Shanahan.. Seriously? (1 Viewer)

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

It's sad that you don't know why your fan base has such a bad reputation.

It's sad that you buy into this little spin that the national media likes to put on Philly.

I've spent time in quite a few major cities (as many have) and one of the things I like to do is listen to the local sports talk stations to get a feel for the fanbase. I understand that sports talk is like recess for special needs children, but each city is a little bit different. And Philadelphia was one of the more bizarre and ignorant (and entertaining) radio experiences I've heard. Buffalo is also pretty bad and Florida cities don't seem to care about anything. But Philly is in a class by itself. Yes, the media puts out a lot of smoke regarding Philly; maybe too much. But there's definitely a little fire there.

 

[Amused to Death]

It's sad that you don't know why your fan base has such a bad reputation.

It's sad that you buy into this little spin that the national media likes to put on Philly.

I've spent time in quite a few major cities (as many have) and one of the things I like to do is listen to the local sports talk stations to get a feel for the fanbase. I understand that sports talk is like recess for special needs children, but each city is a little bit different. And Philadelphia was one of the more bizarre and ignorant (and entertaining) radio experiences I've heard. Buffalo is also pretty bad and Florida cities don't seem to care about anything. But Philly is in a class by itself. Yes, the media puts out a lot of smoke regarding Philly; maybe too much. But there's definitely a little fire there.

Regardless what the Philly talk radio is like, or what the fanbase's rep is the fact remains that the fans were called "unappreciative" of McNabb after some of us were glad to see him go. Now another team has him for half a season and the same complaints are heard. Will Shanny be labeled "unappreciative"?

 

[jojoh07]

This is vintage Shanahan. I am starting to remember why Pat Bowlen fired him now.

Yeah that was a genius move . your organization is on the right path

 

[bleedgreen]

I've spent time in quite a few major cities (as many have) and one of the things I like to do is listen to the local sports talk stations to get a feel for the fanbase. I understand that sports talk is like recess for special needs children, but each city is a little bit different. And Philadelphia was one of the more bizarre and ignorant (and entertaining) radio experiences I've heard. Buffalo is also pretty bad and Florida cities don't seem to care about anything. But Philly is in a class by itself. Yes, the media puts out a lot of smoke regarding Philly; maybe too much. But there's definitely a little fire there.

The only other sports radio I've heard is WFAN in new york. I remember thinking the same thing about them. A lot depends on the time of day and the host too. Fair enough point, there might be a little fire there...we are an "interesting" city. It probably didn't help that Eagles fans booed Santa and pelted him with snowballs during a half time.

 

[tangfoot]

Your post is so true. Not sure why Philly fans get such disrespect.

Some say "disrespect", others say "truth".

LOL You're from Detroit. They would probably burn their city to ground if they won a championship.

They regularly burn down parts of the city and they've never won a Superbowl.

 

[fatness]

Regardless what the Philly talk radio is like, or what the fanbase's rep is the fact remains that the fans were called "unappreciative" of McNabb after some of us were glad to see him go. Now another team has him for half a season and the same complaints are heard.

It's the same Philly fans making those same complaints.

 

[Amused to Death]

Regardless what the Philly talk radio is like, or what the fanbase's rep is the fact remains that the fans were called "unappreciative" of McNabb after some of us were glad to see him go. Now another team has him for half a season and the same complaints are heard.

It's the same Philly fans making those same complaints.

Now you're making stuff up. There's a reason Shanahan benched him (and it wasn't because he thought Rex was a better option) and there's a reason Shanahan pointed out McNabb's mechanical flaws. Shanahan has no faith in McNabb and as Dungy pointed out, this is a move made because the coach is thinking of a QB change. And you don't do that if you have confidence in your QB. Eagles fans lost confidence in McNabb a few seasons ago.Eagles fans didn't just bench McNabb in favor of Rex. Donovan's head coach did.

 

[fatness]

You don't read what you say. Let me help:

the fans were called "unappreciative" of McNabb after some of us were glad to see him go. Now another team has him for half a season and the same complaints are heard.

