Selling pieces for the WSOP $10,000 Main Event (1 Viewer)

[Sweet J]

Re: Assani's Exit:

First hand back...LJ makes it 10k at 2/4, I 24k on BTN w/AKos, he puts me all in for 150k...his TQos > my AK

He's in for 24k with 125k behind calling into a pot of ~$175k-ish right? That seems pretty aggressive to call a 3 bet with AKo here.. unless there's some sort of read we're not privy to? Certainly AF is a 100x better player than I am.... and he did indeed get his money in as a favorite here (albeit not a huge one). He was still sitting on 31BB.... not a ton but certainly not do or die territory. Guessing maybe LJ had a large stack and Assani (correctly) read it as leaning on his smaller stack?

Just curious for some insight on the play from players better than I.

I was wondering the same thing. He wasn't in desperation mode. Struck me as a weird call.

It ended up being an OK call based on his opponent's hand, but still a weird call.

How would you guys play it? If you're routinely folding superior hands any time someone comes over the top you won't last long. Can't just sit and wait for aces the whole time.

Also could be many other factors involved with that decision. Perhaps villain was routinely bullying the table with marginal hands. His QT could have easily been KT or AJ or any other number of dominated hands.

I'm not here to criticize, but just responding to Uni. The call wasn't the thing that stuck out for me as much as repopping from 10k to 24k, which essentially begs an all-in push from the Villain. Once villain goes all-in preflop, I can see the call. But depending on how close he was to the button, the issue is whether he wants to get all his chips in with that hand. Maybe so.

 

[r0llin_game]

I get in AK there easily. He's jamming frequently enough where it's profitable to 3 bet/call off, especially with such a hand as strong as AK. I'd be fine getting AK in for 35-40 bigs pre too. If this villain is pretty active in pre, then we're printing money by 3b/calling all the time. The only awful scenario is of him having AA here. Even with him having KK, we're only a hit more than a 2:1 dog. 3b/folding AK vs. someone active is awful as we should be 3 betting for value. We are flipping here quite a bit of the time. Only hands mathematically we hate him showing up with are AA/KK as well. There's still times where this guy could be 4 bet shoving ATs-AQo, KQs as well. Makes it a pretty easy call off. I'd have to put poker stove on my iPad, off the numbers, we'd need 40-42% equity at the very worst for this to be a profitable call.

 

[UniAlias]

Re: Assani's Exit:

First hand back...LJ makes it 10k at 2/4, I 24k on BTN w/AKos, he puts me all in for 150k...his TQos > my AK

He's in for 24k with 125k behind calling into a pot of ~$175k-ish right? That seems pretty aggressive to call a 3 bet with AKo here.. unless there's some sort of read we're not privy to? Certainly AF is a 100x better player than I am.... and he did indeed get his money in as a favorite here (albeit not a huge one). He was still sitting on 31BB.... not a ton but certainly not do or die territory. Guessing maybe LJ had a large stack and Assani (correctly) read it as leaning on his smaller stack?

Just curious for some insight on the play from players better than I.

I was wondering the same thing. He wasn't in desperation mode. Struck me as a weird call.

It ended up being an OK call based on his opponent's hand, but still a weird call.

How would you guys play it? If you're routinely folding superior hands any time someone comes over the top you won't last long. Can't just sit and wait for aces the whole time.Also could be many other factors involved with that decision. Perhaps villain was routinely bullying the table with marginal hands. His QT could have easily been KT or AJ or any other number of dominated hands.

I'm not here to criticize, but just responding to Uni. The call wasn't the thing that stuck out for me as much as repopping from 10k to 24k, which essentially begs an all-in push from the Villain. Once villain goes all-in preflop, I can see the call. But depending on how close he was to the button, the issue is whether he wants to get all his chips in with that hand. Maybe so.

Agree. 24k basically a minraise. I think a bigger raise preflop (40k-ish) shows that you're prepared to commit your stack and takes away the aggressive counter-play/forces a much harder decision for villain. If you run into AA/KK just unfortunate luck.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Lojack

SB

BB

UTG this should be jack

UTG+1 this should be Jackoff

UTG+2 this should be FreeJack

lojack

Hijack

Cutoff

Button

Thanks That's pretty wonky jargon (I've enhanced it above).

-QG

 

[FairWarning]

GL Rollin. Was hoping to meet up with you in LV this summer but had to cancel.

