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Some Backup Running Backs To Keep Your Eye On (1 Viewer)

JGalligan

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I debated on whether or not to try and write a RB edition for Comatose Sleepers, but decided it would be impossible. Unlike WR’s, teams only usually use two RB’s maximum (as starters) so there is essentially just three main RB’s on a roster at any given time. You could definitely make a case for a couple RB's as comatose sleepers but it's definitely not a whole list that would warrant much discussion.

Unlike WR’s, a backup RB only needs one injury to pave the way for his shot at a starting job. Year after year new RB’s barrel there way to recognition. In the interests of backing this claim up with stats, (because when is that EVER a bad thing?) I did some extensive research.

Since the 2000 season, an average of 9 players have broken into the Top 25 rushing list that weren’t there the year prior. Nine. The majority of them broke well into the Top 20 as well. What this tells us is that no matter how much we like to think so, the RB landscape is going to change. People are going to get injured, teams are going to give their youth a shot and some dark horses will emerge. It‘ll all happen like clockwork.

With the league’s new trend, the running back by committee, we could eventually be putting a much larger stake in a Top 30 or 40. I don’t think I need to tell you that the average amount of players that would break into a Top 30 or 40 would likely go up. Tis simple mathematics.

Some backups have question for the handcuff (Kansas City) while others may be a worthy handcuff to another handcuff (Miami). In the end it is of no matter. They all deserve a small part of your attention.

Anyway, hopefully I’ve convinced you that it’s worth studying up on your backup RB’s because even if I haven‘t, we’re still going forward. Sorry..

As with the WR’s, make sure you’re an optimist before reading much further and feel free to mention anyone who I may not have noticed yet in your replies. The comatose sleepers WR edition has already built up an impressive list of prospects through community input. As long as you do it coherently and they’re not completely hopeless, I’ll add them. It’s that simple!

Cue the list!

Fred Jackson (BUF) - Despite Marshawn Lynch having the second best rookie RB season next to only Adrian Peterson, he did manage to get injured. It was a minor injury, but he was still out for 3 games none-the-less. The job Fred Jackson did while filling in for Lynch impressed many people. Especially his 300 yards on 58 carries with 22 receptions tacked on for 190 yards. Those stats, along with the fact that Marshawn Lynch runs with a reckless abandon style, give Jackson huge value as a backup.

Outlook: Lynch is too tough to miss too much time from mere bumps and bruises. So barring some breaks or tears, Jackson likely will see much of the same amount of action that he did last year.

Handcuff value: High

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Steve Slaton (HOU) - With news of Ahman Greens injury surprising a grand total of 3 people, Slaton should have a shot to show why he has what it takes to have a role on offense. Many people aren’t too high on him because of his size (or lack thereof) but isn’t that what people said about Barry Sanders? Note: That was NOT a Barry Sanders/Steve Slaton comparison. It was just a thought.

Outlook: He’s still on a roster that has more RB’s than the Buccaneers have QB’s and as we all know, that’s certainly saying something. The key thing is that although he’s on a crowded depth chart, it’s a depth chart saddled with mediocrity.

Handcuff value: Not very much

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Mike Hart (IND) - The main knock against Mike Hart is that he’s a working mans RB. He succeeds through hard work, desire and the will to get it right. Although he had one of the most impressive runs I have ever seen in high school, he’s basically the epitimy of the term ‘workhorse back’. He won’t be juking out defenders, but will continue to run at them until he succeeds in running them over. The Colts appear set with Dominic Rhodes as the current backup to Joseph Addai, but the more Hart is around, the more he’ll impress the coaches.

Outlook: Rhodes isn’t going to stand in Hart’s way for very long. It may take a while, but Hart should chip away at his shot at Addai’s backup catch by catch and run by run.

Handcuff value: Potentially decent

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Greg Jones (JAX) - The older Fred Taylor gets, not only does Maurice Jones-Drew inch closer towards the starting spot, but the RB2 spot along with MJD becomes all the more important. You may remember Greg Jones as Fred Taylor’s compliment during the 2005 season. He rushed for 575 yards and 4 TD’s and many were optimistic about his status heading into the 2006 season. Then the ACL tear fairy struck and he missed the entire season.

Outlook: The emergence of MJD limited Jones’ role when he returned in 2007, but he’s the leading candidate to return to his complimentary role once Fred Taylor retires. I wouldn’t bet too much on that happening this year or even the next, but it is going to happen eventually.

