Seahawks vs Vikings Game Thread (1 Viewer)

[nygiants56]

As a Seahawk fan I must say I really like the defense this year....its actually the offense which worries me. The hawks don't have a TRUE #1 WR. Maybe Hackett can develop into that guy Alexander is on his last legs IMO....I hope the Hawks get some offense in the draft next year.

You're nuts. His last legs? He reported to camp in better condition than in any other camp. He might have started the backside of his career but his last legs won't come for a few more years.

He is 31 ....... I didn't mean his career is over....It would benifit Alexander to have another RB there next year to help w/ the carries.

He turns 30 in 5 days. What else does last legs mean? Marshall Faulk and Curtis Martin were on their last legs.

And Weaver is supposed to help in spelling SA as well.

I'm sure that RB will be addressed next year as a natural progression but that doesn't have any bearing on this year.

You don't need a true #1 WR. The Pats have never had one, we didn't when Koren was producing. The WCO spreads the ball around.

I think he means last legs as in 'Eddie George last legs', i.e., slower, looks like he's running in mud..George fell to pieces his last few seasons. Faulk burned out , too..Ricky Watters broke down...Rodney Hampton fell apart , and injuries took their toll...Emmitt Smith looked terrible in Az..thats what I think he meant, that SA *could* be like one of the above...

 

[mad sweeney]

As a Seahawk fan I must say I really like the defense this year....its actually the offense which worries me. The hawks don't have a TRUE #1 WR. Maybe Hackett can develop into that guy Alexander is on his last legs IMO....I hope the Hawks get some offense in the draft next year.

You're nuts. His last legs? He reported to camp in better condition than in any other camp. He might have started the backside of his career but his last legs won't come for a few more years.

He is 31 ....... I didn't mean his career is over....It would benifit Alexander to have another RB there next year to help w/ the carries.

He turns 30 in 5 days. What else does last legs mean? Marshall Faulk and Curtis Martin were on their last legs.

And Weaver is supposed to help in spelling SA as well.

I'm sure that RB will be addressed next year as a natural progression but that doesn't have any bearing on this year.

You don't need a true #1 WR. The Pats have never had one, we didn't when Koren was producing. The WCO spreads the ball around.

I think he means last legs as in 'Eddie George last legs', i.e., slower, looks like he's running in mud..George fell to pieces his last few seasons. Faulk burned out , too..Ricky Watters broke down...Rodney Hampton fell apart , and injuries took their toll...Emmitt Smith looked terrible in Az..thats what I think he meant, that SA *could* be like one of the above...

I don't think he knew what he was talking about, just like his age. SA has been the highest scoring back in the league and had one injury shortened season. Lets let him pla real football games first before we stick a fork in him or start comparing him to others. I'm going with 1400+ and 15-17 TDs. His last legs will come but not for a few years.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Who got hurt? What happened?

 

[strong]

Strong:We all know Williamson sucks, but any word on the Vikes actuallly tossing him to the bench??? I've heard they are dedicated to letting him play some this year with his sight restored

Williamson sucks. Could have laid out for bomb in the end zone but barely held his arms out... Moon even commented on it... I'd suggest selecting Rice above Williamson if you're thinking Viking receiver near the end of your deep drafts...

Of course he'll play but I think most of his time will be as the third receiver. Rice saw many more targets and even made one very nice catch all in the first half of the third preseason game, which suggests Rice will be more involved in the Viking offense this year... Williamson is fast and likely to be used as a slot receiver and a burner down the field... but Rice will probably catch more balls this year. I value the Viking receivers like this for 07:WadeRiceWilliamson

 

[killease]

Strong:We all know Williamson sucks, but any word on the Vikes actuallly tossing him to the bench??? I've heard they are dedicated to letting him play some this year with his sight restored

Williamson sucks. Could have laid out for bomb in the end zone but barely held his arms out... Moon even commented on it... I'd suggest selecting Rice above Williamson if you're thinking Viking receiver near the end of your deep drafts...

Of course he'll play but I think most of his time will be as the third receiver. Rice saw many more targets and even made one very nice catch all in the first half of the third preseason game, which suggests Rice will be more involved in the Viking offense this year... Williamson is fast and likely to be used as a slot receiver and a burner down the field... but Rice will probably catch more balls this year. I value the Viking receivers like this for 07:WadeRiceWilliamson

Would you say that Wade's preseason is no fluke? I havent seen him play but his numbers look impressive. I just know nothing about him. Is he worth a waiver wire pickup?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

TD Obomanu. Again.

