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Max Power

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Both of my parents snore and I'm starting to get pretty bad myself.  Enough so that the wife is kicking me out of bed on a regular basis.  Does anyone have a recommendation to solve this puzzle?  Anyone tried the Zyppah mouth guard?

I'm going to schedule a sleep study soon, but want a short term solution if there is one.

 
Oh, and how much do you drink - I almost always snore when I drink.
I occasionally snore when I drink (pretty rarely as a ratio to how often I drink - seems for me somehow hard liquor makes me snore but beer doesn't :shrug: ). My wife has once or twice (ever) left the bed because of my snoring.

All that said, my in laws have a Boston Terrier that snores like a MFer and it drives me up the wall, so I have sympathy for anyone sleeping with a snores. And that dog sucks (and I have two dogs... with proper noses... who know how to sleep without making ####### noise).

 
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I tried the Zyppah and couldn't get used to it. I just sent it back after a bit for a full refund. Very accommodating customer service. 

 
I tried

Z-Quiet mouthpiece

Good Morning Snoring Solution a tongue suction thing

Mute nasal dilator

Sleep Right nasal dilator

Sanostec Max Air Nose Cones

The short answer to my tests is, the Z-Quiet worked best for me.  It pushes out the bottom of my jaw and feels like it pushes my bottom teeth out, but it has helped.   Positives are outweighing negatives.

The tongue suction thing never felt right at all   I constantly felt like I was biting my tongue and didn't like it.

The Mute and Sleep Right nasal dialators helped some but caused me pain (like brushburn feeling) in my septum.   It stung.

i occasionally use the Max Air nasal dialators.  They are made of a soft material and they don't grab or pinch your septum.

My wife says I still snore, mostly when I drink, but the volume of the snoring has been greatly reduced, and I don't snore nearly as much anymore.  

Another advantage of the Z-Quiet is it can be cleaned in hot water and mild soap.  I actually clean mine while I shower each morning.   Some of the other products recommend alcohol or denture cleaner to clean them.

Try the Z-Quiet.   It's worth a shot.  I use it every night at home now.

 
AAABatteries said:
How overweight are you?  My degree of snoring is very much correlated to my weight.
Sometimes but not always.  I'm 6', 170 lbs, very little body fat but snore like a MFer.  Dental appliance helps but I hate that thing. 

 
Sometimes but not always.  I'm 6', 170 lbs, very little body fat but snore like a MFer.  Dental appliance helps but I hate that thing. 
Agree but based on my conversation with an ENT and research I would advise people to start there for a variety of reasons.

 
Max Power said:
Both of my parents snore and I'm starting to get pretty bad myself.  Enough so that the wife is kicking me out of bed on a regular basis.  Does anyone have a recommendation to solve this puzzle? 
Kick her out of bed first. 

 
Good info, it sounds like a beast just to get some ZZZ's.  Outside of the noise, what else does a CPAP prevent?  We don't hear of people dying in their sleep do to snoring too often.

 
My wife basically has a second bedroom to escape to when needed...

I'm going to a specialist and possible sleep testing in a couple weeks.
Same here.  Our guest room is basically my bedroom at the moment.  I hope a sleep study can answer this. 

 
Good info, it sounds like a beast just to get some ZZZ's.  Outside of the noise, what else does a CPAP prevent?  We don't hear of people dying in their sleep do to snoring too often.
ACTUALLY.... we sorta do. Snoring has been correlated to a range of ailments ranging from pulmonary and heart issues to fatigue to hypertension. It can very much be both a symptom of and possible contributing factor toward serious illness.

 
ACTUALLY.... we sorta do. Snoring has been correlated to a range of ailments ranging from pulmonary and heart issues to fatigue to hypertension. It can very much be both a symptom of and possible contributing factor toward serious illness.
Thanks for things to think about while I try to sleep tonight :(

 
Good info, it sounds like a beast just to get some ZZZ's.  Outside of the noise, what else does a CPAP prevent?  We don't hear of people dying in their sleep do to snoring too often.
I'm entering my second week with a cpap after developing heart palpitations in December. I went through a battery of tests and was deemed perfectly healthy with no explanation for the palpitations except lack of sleep (babies) and snoring (booze cuz babies). I use the nose mask even though it was determined I sleep with my mouth open. It's been great for the snoring but it takes some getting used to. I had them dial back the pressure because it increases during the night and it was waking me up. Jury is still out if it will help the palpitations. So far I would reccomend it. 

 
To your point, it wont (likely) kill you tonight.  Seriously, its a slow build.