Handcuff value: Rising

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Jackie Battle, Jamaal Charles and Kolby Smith (KC) - The battle to be Larry Johnson’s backup appears to be wide open with Kolby Smith gaining a slight edge with his performance in the Chiefs second pre-season game (4 carries for 37 yards, 2 receptions for 10 yards). Jackie Battle is fighting for the spot as well but hasn’t done too much to show he deserves it. Jamaal Charles’ fumbling issues continue to plague him but if we learned anything from Tiki Barber, besides that he’s definitely a better football player than announcer, it’s that fumbling issues can be cured.

Outlook: Charles has the most value in the long run due to youth and talent, but his fumbling issues should give Smith the shot at LJ’s backup once again this year. He’ll have the opportunity to claim the backup spot as his own but could lose it over the course of the season should Charles succeed in weakening his weaknesses. With Larry Johnson’s injury last year proving he’s not invincible, the battle is definitely worth monitoring.

Handcuff value: Decent (For the victor)

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Jalen Parmele (MIA) - Parmele has the lead it appears for the RB3 spot behind perennial injury risks, Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. There’s no doubt he has talent and has so far impressed the coaches enough to warrant the lead in the second backup battle. Williams is now 31 and although he looks impressive, he won’t likely be around for too long. The situation in general has Parmele in a very favorable position.

Outlook: With injuries very, very likely for both Williams and Brown, Parmele could get his feet wet this year with a decent amount of playing time. Even if he doesn’t he can learn the offense and be primed to steal the RB2 spot from Williams next year.

Handcuff value: Rising

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Michael Bush (OAK) - Although Justin Fargas is likely to be splitting snaps with Darren McFadden to start the year, it’s up in the air how it will eventually go. Fargas looked impressive last year but is injury prone and fast approaching the age of 30. Despite what at first glance doesn’t look too good of a situation for Bush, it could eventually turn out quite well. Unless of course Justin Fargas has hired Fred Taylor’s strength and conditioning trainers.

Outlook: If the rehab from his injury went well and he can return to prior form, the Raiders could end up with a potent duo of McFadden and Bush for years to come.

Handcuff value: Potentially necessary

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Tim Hightower (ARI) - The buzz out of Arizona (and right here on the boards!) is all about fifth round rookie RB Tim Hightower. Reportedly, he’s passed J.J. Arrington and Marcell Ship on the depth chart and is now the direct backup behind the aging and questionable Edgerrin James. Although Edge has never really been what you could call an injury risk, that could change with each extra year he plays in the NFL.

Outlook: Although it would be hard to imagine Edge falling off the map completely this year or even the next, Hightower finds himself in position many other talented young backup RB’s would kill for: The next in line behind an aging veteran.

Handcuff value: Couldn’t hurt

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Others to keep your eye on that you don’t likely need to be informed about (with links to any relevant forum discussions):

Jerious Norwood (ATL)

Brandon Jackson (GB)

Pierre Thomas (NO)

Ahmad Bradshaw and Derrick Ward (NYG)

Justin Forsett (SEA)

Lamont Jordan(NE)

Ray Rice (BAL)

Marcus Mason (WAS)

Jacob Hester (SD)

Tashard Choice (DAL)

Garrett Wolfe (CHI)

Chris Perry (CIN)

Lorenzo Booker (PHI)

 
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Good stuff....if Mike Hart ever gets an opportunity to play in Indy, I think he'll be very productive. The guy has a motor that doesn't stop.

 
Forgot to add the signing of Lamont Jordan and what affect that could have on Maroney's numbers. He looked good in his 2 pre-season games and his ability to catch out of the backfield makes him a great 3rd down option in this offense. If Maroney were to get hurt, Jordan could see his fair share of carries and I believe he has the talent to make the most out of the situation. I'm more of a believer that his first year in Oakland was more telling of his abilities rather than his last. It seems like Oakland has a knack for acquiring talented players at skilled positions, turning them into irrelevant players and then cutting them lose, only to sdee them become rejuvenated with another team (see Randy Moss).

 
Nice work. Two points:

Mike Hart (IND) - The main knock against Mike Hart is that he's a working mans RB. He succeeds through hard work, desire and the will to succeed. Although he had one of the most impressive runs I have ever seen in high school, he's basically the epitimy of the term 'workhorse back'. He won't be juking out defenders, but will continue to run at them until he succeeds in running them over. The Colts appear set with Dominic Rhodes as the current backup to Joseph Addai, but the more Hart is around, the more he'll impress the coaches.

Outlook: Rhodes isn't going to stand in Hart's way for very long. It may take a while, but Hart should chip away at his shot at Addai's backup catch by catch and run by run.
Maybe Indy homers can chime in here, but I'd be surprised if Hart overtakes Rhodes in '08. I love his long-term potential as much as anyone, I just don't think they brought Rhodes back to make him a 3rd-stringer.
Michael Bush (OAK) - Although Justin Fargas is likely to be splitting snaps with Darren McFadden to start the year, it's up in the air how it will eventually go. Fargas looked impressive last year but is injury prone and fast approaching the age of 30. Despite what at first glance doesn't look too good of a situation for Bush, it could eventually turn out quite well. Unless of course Justin Fargas has hired Fred Taylor's strength and conditioning trainers.

