Screw Shanahan! Now hes keeping the starting rb a secret ! typ (1 Viewer)

[DarkKnightsGuru]

(KFFL) Washington Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan indicated Saturday, Sept. 1, that he has settled on a starting running back for Week 1, but he is keeping it a secret. He said RBs Roy Helu Jr. and Evan Royster have made "tremendous progession" in pass protection, so the starter is believed to be one of the two.

I thought Afred Morris was going to start

 

[12punch]

how do you know he isn't?

also, who told you he was?

 

[whatadai]

He's going to sign Ryan Torain and Steve Slaton and hour before and then keep the starting RB a secret until 5 minutes before the snap and then name the starting RB as Darrel Young.

 

[HairySasquatch]

I have Morris stashed on my bench...but I'm starting to think it is going to be a wasted spot. Rat face is going to play this game all season and I will never be able to start a WAS rb with confidence. I will leave him on my bench and hope it clears up in the first few weeks or drop him for someone that emerges in a better situation.

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Listen,

Do you want to know a secret?

Do you promise not to tell?

Whoah, ohh, ohhh,

Closer,

Let me whisper in your ear.

Say the words you long to hear,

We are starting you!

 

[barista]

seriously? This is typical Shanny. If any of those RBs would get consistent carries they'd be draftable but they won't so they aren't. Unless you have deep 20 person+ rosters. Always a caveat.

 

[cracKer]

Maybe he believes that they're all capable of starting at this point, but not worthy. Maybe he believes that his starter isn't the guy who sits atop his depth chart in week one, might not even be on the roster at this point. Maybe he's doing everyone a favor

 

[kegger]

For the last few years I don't put any redskins running back on my roster.

I don't care how hot the pickup is, not worth the getting screwed over part.

(let some other idiots in your league play the shanny game)

 

[Shawn]

For the last few years I don't put any redskins running back on my roster.I don't care how hot the pickup is, not worth the getting screwed over part.(let some other idiots in your league play the shanny game)

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

 

[duaneok66]

Shanahan sounds like a teenage girl keeping a secret from a friend.

Just say you're undecided or no comment.

 

[flc735]

For the last few years I don't put any redskins running back on my roster.I don't care how hot the pickup is, not worth the getting screwed over part.(let some other idiots in your league play the shanny game)

if your talking about helu in the 5th round a few months ago, then i agree but at their price recently, you don't have to worry about deciding weather or not to start them. you are drafting them as your 4th rb and they have wayyyy more upside than the players that are going around them.you sit them on your bench, wait for one to have a good game and trade them away. very simple, very easy, very obvious low risk/high upside play.that plan would have worked perfectly twice last year, with hightower and helu

 

[ICON211]

Really not sure what he even gains by this. I mean if it was two different types of QBs ok, but this just seems like paranoia and overall silliness.

 

[otb_lifer]

For the last few years I don't put any redskins running back on my roster.I don't care how hot the pickup is, not worth the getting screwed over part.(let some other idiots in your league play the shanny game)

if your talking about helu in the 5th round a few months ago, then i agree but at their price recently, you don't have to worry about deciding weather or not to start them. you are drafting them as your 4th rb and they have wayyyy more upside than the players that are going around them.you sit them on your bench, wait for one to have a good game and trade them away. very simple, very easy, very obvious low risk/high upside play.that plan would have worked perfectly twice last year, with hightower and helu

Had a draft right after the Morris "breakout" game ... Helu fell to me in the 11th round (Hightower was taken in the 10th, Royster in the 9th ... Morris undrafted)For my 5th RB (DMac/Forte/McGahee/Reggie) I say hell yeah ... why the eff not.

 

[DoubleG]

For the last few years I don't put any redskins running back on my roster.I don't care how hot the pickup is, not worth the getting screwed over part.(let some other idiots in your league play the shanny game)

if your talking about helu in the 5th round a few months ago, then i agree but at their price recently, you don't have to worry about deciding weather or not to start them. you are drafting them as your 4th rb and they have wayyyy more upside than the players that are going around them.you sit them on your bench, wait for one to have a good game and trade them away. very simple, very easy, very obvious low risk/high upside play.that plan would have worked perfectly twice last year, with hightower and helu

Had a draft right after the Morris "breakout" game ... Helu fell to me in the 11th round (Hightower was taken in the 10th, Royster in the 9th ... Morris undrafted)For my 5th RB (DMac/Forte/McGahee/Reggie) I say @#!*% yeah ... why the eff not.

