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SJAX to be traded? (1 Viewer)

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NFL Network's Mike Lombardi stated on Monday's B.S. Report with Bill Simmons that Steven Jackson wants a new contract.

S-Jax has base salaries of $7 million in 2012 and 2013. "The problem with Steven Jackson is he wants to redo his contract," Lombardi said. "He's not happy where he is. ... I would suspect that the Rams would (draft) the running back as quickly as they could." He was referring to Trent Richardson. Lombardi indicates that the Vikings are trying to bait the Rams to trade up to No. 3 to get Richardson. S-Jax, meanwhile, looks like a candidate to be traded on draft weekend.

Chances this happens?

 
Seems rams screwed themselves moving down if they wanted Richardson. this organization seems so ####### disorganized -- they refuse to get Bradford written weapons.

everyone was praising them for the rg3 deal. yet, who the hell doesn't think they'll screw up those picks just like all their previous ones?

 
'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Seems rams screwed themselves moving down if they wanted Richardson. this organization seems so ####### disorganized -- they refuse to get Bradford written weapons.

everyone was praising them for the rg3 deal. yet, who the hell doesn't think they'll screw up those picks just like all their previous ones?
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Since there's a new coach and GM running the show I guess the answer is...me. :hey:
 
'Andy Dufresne said:
'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Seems rams screwed themselves moving down if they wanted Richardson. this organization seems so ####### disorganized -- they refuse to get Bradford written weapons.

everyone was praising them for the rg3 deal. yet, who the hell doesn't think they'll screw up those picks just like all their previous ones?
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Since there's a new coach and GM running the show I guess the answer is...me. :hey:
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I agree, new management, and a fantastic trade for a team in rebuild.They don't need to spend a high pick on Richardson.

 
'Shutout said:
NFL Network's Mike Lombardi stated on Monday's B.S. Report with Bill Simmons that Steven Jackson wants a new contract.

S-Jax has base salaries of $7 million in 2012 and 2013. "The problem with Steven Jackson is he wants to redo his contract," Lombardi said. "He's not happy where he is. ... I would suspect that the Rams would (draft) the running back as quickly as they could." He was referring to Trent Richardson. Lombardi indicates that the Vikings are trying to bait the Rams to trade up to No. 3 to get Richardson. S-Jax, meanwhile, looks like a candidate to be traded on draft weekend.

Chances this happens?
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Where would he go? Giants? Tampa? It would have to be a team that is positioned to win this year but lacks a big back and doesn't want to use a first or second round pick on a RB.
 
'az_prof said:
Where would he go? Giants? Tampa? It would have to be a team that is positioned to win this year but lacks a big back and doesn't want to use a first or second round pick on a RB.
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Patriots/Jets/Steelers/Broncos/Falcons
 
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'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Seems rams screwed themselves moving down if they wanted Richardson. this organization seems so ####### disorganized -- they refuse to get Bradford written weapons.everyone was praising them for the rg3 deal. yet, who the hell doesn't think they'll screw up those picks just like all their previous ones?
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The same guy that made that RG3 deal and did NOT screw up those picks, since, you know, its someone different. Jeff Fisher is the name. Welcome. Ever hear the phrase "Rome wasn't built in a day"? - it applies here.
 
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'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Seems rams screwed themselves moving down if they wanted Richardson. this organization seems so ####### disorganized -- they refuse to get Bradford written weapons.everyone was praising them for the rg3 deal. yet, who the hell doesn't think they'll screw up those picks just like all their previous ones?
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It's really not an outlandish scenario that Richardson falls to them at 6, even if it seems unlikely right now.
 
Would be fantastic news for S-Jax owners.

It does seem a bit strange though since S-Jax seemed totally onboard with Jeff Fisher. To then turn around and want traded seems like there's a missing piece somewhere. Wonder if that's from all the talk about StL wanting Richardson so much or what.

 
If the Rams wind up drafting Trent Richardson and if they could somehow trade Steve-Jax and his $7 million salary then I think they should.

Having said that, I don't know what the Rams will wind up doing in the draft. It is easy to say that they just sit tight and take whoever drops to them but they may have their eye on one guy, could be T-Rich, could be Blackmon, and it could very well be Kalil.

They may have had their eye on one guy all throguh the process of trading down from the #2 spot to the #6 spot thinking that the guy they wanted would have been available when they made the trade and now they might think the guy they wanted will be gone if they sit and wait.

So if they move back up and pay one of the second round picks they still come ahead with two extra first round picks and still own a high second round pick.

The question is what player do they want?

Minnesota was wildly thought to be locked in on Kalil and only recently we've heard different. Minnesota has never been a threat to take Richardson so I highly doubt St. Louis would now be motivated to move up for Richardson. They must feel that Minnesota is going to take one of the guys that they felt could drop to #6, possibly Blackmon or Claiborne.