Outlook: If the rehab from his injury went well and he can return to prior form, the Raiders could end up with a potent duo of McFadden and Bush for years to come.
Not so fast! :mellow: First, Bush is doing most of his damage right now against guys who will be bussing tables next week. I don't think there will be many carries left over after Fargas and McFadden get their touches. In fact, I'm not yet convinced that Bush will even be the goal line back everyone seems to think he'll automatically be. If either of the bellcows go down, well, of course then all bets are off.

 
Not a fan, but some like the WASH guy as a flier.

Marcus Mason.

Lots of rookies for "what ifs" - Hester in SD, Tashard Choice in DAL.

Deep dark horse is Garrett Wolfe in CHI.

You have to mention STL backups Brian Leonard and Antonio Pittman.

Brian Calhoun?

Chris Perry?

Andre Hall?

 
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Not a fan, but some like the WASH guy as a flier.Marcus Mason.Lots of rookies for "what ifs" - Hester in SD, Tashard Choice in DAL.Deep dark horse is Garrett Wolfe in CHI.You have to mention STL backups Brian Leonard and Antonio Pittman.Brian Calhoun?Chris Perry?Andre Hall?
Definately Hester and Tashard Choice, probably Brian Leonard....again.Brian Calhoun, I guess. I think in Detroit if it got to that situation to where Calhoun was the ball carrier, it would never be all Calhoun but a junk RBBC with him, Cason and Artoose "is lose" Pinner.
 
I've been taking Ray Rice in every league :) He could either be good all year with Willis hurting, or he could have good (better) value after first week or 2, plays Cincy week 1 :lmao:

 
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Nice work. Two points:

Mike Hart (IND) - The main knock against Mike Hart is that he's a working mans RB. He succeeds through hard work, desire and the will to succeed. Although he had one of the most impressive runs I have ever seen in high school, he's basically the epitimy of the term 'workhorse back'. He won't be juking out defenders, but will continue to run at them until he succeeds in running them over. The Colts appear set with Dominic Rhodes as the current backup to Joseph Addai, but the more Hart is around, the more he'll impress the coaches.

Outlook: Rhodes isn't going to stand in Hart's way for very long. It may take a while, but Hart should chip away at his shot at Addai's backup catch by catch and run by run.
Maybe Indy homers can chime in here, but I'd be surprised if Hart overtakes Rhodes in '08. I love his long-term potential as much as anyone, I just don't think they brought Rhodes back to make him a 3rd-stringer.
Michael Bush (OAK) - Although Justin Fargas is likely to be splitting snaps with Darren McFadden to start the year, it's up in the air how it will eventually go. Fargas looked impressive last year but is injury prone and fast approaching the age of 30. Despite what at first glance doesn't look too good of a situation for Bush, it could eventually turn out quite well. Unless of course Justin Fargas has hired Fred Taylor's strength and conditioning trainers.

Outlook: If the rehab from his injury went well and he can return to prior form, the Raiders could end up with a potent duo of McFadden and Bush for years to come.
Not so fast! :lmao: First, Bush is doing most of his damage right now against guys who will be bussing tables next week. I don't think there will be many carries left over after Fargas and McFadden get their touches. In fact, I'm not yet convinced that Bush will even be the goal line back everyone seems to think he'll automatically be. If either of the bellcows go down, well, of course then all bets are off.
I agree that Rhodes will be the RB2 this year as well. I just think that we're going to see him slowly but surely gain the job through a good game here, a good appearance there. By the end of the year though I think it's going to be obvious who's on the way up and who's on the way down.Very true about Bush. Although Fargas is injury prone and should Bush get the shot I just foresee a 70/30 McFadden/Bush split as being the Raiders committee going forward. Even if Fargas doesn't get injured this year, and I may be absolutely wrong, I think the Raiders will realize that his ceiling isn't very high. Serviceable, but not what Bush could give them.

Not a fan, but some like the WASH guy as a flier.

Marcus Mason.

Lots of rookies for "what ifs" - Hester in SD, Tashard Choice in DAL.

Deep dark horse is Garrett Wolfe in CHI.

You have to mention STL backups Brian Leonard and Antonio Pittman.

Brian Calhoun?

Chris Perry?

Andre Hall?
I was going to put Mason in there but I don't know.. something just doesn't strike me as top material with him. I'll add him to the list, though. Same for Hester, although I'm a bit more high on him. Adding him as soon as this is done being typed.