One to watch... `

 

[Hooper31]

Hackett's still in there. Burleson can't catch worth a damn(haven't seen him yet). Hass has been targeting Engram a lot so far.

Hacket had only the one target on the overthrown fade into the endzone. Pretty much what we expected for Hackett to get more redzone looks.I don't remember Burleson getting any targets in the game, but he did get just as much time in the first half as Hackett. I was very disappointed in Burleson last year, but I get the feeling that his injured hand was a big factor in his downfall last season. It appears to be a non-issue now.If I remember correctly, Branch and Pollard each had three targets in the first half.EDIT: Engram had three first half targets as well.

 

[Hooper31]

TD Obomanu. Again.One to watch... `

Most likely the fifth WR. Won't see the field this year unless multiple injuries happen to the Seattle WR corps (again), but he's certainly one to stash on large dynasty rosters.

 

[strong]

Strong:We all know Williamson sucks, but any word on the Vikes actuallly tossing him to the bench??? I've heard they are dedicated to letting him play some this year with his sight restored

Williamson sucks. Could have laid out for bomb in the end zone but barely held his arms out... Moon even commented on it... I'd suggest selecting Rice above Williamson if you're thinking Viking receiver near the end of your deep drafts...

Of course he'll play but I think most of his time will be as the third receiver. Rice saw many more targets and even made one very nice catch all in the first half of the third preseason game, which suggests Rice will be more involved in the Viking offense this year... Williamson is fast and likely to be used as a slot receiver and a burner down the field... but Rice will probably catch more balls this year. I value the Viking receivers like this for 07:WadeRiceWilliamson

Would you say that Wade's preseason is no fluke? I havent seen him play but his numbers look impressive. I just know nothing about him. Is he worth a waiver wire pickup?

I think he's definitely worth a roster spot in 10 team leagues. And it should only cost a pretty late draft pick. He looked pretty solid today catching some short and longish passes. Certainly was the number one target today and looked pretty comfy in that role. I just don't see Minnesota putting Williamson in the same role and I think he'll be used only for the occasional longebomb routes. And while I don't see any Minnesota receiver excelling for fantasy this year it looks like Wade will be serviceable as a bi-week filler and possibly a solid WR3. I was down on Wade until I watched tonight's game... I was also really impressed by Rice's first catch. It was a tough catch with a solid hit at contact. I would take him as the third, maybe fourth, rookie receiver taken in drafts. I feel pretty confident that he'll outperform Williamson this year.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

TD Obomanu. Again.One to watch... `

Most likely the fifth WR. Won't see the field this year unless multiple injuries happen to the Seattle WR corps (again), but he's certainly one to stash on large dynasty rosters.

Pretty fair assessment, but I think he sees the field on 4-wide sets more often that you might think. He has "big play ability" and can stretch the field. I would see him in 4-wide more often than say Engram on 3rd and long (15+).IDK how he does on ST which will decide if he plays much or is available (or is a game day inactive).

 

[Hooper31]

TD Obomanu. Again.One to watch... `

Most likely the fifth WR. Won't see the field this year unless multiple injuries happen to the Seattle WR corps (again), but he's certainly one to stash on large dynasty rosters.

Pretty fair assessment, but I think he sees the field on 4-wide sets more often that you might think. He has "big play ability" and can stretch the field. I would see him in 4-wide more often than say Engram on 3rd and long (15+).IDK how he does on ST which will decide if he plays much or is available (or is a game day inactive).

I would have some serious doubts about this. Branch, Hackett, Engram, and Burleson are the 4-WR set guys. Holmgren is loyal to his players and pecking order to a fault. The best example I can give you of this was way back in 2001 when Alexander was in his second season. Rickey Watters was the starter, but was injured early in the season. Alexander went off and had a monster year, but the day that Watters was healthy again he was instantly back in the starting lineup (check week 14 against Dallas). I can't imagine any situation where Obomanu is on the field ahead of the first four guys unless someone is injured. That's just not the way Holmgren operates regardless of what appears to be logical.

