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[biju]

TJax takes all the reps with the #1 offense.http://mynorthwest.com/275/719331/Flynn-to-get-2nd-straight-start-for-SeattleApparently left out of the rotation is incumbent starter Tarvaris Jackson, who took all the reps with the No. 1 offense as Seattle (No. 22 in the AP Pro32) returned to practice on Tuesday, but will be shuffled to the end of the line and may see extremely limited action, if any, against the Broncos."Tarvaris has played a lot of football for us and we have to give somewhere so we're giving that," Carroll said. "We understand the kind of player he is. He's in great shape, he's studied hard, he's ready to go and we're banking that he'll be able to hold his level of play without two weeks of playing time. If he gets in the game he does. I don't know how that's going to work. ... The emphasis is to get Matt and Russell their play time again so we can get another big body of knowledge on them."Even though Jackson has yet to take a snap this preseason, Carroll said he remains in the three-way competition. Jackson played in 15 games last season and through a painful pectoral injury for much of the year. But his time with the first team offense in the last 10 days has been limited to a scrimmage, and the past two Tuesdays of practice."He's still in the competition. Absolutely he is. This is just the way I've chosen to do it," Carroll said. "I'm banking on the 18 games we've seen him. And he knows the offense, he knows what is going on and seen him practicing one day a week last year for five weeks. I'm using all that information to allow us the opportunity to see these other guys. If we cut it in thirds I don't think we can do that at this time. This is what the plan was all along if it worked out."

Carroll is crazy. He really is. I'm holding onto Tjax and Wilson in a dynasty startup superflex. You just never know what is going to happen there.

I totally agree. I read here that Flynn is starting the 2nd preseason game and then bat-###-crazy Carroll gives #1 reps to Tjax. What the hell?

For the record, T-Jack received (from the local paper I'm reading--I wasn't there so I can't verify) *some* of the 1st team reps, not all of them. And he's also not going to practice with them the rest of the week--Matt Flynn is. I'm not sure what is so insane about this actually. I think most interesting was when Carroll was questioned about why Wilson isn't starting at Denver he said "This is where they sit right now." Is a real depth chart starting to emerge?

 

[ex-ghost]

TJax takes all the reps with the #1 offense.http://mynorthwest.com/275/719331/Flynn-to-get-2nd-straight-start-for-SeattleApparently left out of the rotation is incumbent starter Tarvaris Jackson, who took all the reps with the No. 1 offense as Seattle (No. 22 in the AP Pro32) returned to practice on Tuesday, but will be shuffled to the end of the line and may see extremely limited action, if any, against the Broncos."Tarvaris has played a lot of football for us and we have to give somewhere so we're giving that," Carroll said. "We understand the kind of player he is. He's in great shape, he's studied hard, he's ready to go and we're banking that he'll be able to hold his level of play without two weeks of playing time. If he gets in the game he does. I don't know how that's going to work. ... The emphasis is to get Matt and Russell their play time again so we can get another big body of knowledge on them."Even though Jackson has yet to take a snap this preseason, Carroll said he remains in the three-way competition. Jackson played in 15 games last season and through a painful pectoral injury for much of the year. But his time with the first team offense in the last 10 days has been limited to a scrimmage, and the past two Tuesdays of practice."He's still in the competition. Absolutely he is. This is just the way I've chosen to do it," Carroll said. "I'm banking on the 18 games we've seen him. And he knows the offense, he knows what is going on and seen him practicing one day a week last year for five weeks. I'm using all that information to allow us the opportunity to see these other guys. If we cut it in thirds I don't think we can do that at this time. This is what the plan was all along if it worked out."

Carroll is crazy. He really is. I'm holding onto Tjax and Wilson in a dynasty startup superflex. You just never know what is going to happen there.

I totally agree. I read here that Flynn is starting the 2nd preseason game and then bat-###-crazy Carroll gives #1 reps to Tjax. What the hell?

For the record, T-Jack received (from the local paper I'm reading--I wasn't there so I can't verify) *some* of the 1st team reps, not all of them. And he's also not going to practice with them the rest of the week--Matt Flynn is. I'm not sure what is so insane about this actually. I think most interesting was when Carroll was questioned about why Wilson isn't starting at Denver he said "This is where they sit right now." Is a real depth chart starting to emerge?