To be honest, I don't know much about Garrett Wolfe and must have overlooked him. Looking him up and adding him as well.

I wasn't impressed with Brian Leonard at all last year. I don't think he'll amount to a legit starting RB, especially with Antonio Pittman there. Totally overlooked him too, and Pittman will be added.

Brian Calhoun has been in the position to make a move for the past two years. If he had so much promise, I don't think they would have taken Kevin Smith and catapulted him towards the starting position. But I'm definitely open to be enlightened about him (as with everyone) should anyone have some intriguing info.

Fred Jackson is a good call.

I think Deshaun Foster could be added to this list.
I'll add Deshaun only on the merit of Frank Gore's injury risks.. he'd be serviceable if he got most of the reps.
 
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Greg Jones is a FB and when Taylor retires he's still going to be a FB. They drafted him to be a FB and after some initial resistance he's learned to excel at it.

 
Danny Ware,NYG- He could be in the mix at some point. I'm not sure what the Giants are going to do with him but I don't think they can sneak him on to the practice roster(if he's eligible). Maybe another trade ala Ryan Grant?

 
Chris Perry?Andre Hall?
JP is the voice of reason.Perry looking good (healthy and productive for now :eek: ) and even though the word is Rudi is in "the best shape of his career", he's already dinged.And if anyone still has the stomach for playing the DEN RB lottery, Hall looks like the sneaky play as a late round pick. He's already getting early game / 1st team reps in pre-season, and looks to be the better inside/goal line guy (for now anyway) - even though he's smaller. And Selvin hasn't proven to be extremely durable OR capable of being a 20 carry/game kind of RB.
 
Tim Hightower (ARI) - The buzz out of Arizona (and right here on the boards!) is all about fifth round rookie RB Tim Hightower. Reportedly, he’s passed J.J. Arrington and Marcell Ship on the depth chart and is now the direct backup behind the aging and questionable Edgerrin James. Although Edge has never really been what you could call an injury risk, that could change with each extra year he plays in the NFL.

Outlook: Although it would be hard to imagine Edge falling off the map completely this year or even the next, Hightower finds himself in position many other talented young backup RB’s would kill for: The next in line behind an aging veteran.

Handcuff value: Couldn’t hurt
Shipp was already cut. JJ is awful. I think Edge sucks at the goalline. Wasn't the case prior to his knee injury a bunch of years ago, but his TD numbers have really fallen off. In 2006, with Edge scored 6 TDs on 337 carries, while the aforementioned Shipp scored 4 TDs on just 17 carries. Granted, different coaching staff and 3 of those TDs came in one game. I guess my point is that I can potentially see Hightower as a TD vulture with Edge around and much more should Edge get hurt.

 
I'm looking at Slaton & Rice as the two I really want to gobble up on draft day. I think these two will pay the best dividends by Week 17.

I do think that LaMont Jordan has a shot in NE to put up some numbers. With their reluctancy to put Moroney in the endzone, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had Maroney get to the line and let Jordan punch it in. But hey, who am I to outguess the evil genius himself?

 
Not a fan, but some like the WASH guy as a flier.Marcus Mason.Lots of rookies for "what ifs" - Hester in SD, Tashard Choice in DAL.Deep dark horse is Garrett Wolfe in CHI.You have to mention STL backups Brian Leonard and Antonio Pittman.Brian Calhoun?Chris Perry?Andre Hall?
Marcus Mason has looked great in camp and in preseason games, and unless you play in a 20 team 20 roster spot league, there is no reason he should be on a roster. He is fighting to be the 4th back in Washington, and between his positive play and Ladell Betts tweaking his knee, has probably succeeded. But no more then that.
 
Nice work. Two points:

Mike Hart (IND) - The main knock against Mike Hart is that he's a working mans RB. He succeeds through hard work, desire and the will to succeed. Although he had one of the most impressive runs I have ever seen in high school, he's basically the epitimy of the term 'workhorse back'. He won't be juking out defenders, but will continue to run at them until he succeeds in running them over. The Colts appear set with Dominic Rhodes as the current backup to Joseph Addai, but the more Hart is around, the more he'll impress the coaches.

Outlook: Rhodes isn't going to stand in Hart's way for very long. It may take a while, but Hart should chip away at his shot at Addai's backup catch by catch and run by run.
Maybe Indy homers can chime in here, but I'd be surprised if Hart overtakes Rhodes in '08. I love his long-term potential as much as anyone, I just don't think they brought Rhodes back to make him a 3rd-stringer.
Rhodes is definitely the backup RB this year. We'll see in 2009 if that changes.
 
