Seahawks LBs (1 Viewer)

[sportsmonkey_j]

Can anyone give any insight to the Seattle LBs? Is the defense moving to a 3-4? What does Carroll bring in terms of philosophy?

I'm very curious about Hawthorne. He was so productive last year I don't see how he can be put on the bench. Will he start in place of Hill during the suspension? Could he keep the job? It's not like Hill was all that productive when he played.

Does Curry remain in the same spot? He underwhelmed last year. Was there improvement as the year progressed?

Any news? Thanks.

 

[JOBOOZOSO]

Can anyone give any insight to the Seattle LBs? Is the defense moving to a 3-4? What does Carroll bring in terms of philosophy?I'm very curious about Hawthorne. He was so productive last year I don't see how he can be put on the bench. Will he start in place of Hill during the suspension? Could he keep the job? It's not like Hill was all that productive when he played. Does Curry remain in the same spot? He underwhelmed last year. Was there improvement as the year progressed?Any news? Thanks.

You're wrong about Hill. The former coaching staff loved him (at least on the field). He was often referred to as the best linebacker on the team, which included Julian Peterson and Lofa. He just never stood out in terms of fantasy production.As for 3-4, I have heard nothing saying the 'Hawks were switching to the scheme. I don't know if Lofa or Hawthorne can play Will or Sam, and Curry is obviously not going anywhere. Someone solid will be out of a job. I'd be calling the Giants and seeing what I could get for an injury-prone Lofa. As a 'Hawks fan and IDPer, I want Hawthorne as a starter.

 

[sportsmonkey_j]

You're wrong about Hill. The former coaching staff loved him (at least on the field). He was often referred to as the best linebacker on the team, which included Julian Peterson and Lofa. He just never stood out in terms of fantasy production.

As for 3-4, I have heard nothing saying the 'Hawks were switching to the scheme. I don't know if Lofa or Hawthorne can play Will or Sam, and Curry is obviously not going anywhere. Someone solid will be out of a job. I'd be calling the Giants and seeing what I could get for an injury-prone Lofa. As a 'Hawks fan and IDPer, I want Hawthorne as a starter.

Maybe Hill is a better game LB than fantasy LB cause I had him on one of my teams last year and he didn't produce at all.

 

[Zoomanji]

I'd be surprised if Hill was on the team when the season starts.

Arrested twice in the last month or so. Told to stay away from OTAs. I doubt they will make a spot for him in the starting line-up.

 

[cr8f]

I'd be surprised if Hill was on the team when the season starts.Arrested twice in the last month or so. Told to stay away from OTAs. I doubt they will make a spot for him in the starting line-up.

Interesting thoughts on Hill. I don't see it happening once the legal problems clear up but then maybe they won't. I see him in the starting lineup in a 4-3.

 

[Jene Bramel]

I'd be surprised if Hill was on the team when the season starts.Arrested twice in the last month or so. Told to stay away from OTAs. I doubt they will make a spot for him in the starting line-up.

I think the team is setting the groundwork to move Hill into a reserve role as well.Carroll/Bradley have apparently decided that Curry isn't as good a fit in the Elephant role as originally expected. That means he'll play linebacker exclusively and the Elephant look won't have four "linebackers" on the field. With Hill told to stay away and Hawthorne a reasonable fit at OLB, I think it's possible they'll start camp with Curry OLB // Tatupu MLB // Hawthorne OLB.The 3-4 thing originally started as a throwaway comment from a front office person who's no longer with the team (Ruskell). I think the latest 3-4 speculation stems from the Elephant talk. Curry would have been a standup DE in that alignment, but it really wouldn't have been a 3-4 philosophy. But, because it would likely have meant Hill/Tatupu/Hawthorne playing linebacker, it would have been a three lineman, four backer front. Semantics, maybe, but I don't think there's any real 3-4 in the mix.

 

[sgtrobo]

so hawthorne has a chance to be a 3-snap LB then?

he might be worth keeping, simply because he would be a useful plug into a lineup then, even when Tatupu ISN'T injured

 

[Jene Bramel]

so hawthorne has a chance to be a 3-snap LB then?he might be worth keeping, simply because he would be a useful plug into a lineup then, even when Tatupu ISN'T injured

In the scenario above, I think Tatupu and Curry would be the every-down players. This is all speculation, and I'd still consider Hawthorne a long shot for every-down duty in 2010. JOBOO is correct that the coaches have been impressed with Hill on the field. It's hard to read them sending him home during important offseason install sessions as a good thing, but it's possible that Hill is back in the lineup by camp.

