Ryan Torain (1 Viewer)

[Mustang Man]

If you got room and he is on the WW in your league I would scoop this guy up. With no rb really looking great and separating themselves from the pack in Denver. If Torrain comes back after the week 8 bye (Which is the time table) I would think by the time week 10-11 rolls around he will be the starter and put up some good numbers for the stretch run. Just an FYI. I have stashed him on a couple of rosters and can't wait to see if I get lucky.

He looked pretty good in the limited pre-season action so he could surprise.

Any thoughts on this from others.

 

[BaBastage]

A fair amount of discussion already exists in This Thead, and this thread.

(Sometimes you need to hit 'next page' on the search function.)

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Uh oh... the "search function" crew is already attacking you.

I agree... I already picked Torain up weeks ago, and stashed him on IR.

 

[rockalum]

wow. somehow i am on this site every day, looking in this forum and i have never heard of ryan torain. thanks for the headsup.

 

[Mustang Man]

wow. somehow i am on this site every day, looking in this forum and i have never heard of ryan torain. thanks for the headsup.

You are welcome

 

[Ballstein]

PLEASE give him A break, he just got a word of this Denver serial number 123128923ab RB from A secret Bronco insider. Yeah, he's the biggest RB to come out since Walter Payton, but he hasnt played A game. Most of the people talking about him, dont know who he is, where he played, or have any idea he was injury prone. I think that makes up 98 percent of people hyping him. I gotta go so I can swindle him out from another owner, Do you think I could give him LT, B.MARSHALL, and A.Peterson? I hope he takes it!!

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

PLEASE give him A break, he just got a word of this Denver serial number 123128923ab RB from A secret Bronco insider. Yeah, he's the biggest RB to come out since Walter Payton, but he hasnt played A game. Most of the people talking about him, dont know who he is, where he played, or have any idea he was injury prone. I think that makes up 98 percent of people hyping him. I gotta go so I can swindle him out from another owner, Do you think I could give him LT, B.MARSHALL, and A.Peterson? I hope he takes it!!

Or maybe some people just need some depth, or a breakout candidate at the Running back spot, and are hoping for the best? I think maybe you take this stuff a little too seriously.

 

[mozzy84]

thinking of dropping perry for him tonight (tight rosters though, only 4 spots)

 

[Mustang Man]

PLEASE give him A break, he just got a word of this Denver serial number 123128923ab RB from A secret Bronco insider. Yeah, he's the biggest RB to come out since Walter Payton, but he hasnt played A game. Most of the people talking about him, dont know who he is, where he played, or have any idea he was injury prone. I think that makes up 98 percent of people hyping him. I gotta go so I can swindle him out from another owner, Do you think I could give him LT, B.MARSHALL, and A.Peterson? I hope he takes it!!

Or maybe some people just need some depth, or a breakout candidate at the Running back spot, and are hoping for the best? I think maybe you take this stuff a little too seriously.

It is not worth it Widow Maker just ignore

 

[Mustang Man]

thinking of dropping perry for him tonight (tight rosters though, only 4 spots)

That's a questionable move but it is not like Perry is lighting it up and if he fumbles again that would make 6 on the year and he could start to lose playing time. How are you at the rb position if you are light I would hold on to Perry but if you do not count on him much then maybe take the chance cause in 1-3 weeks he will be the hot pickup if available in your league.

 

[burd]

my RB depth seems to be getting weaker by the minute. assuming Torrain comes back w/ no problems, what type of stats are we talking about? i mean, Selvin hasn't been very durable, Pittman at this stage in career is an accomplished journeyman w/ relatively few miles on him given his age. Does Torrain leap to #2 on the depth chart, does he ursurp Selvin? What do the homers hear out in Denver?

 

[mozzy84]

thinking of dropping perry for him tonight (tight rosters though, only 4 spots)

That's a questionable move but it is not like Perry is lighting it up and if he fumbles again that would make 6 on the year and he could start to lose playing time. How are you at the rb position if you are light I would hold on to Perry but if you do not count on him much then maybe take the chance cause in 1-3 weeks he will be the hot pickup if available in your league.

forte, mcghee, t. jones (I just dont see perry seeing my starting lineup again and my other guys arnt that great!). We only have pickups every two weeks and I'm 4-1 so I probably wont have a shot at him next pickup night.

