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Well, it's a pretty limited pool to pick from, not that many players have held out that long. I'm not sure the followup part means much as every situation is different.But off the top of my head, Bo Jackson and Joey Galloway both had long-term holdouts and were successful after.
Depends on how you define "impact". Galloway was the first to pop into my mind.
Really? I have always thought Floyd was an above average run blocker. The only source I know of that addresses this is ProFootballFocus, which ranked Floyd as the 10th best run blocking WR in the league last year, despite the fact that he played only 571 snaps due to not starting until the 8th game (it is a cumulative rating). VJax was tied for 7th in their ranking. Here are the top 10 (zero is the average grade):Muhammad 6.7
While I agree with your general sentiment here, the fact that VJax had the second most targets on the team to Gates pretty much shows that Rivers found that he very often had the best matchup, which is a credit to VJax. In fact, by your statement here, I don't think that is "Rivers making VJax"... that is VJax playing well enough to get the ball in position to make a lot of big plays. I think Rivers will do fine without him, but they would obviously be much better off with him from a competitive standpoint (ignoring off field issues, salary cap, etc.).
Galloway sat out 8 games, Hawks were 6-2. He came back, 2-6 and was traded in offseason. Missed the next season after preseason injury.
I guess he qualifies. Although he didn't have a season over 1000 yards receiving until 7 years after his holdout. The sample size is admittedly small, but it seems to me that guys just don't come back ready to play for quite some time when they sit out.
Keenan McCardell sat out 9 games and made an immediate impact when traded to the chargersthen next year (2005) the Charger's top receivers were:Gates: 1101McCardell: 917
:X I didn't realize Floyd graded out so well as a blocker. I wouldn't have guessed it from watching him and knowing his physical attributes (great hands, long strider, yet skinny and not great lateral movement). One think Floyd does seem to have is hustle and heart, which goes a long way w/re to blocking and likely is the reason Floyd grades well.Thanks for pointing this out - I feel even better about VJax moving on and am happy to be corrected.
This is what is confusing to me. Common sense says that if the Chargers have made up their mind to move on, wouldn't they let everyone (except maybe divisional opponents) try to sign him?
In 7 games in 2004, McCardell had 393 yards receiving. That's 56 yards a game. That doesn't excite me a whole lot. He had 917 the next year which isn't terrible, but again, not really outstanding. In fact, that's right about the mark that T.J. Houshmandzadeh hit last year. I don't think anyone wants to pay $10M per year to a WR for that kind of production.
it's outstanding for a 35 year oldthe point is that the holdout didn't really do anything to hurt McCardell relative to where he was in his career
This answers the question: How does John Madden spend his time after retirement?
Not sure, but maybe it's because they've discussed trade compensation with the teams before they allow them to talk to VJax about a contract? If they aren't close on trade compensation, then there's no reason to allow them to speak with him I guess.
I'm pretty sure that the suspension can be served concurrently with his league suspension. As long as he signs before game 1, he only has to serve the 3 games total, which teams already know about.
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Or maybe the other teams are teams that the Chargers would prefer to see without VJax.
Interesting...
Joey Galloway
Gilbert did get the deal he wanted after sitting out, however. I know players only have a finite amount of time to play, but I imagine Jackson also thinks that any play could be his last in the NFL and wants to be well-compensated before that happens. I don't see him coming back to play with San Diego unless he absolutely feels he needs the service time, and if he does come back, it will be for the bare minimum of games.
Galloway sat out 8 games.