 

[Warpig]

So, who is the WLB here? Is it Curry or Hill/Hawthorne?

 

[Jene Bramel]

So, who is the WLB here? Is it Curry or Hill/Hawthorne?

The local media has always called Aaron Curry the SLB. That didn't reflect what we saw during most of last season, when Curry was aligned away from the TE. We've noted that most Tampa-2 playbooks play the WLB over the TE in some underfronts, so there's a semantic issue possibly involved here. If the Seahawks continue to play more Bradley-inspired Tampa-2 than Carroll-inspired 4-3 Over Elephant schemes, it'll be the player aligned away from the TE that's the higher value, especially if that player is an every-down guy.Right now, I'd say that guy is probably Curry. I wouldn't yet be confident enough to bring him into the top 25-30 overall in the redraft rankings until we see/hear more definitive plans from the coaches, but I'd lean Curry over Hawthorne for 2010 potential today.

 

[Warpig]

So, who is the WLB here? Is it Curry or Hill/Hawthorne?

The local media has always called Aaron Curry the SLB. That didn't reflect what we saw during most of last season, when Curry was aligned away from the TE. We've noted that most Tampa-2 playbooks play the WLB over the TE in some underfronts, so there's a semantic issue possibly involved here. If the Seahawks continue to play more Bradley-inspired Tampa-2 than Carroll-inspired 4-3 Over Elephant schemes, it'll be the player aligned away from the TE that's the higher value, especially if that player is an every-down guy.Right now, I'd say that guy is probably Curry. I wouldn't yet be confident enough to bring him into the top 25-30 overall in the redraft rankings until we see/hear more definitive plans from the coaches, but I'd lean Curry over Hawthorne for 2010 potential today.

Thanks for the great info. My dilemma is that I'm in the middle of a startup IDP dynasty auction and it's getting to that point where I gotta take a shot on some guys and all the SEA LBs are still available. Just trying to gauge which one has more value. Do you foresee this as being something similar to the Vikings LB situation? Isn't Leber the WLB there yet it's Greenway that is more valuable. Do they rotate their LBs as well?

 

[Jene Bramel]

So, who is the WLB here? Is it Curry or Hill/Hawthorne?

The local media has always called Aaron Curry the SLB. That didn't reflect what we saw during most of last season, when Curry was aligned away from the TE. We've noted that most Tampa-2 playbooks play the WLB over the TE in some underfronts, so there's a semantic issue possibly involved here. If the Seahawks continue to play more Bradley-inspired Tampa-2 than Carroll-inspired 4-3 Over Elephant schemes, it'll be the player aligned away from the TE that's the higher value, especially if that player is an every-down guy.Right now, I'd say that guy is probably Curry. I wouldn't yet be confident enough to bring him into the top 25-30 overall in the redraft rankings until we see/hear more definitive plans from the coaches, but I'd lean Curry over Hawthorne for 2010 potential today.

Thanks for the great info. My dilemma is that I'm in the middle of a startup IDP dynasty auction and it's getting to that point where I gotta take a shot on some guys and all the SEA LBs are still available. Just trying to gauge which one has more value. Do you foresee this as being something similar to the Vikings LB situation? Isn't Leber the WLB there yet it's Greenway that is more valuable. Do they rotate their LBs as well?

I think Curry has to be considered a higher value than Hawthorne. It's all circumstantial, but he's got the higher pedigree, the likely better position in the scheme and should develop into a better all-around talent than he showed last season. Today, I'd rank the 2010 situation Tatupu > Curry > Hawthorne > Hill.The Minnesota situation is a reasonable analogy -- it's the same scheme -- but Greenway is the "WLB" across from the TE, while Curry has been the "SLB" away from the TE at times. The comp fits in that both are solid pursuit players who project to play every down. Curry, assuming he aligns away from the TE, has a slightly more favorable position but the numbers aren't likely to be too far apart unless Curry breaks out as his comfort level grows.

 

[sportsmonkey_j]

Great insight