Because unless you have 457835937498 roster spots - it aint enough. I have seen guys carry 3-4 Shanny backs and STILL not have the starter on their roster come game time in a given week. There's a reason you can get them cheap - because the real starter may not even be on the 53 right now. This week, they could send somenone to IR, sign some obscure RB off their practice squad and he'll get 18 carries for 94 yards and a TD in week 1. No thanks. Let someone else try using up half their roster to play the Shanny-shell game.

 

[Manster]

(KFFL) Washington Redskins head coach Mike Shanahan indicated Saturday, Sept. 1, that he has settled on a starting running back for Week 1, but he is keeping it a secret. He said RBs Roy Helu Jr. and Evan Royster have made "tremendous progession" in pass protection, so the starter is believed to be one of the two.I thought Afred Morris was going to start

you might be a shark if.................you avoid playing shanahananigans

 

[Bruce Hammond]

Really not sure what he even gains by this.

I can't believe you don't see what he gains. This will totally disrupt the opposing team's defensive game plan. It will paralyze the defensive co-ordinator's ability to make decisions. The defensive linemen will all be up at night, pacing the floor, unable to sleep. Linebackers will be wringing their hands with worry and dread. Royster... or Helu... or Morris...??? It's all just too much to think about. And because they are facing the replacement coaches of the Saints in Week 1, Shanny's secret might cause them to simply not even show up, faced with too much uncertainty to even cope with. I'm shocked that all of this is not obvious to you. That Shanny, he thinks on a higher plane than the rest of us. He's a shrewd one.

 

[12punch]

what does he gain by telling you?

 

[WisWolvrns]

Collect information but offer none. Worked for Parcells many years in the league. If it wasn't for all the fantasy football people, it would be a non-story.

Overall he gains nothing by mentioning it and probably gains minimal by not, but a minimal gain is still better than a zero gain.

At the end of the day, who he 'names' the starter doesn't even matter, as past history has shown that if the 'starter' is having a bad couple series (or even carries!) he will get benched ASAP and the next guy in line will have his shot in the game and if he gets hot, Shanny will just leave the hot guy in the whole game...

 

[RBM]

Really not sure what he even gains by this.

I can't believe you don't see what he gains. This will totally disrupt the opposing team's defensive game plan. It will paralyze the defensive co-ordinator's ability to make decisions. The defensive linemen will all be up at night, pacing the floor, unable to sleep. Linebackers will be wringing their hands with worry and dread. Royster... or Helu... or Morris...??? It's all just too much to think about. And because they are facing the replacement coaches of the Saints in Week 1, Shanny's secret might cause them to simply not even show up, faced with too much uncertainty to even cope with. I'm shocked that all of this is not obvious to you. That Shanny, he thinks on a higher plane than the rest of us. He's a shrewd one.

Very good.Where is Clint to "let Shanny go". His time is up.

 

[fatness]

The defensive linemen will all be up at night, pacing the floor, unable to sleep. Linebackers will be wringing their hands with worry and dread. Royster... or Helu... or Morris...???

Actually it's more likely that the defensive linemen will be asking "what are those guy's names again?" at team meetings.

 

[Donnybrook]

Too bad for Washington, Shanny's secret weapon was just signed by the Omaha Nighthawks.

 

[mjr]

I think Shanahan plays these guessing games because he has to. RBs can rarely stay healthy for any length of time under his tenure, and because the position is usually fruitful regardless of who starts there's no reason for him to really change it. Hence, he NEEDS 2 or 3 or 4 RBs on the roster who he can plug in at any given time. While he probably has an idea of who he WANTS to start on any given week, even he doesn't know for sure because (like the rest of us) he doesn't know which RB is going to suffer the next inevitable injury.