There are no complaints about Redskin fans being unappreciative.It's just the same old same old Eagles fans who wanted to run him out of Philly, because he got them too close to that Super Bowl they've never had.

 

[fatness]

Eagles fans didn't just bench McNabb in favor of Rex. Donovan's head coach did.

So you're siding with Shanahan here, saying he did the right thing.How did it work out?

 

[Amused to Death]

You don't read what you say. Let me help:

the fans were called "unappreciative" of McNabb after some of us were glad to see him go. Now another team has him for half a season and the same complaints are heard.

There are no complaints about Redskin fans being unappreciative.It's just the same old same old Eagles fans who wanted to run him out of Philly, because he got them too close to that Super Bowl they've never had.

I'm not talking about Redskins fans....I asked if Shanahan would be called "unappreciative". He's the one benching McNabb and now calling into question his future with the team. Eagles fans wanted him out of Philly because we lost faith in him. Appears Shanny has as well.

 

[Amused to Death]

Eagles fans didn't just bench McNabb in favor of Rex. Donovan's head coach did.

So you're siding with Shanahan here, saying he did the right thing.How did it work out?

My opinion means nothing. Andy Reid didn't ask me what to do. Neither did Shanahan. He came to that conclusion all on his own. And the Eagles QB play has been pretty good. Looks like Kolb can be a good QB when given the chance.

 

[sunnysideup]

Eagles fans wanted him out of Philly because we lost faith in him.

Please speak for yourself and not on behalf of Eagles fans.

 

[Amused to Death]

Eagles fans wanted him out of Philly because we lost faith in him.

Please speak for yourself and not on behalf of Eagles fans.

Sorry, the fans who did want him out....better?

 

[sunnysideup]

Eagles fans wanted him out of Philly because we lost faith in him.

Please speak for yourself and not on behalf of Eagles fans.

Sorry, the fans who did want him out....better?

Worse

 

[basher]

I dont know if this was posted yet but Shanny has now said that Donovan wasn't fit enough to run a 2 minute drill. Awesome.

 

[Amused to Death]

I dont know if this was posted yet but Shanny has now said that Donovan wasn't fit enough to run a 2 minute drill. Awesome.

ASHBURN, Va. -- Mike Shanahan has a new explanation for benching Donovan McNabb. The Washington Redskins coach says the quarterback wasn't in good enough shape to run a two-minute offense with no timeouts.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5753040

 

[Simayi]

Wow. From ESPN:

ASHBURN, Va. -- Mike Shanahan has a new explanation for benching Donovan McNabb. The Washington Redskins coach says the quarterback wasn't in good enough shape to run a two-minute offense with no timeouts.

Shanahan on Monday said McNabb has been struggling with hamstring injuries for five weeks and didn't have the "cardiovascular endurance" to stay on the field with the game on the line against Detroit. Shanahan said he even considered not playing McNabb at all against the Lions.

Shanahan yanked McNabb for Rex Grossman with 1:50 to play in the 37-25 loss, a move than stunned the locker room and had teammates questioning the team's commitment to the six-time Pro Bowl quarterback.

McNabb looked fine during the game and even rushed for a team-high 45 yards.

 

[CalBear]

Ineffective, out of shape or not, there is no explanation for pulling McNabb to put in Rex Grossman to run your two-minute offensive. It was a bonehead move, which should be obvious from the result of the first resultant play.

 

[Superdbs]

Just stop, Mike. You're making it worse with all these bogus explanations. It sounds worse than Josh McDaniel's backpeddling when he got caught in a lie about not offering Cutler up for trade last year.

 

[Amused to Death]

Snogger, please change your subtitle. "Rex knows the 2 minute drill better" was yesterday's explanation. Today's is "McNabb wasn't in good enough shape". Stay tuned for tomorrow's explanation.