 

[r0llin_game]

GL Rollin. Was hoping to meet up with you in LV this summer but had to cancel.

:(

 

[Detroit Fan 365]

Good Luck in the Main Event, here's to hoping you make it far.

 

[Zegras11]

Played many high stakes FF leagues and tournaments with Rob... 319 left..

7/11/2014 11:14:02 PM PST (about 4 minutes ago)


Updated Chip Counts from Table 392


Cristian Rotondo 820,000 140,000

Robert Zarzycki 746,000 532,500

John Gorsuch 675,000 -298,000

Domyo Aqmelli 238,000 -332,000

John Andress 166,000 -69,000

Jon Turner 118,000 -205,000

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Re: Assani's Exit:

First hand back...LJ makes it 10k at 2/4, I 24k on BTN w/AKos, he puts me all in for 150k...his TQos > my AK

He's in for 24k with 125k behind calling into a pot of ~$175k-ish right? That seems pretty aggressive to call a 3 bet with AKo here.. unless there's some sort of read we're not privy to? Certainly AF is a 100x better player than I am.... and he did indeed get his money in as a favorite here (albeit not a huge one). He was still sitting on 31BB.... not a ton but certainly not do or die territory. Guessing maybe LJ had a large stack and Assani (correctly) read it as leaning on his smaller stack?

Just curious for some insight on the play from players better than I.

I was wondering the same thing. He wasn't in desperation mode. Struck me as a weird call.

It ended up being an OK call based on his opponent's hand, but still a weird call.

How would you guys play it? If you're routinely folding superior hands any time someone comes over the top you won't last long. Can't just sit and wait for aces the whole time.Also could be many other factors involved with that decision. Perhaps villain was routinely bullying the table with marginal hands. His QT could have easily been KT or AJ or any other number of dominated hands.

I'm not here to criticize, but just responding to Uni. The call wasn't the thing that stuck out for me as much as repopping from 10k to 24k, which essentially begs an all-in push from the Villain. Once villain goes all-in preflop, I can see the call. But depending on how close he was to the button, the issue is whether he wants to get all his chips in with that hand. Maybe so.

Agree. 24k basically a minraise. I think a bigger raise preflop (40k-ish) shows that you're prepared to commit your stack and takes away the aggressive counter-play/forces a much harder decision for villain. If you run into AA/KK just unfortunate luck.

i think assani was baiting the guy to go all-in. hard not to follow through once you entice the guy to go all-in and they do it.

 

[ZenMaster]

My friends and I put together a 10-tournament series over the past year to send someone to the Main Event. This was our 2nd year doing it - last year our guy went out on Day 2.

This year our guy made it to Day 5 and finished 285th for $38,634. He keeps 50% and the rest is split among everyone else who participated.

 

[Zegras11]

Played many high stakes FF leagues and tournaments with Rob... 319 left..

7/11/2014 11:14:02 PM PST (about 4 minutes ago)


Updated Chip Counts from Table 392


Cristian Rotondo 820,000 140,000

Robert Zarzycki 746,000 532,500

John Gorsuch 675,000 -298,000

Domyo Aqmelli 238,000 -332,000

John Andress 166,000 -69,000

Jon Turner 118,000 -205,000

First hand today Rob wins 400K. Over a mil.

 

[Otis]

Played many high stakes FF leagues and tournaments with Rob... 319 left..

7/11/2014 11:14:02 PM PST (about 4 minutes ago)


Updated Chip Counts from Table 392


Cristian Rotondo 820,000 140,000

Robert Zarzycki 746,000 532,500

John Gorsuch 675,000 -298,000

Domyo Aqmelli 238,000 -332,000

John Andress 166,000 -69,000

Jon Turner 118,000 -205,000

First hand today Rob wins 400K. Over a mil.

Damn. Doesn't he post here under Zman, or Zmanzz, or something like that?

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Played many high stakes FF leagues and tournaments with Rob... 319 left..

7/11/2014 11:14:02 PM PST (about 4 minutes ago)


Updated Chip Counts from Table 392


Cristian Rotondo 820,000 140,000

Robert Zarzycki 746,000 532,500

John Gorsuch 675,000 -298,000

Domyo Aqmelli 238,000 -332,000

John Andress 166,000 -69,000

Jon Turner 118,000 -205,000

First hand today Rob wins 400K. Over a mil.