 

[mad sweeney]

TD Obomanu. Again.One to watch... `

Most likely the fifth WR. Won't see the field this year unless multiple injuries happen to the Seattle WR corps (again), but he's certainly one to stash on large dynasty rosters.

Pretty fair assessment, but I think he sees the field on 4-wide sets more often that you might think. He has "big play ability" and can stretch the field. I would see him in 4-wide more often than say Engram on 3rd and long (15+).IDK how he does on ST which will decide if he plays much or is available (or is a game day inactive).

I would have some serious doubts about this. Branch, Hackett, Engram, and Burleson are the 4-WR set guys. Holmgren is loyal to his players and pecking order to a fault. The best example I can give you of this was way back in 2001 when Alexander was in his second season. Rickey Watters was the starter, but was injured early in the season. Alexander went off and had a monster year, but the day that Watters was healthy again he was instantly back in the starting lineup (check week 14 against Dallas). I can't imagine any situation where Obomanu is on the field ahead of the first four guys unless someone is injured. That's just not the way Holmgren operates regardless of what appears to be logical.

I was at that Dallas game and Ricky got hurt again, giving way to the SA era. (I think, there was a lot of booze involved). I could see Burleson bumped over Engram if anyone. Bobby is Matt's security blanket and he does not play as well when Engram is out. And last year when various WRs were hurt, Hackett saw more time than Nate because Nate stunk it up while Hackett excelled. So Holmie's loyalty only goes so far. I think he learned from sticking with KoRo for so long. If Nate is sucking and Obumanu produces when given the chance, I can see him pushing Nate for playing time. But definitely not Engram.

 

[ImTheScientist]

As a Seahawk fan I must say I really like the defense this year....its actually the offense which worries me. The hawks don't have a TRUE #1 WR. Maybe Hackett can develop into that guy Alexander is on his last legs IMO....I hope the Hawks get some offense in the draft next year.

You're nuts. His last legs? He reported to camp in better condition than in any other camp. He might have started the backside of his career but his last legs won't come for a few more years.

He is 31 ....... I didn't mean his career is over....It would benifit Alexander to have another RB there next year to help w/ the carries.

He turns 30 in 5 days. What else does last legs mean? Marshall Faulk and Curtis Martin were on their last legs.

And Weaver is supposed to help in spelling SA as well.

I'm sure that RB will be addressed next year as a natural progression but that doesn't have any bearing on this year.

You don't need a true #1 WR. The Pats have never had one, we didn't when Koren was producing. The WCO spreads the ball around.

I think he means last legs as in 'Eddie George last legs', i.e., slower, looks like he's running in mud..George fell to pieces his last few seasons. Faulk burned out , too..Ricky Watters broke down...Rodney Hampton fell apart , and injuries took their toll...Emmitt Smith looked terrible in Az..thats what I think he meant, that SA *could* be like one of the above...

I don't think he knew what he was talking about, just like his age. SA has been the highest scoring back in the league and had one injury shortened season. Lets let him pla real football games first before we stick a fork in him or start comparing him to others. I'm going with 1400+ and 15-17 TDs. His last legs will come but not for a few years.

nygaints56 gets it I guess you haven't heard the term before....Im sorry. So I was a year off with his age.....that makes my crap?

10games 252carries 896yards 3.6avg 7 TD's SA's stats from last year. I live in Seattle and watched every seahawk game and he did not look impressive to me.

65 carries 187 yards rushing 2 TD's his numbers pre injury ..... not impressive

I would really question your 1400+ and 15-17TDs.....I would take the under on that for sure.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Mad Sweeney...I also see that you live in LA. The feeling of a lot of Seahawk fans (at least the ones I know) that live in the area is that SA is "on his last legs".

Edit to add: I got this from your Boston thread post, I probably do not need to say much else.

I just had back surgery, haven't worked out a core muscle in 4 months, am high on vicodin and a little puf puf

 

[Penguin]

I could see Burleson bumped over Engram if anyone. Bobby is Matt's security blanket and he does not play as well when Engram is out. And last year when various WRs were hurt, Hackett saw more time than Nate because Nate stunk it up while Hackett excelled. So Holmie's loyalty only goes so far. I think he learned from sticking with KoRo for so long. If Nate is sucking and Obumanu produces when given the chance, I can see him pushing Nate for playing time. But definitely not Engram.