What is so insane about it? The fact that you give your #3 reps with the #1 offense at this point is insane. Actually, maybe giving the #4 the reps is crazy. Portis should be getting them.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Brees is a master at sliding and stepping up in the pocket to find throwing lanes. And his lack of height is offset by the fact that he release point is extraordinarily high. Then factor in his football IQ, which is off the charts.

I can't stand that scientist dude... but he's right, that is what is always said about Wilson... plus he can make every throw and is a superb leader and immaculate prepper. Oh, and the uncanny accuracy and anticipation... that is very Brees like to me.Maybe I missed the sarcasm and you were trying to be funny?

What possible hint of sarcasm could you have gleaned from my quote.

As soon as he compares to Drew Brees on an NFL field because of anything other than height, I'll come back and sing his praises.

Until then, it's just speculation. Heath Shuler was pretty smart coming out of college also.

Speculation? You mean like trying to guess which player is the best choice for your 1.04 pick? Like trying to predict whether Eli Manning, Tony Romo or Phillip Rivers will have a better statistical year in 2012?Well, hell, boys, this is fantasy football. We can't have any speculation in here! We deal only in certainties!

Actually, he has a much better arm than Brees did coming out of college. So you're right, they aren't carbon copies of one another.

 

[biju]

TJax takes all the reps with the #1 offense.http://mynorthwest.com/275/719331/Flynn-to-get-2nd-straight-start-for-SeattleApparently left out of the rotation is incumbent starter Tarvaris Jackson, who took all the reps with the No. 1 offense as Seattle (No. 22 in the AP Pro32) returned to practice on Tuesday, but will be shuffled to the end of the line and may see extremely limited action, if any, against the Broncos."Tarvaris has played a lot of football for us and we have to give somewhere so we're giving that," Carroll said. "We understand the kind of player he is. He's in great shape, he's studied hard, he's ready to go and we're banking that he'll be able to hold his level of play without two weeks of playing time. If he gets in the game he does. I don't know how that's going to work. ... The emphasis is to get Matt and Russell their play time again so we can get another big body of knowledge on them."Even though Jackson has yet to take a snap this preseason, Carroll said he remains in the three-way competition. Jackson played in 15 games last season and through a painful pectoral injury for much of the year. But his time with the first team offense in the last 10 days has been limited to a scrimmage, and the past two Tuesdays of practice."He's still in the competition. Absolutely he is. This is just the way I've chosen to do it," Carroll said. "I'm banking on the 18 games we've seen him. And he knows the offense, he knows what is going on and seen him practicing one day a week last year for five weeks. I'm using all that information to allow us the opportunity to see these other guys. If we cut it in thirds I don't think we can do that at this time. This is what the plan was all along if it worked out."

Carroll is crazy. He really is. I'm holding onto Tjax and Wilson in a dynasty startup superflex. You just never know what is going to happen there.

I totally agree. I read here that Flynn is starting the 2nd preseason game and then bat-###-crazy Carroll gives #1 reps to Tjax. What the hell?

For the record, T-Jack received (from the local paper I'm reading--I wasn't there so I can't verify) *some* of the 1st team reps, not all of them. And he's also not going to practice with them the rest of the week--Matt Flynn is. I'm not sure what is so insane about this actually. I think most interesting was when Carroll was questioned about why Wilson isn't starting at Denver he said "This is where they sit right now." Is a real depth chart starting to emerge?

What is so insane about it? The fact that you give your #3 reps with the #1 offense at this point is insane. Actually, maybe giving the #4 the reps is crazy. Portis should be getting them.

And you know T-Jack is the #3? Look, in all fairness I wish Flynn would get the large majority of snaps too, however I guess I'm not quite as concerned with missing out on a part of a Tuesday as everyone else is because I *believe* Flynn with 1/2 the snaps will still be a vast improvement to Jackson with all the snaps. Is it ideal? No, but neither is the process of finding a starting QB, especially when you have what the Seahawks have on their roster.