Richardson seems like a fallback option for the Rams if they are mentioning trading Steve-Jax.

It seems whatever Minnesota does will impact the Rams so depending on what Minny does the Rams might be interested in moving up to the #4 pick and Cleveland might be willing to move down provided that the Browns have more than one option available to them at #6.

 
Have said this in a prior thread but the contract/salary cap numbers don't make much sense for any acquiring team unless they and Sjax are willing to tear up his current contract. The Rams would save about $4M in cap space this year and another $7M next year but the acquiring team would be on the hook for his $7M salaries for the next 2 seasons and then he's a FA.

As good as SJax is, who's going to give up a draft pick and pay him 7mil per for a 2 year rental? Or trade a pick AND give a big money extension to a 29 year old RB?

 
'Buckna said:
Have said this in a prior thread but the contract/salary cap numbers don't make much sense for any acquiring team unless they and Sjax are willing to tear up his current contract. The Rams would save about $4M in cap space this year and another $7M next year but the acquiring team would be on the hook for his $7M salaries for the next 2 seasons and then he's a FA.As good as SJax is, who's going to give up a draft pick and pay him 7mil per for a 2 year rental? Or trade a pick AND give a big money extension to a 29 year old RB?
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Yep. This reminds me of the end of Tomlinson's run in San Diego. A guy who was very good and thinks he will remain that way for a long time, but management clearly knows he's close to finished. So one guy thinks he actually deserves an extension and that there would be a big market for his services if the Rams disagree. While the GM knows that isn't the case but has to tread delicately because of the ego involved.
 
'Grahamburn said:
He wants to be traded or he wants a new deal? :confused:
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Maybe he wants the new deal and if the Rams refuse to give it to him, he wants to be traded to someone who will. But I'm not so sure there's a team out there that would want any part of a long term deal with any type of upfront money to him.
 
This just seems a little odd to me.

Jackson is making good money by RB standards. $7m a year at the end of a contract when Foster just signed for an $8.5m average and the franchise tag is only worth $8m. It isn't like he was getting Chris Johnson or Arian Foster underpaid.

I don't see him getting those 2 salaries increased much. I suppose he could be trying to get 2 more years tacked on now while he's 28, rather than having to try to negotiate a new contract when he's 30 and lost some bargaining power, but that's about the only thing I could see someone realistically thinking they might gain from such a stance. Unless he's just posturing trying to get out of St. Louis and go to a contender while he's still productive.

 
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Would love to see him in NE. He's one of my fav players and he deserves a shot at a ring after carrying the Rams on his back for years now.

 
'bengalbuck said:
'Buckna said:
Have said this in a prior thread but the contract/salary cap numbers don't make much sense for any acquiring team unless they and Sjax are willing to tear up his current contract. The Rams would save about $4M in cap space this year and another $7M next year but the acquiring team would be on the hook for his $7M salaries for the next 2 seasons and then he's a FA.As good as SJax is, who's going to give up a draft pick and pay him 7mil per for a 2 year rental? Or trade a pick AND give a big money extension to a 29 year old RB?
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Yep. This reminds me of the end of Tomlinson's run in San Diego. A guy who was very good and thinks he will remain that way for a long time, but management clearly knows he's close to finished. So one guy thinks he actually deserves an extension and that there would be a big market for his services if the Rams disagree. While the GM knows that isn't the case but has to tread delicately because of the ego involved.
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OR...choses to tread delicately until he knows his replacement (Richardson or MArtin or whomever) is secured and draftable. Its hard fo rme to think SJAX would be traded but I think the theory has legs.
 
Smells like Patriots to me. Bring in a bus load of old outcasts this week to at least bluff a little bit of leverage to get SJax for the lowest possible pick, re-do his deal and try to score the necessary 83 points a week that they'll need in order to make another Super Bowl run.

 
Turns 29 before season, has over 2100 career carries, due $7 mil in each of 2012&2013 and wants new deal.

He should be thankful for his current deal. If he can be, they may get more than a 5th/6th.

 
'Greg Russell said:
This just seems a little odd to me.Jackson is making good money by RB standards. $7m a year at the end of a contract when Foster just signed for an $8.5m average and the franchise tag is only worth $8m. It isn't like he was getting Chris Johnson or Arian Foster underpaid.I don't see him getting those 2 salaries increased much. I suppose he could be trying to get 2 more years tacked on now while he's 28, rather than having to try to negotiate a new contract when he's 30 and lost some bargaining power, but that's about the only thing I could see someone realistically thinking they might gain from such a stance. Unless he's just posturing trying to get out of St. Louis and go to a contender while he's still productive.
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Probably wants that $14 mil left put into a signing bonus. Could easily become a cap casualty in 2013 as is when he hits 30. (Rams have would 2 drafts to draft his replacement)
 
'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Turns 29 before season, has over 2100 career carries, due $7 mil in each of 2012&2013 and wants new deal.