I agree with this. Bobby E. will be involved, that's an automatic. Take him out of the game and Hassleback is not Hassleback.

 

[proninja]

Mad Sweeney...I also see that you live in LA. The feeling of a lot of Seahawk fans (at least the ones I know) that live in the area is that SA is "on his last legs".

Edit to add: I got this from your Boston thread post, I probably do not need to say much else.

I just had back surgery, haven't worked out a core muscle in 4 months, am high on vicodin and a little puf puf

Please, Seattle fans don't need any help looking uneducated, don't help them along, kthx

 

[yinzer]

I haven't seen the game, but this thread has seemingly gone to the SEA WRs and SA...

How bout the battle between ADP and Chester the Molester?

Taylors statline is pretty impressive, about 20 more yards than ADP and 3 less carries..yet all these posts seem to say CT look ordinary while ADP looks powerful and tough to bring down..

...so what is UP?!?

 

[ATRAIN56]

Was there an Andre Allison sighting?

 

[snogger]

I haven't seen the game, but this thread has seemingly gone to the SEA WRs and SA...How bout the battle between ADP and Chester the Molester?Taylors statline is pretty impressive, about 20 more yards than ADP and 3 less carries..yet all these posts seem to say CT look ordinary while ADP looks powerful and tough to bring down.....so what is UP?!?

There is no "battle".. Chester will be the "starter" but Chester and Peterson will play a lot.. I wouldn't be shocked to see each get close to 20 carries a game.. With a young QB they will be running, running and running some more.Jackson looked good for a "rookie". I didn't like his two minute drill at the end of the first half though. He rushed himself at times when it wasn't necessary and threw a couple up for grabs. But overall he looked pretty good. Sure the first snap fumble was But after that he settled down a bit and the best news yet.. no INT's again!! Of all Viking WR's.. Wade is definitely the late sleeper pick.. With a ADP of 198 you should be able to gamble on him as your last pick in a 16 round draft...

 

[FunkyPlutos]

My Viking notes:

I have been surprised a bit by how little the Vikings have targeted Williamson the past two weeks. He only had the one deep ball thrown to him last night and one slant pattern that didn't make it half way to him. He looked great the first week on short to intermediate routes - the deep ball isn't his game - and don't understand why they haven't gotten him involved more.

Wade looked excellent and could surprise this year. I don't want to make the comparison but will - reminds me a bit of Steve Smith (Panthers). He doesn't have the speed of Smith but is a returner who is being turned into a "main guy" and has some open field skills, so that is why I mention the comparison to Smith.

I was impressed with Rice - Jackson needs to learn to underthrow the deep ball to him. Just let him jump up and get it. He showed good hands, but needs to work on route running in order to be a big factor.

The Viking running game is fine, although I thought Birk struggled a bit last night, so I hope it was just a bad game. As much as I LOVE Peterson, I have a feeling Chester will get more carries than I thought when they drafted Peterson - I have a gut feeling it is going to be 60-40 in favor of AD.

Defense played ok given the short fields that the offense and special teams put them in.

The special teams looks AWFUL - they better fix it quickly!!

 

[mad sweeney]

As a Seahawk fan I must say I really like the defense this year....its actually the offense which worries me. The hawks don't have a TRUE #1 WR. Maybe Hackett can develop into that guy Alexander is on his last legs IMO....I hope the Hawks get some offense in the draft next year.

You're nuts. His last legs? He reported to camp in better condition than in any other camp. He might have started the backside of his career but his last legs won't come for a few more years.

He is 31 ....... I didn't mean his career is over....It would benifit Alexander to have another RB there next year to help w/ the carries.

He turns 30 in 5 days. What else does last legs mean? Marshall Faulk and Curtis Martin were on their last legs.

And Weaver is supposed to help in spelling SA as well.

I'm sure that RB will be addressed next year as a natural progression but that doesn't have any bearing on this year.

You don't need a true #1 WR. The Pats have never had one, we didn't when Koren was producing. The WCO spreads the ball around.

I think he means last legs as in 'Eddie George last legs', i.e., slower, looks like he's running in mud..George fell to pieces his last few seasons. Faulk burned out , too..Ricky Watters broke down...Rodney Hampton fell apart , and injuries took their toll...Emmitt Smith looked terrible in Az..thats what I think he meant, that SA *could* be like one of the above...