I have done lots of looking into the whole handcuff axioms. I am not sure it really is the best FF answer in ALL situations. First, I only want a back up that can get close to the same FF numbers as the guy he is replacing. If C Portis goes down then Betts has proven he can excel and will put up similar numbers. Second, take a guy like Chirs Johnson. His value is not that dependent on any other TENN RB. Lendale being decent or a complete bust should not affect Johnson's FF Value too much as it looks like he will be an outside and out of the backfield threat.

Third, I hear guys talking about getting Chester as a back up for ADP. Chester will get his but he is not any near ADP's value if he becomes the main man.

In short, I want the back up that give me the most value if he becomes the man. Just getting a back up for the sake of a handcuff is not enough reason for me.

 
hoochiemama said:
I have done lots of looking into the whole handcuff axioms. I am not sure it really is the best FF answer in ALL situations. First, I only want a back up that can get close to the same FF numbers as the guy he is replacing. If C Portis goes down then Betts has proven he can excel and will put up similar numbers. Second, take a guy like Chirs Johnson. His value is not that dependent on any other TENN RB. Lendale being decent or a complete bust should not affect Johnson's FF Value too much as it looks like he will be an outside and out of the backfield threat.Third, I hear guys talking about getting Chester as a back up for ADP. Chester will get his but he is not any near ADP's value if he becomes the main man.In short, I want the back up that give me the most value if he becomes the man. Just getting a back up for the sake of a handcuff is not enough reason for me.
The main question to ask is, "is this guy good enough (both talent and opportunity) to be in my starting lineup if the guy he's handcuffing goes down?"It'd be kinda pointless to roster a guy like Hester if he would remain on your bench even if LT tore his ACL.
 
Most handcuffs are a waste of a roster spot unless you're in large and/or dynasty leagues. Period. Most of those mentioned are all extremely dark horses for any real production this year.

 
Jeff Pasquino said:
Andre Hall?
I think this guy has as good of chance as anyone mentioned in this thread of busting into the top 25 this year. He looked excellent running the ball against Dallas' 1st team defense. He may be smaller than Selvin, but he's much better at breaking tackles, imo. There was one play where he literally ran over Zach Thomas, and he looked solid running the ball near the goalline. Hall is going undrafted in some leagues and he can be had very late, so there's minimal risk. Meanwhile there's some major reward potential, especially when you factor in Selvin's injury history.
 
hoochiemama said:
I have done lots of looking into the whole handcuff axioms. I am not sure it really is the best FF answer in ALL situations. First, I only want a back up that can get close to the same FF numbers as the guy he is replacing. If C Portis goes down then Betts has proven he can excel and will put up similar numbers. Second, take a guy like Chirs Johnson. His value is not that dependent on any other TENN RB. Lendale being decent or a complete bust should not affect Johnson's FF Value too much as it looks like he will be an outside and out of the backfield threat.

Third, I hear guys talking about getting Chester as a back up for ADP. Chester will get his but he is not any near ADP's value if he becomes the main man.In short, I want the back up that give me the most value if he becomes the man. Just getting a back up for the sake of a handcuff is not enough reason for me.
I wont put Chester on ADP's level, but Chester is a Top 30 back when ADP is healthy and a Top 10 back if ADP goes down. Minny runs the football. A lot.
 
I'm curious to know what you guys think of Mewelde Moore on the Steelers this year. It seems like he's going to be used a bit like Kevin Faulk is for the Pats. I always thought he was very talented - maybe even on par with Westbrook - but was strangely underutilized in Minnesota even before they drafted Peterson.

Could he be valuable in PPR leagues this year as a fantasy backup?

 
with the frailty of Gore/Foster

how about a post-hype deep sleeper MRobinson and even comatose Thomas Clayton

 
I gotta tell ya I have been very impressed with Chris Perry. I know I know...he can't stay on the field. But apparently he is over his ankle issues and bigger and faster than ever before. He looks like a man playing for his NFL life right now. He also has great hands, something Rudi does not have.

I believe if he stays healthy (and that is the all mighty question) he ends up being the primary back in Cincy. I think Rudi is toast as a feature back. Kenny Watson and Perry may end up being the RB tandem in bengal town all year.

Anyone else see what I am seeing with Perry thus far. He has looked very impressive and we know what he can do in the NFL given his sample size when he was healthy. I gotta believe the team really wants this kid to pull through and become their workhorse.

 
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I'm curious to know what you guys think of Mewelde Moore on the Steelers this year. It seems like he's going to be used a bit like Kevin Faulk is for the Pats. I always thought he was very talented - maybe even on par with Westbrook - but was strangely underutilized in Minnesota even before they drafted Peterson.

