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not a Saints homer, but its looking more and more like they simply overachieved last season. Bush looks like Eric Metcalf v2.0..they look out of sync..but in the end, its probably more a matter of opposing teams have caught up to their gameplan(s)..they simply snuck up on teams last season. Now, opposing defenses have studied the Saints offense during the off-season, and they're finding ways of stopping them.expect a 7-9 ,6-10 season from N.O. remember, they won what, 2 games in 2005? they most defnitely overachieved last season...now they're going to come back down to earth a bit.and, teams are learning that you can slap the ball down against a short QB like Drew Brees.I watched the Indy game last week and was very surprised at how NO's offense was shut down. I didn't watch much of this week's game, but again it looks like the Saints got hosed. What's going on in NO homers? Where do you point the finger to explain the struggles of the first two weeks?
Deuce fumbled a few times today, and was a little limited after being poked in the eye. But yes, Deuce is a better RB than Bush. And it isn't close.
Yeah, Deuce didn't exactly set the world on fire today, but when they put him in, he moved the ball. A lot of running is getting in a rhythm...if they gave him three...four series in a row, I wonder how'd do. And it's not like you couldn't use Reggie's home-run play ability in collaboration with it...but McAllister as the 20-25 carries a game RB and Reggie as the all-purpose offensive player (receiver, change-of-pace back, returner) would seem the most obvious thing for this team.
They played just fine against the cover two last year, including two wins over Tampa. The last three games, the offense hasn't played well. Pinning it all on the cover two, however, might be a bit premature.The offensive line has been offensive. The WRs haven't caught the ball and Brees has been off. Not sure what the issue is, but the defense was supposed to be the weak part of this team. The offense is the real letdown so far.
Maybe the league just catches onto what he does and he's not capable of adjusting beyond that.In two stops in the NFL (Dallas, and NYG) he was a "boy genius" who later had his play-calling responsibilities pulled.
not a Saints homer, but its looking more and more like they simply overachieved last season. Bush looks like Eric Metcalf v2.0..they look out of sync..but in the end, its probably more a matter of opposing teams have caught up to their gameplan(s)..they simply snuck up on teams last season. Now, opposing defenses have studied the Saints offense during the off-season, and they're finding ways of stopping them.expect a 7-9 ,6-10 season from N.O. remember, they won what, 2 games in 2005? they most defnitely overachieved last season...now they're going to come back down to earth a bit.and, teams are learning that you can slap the ball down against a short QB like Drew Brees.I watched the Indy game last week and was very surprised at how NO's offense was shut down. I didn't watch much of this week's game, but again it looks like the Saints got hosed. What's going on in NO homers? Where do you point the finger to explain the struggles of the first two weeks?
One of the best post so far this season, I am also a little concerned about the way Brees is throwing the ball. somthing seems off, I hope his shoulder is holding up.
Probably their bad decision was not to get Meachem up and running ASAP once healthy, inserting him into the lineup as they did Colston last year, and quit screwing around with failures like D Henderson and pedestrian talents like L Moore and Patten. I think Meachem was the 2nd most talented WR in this draft and they s/b getting him in there rather than making him inactive each week. And yes, I know how the preseason went. He's a gamer. Get him in there!Fat girls likey ice creamy.
I have to agree. The D-line was solid against Cadillac. They just aren't getting to the QB. No sacks yet. You can disguise a weak secondary by having a tremendous pass rush. They aren't getting turnovers either. Everyone agrees the O-line is out of sorts. Brees is struggling. It's easy to say that they should run Deuce more but when you fall behind 21-0, a power running game is out of the question. The WR's have been MIA too. 3 drops last game - 1 for a TD - by Henderson! I have to think they miss the leadership of Joe Horn more than they let on. He was a gamer. He would have put it on his shoulders with the offense, if necessary.saintsfan said:
is the direct cause of this:
Until the offensive line starts playing o.k., keeps pressure off Brees and keeps the passing lanes clear Brees will not be effective and the whole offense will suffer. Brees can not handle pressure.