I don't think he knew what he was talking about, just like his age. SA has been the highest scoring back in the league and had one injury shortened season. Lets let him pla real football games first before we stick a fork in him or start comparing him to others. I'm going with 1400+ and 15-17 TDs. His last legs will come but not for a few years.

nygaints56 gets it I guess you haven't heard the term before....Im sorry. So I was a year off with his age.....that makes my crap?

10games 252carries 896yards 3.6avg 7 TD's SA's stats from last year. I live in Seattle and watched every seahawk game and he did not look impressive to me.

65 carries 187 yards rushing 2 TD's his numbers pre injury ..... not impressive

I would really question your 1400+ and 15-17TDs.....I would take the under on that for sure.

Who did look impressive last year?It is my firm belief that Walter Jones was hurt early in the Detroit game and wasn't quite the same as he usually is, Rogerrs tore him up and he was limping by the end of the first half. SA was hurt in Detroit as well but tried to play for 3 more weeks on a broken foot. There was no consistency in the line. Nearly every week there was a different combo of linemen up there. So of course his pre-hiatus numbers are going to be down due to his injury and the line. His post hiatus numbers come after most of the offense was injured and we still didn't field the same line week to week. Even Chris Gray finally missed time after a hundred something starts. In short, there were a lot of factors in SA's underwhelming performance last year. With some line consistency and a healthy Hasselbeck I see no reason why he can't achieve the same numbers he has every year he was a starter.

I too have watched every game Alexander has played and he needs a good line for him to achieve success, he's not the type to turn something out of nothing. So if he doesn't live up to my projections it will be because the line was not able to stay healthy, not because "31" year old SA is on his Last Legs.

I have heard the term before and I suppose our definitions are a little different. Last legs to me means exactly that, LAST. As in end of the line, a faded star. And Alexander is still far from his last legs.

 

[mad sweeney]

Mad Sweeney...I also see that you live in LA. The feeling of a lot of Seahawk fans (at least the ones I know) that live in the area is that SA is "on his last legs".

Edit to add: I got this from your Boston thread post, I probably do not need to say much else.

I just had back surgery, haven't worked out a core muscle in 4 months, am high on vicodin and a little puf puf

So I was a year off with his age.....that makes my crap?

I feel humbled by my chemically induced stupor. But at least I don't call 29 year old RBs 31 as proof of my claims and I proof read most of my posts. What's your excuse?I don't have any idea what your first sentence even means. We LA fans all think alike? Seems to me like the Seattle native is the one down on SA, not the LA guy.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

My Viking notes:

I have been surprised a bit by how little the Vikings have targeted Williamson the past two weeks. He only had the one deep ball thrown to him last night and one slant pattern that didn't make it half way to him. He looked great the first week on short to intermediate routes - the deep ball isn't his game - and don't understand why they haven't gotten him involved more.

Wade looked excellent and could surprise this year. I don't want to make the comparison but will - reminds me a bit of Steve Smith (Panthers). He doesn't have the speed of Smith but is a returner who is being turned into a "main guy" and has some open field skills, so that is why I mention the comparison to Smith.

I was impressed with Rice - Jackson needs to learn to underthrow the deep ball to him. Just let him jump up and get it. He showed good hands, but needs to work on route running in order to be a big factor.

The Viking running game is fine, although I thought Birk struggled a bit last night, so I hope it was just a bad game. As much as I LOVE Peterson, I have a feeling Chester will get more carries than I thought when they drafted Peterson - I have a gut feeling it is going to be 60-40 in favor of AD.

Defense played ok given the short fields that the offense and special teams put them in.

The special teams looks AWFUL - they better fix it quickly!!

I fell for this as a Bears homer in 03 and 04, just warning you to temper your expectations.. Like you said he does not posses the speed which is what distinguishes Smith from guys like Wade. Is Wade going to be returning kicks for the Vikes this year also?

 

[ratpfink]

I just watched this on DVR. The only thing I can add is that it's pretty awful when the local Seattle affiliate can't even get the opposing teams starting QB's name correct.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

In case anyone didn't notice, Bobby Wade has more touchdown passes than Tarvaris this preseason.