Could he be valuable in PPR leagues this year as a fantasy backup?
Maybe some value in a PPR IF he gets some sort of regular role in passing/3rd down capacity. But considering FWP is healthy, and Mendy is the new 'toy', I don't see much opportuntiy here (aside from injury to either guy above him).I've been hanging on to him since late last year in a dynasty, and will likely be dropping him next week when rosters cut down to 24. He would have been a decent value play had Mendy not been drafted.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
hostile said:
No love for Lorenzo Booker? :hot:
:eek:
Why not? Also, put me down for some Derrick Ward.
Because the bulk of fantasy points, should they be vacated by Westy, will go to Buckhalter.Booker may assume much (not all) of the Westy scat role - but that role will be marginalized to producefar less points for Booker as compared to what Bucky will get.
 
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I'm curious to know what you guys think of Mewelde Moore on the Steelers this year. It seems like he's going to be used a bit like Kevin Faulk is for the Pats. I always thought he was very talented - maybe even on par with Westbrook - but was strangely underutilized in Minnesota even before they drafted Peterson.

Could he be valuable in PPR leagues this year as a fantasy backup?
Maybe some value in a PPR IF he gets some sort of regular role in passing/3rd down capacity. But considering FWP is healthy, and Mendy is the new 'toy', I don't see much opportuntiy here (aside from injury to either guy above him).I've been hanging on to him since late last year in a dynasty, and will likely be dropping him next week when rosters cut down to 24. He would have been a decent value play had Mendy not been drafted.
I agree you're probably right, but my thinking is this. In 2008 (and I mean that, only this year) Mendenhall is certainly the guy who gets the bulk of the work if FWP goes down, that is if he doesn't beat out FWP outright for the job, but with everyone healthy wouldn't MeMo fill the traditional 3rd down/scat back role, with FWP and Mendenhall switching off as the primary RBs in the base offense in first and second downs, i.e. FWP is the starter, and Mendenhall spells him or vice-versa?
 
I'm curious to know what you guys think of Mewelde Moore on the Steelers this year. It seems like he's going to be used a bit like Kevin Faulk is for the Pats. I always thought he was very talented - maybe even on par with Westbrook - but was strangely underutilized in Minnesota even before they drafted Peterson.

Could he be valuable in PPR leagues this year as a fantasy backup?
Maybe some value in a PPR IF he gets some sort of regular role in passing/3rd down capacity. But considering FWP is healthy, and Mendy is the new 'toy', I don't see much opportuntiy here (aside from injury to either guy above him).I've been hanging on to him since late last year in a dynasty, and will likely be dropping him next week when rosters cut down to 24. He would have been a decent value play had Mendy not been drafted.
I agree you're probably right, but my thinking is this. In 2008 (and I mean that, only this year) Mendenhall is certainly the guy who gets the bulk of the work if FWP goes down, that is if he doesn't beat out FWP outright for the job, but with everyone healthy wouldn't MeMo fill the traditional 3rd down/scat back role, with FWP and Mendenhall switching off as the primary RBs in the base offense in first and second downs, i.e. FWP is the starter, and Mendenhall spells him or vice-versa?
I don't think MeMo will have much fantasy value at all in Pittsburgh. Don't forget that they also have Gary Russell, who the coaches seem to like quite a bit.Also, based on what I've seen and heard so far, Mendenhall will not supplant FWP as the starter this year. Parker looks fully recovered and Mendenhall hasn't done anything yet to show that he's the better back at this point. 2009 could be a different story.

 
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I'm curious to know what you guys think of Mewelde Moore on the Steelers this year. It seems like he's going to be used a bit like Kevin Faulk is for the Pats. I always thought he was very talented - maybe even on par with Westbrook - but was strangely underutilized in Minnesota even before they drafted Peterson.

Could he be valuable in PPR leagues this year as a fantasy backup?
Maybe some value in a PPR IF he gets some sort of regular role in passing/3rd down capacity. But considering FWP is healthy, and Mendy is the new 'toy', I don't see much opportuntiy here (aside from injury to either guy above him).I've been hanging on to him since late last year in a dynasty, and will likely be dropping him next week when rosters cut down to 24. He would have been a decent value play had Mendy not been drafted.
I agree you're probably right, but my thinking is this. In 2008 (and I mean that, only this year) Mendenhall is certainly the guy who gets the bulk of the work if FWP goes down, that is if he doesn't beat out FWP outright for the job, but with everyone healthy wouldn't MeMo fill the traditional 3rd down/scat back role, with FWP and Mendenhall switching off as the primary RBs in the base offense in first and second downs, i.e. FWP is the starter, and Mendenhall spells him or vice-versa?
I don't think MeMo will have much fantasy value at all in Pittsburgh. Don't forget that they also have Gary Russell, who the coaches seem to like quite a bit.Also, based on what I've seen and heard so far, Mendenhall will not supplant FWP as the starter this year. Parker looks fully recovered and Mendenhall hasn't done anything yet to show that he's the better back at this point. 2009 could be a different story.
What is FWP's contract situation? Is it out of the realm of possibility that he's not even on the team next year?
 