But let that reality be motivation to get it checked out. :thumbup:  
I plan to get a study done.  I wake up at least 4-5 times a night due to snoring.  Its starting to cause problems in my everyday life.  I get sleepy at work when I"m at my desk.

 
I'm entering my second week with a cpap after developing heart palpitations in December. I went through a battery of tests and was deemed perfectly healthy with no explanation for the palpitations except lack of sleep (babies) and snoring (booze cuz babies). I use the nose mask even though it was determined I sleep with my mouth open. It's been great for the snoring but it takes some getting used to. I had them dial back the pressure because it increases during the night and it was waking me up. Jury is still out if it will help the palpitations. So far I would reccomend it. 
How hard is it to fall asleep though?  I have trouble normally, I think with a mask its going to be impossible...

 
How hard is it to fall asleep though?  I have trouble normally, I think with a mask its going to be impossible...
Hard for me to say because I've never had trouble falling asleep. As long as I can get horizontal I can be asleep in any conditions within 60 seconds.  It's my superpower. 

It pumps a shocking amount of air into your airways. With the nose mask, if you open your mouth air will blow out.  It's a strange sensation and I'm sure people have trouble with it  but worth a shot though.

 
Max Power said:
Both of my parents snore and I'm starting to get pretty bad myself.  Enough so that the wife is kicking me out of bed on a regular basis.  Does anyone have a recommendation to solve this puzzle?  Anyone tried the Zyppah mouth guard?

I'm going to schedule a sleep study soon, but want a short term solution if there is one.
Are you overweight?

 
Dropping weight would probably be the best course of action you could take for results. If it doesn't stop the snoring then get the help of an MD to determine if there are other causes.
Im going to try this route.  I cut my drinking in half, so I hope I naturally lose the pounds. I will get the sleep study done soon enough.  Does anyone know if this could be genetic?  My parents both snore and they aren't really "overweight" 

 
Im going to try this route.  I cut my drinking in half, so I hope I naturally lose the pounds. I will get the sleep study done soon enough.  Does anyone know if this could be genetic?  My parents both snore and they aren't really "overweight" 
There are other physiological causes besides weight. I think a deviated septum is one of the biggest causes. Are you sleeping on your side or back?

 
There are other physiological causes besides weight. I think a deviated septum is one of the biggest causes. Are you sleeping on your side or back?
Side.  every single night. The wife rolls me over some times and that helps for a bit

 
Side.  every single night. The wife rolls me over some times and that helps for a bit
That's odd. In my experience snoring usually happens when people are on their back and rolling them on the side helps. Sounds like it's the other way around for you. I'm not sure what to make of that.

Maybe switch to Zima?

 
That's odd. In my experience snoring usually happens when people are on their back and rolling them on the side helps. Sounds like it's the other way around for you. I'm not sure what to make of that.

Maybe switch to Zima?
Never going to Zima.  I do snore worse on my back, but I hardly sleep like that. 

 
Good info, it sounds like a beast just to get some ZZZ's.  Outside of the noise, what else does a CPAP prevent?  We don't hear of people dying in their sleep do to snoring too often.
well, it's the underlying issues causing the snoring and the issues that result because of snoring that kill people.. not so much the snoring itself.

 
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Is z-quiet comfortable?  I've tried half dozen CPAP masks and can never find one that doesn't leak and/or require me to tighten so much it's painful 

 
Nick Vermeil said:
I'm entering my second week with a cpap after developing heart palpitations in December. I went through a battery of tests and was deemed perfectly healthy with no explanation for the palpitations except lack of sleep (babies) and snoring (booze cuz babies). I use the nose mask even though it was determined I sleep with my mouth open. It's been great for the snoring but it takes some getting used to. I had them dial back the pressure because it increases during the night and it was waking me up. Jury is still out if it will help the palpitations. So far I would reccomend it. 
Although no apparent causes found for tour palpitations, you might want to go an Electro Physiologist (EP) (cardiologist with specialty in heart electrical signals/heart rhythms). Palpitatins can develop into other issues. Most common issues is atrial flutter and afib and as mentioned earlier there can be a relationship with snoring/sleep apnea. Many times can be treated by an ablation. If it goes untreated it tends to gets worse as surrounding heart cells try to accomodate the palpitations.  

 
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Although no apparent causes found for tour palpitations, you might want to go an Electro Physiologist (EP) (cardiologist with specialty in heart electrical signals/heart rhythms). Palpitatins can develop into other issues. Most common issues is atrial flutter and afib and as mentioned earlier there can be a relationship with snoring/sleep apnea. Many times can be treated by an ablation. If it goes untreated it tends to gets worse as surrounding heart cells try to accomodate the palpitations.  
Done that. Part of the battery. They want to try the cpap before the ablation. I'd rather not have one to be honest. 