 

[WarRedbirds]

As a Seahawk fan I must say I really like the defense this year....its actually the offense which worries me. The hawks don't have a TRUE #1 WR. Maybe Hackett can develop into that guy Alexander is on his last legs IMO....I hope the Hawks get some offense in the draft next year.

You're nuts. His last legs? He reported to camp in better condition than in any other camp. He might have started the backside of his career but his last legs won't come for a few more years.

He is 31 ....... I didn't mean his career is over....It would benifit Alexander to have another RB there next year to help w/ the carries.

He turns 30 in 5 days. What else does last legs mean? Marshall Faulk and Curtis Martin were on their last legs.

And Weaver is supposed to help in spelling SA as well.

I'm sure that RB will be addressed next year as a natural progression but that doesn't have any bearing on this year.

You don't need a true #1 WR. The Pats have never had one, we didn't when Koren was producing. The WCO spreads the ball around.

I think he means last legs as in 'Eddie George last legs', i.e., slower, looks like he's running in mud..George fell to pieces his last few seasons. Faulk burned out , too..Ricky Watters broke down...Rodney Hampton fell apart , and injuries took their toll...Emmitt Smith looked terrible in Az..thats what I think he meant, that SA *could* be like one of the above...

I don't think he knew what he was talking about, just like his age. SA has been the highest scoring back in the league and had one injury shortened season. Lets let him pla real football games first before we stick a fork in him or start comparing him to others. I'm going with 1400+ and 15-17 TDs. His last legs will come but not for a few years.

nygaints56 gets it I guess you haven't heard the term before....Im sorry. So I was a year off with his age.....that makes my crap?

10games 252carries 896yards 3.6avg 7 TD's SA's stats from last year. I live in Seattle and watched every seahawk game and he did not look impressive to me.

65 carries 187 yards rushing 2 TD's his numbers pre injury ..... not impressive

I would really question your 1400+ and 15-17TDs.....I would take the under on that for sure.

Who did look impressive last year?It is my firm belief that Walter Jones was hurt early in the Detroit game and wasn't quite the same as he usually is, Rogerrs tore him up and he was limping by the end of the first half. SA was hurt in Detroit as well but tried to play for 3 more weeks on a broken foot. There was no consistency in the line. Nearly every week there was a different combo of linemen up there. So of course his pre-hiatus numbers are going to be down due to his injury and the line. His post hiatus numbers come after most of the offense was injured and we still didn't field the same line week to week. Even Chris Gray finally missed time after a hundred something starts. In short, there were a lot of factors in SA's underwhelming performance last year. With some line consistency and a healthy Hasselbeck I see no reason why he can't achieve the same numbers he has every year he was a starter.

I too have watched every game Alexander has played and he needs a good line for him to achieve success, he's not the type to turn something out of nothing. So if he doesn't live up to my projections it will be because the line was not able to stay healthy, not because "31" year old SA is on his Last Legs.

I have heard the term before and I suppose our definitions are a little different. Last legs to me means exactly that, LAST. As in end of the line, a faded star. And Alexander is still far from his last legs.

From a Seahawks blog:

By John Morgan • Game Recap

Posted on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 12:17:30 AM EDT

* Josh Wilson is faster than you.

* Nate Burleson is faster than you.

* Shaun Alexander is not. He looked somewhere between lead footed and serviceable. The one thing he still does well is read defenses and his blockers, because of that he continues to be a better goal line/10+ threat. However, Morris is the more efficient rusher; he gets what is often termed "positive yards". Morris is the better receiver and pass blocker--to wit he's earned 40+% of the carries. Barring injury, he won't get them.

Reactions??? Is this what everyone else saw?

 

[mad sweeney]

As a Seahawk fan I must say I really like the defense this year....its actually the offense which worries me. The hawks don't have a TRUE #1 WR. Maybe Hackett can develop into that guy Alexander is on his last legs IMO....I hope the Hawks get some offense in the draft next year.

You're nuts. His last legs? He reported to camp in better condition than in any other camp. He might have started the backside of his career but his last legs won't come for a few more years.

He is 31 ....... I didn't mean his career is over....It would benifit Alexander to have another RB there next year to help w/ the carries.

He turns 30 in 5 days. What else does last legs mean? Marshall Faulk and Curtis Martin were on their last legs.