hoochiemama said:
Third, I hear guys talking about getting Chester as a back up for ADP. Chester will get his but he is not any near ADP's value if he becomes the main man.In short, I want the back up that give me the most value if he becomes the man. Just getting a back up for the sake of a handcuff is not enough reason for me.
You might want to double check your stats. In the two games ADP didn't play last year, Chester Taylor ran for a combined 270+ yards and 4 TDs. An average of 135+ yards/game and 2 TDs/game would be fairly close to ADP's value, imho. The reason Taylor is (or should be) valued by ADP owners is the fact that he IS one of the few that can come in and replace ADP and play close to ADP's output, simply because of Minnesota's O-line and commitment to run the ball.
 
I'm curious to know what you guys think of Mewelde Moore on the Steelers this year. It seems like he's going to be used a bit like Kevin Faulk is for the Pats. I always thought he was very talented - maybe even on par with Westbrook - but was strangely underutilized in Minnesota even before they drafted Peterson.

Could he be valuable in PPR leagues this year as a fantasy backup?
Maybe some value in a PPR IF he gets some sort of regular role in passing/3rd down capacity. But considering FWP is healthy, and Mendy is the new 'toy', I don't see much opportuntiy here (aside from injury to either guy above him).I've been hanging on to him since late last year in a dynasty, and will likely be dropping him next week when rosters cut down to 24. He would have been a decent value play had Mendy not been drafted.
I agree you're probably right, but my thinking is this. In 2008 (and I mean that, only this year) Mendenhall is certainly the guy who gets the bulk of the work if FWP goes down, that is if he doesn't beat out FWP outright for the job, but with everyone healthy wouldn't MeMo fill the traditional 3rd down/scat back role, with FWP and Mendenhall switching off as the primary RBs in the base offense in first and second downs, i.e. FWP is the starter, and Mendenhall spells him or vice-versa?
I don't think MeMo will have much fantasy value at all in Pittsburgh. Don't forget that they also have Gary Russell, who the coaches seem to like quite a bit.Also, based on what I've seen and heard so far, Mendenhall will not supplant FWP as the starter this year. Parker looks fully recovered and Mendenhall hasn't done anything yet to show that he's the better back at this point. 2009 could be a different story.
What is FWP's contract situation? Is it out of the realm of possibility that he's not even on the team next year?
He's signed through 2009. I think he gets about $3.5 million next year. I doubt that they would get rid of him, but if Russell comes along who knows.
 
Most handcuffs are a waste of a roster spot unless you're in large and/or dynasty leagues. Period. Most of those mentioned are all extremely dark horses for any real production this year.
A lot of people are in large/dynasty leagues. Period.
 
BigSteelThrill said:
BigSteelThrill said:
hostile said:
No love for Lorenzo Booker? :thumbdown:
:lmao:
Why not? Also, put me down for some Derrick Ward.
Because the bulk of fantasy points, should they be vacated by Westy, will go to Buckhalter.Booker may assume much (not all) of the Westy scat role - but that role will be marginalized to producefar less points for Booker as compared to what Bucky will get.
Where does Tony Hunt fit into the mix? Does he hold any value in deeper dynasty leagues?
 
BigSteelThrill said:
BigSteelThrill said:
hostile said:
No love for Lorenzo Booker? :thumbdown:
:lmao:
Why not? Also, put me down for some Derrick Ward.
Because the bulk of fantasy points, should they be vacated by Westy, will go to Buckhalter.Booker may assume much (not all) of the Westy scat role - but that role will be marginalized to produce

far less points for Booker as compared to what Bucky will get.
Does he hold any value in deeper dynasty leagues?
Sure he does. Must be patient though. The team has a nice stable currently.

He has plenty of time to earn some reps.

 
Mr Capicollo said:
thecardiackid said:
Mr Capicollo said:
I'm curious to know what you guys think of Mewelde Moore on the Steelers this year. It seems like he's going to be used a bit like Kevin Faulk is for the Pats. I always thought he was very talented - maybe even on par with Westbrook - but was strangely underutilized in Minnesota even before they drafted Peterson.