He should be thankful for his current deal. If he can be, they may get more than a 5th/6th.
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Yeah, the timing of his contract demands seem odd. If he was going to ask for more money wouldn't you think he would do it after the draft.
 
'Donnybrook said:
'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Turns 29 before season, has over 2100 career carries, due $7 mil in each of 2012&2013 and wants new deal.

He should be thankful for his current deal. If he can be, they may get more than a 5th/6th.
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Yeah, the timing of his contract demands seem odd. If he was going to ask for more money wouldn't you think he would do it after the draft.
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You'd also think an old RB would be giddy that someone will still pay him $7M.
 
'Donnybrook said:
'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Turns 29 before season, has over 2100 career carries, due $7 mil in each of 2012&2013 and wants new deal.

He should be thankful for his current deal. If he can be, they may get more than a 5th/6th.
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Yeah, the timing of his contract demands seem odd. If he was going to ask for more money wouldn't you think he would do it after the draft.
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I think now is the time to ask. Unquestionably now is the correct time. Less teams will be in the market for an old RB after the draft.Easy to see why he's asking (he's looking for 1 last solid signing bonus). Gore, at age 28, got a $13.5 signing bonus. (He also had >700 less career carries than Jackson has now).

He's more likely to get cut IMO than get a new deal out of rebuilding Rams. Perhaps he can get a restructured deal elsewhere (Example: $10 mil signing bonus with low base salaries next 2 years). He's not going to total much more (if any) than the $14 mil he's due.

 
Some team is gonna give up a pick AND give sjax a payday? 4th maybe and thats stretchin it. And thats only because there are stupid franchises out there.

 
Not gonna happen. He's had chances to leave before and stuck with the lowly Rams all these years. Loyalty should go a long ways, methinks. On the other hand, he'll be 29 in July. Lot of miles. So why would the Rams want to sign him to a new deal? He has 1-3 years max left. So maybe I'm talking myself out of saying he won't get traded...? :excited:

 
Of the few teams out there that have $7M or more in cap space, there are likely no candidates who will give ANYTHING in return for SJAX. No, not even a 7th rounder. Who wants to pay a 29 yo malcontent RB with a ton of miles $7M+ and deal with the headache of extending him? It makes no sense on so many levels. The Rams are stuck with him.

 
'Corky said:
The Steelers did pretty well with the last RB they got in a trade from the Rams.
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Very true, but I don't see even a remote possibility that they part with a draft pick for a 29 year old RB that they then have to pay $14 million over the next two years (at a minimum.) I think they'd prefer to just run Redman into the ground at $600k or whatever his ERFA tender was.
 
'Evilgrin 72 said:
'Corky said:
The Steelers did pretty well with the last RB they got in a trade from the Rams.
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Very true, but I don't see even a remote possibility that they part with a draft pick for a 29 year old RB that they then have to pay $14 million over the next two years (at a minimum.) I think they'd prefer to just run Redman into the ground at $600k or whatever his ERFA tender was.
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No. I agree. Cost prohibitive. I just like big backs from StL.
 
But the draft pick wouldn't be the issue. If they could afford him, I'm pretty certain they'd give up a 4th or 5th for him, which should be all it would take.

 
I guess I can hijack my own thread...

If ANYONE needs traded to the Steelers on thursday, its JSTEW!

Free JSTEW!

 
'Craig_MiamiFL said:
'Donnybrook said:
'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Turns 29 before season, has over 2100 career carries, due $7 mil in each of 2012&2013 and wants new deal.

He should be thankful for his current deal. If he can be, they may get more than a 5th/6th.
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Yeah, the timing of his contract demands seem odd. If he was going to ask for more money wouldn't you think he would do it after the draft.
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I think now is the time to ask. Unquestionably now is the correct time. Less teams will be in the market for an old RB after the draft.Easy to see why he's asking (he's looking for 1 last solid signing bonus). Gore, at age 28, got a $13.5 signing bonus. (He also had >700 less career carries than Jackson has now).

He's more likely to get cut IMO than get a new deal out of rebuilding Rams. Perhaps he can get a restructured deal elsewhere (Example: $10 mil signing bonus with low base salaries next 2 years). He's not going to total much more (if any) than the $14 mil he's due.
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I'm a big fan of the guy but he's not accepting the reality of his situation. He should just be looking at trying to cash in on his next two paydays and ride off into the sunset. Unless he's actually trying to get cut so he can sign with a team with a chance to win. People have been talking about SJax to the Patriots for years, so if it's not really about the money I can see him signing there for cheap.
 
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