And Weaver is supposed to help in spelling SA as well.

I'm sure that RB will be addressed next year as a natural progression but that doesn't have any bearing on this year.

You don't need a true #1 WR. The Pats have never had one, we didn't when Koren was producing. The WCO spreads the ball around.

I think he means last legs as in 'Eddie George last legs', i.e., slower, looks like he's running in mud..George fell to pieces his last few seasons. Faulk burned out , too..Ricky Watters broke down...Rodney Hampton fell apart , and injuries took their toll...Emmitt Smith looked terrible in Az..thats what I think he meant, that SA *could* be like one of the above...

I don't think he knew what he was talking about, just like his age. SA has been the highest scoring back in the league and had one injury shortened season. Lets let him pla real football games first before we stick a fork in him or start comparing him to others. I'm going with 1400+ and 15-17 TDs. His last legs will come but not for a few years.

nygaints56 gets it I guess you haven't heard the term before....Im sorry. So I was a year off with his age.....that makes my crap?

10games 252carries 896yards 3.6avg 7 TD's SA's stats from last year. I live in Seattle and watched every seahawk game and he did not look impressive to me.

65 carries 187 yards rushing 2 TD's his numbers pre injury ..... not impressive

I would really question your 1400+ and 15-17TDs.....I would take the under on that for sure.

Who did look impressive last year?It is my firm belief that Walter Jones was hurt early in the Detroit game and wasn't quite the same as he usually is, Rogerrs tore him up and he was limping by the end of the first half. SA was hurt in Detroit as well but tried to play for 3 more weeks on a broken foot. There was no consistency in the line. Nearly every week there was a different combo of linemen up there. So of course his pre-hiatus numbers are going to be down due to his injury and the line. His post hiatus numbers come after most of the offense was injured and we still didn't field the same line week to week. Even Chris Gray finally missed time after a hundred something starts. In short, there were a lot of factors in SA's underwhelming performance last year. With some line consistency and a healthy Hasselbeck I see no reason why he can't achieve the same numbers he has every year he was a starter.

I too have watched every game Alexander has played and he needs a good line for him to achieve success, he's not the type to turn something out of nothing. So if he doesn't live up to my projections it will be because the line was not able to stay healthy, not because "31" year old SA is on his Last Legs.

I have heard the term before and I suppose our definitions are a little different. Last legs to me means exactly that, LAST. As in end of the line, a faded star. And Alexander is still far from his last legs.

From a Seahawks blog:

By John Morgan • Game Recap

Posted on Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 12:17:30 AM EDT

* Josh Wilson is faster than you.

* Nate Burleson is faster than you.

* Shaun Alexander is not. He looked somewhere between lead footed and serviceable. The one thing he still does well is read defenses and his blockers, because of that he continues to be a better goal line/10+ threat. However, Morris is the more efficient rusher; he gets what is often termed "positive yards". Morris is the better receiver and pass blocker--to wit he's earned 40+% of the carries. Barring injury, he won't get them.

Reactions??? Is this what everyone else saw?

Like the Caveman says, Uh, what?".

 

[WarRedbirds]

Here's another reaction (and quite the opposite):

Promising notes on offense:

Shaun Alexander may not have the same success running inside that he had in '05, due to a weaker line, but his outside running appears to be as strong as ever. A big concern was whether or not Alexander had lost his burst after an injury-marred 2006, but he appeared to be as quick as ever - certainly faster than in '06 - when he bounced a couple of runs outside.

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[rundave]

I watched this game yesterday and I'll list a few observations.

Hasselbeck looked great, I wouldn't hesitate to take him as a QB1 or 2 where he is being drafted.

Engram could be useful in PPR leagues.

Alexander looked good. He could be good at his ADP. The problem with him is the Ravens in week 16.

The Hawks look like they want to use Pollard. Maybe Holmgren finally has his tight end.

Both Taylor and Peterson looked good. Unless Peterson does great and becomes the primary carrier, it looks like RBBC to me. In this game, Peterson looked about twice as fast as Chester but I thought Peterson went down pretty easy on contact while Taylor was tough to bring down.

Jackson looked good on the short throws. The Vikes went deep quite a few times and Jackson was not accurate at all on those.

Wade looks like the WR to get in Minnesota and should be good value.