slightly more time in Reid's offense than Shanahan's.One thing I think all of this (and other stories over years) shows is that McNabb is one heck of an athlete and a great physically gifted QB. For someone to have that much success despite having such a lack of understanding is pretty remarkable.

Not sure what you mean by the bolded. Yeah, he spent more time in Reid's offense, but its not like it took him a decade to learn it; the guy was making pro-bowls and winning playoffs while running that offense in his first year as a starter. You're not suggesting that Shanahan's offense is somehow more complicated than Reid's right?

I have no idea whose offense is more complicated nor do I care. What I do know is McNabb hasn't had as much time with Shanahan's offense as he did with Reid's at the point of "his first year as a starter" as you mention. McNabb's first year as a starter in DC was after about 5 months of studying the offense and his first year as a starter in Philly was more like 15 months of studying that offense. It also happened to be when McNabb was in much better physical condition due to his age.I believe if McNabb and the Redskins hadn't ruined their relationship, he would have been much better in 2011 than he was in 2010.

 

[Amused to Death]

one thing is for sure , Mcnabb will always be the Victim .

Funny how it always seems that way isn't it? First it was how Philly fans and media just didn't appreciate him. Then he goes to Washington and it took less then half a season for the drama to start.I have faith though that all of his Redskin teammates will rush to his defense.