Damn. Doesn't he post here under Zman, or Zmanzz, or something like that?

if he's the guy i'm thinking of there were some epic posts involving him. He took a beating.

 

[Zegras11]

Played many high stakes FF leagues and tournaments with Rob... 319 left..

7/11/2014 11:14:02 PM PST (about 4 minutes ago)


Updated Chip Counts from Table 392


Cristian Rotondo 820,000 140,000

Robert Zarzycki 746,000 532,500

John Gorsuch 675,000 -298,000

Domyo Aqmelli 238,000 -332,000

John Andress 166,000 -69,000

Jon Turner 118,000 -205,000

First hand today Rob wins 400K. Over a mil.

Damn. Doesn't he post here under Zman, or Zmanzz, or something like that?

don't know....

214 left.. he's at 114th with 710000

 

[Otis]

Played many high stakes FF leagues and tournaments with Rob... 319 left..

7/11/2014 11:14:02 PM PST (about 4 minutes ago)


Updated Chip Counts from Table 392


Cristian Rotondo 820,000 140,000

Robert Zarzycki 746,000 532,500

John Gorsuch 675,000 -298,000

Domyo Aqmelli 238,000 -332,000

John Andress 166,000 -69,000

Jon Turner 118,000 -205,000

First hand today Rob wins 400K. Over a mil.

Damn. Doesn't he post here under Zman, or Zmanzz, or something like that?

if he's the guy i'm thinking of there were some epic posts involving him. He took a beating.

Pretty sure it's the same guy.

 

[Otis]

Yup.

 

[r0llin_game]

Still have two friends left. Zachary Hirst and Mike Aron!

 

[NIU Kicker]

Don't look now... 195 left and Phil Ivey is in first.

 

[Zegras11]

Don't look now... 195 left and Phil Ivey is in first.

 

[tjnc09]

Don't look now... 195 left and Phil Ivey is in first.

You sure?

 

[derek245583]

Don't look now... 195 left and Phil Ivey is in first.

You sure?

Nope, I didnt look

 

[Mario Kart]

Played many high stakes FF leagues and tournaments with Rob... 319 left..

7/11/2014 11:14:02 PM PST (about 4 minutes ago)

Updated Chip Counts from Table 392

Cristian Rotondo 820,000 140,000

Robert Zarzycki 746,000 532,500

John Gorsuch 675,000 -298,000

Domyo Aqmelli 238,000 -332,000

John Andress 166,000 -69,000

Jon Turner 118,000 -205,000

First hand today Rob wins 400K. Over a mil.

Damn. Doesn't he post here under Zman, or Zmanzz, or something like that?

if he's the guy i'm thinking of there were some epic posts involving him. He took a beating.

Pretty sure it's the same guy.

Wasn't he the poster (a person, typically a guy) going to write (an art form but mostly used for communication) a book (something you read) explaining Texas Hold'em (poker game when you are dealt two cards to begin)?

 

[Steve Tasker]

I get in AK there easily. He's jamming frequently enough where it's profitable to 3 bet/call off, especially with such a hand as strong as AK. I'd be fine getting AK in for 35-40 bigs pre too. If this villain is pretty active in pre, then we're printing money by 3b/calling all the time. The only awful scenario is of him having AA here. Even with him having KK, we're only a hit more than a 2:1 dog. 3b/folding AK vs. someone active is awful as we should be 3 betting for value. We are flipping here quite a bit of the time. Only hands mathematically we hate him showing up with are AA/KK as well. There's still times where this guy could be 4 bet shoving ATs-AQo, KQs as well. Makes it a pretty easy call off. I'd have to put poker stove on my iPad, off the numbers, we'd need 40-42% equity at the very worst for this to be a profitable call.

I have absolutely no idea what any of this means. It's like reading Greek.

 

[Zegras11]

154 left.

Rob has 455k chips..23 BB

Looks like he's being very patient here. Two double ups and he's in the top 20

 

[Zegras11]

out at 148 for $52k

 

[Otis]

out at 148 for $52k

Not bad.

 

[bentley]

What an unsufferable ### that guy was during his short run in the FFA. Praise Jeebus he's out.

 

[TheGooRoo]

What an unsufferable ### that guy was during his short run in the FFA. Praise Jeebus he's out.

According to his pokerpages, "Mr. Zarzycki is the top ranked fantasy football expert in the nation, having won a number of prestigious sports league contests...". Maybe you guys should have done more listening and less debating.