I think he got comfortable with playing it off like he's got a master plan, forcing people to guess his "secrets" and letting people assume he's trying to "confuse" the defensive coordinator. But the truth has always been that it usually doesn't matter who starts because of the scheme he brings, and defensive coordinators are ( or at least should be) aware of that aspect by now.

That's the only fantasy value in playing Shanahan's game: The fantasy winner is the one who has the last healthy RB on Shanny's roster.

 

[Chazzhawk]

No my guess is Shanahan is one of those self righteous bastards, who thinks " How dare someone gamble on my players and my lively hood". So anytime he thinks he can make life harder on those people he will.

 

[Short Corner]

No my guess is Shanahan is one of those self righteous bastards, who thinks " How dare someone gamble on my players and my lively hood". So anytime he thinks he can make life harder on those people he will.

Right, because it's all about you. Nothing wrong with Shanny's tactics. Funny how much even the staffers here ##### and complain because it is sub-optimal for their needs.FWIW his hood isn't all that lively from what I've heard.

 

[Chazzhawk]

No my guess is Shanahan is one of those self righteous bastards, who thinks " How dare someone gamble on my players and my lively hood". So anytime he thinks he can make life harder on those people he will.

Right, because it's all about you. Nothing wrong with Shanny's tactics. Funny how much even the staffers here ##### and complain because it is sub-optimal for their needs.

FWIW his hood isn't all that lively from what I've heard.

It isn't all about me, but I am guessing he is one of those people that think that way. You know that guy/girl that tells you how to live your life even when you are doing fine, or when a person thinks they have a tough choice to make and a lot of people tell him to do this and they do something else because they want to be the smartest person in the room. Think there was a reason he traded a 1500 yard rusher after only 2 years in the league? Ya because he thought he could make any running back into a star. Lastly WTF are you even talking about?

 

[flc735]

No my guess is Shanahan is one of those self righteous bastards, who thinks " How dare someone gamble on my players and my lively hood". So anytime he thinks he can make life harder on those people he will.

Right, because it's all about you. Nothing wrong with Shanny's tactics. Funny how much even the staffers here ##### and complain because it is sub-optimal for their needs.

FWIW his hood isn't all that lively from what I've heard.

Think there was a reason he traded a 1500 yard rusher after only 2 years in the league? Ya because he thought he could make any running back into a star.

that was a good trade. denver had the #1 defense after that

 

[RenegadeGM]

No my guess is Shanahan is one of those self righteous bastards, who thinks " How dare someone gamble on my players and my lively hood". So anytime he thinks he can make life harder on those people he will.

Right, because it's all about you. Nothing wrong with Shanny's tactics. Funny how much even the staffers here ##### and complain because it is sub-optimal for their needs.

FWIW his hood isn't all that lively from what I've heard.

It isn't all about me, but I am guessing he is one of those people that think that way. You know that guy/girl that tells you how to live your life even when you are doing fine, or when a person thinks they have a tough choice to make and a lot of people tell him to do this and they do something else because they want to be the smartest person in the room. Think there was a reason he traded a 1500 yard rusher after only 2 years in the league? Ya because he thought he could make any running back into a star. Lastly WTF are you even talking about?

The last line was in response to the post he was quoting... the poster used "lively hood" instead of livelihood.

 

[Chazzhawk]

No my guess is Shanahan is one of those self righteous bastards, who thinks " How dare someone gamble on my players and my lively hood". So anytime he thinks he can make life harder on those people he will.

Right, because it's all about you. Nothing wrong with Shanny's tactics. Funny how much even the staffers here ##### and complain because it is sub-optimal for their needs.

FWIW his hood isn't all that lively from what I've heard.

It isn't all about me, but I am guessing he is one of those people that think that way. You know that guy/girl that tells you how to live your life even when you are doing fine, or when a person thinks they have a tough choice to make and a lot of people tell him to do this and they do something else because they want to be the smartest person in the room. Think there was a reason he traded a 1500 yard rusher after only 2 years in the league? Ya because he thought he could make any running back into a star. Lastly WTF are you even talking about?

The last line was in response to the post he was quoting... the poster used "lively hood" instead of livelihood.

Oh well, can't spell. Lame joke, moving on.

 

[Shanahanigans]

Think there was a reason he traded a 1500 yard rusher after only 2 years in the league? Ya because he thought he could make any running back into a star.