 

[CrossEyed]

thinking of dropping perry for him tonight (tight rosters though, only 4 spots)

That's a questionable move but it is not like Perry is lighting it up and if he fumbles again that would make 6 on the year and he could start to lose playing time. How are you at the rb position if you are light I would hold on to Perry but if you do not count on him much then maybe take the chance cause in 1-3 weeks he will be the hot pickup if available in your league.

Perry has already started to lose touches to Benson and he's only been there for one week. I don't see much upside with Perry at this point.

 

[Mustang Man]

thinking of dropping perry for him tonight (tight rosters though, only 4 spots)

That's a questionable move but it is not like Perry is lighting it up and if he fumbles again that would make 6 on the year and he could start to lose playing time. How are you at the rb position if you are light I would hold on to Perry but if you do not count on him much then maybe take the chance cause in 1-3 weeks he will be the hot pickup if available in your league.

Perry has already started to lose touches to Benson and he's only been there for one week. I don't see much upside with Perry at this point.

True but I do not see Benson ever taking the job. Perry had a td last week taken from him (about a 15yarder) that was a bs holding penalty that could be called on any play. I think he still has some value but if he will never see your starting lineup I would take a gamble on Torain because his upside is higher then Perry . I mean if he gets the gig (which I think he would have by now if he was not injured) he could be a good fill in start ( due to injury from one of your starters ) to a flex position start low end #2.

 

[[scooter]]

Pittman.

 

[Maven]

Pittman.

You'd think...but did you know Torain is the same weight, a tad taller, younger, faster and has fresh legs...not to mention Cutler and the coaching staff love him?

 

[Ballstein]

PLEASE give him A break, he just got a word of this Denver serial number 123128923ab RB from A secret Bronco insider. Yeah, he's the biggest RB to come out since Walter Payton, but he hasnt played A game. Most of the people talking about him, dont know who he is, where he played, or have any idea he was injury prone. I think that makes up 98 percent of people hyping him. I gotta go so I can swindle him out from another owner, Do you think I could give him LT, B.MARSHALL, and A.Peterson? I hope he takes it!!

Or maybe some people just need some depth, or a breakout candidate at the Running back spot, and are hoping for the best? I think maybe you take this stuff a little too seriously.

It is not worth it Widow Maker just ignore

Ignore and study the facts. Shannahan loves him. He also has said that about alot of his players, including Selvin. Pick him up if you want, I just have never seen A FF football player with so much hype and little facts to back up the hype. Convince me.

 

[[scooter]]

Pittman.

You'd think...but did you know Torain is the same weight, a tad taller, younger, faster and has fresh legs

There are probably hundreds of men in this world who fit those same descriptions. That doesn't make them better than Pittman, either.

 

[crush304]

Pittman.

You'd think...but did you know Torain is the same weight, a tad taller, younger, faster and has fresh legs

There are probably hundreds of men in this world who fit those same descriptions. That doesn't make them better than Pittman, either.

Pittman was stuck working at fullback in training camp until Torain got hurt.

 

[[scooter]]

Pittman.

You'd think...but did you know Torain is the same weight, a tad taller, younger, faster and has fresh legs

There are probably hundreds of men in this world who fit those same descriptions. That doesn't make them better than Pittman, either.

Pittman was stuck working at fullback in training camp until Torain got hurt.

See: Reuben Droughns.

 

[SSOG]

my RB depth seems to be getting weaker by the minute. assuming Torrain comes back w/ no problems, what type of stats are we talking about? i mean, Selvin hasn't been very durable, Pittman at this stage in career is an accomplished journeyman w/ relatively few miles on him given his age. Does Torrain leap to #2 on the depth chart, does he ursurp Selvin? What do the homers hear out in Denver?

If Torain hadn't gotten injured, he probably would have entered the season as the #1 back. Upside? 15-20 touches a game in Denver.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I think he's a nice guy to stash away if you have deep rosters. I don't think Shanihan is opposed to using a primary back, I just think he's doesn't mind a RBBC if that's how the RB competition shakes out...and that's how it's shaken out the past few years.

Young has managed a pretty nice ypc so far. If a RB gets 20+ touches in that system, I think he's got top 10 potential. The question is if Torain is talented enough and has had enough practice prior to his injury to come in and push Young and Pittman out of the lineup.

 

[bonesman]

PLEASE give him A break, he just got a word of this Denver serial number 123128923ab RB from A secret Bronco insider. Yeah, he's the biggest RB to come out since Walter Payton, but he hasnt played A game. Most of the people talking about him, dont know who he is, where he played, or have any idea he was injury prone. I think that makes up 98 percent of people hyping him. I gotta go so I can swindle him out from another owner, Do you think I could give him LT, B.MARSHALL, and A.Peterson? I hope he takes it!!