 

[ex-ghost]

TJax takes all the reps with the #1 offense.http://mynorthwest.com/275/719331/Flynn-to-get-2nd-straight-start-for-SeattleApparently left out of the rotation is incumbent starter Tarvaris Jackson, who took all the reps with the No. 1 offense as Seattle (No. 22 in the AP Pro32) returned to practice on Tuesday, but will be shuffled to the end of the line and may see extremely limited action, if any, against the Broncos."Tarvaris has played a lot of football for us and we have to give somewhere so we're giving that," Carroll said. "We understand the kind of player he is. He's in great shape, he's studied hard, he's ready to go and we're banking that he'll be able to hold his level of play without two weeks of playing time. If he gets in the game he does. I don't know how that's going to work. ... The emphasis is to get Matt and Russell their play time again so we can get another big body of knowledge on them."Even though Jackson has yet to take a snap this preseason, Carroll said he remains in the three-way competition. Jackson played in 15 games last season and through a painful pectoral injury for much of the year. But his time with the first team offense in the last 10 days has been limited to a scrimmage, and the past two Tuesdays of practice."He's still in the competition. Absolutely he is. This is just the way I've chosen to do it," Carroll said. "I'm banking on the 18 games we've seen him. And he knows the offense, he knows what is going on and seen him practicing one day a week last year for five weeks. I'm using all that information to allow us the opportunity to see these other guys. If we cut it in thirds I don't think we can do that at this time. This is what the plan was all along if it worked out."

Carroll is crazy. He really is. I'm holding onto Tjax and Wilson in a dynasty startup superflex. You just never know what is going to happen there.

I totally agree. I read here that Flynn is starting the 2nd preseason game and then bat-###-crazy Carroll gives #1 reps to Tjax. What the hell?

For the record, T-Jack received (from the local paper I'm reading--I wasn't there so I can't verify) *some* of the 1st team reps, not all of them. And he's also not going to practice with them the rest of the week--Matt Flynn is. I'm not sure what is so insane about this actually. I think most interesting was when Carroll was questioned about why Wilson isn't starting at Denver he said "This is where they sit right now." Is a real depth chart starting to emerge?

What is so insane about it? The fact that you give your #3 reps with the #1 offense at this point is insane. Actually, maybe giving the #4 the reps is crazy. Portis should be getting them.

And you know T-Jack is the #3? Look, in all fairness I wish Flynn would get the large majority of snaps too, however I guess I'm not quite as concerned with missing out on a part of a Tuesday as everyone else is because I *believe* Flynn with 1/2 the snaps will still be a vast improvement to Jackson with all the snaps. Is it ideal? No, but neither is the process of finding a starting QB, especially when you have what the Seahawks have on their roster.

I agree with most of what you wrote, except I do believe that T Jack will not be the #3 for much longer. I don't see them keeping him over Portis.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I don't think this is settled after game 1

I think it is. They paid one guy, they started him - and he played well - how does he not start??

The bolded is the biggest lie I keep seeing repeated over and over. I continue to point it out every time I see it. They paid one guy? What does that mean to you? If you look into the reality I think you'll find that the Seahawks signed Flynn to a rather favorable deal. It surprised a lot of people around the league that they got lucky not having to overpay. The meat of the discussion is that Flynn is guaranteed $10 million over two years. That's nowhere near big money for a starter. That's less than the average NFL starting QB. Adding to this discussion is the notion that Carroll has repeatedly shown that he's married to no player. If he has a better player he will put them on the field. That includes rookies. Wright, Baldwin, and Sherman are perfect examples. They even gave converted DL and late round draft pick JR Sweezy (7th?) a chance at starting at RG this season. He ran with the first unit in the game yesterday some and has been getting lots of reps in practice with the first unit. As a fan in Seattle its been refreshing.

A source with knowledge of the situation tells Profootballtalk that Tarvaris Jackson was never a serious contender to start in 2012.We suspected as much once Matt Flynn landed $10 million in guarantees. The same source confirms the Seahawks have already spoken to a couple of teams about a trade, which explains the hesitance to risk an injury to Jackson in preseason action.