 
Is z-quiet comfortable?  I've tried half dozen CPAP masks and can never find one that doesn't leak and/or require me to tighten so much it's painful 
The z-quiet has been comfortable for me.  It doesn't hurt my jaw when I sleep, and it doesn't hurt my teeth.  If I were rating comfort between 1 (extremely uncomfortable) to 10 (most comfortable) I would probably put it at 7 or 8. It still moves the jaw so you can feel it, but I haven't experienced any pain with it at all in my teeth or jaw.

The only thing that it does kind of mess up is... my 'bite'.  The mouthpiece pushes the bottom of your jaw outward.  It does this by using your bottom teeth for leverage to push out the bottom of your jaw.  When I initially wake up, my bottom teeth are actually pushed outward toward my lips very slightly.  Like I said, not painful, but they do push them out.  Sometimes when I am eating my morning breakfast, that slight pushing out of my bottom teeth makes it so my top and bottom teeth don't line up right for biting.  It makes it so I can't bite down the whole way in the morning.  It doesn't last all day but it can be a bit of a pain sometimes.  Not nearly as bad as being blamed for my wife not sleeping, but a minor inconvenience.

 
The z-quiet has been comfortable for me.  It doesn't hurt my jaw when I sleep, and it doesn't hurt my teeth.  If I were rating comfort between 1 (extremely uncomfortable) to 10 (most comfortable) I would probably put it at 7 or 8. It still moves the jaw so you can feel it, but I haven't experienced any pain with it at all in my teeth or jaw.

The only thing that it does kind of mess up is... my 'bite'.  The mouthpiece pushes the bottom of your jaw outward.  It does this by using your bottom teeth for leverage to push out the bottom of your jaw.  When I initially wake up, my bottom teeth are actually pushed outward toward my lips very slightly.  Like I said, not painful, but they do push them out.  Sometimes when I am eating my morning breakfast, that slight pushing out of my bottom teeth makes it so my top and bottom teeth don't line up right for biting.  It makes it so I can't bite down the whole way in the morning.  It doesn't last all day but it can be a bit of a pain sometimes.  Not nearly as bad as being blamed for my wife not sleeping, but a minor inconvenience.
I wanted to give an update on my snoring devices.  So... the mouthguard just isn't working out.  It works well.  I didn't mind using it at all.  The problem is with what I mentioned above in how it messes up my bite.  It got really really annoying after a while.  I would wake up and when I attempted to chew anything my top front teeth and bottom front teeth would land exactly on top of each other.  It turns out that my bottom teeth move when I use these mouth guards.

I thought maybe the z-quiet was the problem so I actually tried another mouth guard called Snore RX.  This one was much more substantial and was 'boil and bite' so it held all of your teeth like a football mouth guard.  I thought this might hold my teeth in their normal position better.  I tried it, it also worked for snoring, but it also still moved my teeth.

The final straw was, after a night of using the mouth guard I went to McDonalds and was eating a bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit.  Each time I attempted to chew, my top and bottom front teeth just smashed into each other and grinded together.  It sounded horrible, it felt horrible, it felt like I was chipping my teeth away, and I couldn't eat my biscuit without chewing in a weird way where most of the chewing was being done with my front teeth.  About a week after this incident I had a cap  / filling type thing that WAS on my bottom front tooth come off.  It was a cap put over an old chipped tooth I had from over 20 years ago.  It had stayed on all this time, and it finally came off because of this stupid anti snoring device.

So I guess if your teeth don't move like my did, it would still work... however, I don't know how you could ever figure that out ahead of time.  I have been using max air nose cones every night since, but they are not as effective as the mouth guard.  I am trying to make it so I can breath through my nose, because I seem to really snore most when I breathe through my mouth.  I am also trying to fall asleep on my side but I usually roll on my back at some point during the night.

Anayway, I thought I had something good, but it just didn't work out.  I think I am going to have to go do a sleep analysis.  I was hoping to avoid that, but I guess it might finally be time if I can't figure something else out.   

 
I need to look into this as well.  I already have a mouth guard for teeth grinding, so I hope I'm a "jaw" snorer, where I can get one to help with both.

ETA - a while back, on a family vacation, we grabbed a hotel room just for a night during a long drive.  I was awoken by my teenage stepson SLAMMING a pillow into my face because (apparently) I was keeping him awake.  Very disorienting, but :lmao: in hindsight.

 
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