Could he be valuable in PPR leagues this year as a fantasy backup?
Maybe some value in a PPR IF he gets some sort of regular role in passing/3rd down capacity. But considering FWP is healthy, and Mendy is the new 'toy', I don't see much opportuntiy here (aside from injury to either guy above him).I've been hanging on to him since late last year in a dynasty, and will likely be dropping him next week when rosters cut down to 24. He would have been a decent value play had Mendy not been drafted.
I agree you're probably right, but my thinking is this. In 2008 (and I mean that, only this year) Mendenhall is certainly the guy who gets the bulk of the work if FWP goes down, that is if he doesn't beat out FWP outright for the job, but with everyone healthy wouldn't MeMo fill the traditional 3rd down/scat back role, with FWP and Mendenhall switching off as the primary RBs in the base offense in first and second downs, i.e. FWP is the starter, and Mendenhall spells him or vice-versa?
Even if you're right, what could/would the net (production) possibly be?Maybe 3-4 catches for 30-40 yds? TDs would be impossible to predict (if any).

i.e. his absolute best case scenario would be Kevin Faulk's production in NE. Maybe worth a flex start in extremely desperate times, but otherwise - meh. Isn't he the current kickoff returner anyway? That job (MJD aside) doesn't bode well for ANY NFL (starting quality in FF) RB.

IMO his ONLY value is if:

1. FWP or Mendy gets hurt (significantly)

2. Mendy cannot pass protect (not too much of a stretch here) and Ben is at risk w/ him in the game.

Part time scat back / 3rd down specialist is essentially un-rosterable unless you're in very deep (talking around 30 rosters slots) leagues.

 
Todem said:
I gotta tell ya I have been very impressed with Chris Perry. I know I know...he can't stay on the field. But apparently he is over his ankle issues and bigger and faster than ever before. He looks like a man playing for his NFL life right now. He also has great hands, something Rudi does not have.I believe if he stays healthy (and that is the all mighty question) he ends up being the primary back in Cincy. I think Rudi is toast as a feature back. Kenny Watson and Perry may end up being the RB tandem in bengal town all year.Anyone else see what I am seeing with Perry thus far. He has looked very impressive and we know what he can do in the NFL given his sample size when he was healthy. I gotta believe the team really wants this kid to pull through and become their workhorse.
i have targeted Perry in 2 dynasty leagues. I think he will be the #1 RB, if healthy, at some point this season.
 
So who is the better option in a dynasty league, Chris Perry or Tim Hightower?
I'd say clearly Perry. Hightower's a nice story, but the guy comes from a small school and doesn't figure to start for his team this year even under the best of circumstances unless Edge gets injured. Perry is a very good RB prospect from a major college program, and as I've pointed out elsewhere, whatever you want to say about his injuries his team has waited a remarkable amount of time for him to get healthy because of the level of talent he brings. Hightower may end up being very good, but IMHO he has more to overcome to do so, and it will take longer. In a year I might have a very different answer.
 
This thread realy got me upset when I started to see people mention A. Hall, but then I realized no one in my two large leagues use this site. They try to figure out my VBD sheet every year and think it is way out of wack. Then I finish in the money.

Hall is a great late sleeper. Mad Mike loves to move is RBs around with out and reasoning, so Hall could get a start out of the blue and he looks like the better short yardage guy. Young also has concerns about how well he will hold up and Hall can help take some of those carries right away.

Steve Slaton looks like a guy that could get a good chance to play during the season. C. Brown and A. Green have shown they can not stay healty. If Green would get cut Slaton value would have to go up even more.

Funny thing about backup RBs is it seems some owner thinks he can draft one of the top guys to trade him. Last 3 years I have Michael Turner get drafted by the same owner thinking he could trade. Problem is he wants too much for him every year and gets stuck with him. Handcuff buzz has really hurt chances of getting good backups at a good value.

 
This thread realy got me upset when I started to see people mention A. Hall, but then I realized no one in my two large leagues use this site. They try to figure out my VBD sheet every year and think it is way out of wack. Then I finish in the money.

Hall is a great late sleeper. Mad Mike loves to move is RBs around with out and reasoning, so Hall could get a start out of the blue and he looks like the better short yardage guy. Young also has concerns about how well he will hold up and Hall can help take some of those carries right away.

Steve Slaton looks like a guy that could get a good chance to play during the season. C. Brown and A. Green have shown they can not stay healty. If Green would get cut Slaton value would have to go up even more.

Funny thing about backup RBs is it seems some owner thinks he can draft one of the top guys to trade him. Last 3 years I have Michael Turner get drafted by the same owner thinking he could trade. Problem is he wants too much for him every year and gets stuck with him. Handcuff buzz has really hurt chances of getting good backups at a good value.
:thumbup: especially the bolded part. I think LJ set the bar too high a couple of years ago.

 

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