 

[Shawn]

he can go get sacked somewhere else now YAY!

 

[nikshatnt]

Hopefully next week we see Wilson with the starters and against defensive starters. There was guys playing wide receiver the second half with Wilson that wont make the team. Flynn looked okay and threw a very nice deep pass to TO but to quote someone earlier about Wilson. " he is just a guy".

 

[spider321]

Flynn is most definately just a guy.

 

[bonesman]

I Wilson

Get him on the field with Mr. and he pulls in those passes for him. Watch. Sometimes guys just play harder for some players. It's like the GB receivers on that MNF vs Oakland when Favre's dad passed.

Sometimes guys just go harder for certain guys (NTTAWWT!)and I think feisty Mr. DangerRuss inspires and will even come to DEMAND that effort his teammates. Really, who better to rally behind!??!? As soon as he gets some 1st team reps in the spotlight this QB controversy will be complete.

 

[Abraham]

Terrell owens has so many off field financial issues that of Jeff Garcia an Donnie Mcnabb were rotating every series, he would still be diving in to the turf to catch their ground balls in hopes of sticking on the roster.

 

[mad sweeney]

Terrell owens has so many off field financial issues that of Jeff Garcia an Donnie Mcnabb were rotating every series, he would still be diving in to the turf to catch their ground balls in hopes of sticking on the roster.

He's already playing for his most loved player of all time, himself. Cut him already.

 

[Raider Nation]

ESPN's John Clayton reiterated on SportsCenter Sunday that Tarvaris Jackson is sure to be released or traded before Week 1."Most likely he will be released or traded after the fourth preseason game," Clayton said. Jackson is owed a relatively hefty $4 million, so teams may prefer to wait for him to get cut instead of pulling the trigger on a trade. Some teams that make sense as Jackson landing spots include Green Bay, Philadelphia, and Oakland. Jackson has spent his entire career in West Coast schemes.

 

[mad sweeney]

ESPN's John Clayton reiterated on SportsCenter Sunday that Tarvaris Jackson is sure to be released or traded before Week 1."Most likely he will be released or traded after the fourth preseason game," Clayton said. Jackson is owed a relatively hefty $4 million, so teams may prefer to wait for him to get cut instead of pulling the trigger on a trade. Some teams that make sense as Jackson landing spots include Green Bay, Philadelphia, and Oakland. Jackson has spent his entire career in West Coast schemes.

Everybody knew this as soon as Wilson was drafted, or as soon as his contract was signed for only two years. Ports would've been the backup if they hadn't drafted Wilson. Two year contract to replacevtwo year contract while the new regime builds OL and D = office temp.

 

[Faust]

Russell Wilson might start Seahawks' game Friday

By Brian McIntyre

Around the League writer

At some point Tuesday, Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll is expected to name a starting quarterback for his team's third preseason game, which comes against the Kansas City Chiefs on Friday night.

Free agent addition Matt Flynn has started and played the entire first half in both of the Seahawks' preseason games thus far. Russell Wilson, a 2012 third-round draft pick, came off the bench to play the second half, but those roles could be reversed this week.

According to Danny O'Neill of The Seattle Times, Wilson appears to be the choice to start this week. O'Neill is basing Wilson's nod on "multiple indications" following the team's Monday meetings.

Starting Wilson in this game would be par for the course for the unconventional way in which Carroll has gone about, and quite possibly butchered, determining the Seahawks' starting quarterback this offseason.

By splitting what was a decreased number of reps in the OTAs, minicamp and training camp -- which Jackson opened with the first-team offense -- each quarterback could make the case that he did not receive a sufficient number of snaps to grab hold of the job. Even after Flynn appeared to nudge ahead of the other two quarterbacks to start the preseason opener, what did Carroll do? He had Jackson back getting first-team reps in training camp last Tuesday.

This scatterbrained approach to the position is why Wilson starting the third preseason game might have absolutely no impact on who starts the regular season-opener against the Arizona Cardinals on Sept. 9. Heck, fourth-stringer Josh Portis could be the starter in that game.