Or maybe some people just need some depth, or a breakout candidate at the Running back spot, and are hoping for the best? I think maybe you take this stuff a little too seriously.

It is not worth it Widow Maker just ignore

Ha... that post marked the final straw for me w/ that dude... he's officially ignored now.

 

[glumpy]

thinking of dropping perry for him tonight (tight rosters though, only 4 spots)

Kind of a two step drop but that's exactly what I did. Hoping to make the playoffs and have a little lightning in a bottle when I get there...

 

[Texican]

I like Torain as much as the next guy, but this is a full blown RBBC. The parts may change somewhat once Torain is playing, but it is what it is. Unless someone gets injured, I just don't see this year as the year for Torain. Sure he could have some good games, but it will be a dice roll with that RBBC.

Just my opinion....

 

[Tanner9919]

If you got room and he is on the WW in your league I would scoop this guy up. With no rb really looking great and separating themselves from the pack in Denver. If Torrain comes back after the week 8 bye (Which is the time table) I would think by the time week 10-11 rolls around he will be the starter and put up some good numbers for the stretch run. Just an FYI. I have stashed him on a couple of rosters and can't wait to see if I get lucky.

He looked pretty good in the limited pre-season action so he could surprise.

Any thoughts on this from others.

for Pete's sake, we don't need yet another Torain thread...

please shut this thread down...

:IBTL:

 

[Steel Town]

It is probably foolish to predict how productive Torrain would be if healthy. I think what is important for the discussion is that NO Denver rb has established himself at this point. Pittman has been a good short yardage guy, Young and Hall have been average at best. To me that would indicate that when Torrain is healthy, he should get some carries. What he does with those carries should dictate how many more carries he gets. Owners looking to strike gold on Torrain can only be enthusiastic about the fact that Young/Hall/Pittman have not shown signs of stardom.

....So you're saying he has a chance....(Dumb and Dumber reference)

 

[BaBastage]

Uh oh... the "search function" crew is already attacking you. I agree... I already picked Torain up weeks ago, and stashed him on IR.

I wasn't attacking. But I also wasn't going to summarize the other threads for the op. tia.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I think Torain is like a lottery ticket. Odds are that that he's just another piece of the RBBC, but there's a legitimate chance that he could take over as the main man down the stretch. I picked him up in one league as a hopeful insurance policy in case my rb's get hurt down the stretch.

He's definitely got value. For everyone completely writing him off, think about this -- Shanahan did not put him on IR despite the fact that he was sure to miss half of the season. You don't have to be Johnny Cochrane to figure out what this means -- Shanahan expects him to be a significant contributor once he's healthy.

The biggest downside with with Torain is that his value is limited even if he becomes the man and reaches max potential, because the trading deadline will have passed in just about every league and bye weeks will be over and done with.

 

[davearm]

I think Torain is like a lottery ticket. Odds are that that he's just another piece of the RBBC, but there's a legitimate chance that he could take over as the main man down the stretch. I picked him up in one league as a hopeful insurance policy in case my rb's get hurt down the stretch.He's definitely got value. For everyone completely writing him off, think about this -- Shanahan did not put him on IR despite the fact that he was sure to miss half of the season. You don't have to be Johnny Cochrane to figure out what this means -- Shanahan expects him to be a significant contributor once he's healthy. The biggest downside with with Torain is that his value is limited even if he becomes the man and reaches max potential, because the trading deadline will have passed in just about every league and bye weeks will be over and done with.

A lottery ticket is just how Torain should be viewed.Everyone carps about Shanahan and how his deployment of his RBs seems specifically designed to mess with FFers, but in the end I think his preference is to have a workhorse RB that gets 70% of the carries. He only goes into RBBC mode when he doesn't have a guy talented and durable enough to carry the load.So the first question is, is Torain talented and durable enough to carry the load? It's certainly possible, but it's something that remains to be seen. Shanny and the Broncos seemed to be saying a lot of good things about him before he got hurt.The second question is, can he get healthy and up to speed with all of his assignments in time to assume the lead dog role yet this season? That's also uncertain, but as Manley mentions, the fact that he wasn't IR'ed must be viewed as a positive sign.I'm trying to do some wheeling and dealing to open a roster spot to grab Torain, but if I can't pull something off, I won't be too worried about it.

 

[glumpy]

Pittman.