Homer here and the above are my thoughts exactly. The line, which was arguably the biggest reason for the Saints' offensive success last year, has been terrible. And yes, it's never pretty with the Saints. We'll probably get trounced on Monday, have the bye, and be completely forgotten until we upset Carolina in week 5. That would be a classic Saints right there.ETA: the playcalling has been way too cute, as well. There has been talk that they will simplify things on Monday.
This is somewhat incorrect. Brees is far from a mobile quarterback but he made quite a few plays last season because of his pocket presence. Something that he does not seem to have this year.The o-line is not protecting as well as they have done in the past, but they've been good enough to give Brees the opportunity to make plays, which he has not done.Gr00vus said:
It's a mystery because it isn't one phase that keeps breaking down. They put together a 90-something yard drive and then the kicker basically kicks the ball into Julius Peppers' head and they come away with zero points. They had a TD called back because an O-lineman lined up too far off the line. Brees hits Henderson on a deep pass and it bounces off of his hands and right into the defensive back's hands. This year 10 guys will do things right, one guy will do something wrong and when it goes wrong it goes very wrong and ends up in a turnover, sack, lost first down, etc. Line play (on both sides of the ball) is clearly a problem, but the strange part is that they have the same personnel. I keep hearing "opposing teams had an offseason to study film and have 'figured them out'". I think that's a BS excuse because they weren't doing anything that novel or creative last year that defensive coordinators hadn't seen before.
Yes Sean Peyton thought going into this year that he was the greatest coach in the history of the NFL. He's very Smug. And he thinks he can dial up anything. He reminds me very much of the OBC when he was at Washington. Also looks like that Ric Metcalf/Dave Megget 2 pick overall is. Just that. Metcalf/Megget. Should of traded down and locked up Aj Hawk. Atleast at this pace they'll lock up Glen Dorsey and maybe take there 6 yard avg down to 4.5Also there 2007 draft was terrible. Meachum sucks, I dont think he's been dressed yet. There 2nd pick Osama Young was 21 ranked CB and they take him in the 2nd rd. They trade up to get A. Pittman, he gets cut and they cut there 5th rd draft pick. Good scouting guysbenson_will_lead_the_way said:
If you watched the game you would have seen Bush make something out of nothing on almost every play. The blocking was ridiculously bad. I'm not sure what's going on with the OL as I don't follow the Saints, but it SUCKS this year, and that has a lot to do with the offensive woes. Bush was the best offensive player on the field for the Saints yesterday, rushing and receiving. Colston, Johnson, Copper, Moore all had a case of the dropsys. Stecker looked pretty decent on a couple plays, but went down easily on others, just inconsistent - but he has potential. That Pierre guy looked, well - bad.
It's about time. Given he's a pending FA and not going to be back, this team is 0-5 and going nowhere fast, no reason not to look at other options. I like Lance Moore quite a bit myself. Solid route runner and GOOD HANDS!!Said a couple weeks ago, look for Henderson to be an inactive sooner rather than later. The guy simply can't consistently catch the ball. After Stallworth's issues early in his career, why go through this again?
he is a possession receiver - period . . . the problem is that the Saints main speed guy (Henderson) has terrible hands . . .you start Moore?? fine, then you are dink and dunk city . . .
Meachem is the guy that doesnt know the offense - he got behind in training camp - and is probably 6th on the depth chart . . .
What mystery?They're the Saints, they're destined to suck. That's the way it always has been, and the way it always will be, no matter how much talent or coaching.There's no mystery here, they're just plain old cursed.
Do you remember Brian Westbrook when he entered the league. Not until last year which was his 6th year in the league did he become a good looking/between the tackles RB. Reggie is still a role player and needs a little more maturity. As you said, Meachem hasn't even dressed yet, so how in the world can he suck? How many 1st round receivers come into the league dominating? Your really jumping the gun here.Also looks like that Ric Metcalf/Dave Megget 2 pick overall is. Just that. Metcalf/Megget. Should of traded down and locked up Aj Hawk. Atleast at this pace they'll lock up Glen Dorsey and maybe take there 6 yard avg down to 4.5Also there 2007 draft was terrible. Meachum sucks, I dont think he's been dressed yet. There 2nd pick Osama Young was 21 ranked CB and they take him in the 2nd rd. They trade up to get A. Pittman, he gets cut and they cut there 5th rd draft pick. Good scouting guys