No he made that trade because he got Hall of Famer Champ Bailey and a 2nd Round Pick. It was clearly the right move.

 

[Assani Fisher]

No my guess is Shanahan is one of those self righteous bastards, who thinks " How dare someone gamble on my players and my lively hood". So anytime he thinks he can make life harder on those people he will.

Right, because it's all about you. Nothing wrong with Shanny's tactics. Funny how much even the staffers here ##### and complain because it is sub-optimal for their needs.

FWIW his hood isn't all that lively from what I've heard.

I've never ever understood this(people complaining about guys like Shanny). It would seem to me that the ways in which the better FF players separate themselves from ordinary players is through their ability to accurately analyze and predict situations that are murky and unknown. As such they should want as many of these situations as possible- the average FF players will just live by maxims such as "never draft a Shanny RB", whereas the true shark will be able to independently analyze each situation and use his skill to arrive at better predictions than others.

 

[Assani Fisher]

Think there was a reason he traded a 1500 yard rusher after only 2 years in the league?

yes, because he got offered much better value in return

 

[johnnyboy8102]

I took Royster near the end of my draft as a flier before Morris had his good games. I don't want to bite on Morris and waste another roster spot.

My guess is all 3 backs (or more) will star at some point again this season and started the right guy on the right week will be a mini miracle again.

 

[fatness]

It isn't all about me, but I am guessing he is one of those people that think that way. You know that guy/girl that tells you how to live your life even when you are doing fine, or when a person thinks they have a tough choice to make and a lot of people tell him to do this and they do something else because they want to be the smartest person in the room.

Thanks for the input.

 

[LHUCKS]

Skeletor's secrecy is exactly what is making Helu the biggest RB value pick right now.

If you're a shark this is exactly what you want him saying.

Silly guppies.

 

[LHUCKS]

I took Royster near the end of my draft as a flier before Morris had his good games. I don't want to bite on Morris and waste another roster spot. My guess is all 3 backs (or more) will star at some point again this season and started the right guy on the right week will be a mini miracle again.

Shannahan isn't opposed to single featured back, he's done that plenty in the past.Helu is clearly the superior talent here.

 

[Two Deep]

It will come down too health and pass protection.

 

[BespokeJort]

Shanahan's starting RB has always been a secret, whether he named a starter or not. The way I see it this is more honest.

 

[LHUCKS]

Shanahan's starting RB has always been a secret

Clinton Portis and Terrel Davis called...Shannahan will have a featured back once he finds one.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Thode who got Helix cheap will make out like bandits here

 

[otb_lifer]

Thode who got Helix cheap will make out like bandits here

I think this is code for "Helu owners rejoice" ...

 

[johnnyboy8102]

Shanahan's starting RB has always been a secret

Clinton Portis and Terrel Davis called...Shannahan will have a featured back once he finds one.

That was a decade ago. Recent history shows that he will play these games all season.

 

[LHUCKS]

Shanahan's starting RB has always been a secret

Clinton Portis and Terrel Davis called...Shannahan will have a featured back once he finds one.

That was a decade ago. Recent history shows that he will play these games all season.

you're right....he will never have a featured back for the rest of his career.Good call.

 

[sspunisher]

Who's a good Redskins beat writer on Twitter? Some practices will be open to the media, whoever is working with RG3 in practice might get the first crack at it.

 

[drater]

Chris Russell is the guy you want to follow.

 

[Marvelous]

I drafted Royster and Morris as late round fliers at the end of my draft. I figure I have the starting RB for the Redskins for 2/3 of their games. Assuming they don't pick up Steve Slaton.

 

[fatness]

Who's a good Redskins beat writer on Twitter? Some practices will be open to the media, whoever is working with RG3 in practice might get the first crack at it.

The 2 best are John Keim and Rich Campbell. Others who are good are Chris Russell, Mike Jones, and Rich Tandler. But Keim and Campbell are the best.

 

[sspunisher]

Thanks gents, I'll be following all 3 closely.

 

[Mile High]

Shanahan is way overrated.

 

[Biabreakable]

Skeletor!!

So glad that whatever he decides to do in no way affects me.