 

[CaptainHook]

I think the major problem here is that Shanahan might be losing the lockerroom and probably clinched it here. McNabb is well respected throughout the league and I would imagine that more than a few players on the Skins have his back. After all of the nonsense with Fat Albert (regardless of whose fault it is/was), are any players gonna want to play for this guy?

I predict a very bad season next year.

mcnabb has never been especially liked by his teammates.

 

[ddog9876]

Amusedtodeath speaks the truth....

Eagle fans (I am a Viking fan but I live in Philly) got abused in the national media for wanting to end the DMac era. It was turned into Eagle fans being unappreciative of what he accomplished.

That just isn't true.

They wanted to move on - they thought the current Eagles could not win a Super Bowl with DMac and wanted to turn the page.

Andy Reid shipped Dmac out of town (not the fans) - somehow I think that gets lost.

After DMac's performance to date, does anyone think the fans were wrong for wanting to or Reid wrong to actually end the DMac era?

It was the right choice - and now they (the Eagle fans) are crowing a bit - I would too.

 

[CaptainHook]

Jason Campbell y/a 2009 7.1

Donovan Mcnabb y/a 2010 7.1

Lmao

 

[TommyGilmore]

After DMac's performance to date, does anyone think the fans were wrong for wanting to or Reid wrong to actually end the DMac era?

Are Eagles fans so deluded that they think McNabb would have put up the exact same stats in Philly this season?

 

[Amused to Death]

After DMac's performance to date, does anyone think the fans were wrong for wanting to or Reid wrong to actually end the DMac era?

Are Eagles fans so deluded that they think McNabb would have put up the exact same stats in Philly this season?

How much better do you think they'd be? The Eagles have their own O-line issues. Probably better stats then what he's shown in Washington, but I'm not so sure the Eagles didn't make the right decision. I wonder what Reid thinks, since he actually made the decision along with the team's front office. And let's not forget they work under the premise its better to get rid a player a year too soon rather than a year too late.

 

[ddog9876]

After DMac's performance to date, does anyone think the fans were wrong for wanting to or Reid wrong to actually end the DMac era?

Are Eagles fans so deluded that they think McNabb would have put up the exact same stats in Philly this season?

You're missing the point. McNabb is a mediocre QB at this point in his career.The fans were willing to live with potentially poorer play from the QB position (with upside) vs another year of mediocrity (no upsdie)from DMac.Vick has provided upside (albeit only when he's on the field). DMac has played as well as they thought (forget about the stats).

 

[Amused to Death]

After DMac's performance to date, does anyone think the fans were wrong for wanting to or Reid wrong to actually end the DMac era?

Are Eagles fans so deluded that they think McNabb would have put up the exact same stats in Philly this season?

McNabb's stats this year in 7 point games in the 4th quarter (per NFLN):Comp Pct: 48.1%TD-Int: 0-3Passer rating: 38.1Drives-TDs: 20-1Is it all the team's fault? Those numbers have a long way to go up to be even respectable.

 

[ddog9876]

After DMac's performance to date, does anyone think the fans were wrong for wanting to or Reid wrong to actually end the DMac era?

Are Eagles fans so deluded that they think McNabb would have put up the exact same stats in Philly this season?

McNabb's stats this year in 7 point games in the 4th quarter (per NFLN):Comp Pct: 48.1%TD-Int: 0-3Passer rating: 38.1Drives-TDs: 20-1Is it all the team's fault? Those numbers have a long way to go up to be even respectable.

Truth.The man is not clutch - sorry to all Philly fan haters but they're right - he just isn't.

 

[whitem0nkey]

maybe Shanahan can call the Bears and offer a #1 pick in exchange for Cutler?

 

[TommyGilmore]

The man is not clutch - sorry to all Philly fan haters but they're right - he just isn't.

He's more clutch than Kevin Kolb, Michael Vick, or Rex Grossman.

 

[ddog9876]

The man is not clutch - sorry to all Philly fan haters but they're right - he just isn't.

He's more clutch than Kevin Kolb, Michael Vick, or Rex Grossman.

Not sure yet, Wrong, Correct.But again, you miss the point.