The only certainty at the quarterback position for the Seahawks right now is that Tarvaris Jackson and his $4 million base salary will be wearing a triple-layered bubble wrap suit and sitting behind (or under) the bench or, more preferably to general manager John Schneider, in a panic room inside team headquarters until he's traded or released.

 

[Donnybrook]

Russell Wilson might start Seahawks' game Friday

By Brian McIntyre

Around the League writer

....This scatterbrained approach to the position is why Wilson starting the third preseason game might have absolutely no impact on who starts the regular season-opener against the Arizona Cardinals on Sept. 9. Heck, fourth-stringer Josh Portis could be the starter in that game.

...

It might have no impact if Carroll does a Belichick and pulls all his first string starters from the game. However, if he leaves them in there and Wilson performs well, then it becomes a Tony Romo situation circa 2006. Like Romo, the fans will be clamoring for Wilson the first time Flynn doesn't meet expectations.

 

[VaTerp]

If Wilson is named the week 1 starter I will happily eat my crow in this thread.

I underestimated Carroll's lack of conventionalism and how Wilson has performed thus far.

As of right now though, I still think Flynn opens up the season as the starter. We'll see.

 

[Shutout]

If Wilson is named the week 1 starter I will happily eat my crow in this thread.I underestimated Carroll's lack of conventionalism and how Wilson has performed thus far.As of right now though, I still think Flynn opens up the season as the starter. We'll see.

Agree.Overall, I just hate this. you see teams like the Titans say several times how critical it is to name a starter and get those reps in. then they back-peddle and say they will delay it but then, less than a day later, make a decision. That illustrates how, in the real world, how important it it to decide on your guy and get that time in.Dolphins name their guy. Browns named theirs early. this continued yo-yo QB play isn't good for anybody. If nothing else, you can always start the veteran and if he flops, you've bought yourself a month or whatever for the rookie to continue to learn during REAL weeks. But if you toss the rookie in there and he flops, how bad do you look to your team and fans CLEARLY going to what you have aknowledged by that point was a wrong move.

 

[Donnybrook]

You are in denial if you don't think Flynn will be the starter, Wilson will be the backup, and Jackson will be cut.

I guess I in denial because I am keeping an open mind. Wilson has open huge advantage over Flynn. He can escape pressure and get 1st down with his legs. He also shown incrediable poise for a rookie. I am not sure leaving Wilson talent on the bench give them a better chance to win.

The number of rookie quarterbacks who have led a team to more than 8 wins is very, very short.

I forgot Flynn has started two games so technically he's not a rookie. It is Pete Carrol decision not yours or mine. I believe there is a decent chance that he could choose to start Wilson.

Flynn has been in the league for 4 years. Even if he hadn't started those 2 games, he wouldn't be a rookie.

You're a wealth of information. Thanks for letting me know.

And thanks for letting me know that Flynn started 2 games and therefore wasn't a rookie. I couldn't have figured that out through Google, NFL.com, PFR, or by watching the Packers play last year. You, sir, are the very definition of a shark. I'm surprised that Joe hasn't hired you as a staffer yet.

Hey buddy where did you go. I haven't heard from you in awhile.

 

[VaTerp]

The Seahawks have named third-round pick Russell Wilson their Week 1 starting quarterback.Wilson earned the job by going 35-of-52 (67.3 percent) for 464 yards (8.92 YPA), five touchdowns, and one interception in three preseason games. He's tacked on 150 rushing yards and a sixth touchdown on 10 scrambles. Wilson has played with controlled urgency, and been devastating on play-action fakes. While we're not ready to crown Wilson a back-end QB1, he'll be a very high-upside QB2 selection who you can probably get in the teen-rounds of drafts. Wilson getting the job may be good news for Marshawn Lynch, in particular. Seattle's zone-run scheme could take off with a dual-threat quarterback at the helm.

I'll take my crow with Dancing Pigs sauce and a case of Heineken.

 

[biju]

For the first time in a long time I'm very excited about our QB situation. I think he'll have some serious growing pains at points in the season, but then again I think it's all with the right eye toward the future.

I called this one wrong, and right now I'm very happy about it.