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Senior Bowl - 10 Players That Left Me With Doubts (1 Viewer)

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Same drill as the other thread - these aren't the ONLY players that left me with doubts, just the guys whose ?s stood out the most. This is all based on the game, so OF COURSE i'm blowing things out of proportion - but these are the feelings these guys left me with:Orien Harris, DT, Miami - got good pressure once, but for the most part was swallowed up by OLineman. Unlike Kyle Williams, Jesse Mahelona, and Dusty Dvoracek, who kept fighting and made plays with their motor even when beaten on the line, Harris was basically a non-factor once he was stopped at the point of attack.Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona St - Derek, you're supposed to be the ultra-dependable WR. Those drops were inexcusable.Demeco Ryans, LB, Alabama - Ryans looked slow and not very athletic. His determination allowed him to fight through some blocks to make tackles, but his presence was barely felt and definitely not one of an elite LB prospect.Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa - Didnt appear to play very physical or very fast out there. Like Ryans, I was expecting this elite LB prospect to jump out at me in run support and coverage, and was left disappointed, although unlike Ryans, the reports in practice about Greenway were glowing.Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn - Got beat horribly on the play where he ended up catching the ball. Only Toeaina was less impressive among the OTs, and he was considered a marginal prospect coming in. He could still develop into a bookend LT with that frame, but I didnt any signs of it in the Senior Bowl.Brodie Croyle, QB, Alabama - Really overthrew a wide open Moss on the TD, only a spectacular individual play by Moss made that a score. Not strong enough to hang in the pocket. Good footwork, but doesnt always use it. Seemed rattled after he took a couple of sacks.Greg Blue, S, Georgia - seemed slow and not instinctive at all. Didnt get to see his big hitting ability. Totally outplayed by Roman Harper and Jahmile Addae among the safeties, and stood out less than guys like Bullocks, Smith, Watkins. Cedric Griffin, DB, Texas - Sure he made a spectacular play on the INT, but the rest of the game, he was playing way too safe in coverage, letting guys make catches in front of him. Cedric also seemed meek while tackling.Spencer Havner, LB, UCLA - just stunk it up out there. Got completely taken out of plays by blockers at the second level, took bad angles, didn't finish his tackles, and looked like he couldn't hang with these guys.Travis Williams, LB, Auburn - Williams was getting caught up in traffic, pushed around by anyone who got their hands on him, and showing poor tackling skills all day. Even when had a chance to make a huge play by diagnosing a screen pass, he overran it.

 
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Agree with most of this. I thought Greenway looked spectacular chasing down Moss. Have to watch again, but it seemed like they were the fastest players on the field and Greenway covered a lot of ground to get there. Maybe I'm too impressed by Griffin's pick. It was sweet. McNeill really had a bad week. He had a death in the family and was apparently very distracted. Not sure if it's a valid excuse, but there you have it.Havner should have been in the Hula Bowl. He showed why my Bruins had on of the worst run defenses in the country. Good stuff.

 
One might question...what do you suppose Favre looked like at this point?
good point, but i believe people are referring to a more seasoned brett favre than the one that came out of miss st with a big arm, little discipline, and :banned: on his mind
 
Travis Wilson Where was this guy during the game?

Martin Nance same question

 
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Travis Wilson Where was this guy during the game?

Martin Nance same question
With the exception of Moss :thumbup: and Hagan :no: , none of the WRs got targetted enough to get a good look at them. I was really impressed by Wilson's hands and athleticism in the practice coverage. Nance seemed too tentative for a such a big guy. Stovall passed him and Baskett among the "big WRs" this week.
 
Travis Wilson Where was this guy during the game?

Martin Nance same question
I didn't even see Travis get a target in the game, though it's possible I missed something through all those tears of laughter generated by the QB play on Saturday. Poor Travis Wilson. He had Rhett "Frankly my dear, I don't throw worth a damn" Bomar lobbing him passes at his feet all year and then he gets stuck with one of the worst crops of senior bowl QBs ever. He made the only positive OU play in the UCLA/OU tilt this year, though, running in a reverse for a long TD. He's a strong, tall kid with nice hands. And as Bloom says, the practice reports were very solid. Nice sleeper.

 
Travis Wilson Where was this guy during the game?

Martin Nance same question
With the exception of Moss :thumbup: and Hagan :no: , none of the WRs got targetted enough to get a good look at them. I was really impressed by Wilson's hands and athleticism in the practice coverage. Nance seemed too tentative for a such a big guy. Stovall passed him and Baskett among the "big WRs" this week.
This is one reason that I hated to see Michael Robinson running the offense so much for the North. Does anyone think that he has a real shot at being an NFL QB? If not, it's really not fair to the WRs, TEs and RBs of the North to let him play so much at QB.
 
This is one reason that I hated to see Michael Robinson running the offense so much for the North. Does anyone think that he has a real shot at being an NFL QB? If not, it's really not fair to the WRs, TEs and RBs of the North to let him play so much at QB.
About as much of a chance as Brad Smith from Missouri. How does the only QB in NCAA history with 8,000 pass yds and 4,000 rush yds (Smith) NOT get invited to the Senior Bowl? Because he has so far refused to move to WR were most project him. So why does Robinson get so much clock at QB? I can't figure it out.
 
In what could be a poor year for WRs, having almost no good QBs in the game made it even less possible to scout them.

 
I watched most of the AZ state games this year, and I have to say, I never fell in love with Hagan's pro potential.

 
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I watched most of the AZ state games this year, and I have to say, I never fell in love with Hagan's pro potential.
Agreed. Never understood why the announcers kept hyping the guy. Hes good, but looks more like a late 1st day pick, than late first round.
 
Demeco Ryans, LB, Alabama - Ryans looked slow and not very athletic. His determination allowed him to fight through some blocks to make tackles, but his presence was barely felt and definitely not one of an elite LB prospect.
interesting....was going back to look at how guys were hyped last year and saw this little tid bit.
 
Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn - Got beat horribly on the play where he ended up catching the ball. Only Toeaina was less impressive among the OTs, and he was considered a marginal prospect coming in. He could still develop into a bookend LT with that frame, but I didnt any signs of it in the Senior Bowl.
This is the one that caught my attention. First year All-Pro. IMO this clearly demonstrates how "inexact" this science really is.
 

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