 

[Amused to Death]

The man is not clutch - sorry to all Philly fan haters but they're right - he just isn't.

He's more clutch than Kevin Kolb, Michael Vick, or Rex Grossman.

The book hasnt' been written on Kolb yet. He's only started a few games. Like most young QB's he probably needs a season or two to get comfortable. Six games probably isn't enough to go on. I wonder how clutch McNabb was after 6 games? I know how clutch he is after 11 seasons though.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Shanny has been around the block..he does not believe in McNabb already. Looks like Reids decision was correct.

Philly is 0 - 1 against McNabb.

And yet Kolb and Vick have higher QB ratings. McNabb has an atrocious rating of 76 and ranked 25th in the league. But in fairness, McNabb doesn't have much talent around him.

to the Eagle fans lumping on McNabb. Seriously, the same fans that boo'd Mike Schmidt

 

[ddog9876]

Shanny has been around the block..he does not believe in McNabb already. Looks like Reids decision was correct.

Philly is 0 - 1 against McNabb.

And yet Kolb and Vick have higher QB ratings. McNabb has an atrocious rating of 76 and ranked 25th in the league. But in fairness, McNabb doesn't have much talent around him.

to the Eagle fans lumping on McNabb. Seriously, the same fans that boo'd Mike Schmidt

And threw snow balls at Santa Claus..So old and tired.... and predictably coming from a NY fan.

 

[Billy Bats]

Shanny has been around the block..he does not believe in McNabb already. Looks like Reids decision was correct.

Philly is 0 - 1 against McNabb.

And yet Kolb and Vick have higher QB ratings. McNabb has an atrocious rating of 76 and ranked 25th in the league. But in fairness, McNabb doesn't have much talent around him.

Seriously, the same fans that boo'd Mike Schmidt

Are you a Yankess fan that booed Derek Jeter?

 

[Amused to Death]

Kyle Shanahan: McNabb was warned he could be benched

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 2, 2010 5:00 PM ET

The Shanahans should probably stop talking now.

Donovan McNabb's benching: The Explanation has hit day three and shows no signs of slowing down. The latest chapter was written by Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who said that his father's words may have "come off wrong" on Monday.

The younger Mastermind only created more confusion. He said that McNabb's injuries were a big part of the equation, and that McNabb was told that he could be benched if he was struggling.

A short time later, McNabb was on the radio. "I didn't hear that part," he said, via the Associated Press.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...uld-be-benched/

 

[bleedgreen]

Kyle Shanahan: McNabb was warned he could be benched

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 2, 2010 5:00 PM ET

The Shanahans should probably stop talking now.

Donovan McNabb's benching: The Explanation has hit day three and shows no signs of slowing down. The latest chapter was written by Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who said that his father's words may have "come off wrong" on Monday.

The younger Mastermind only created more confusion. He said that McNabb's injuries were a big part of the equation, and that McNabb was told that he could be benched if he was struggling.

A short time later, McNabb was on the radio. "I didn't hear that part," he said, via the Associated Press.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...uld-be-benched/

The saga continues. And Jamarcus Russell did a work out for the Skins today.

 

[Insein]

Amusedtodeath speaks the truth....Eagle fans (I am a Viking fan but I live in Philly) got abused in the national media for wanting to end the DMac era. It was turned into Eagle fans being unappreciative of what he accomplished.That just isn't true.They wanted to move on - they thought the current Eagles could not win a Super Bowl with DMac and wanted to turn the page.Andy Reid shipped Dmac out of town (not the fans) - somehow I think that gets lost.After DMac's performance to date, does anyone think the fans were wrong for wanting to or Reid wrong to actually end the DMac era?It was the right choice - and now they (the Eagle fans) are crowing a bit - I would too.

He speaks the truth.

 

[Insein]

What I think is a shame is that people are not ripping Shanahan more. I know he's getting ripped but it needs to be said that you're calling your QB out for either being too dumb or too fat and yet you think thats protecting him some how? This guy makes Chilly look like BB.