You'd think...but did you know Torain is the same weight, a tad taller, younger, faster and has fresh legs

There are probably hundreds of men in this world who fit those same descriptions. That doesn't make them better than Pittman, either.

Pittman was stuck working at fullback in training camp until Torain got hurt.

See: Reuben Droughns.

You've been a one horse carriage all the way through these discussions I think--and it makes a whole lot of sense given the situation in Denver. Pittman immediately has this week to really shine with Young out. At the same time, I've always appreciated SSOG's perceptions of the Denver game and Shanahan's shenanigans--so I've been watching that situation for a few weeks...My league has an IR slot that gives 4 weeks to see what shakes out. With that in mind, I picked up Torain this week, then benched him in that slot with Pittman being the cover. Hopefully--one way or the other--they'll settle on one workhorse to carry the team through the playoffs by the time I have to choose after the week 9 games!

A lottery ticket is just how Torain should be viewed.

Yup! And they'll both sit comfortably on my bench until we know...

 

[Hugonel]

PLEASE give him A break, he just got a word of this Denver serial number 123128923ab RB from A secret Bronco insider. Yeah, he's the biggest RB to come out since Walter Payton, but he hasnt played A game. Most of the people talking about him, dont know who he is, where he played, or have any idea he was injury prone. I think that makes up 98 percent of people hyping him. I gotta go so I can swindle him out from another owner, Do you think I could give him LT, B.MARSHALL, and A.Peterson? I hope he takes it!!

Ironically, so often the guy posting abuse is the one deserving of it.

 

[SierraKiloBravo]

I dropped Rudi Johnson for him a week or so ago. I've got some depth at RB, but I figured that Torain's Potential > Rudi's Here and Now.

 

[gbill2004]

Who is better as my 5th RB - Torain or Kevin Smith?

 

[EFD]

Who is better as my 5th RB - Torain or Kevin Smith?

I think it depends. I think the proper way to look at is is "who is better as your 5th RB given your particular situation". In other words, I would bet that Smith outpoints Torain from this point forward, but Torain may outpoint Smith from say week 10 onward. So if your team is 5-0 and looking good for a playoff spot, and you're very unlikely to ever start Smith, then it's Torain. If you'll likely be leaning on Smith for points between now and week 10, then it's Smith.

 

[jerseydevil20]

Who is better as my 5th RB - Torain or Kevin Smith?

If you're asking in regards to the team in your sig and it's redraft, I would get Torain. You have plenty of depth at RB. Smith has not been remarkable and there are the Rudi and QB factors. Torain, on the other hand, could become a point producer on a prolific offensive team. No brainer to me.

 

[BaBastage]

Who is better as my 5th RB - Torain or Kevin Smith?

I think it depends. I think the proper way to look at is is "who is better as your 5th RB given your particular situation". In other words, I would bet that Smith outpoints Torain from this point forward, but Torain may outpoint Smith from say week 10 onward. So if your team is 5-0 and looking good for a playoff spot, and you're very unlikely to ever start Smith, then it's Torain. If you'll likely be leaning on Smith for points between now and week 10, then it's Smith.

Exactly. I've got Gore, Slaton, McFadden, and Michael Bush. It's unlikely that I'm going to find anything on the ww to crack my starting lineup, so what's the harm in stashing him on my IR for a couple of weeks?It's all about risk/reward. Keep the risk low, take a flyer, and see what happens. But there's no way I'd use up a roster spot on the longshot that he blows up.eta: I'm 4-1, ahead in points, and have the luxury to start looking at the playoff run. Hence stashing a guy that might perform down the stretch without sacrificing the near future makes sense to me.

 

[[scooter]]

Pittman.

so farJust 4 more yards please.....

 

[Ballstein]

PLEASE give him A break, he just got a word of this Denver serial number 123128923ab RB from A secret Bronco insider. Yeah, he's the biggest RB to come out since Walter Payton, but he hasnt played A game. Most of the people talking about him, dont know who he is, where he played, or have any idea he was injury prone. I think that makes up 98 percent of people hyping him. I gotta go so I can swindle him out from another owner, Do you think I could give him LT, B.MARSHALL, and A.Peterson? I hope he takes it!!

Or maybe some people just need some depth, or a breakout candidate at the Running back spot, and are hoping for the best? I think maybe you take this stuff a little too seriously.

It is not worth it Widow Maker just ignore

Ha... that post marked the final straw for me w/ that dude... he's officially ignored now.

why dont you stay on topic and offer some insight about torain instead of offering ZERO to the topic.