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Some pretty significant Cedric Benson news (1 Viewer)

Thomas Jones probably ratted him out.
If he did, I hope he tears an ACL. I never wish that sort of thing on anyone, but if he did something like that, he deserves whatever happens to him. Maybe Cedric will kick his a-r-s-e.
Perhaps the fact that you own Benson and your division rival owns TJ has something to do with that... :banned:
No, not at all. Actually, if TJ did rat out Benson, maybe an ACL tear is too harsh. Maybe a broken leg is appropriate.
I'm not in the business of calling other posters "idiots," but I find myself tempted today.
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Another way is to say that if Jones was really concerned about his job, he wouldn't have been making noise about his contract, and would have been to the offseason program. He knew Benson was there, he knew that they wanted Benson to get more carries.

But he was nothing but bad news this offseason, right? Complaints about the deal, not showing up for voluntary workouts, which are about as voluntary as taxes. Then getting his hamstring hurt, and missing most of camp. Sounds similar to Benson last year.

Now, Jones does have a valid claim to the job, IMO. But he needs to understand that the Bears want to see what they have in Benson. Jones opened that door for the Bears, with the offseason he had.
....and people want to make Cedric Benson into a monster, what a bunch bull.
 
Why is Jones so beloved? Why is Benson so hated? This thread is weird.
I like Jones from when he was a Buc. I dislike Benson from when he was a Wronghorn, er, Longhorn. :D Actually, the funny thing is, if you look at the entire thread, I don't think things started quite as polarized as they ended up. People seemed to like Jones and dislike Benson (or vice versa). As we argue, er, debate :D we seem to magnify like to beloved and dislike to hate. :thumbdown: I don't REALLY hate Benson, I'm just not sure he's "all that", where Jones has shown me that he can do big things. If Benson played for many other teams in the league I'd say, "Heck yeah, give him a shot!" But he plays behind a guy that I feel earned the job two years ago who has been nothing but wronged by the team since. Just my opinion.
 
Jones > Benson...always has been.
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I just dont understand this love for Jones....please explaine....he has had one productive year out of six...Does that make him the automatic starter???? I think not....Sure Benson My have some maturity/attitude problems.But he was not payed Millions for his personality..Jones Knows he is a lesser Runner than Benson or he would not have pulled his stunt this off season...This seems clear to me
Everyone talks about Jones being a team player, but somewhere here is a thread with an interview of Thomas Jones, that clearly has him coming off as self-centered. Me, Me, Me, Me.
C'mon Chuck, you can do better than that...I'm too lazy to find the interview, but I know the one you're talking about. All he's doing is answering the questions he's being asked, and most of them related to his feelings on his own position on the team. I think everyone realizes that if he weren't a team player, his teammates wouldn't support him the way they do.
By Mike Mulligan of the Chicago Sun Times (link at bottom)A reluctant speaker who spent most of training camp allowing others to lay out the case of why he should be starting, Jones gave an exclusive interview to the Sun-Times this week in which he revealed his love of the Bears, his desire to remain the starter and his belief that the so-called running back battle has been ''ridiculous'' and ''a distraction to my team.''

Q. There is an old adage in the NFL that you don't lose your job to injury, which apparently means you shouldn't be the starter when Cedric Benson returns from his shoulder injury. But how do you lose your job in the offseason?

A. I didn't do anything to lose my job. I didn't come to the offseason program because I chose to work out with my own trainer. Then I come back for minicamp, and I'm running with the second team. You lose your job by performance. You don't lose your job by not showing up for the offseason program. Coaches make decisions based on what they think, I guess.

Q. Did Lovie Smith explain it to you?

A. No, not really. I showed up, and I was running with the second team. Well, with the first team and the second team, but Cedric was going first. It wasn't really explained to me. It was just like, I wasn't there in the offseason program, and he felt like he had to do something as far as rewarding the guys who were there.

Q. Did you find that strange?

A. It's weird because in my position for the last two years, I feel like I have been a very important part of the offense and the team. I've earned my stripes -- not only in this league, but definitely in Chicago with this team. To me, if you lose your job because you decided to work out with someone else to get better for the team, that's something I don't understand. But that's not my decision. Lovie made the decision. I've never been the kind of guy to get into ''he said/she said'' talk about a coach or a teammate.

Q. You have been a loyal teammate. Is it hard to keep that up?

A. I love being here in Chicago. It's a great city, great fans, great football city, just a great place to play football. I try to worry about what I can control. My mind-set is that I am a starting NFL running back, whether I am on the Chicago Bears or any other team. I know the offense. I know the game. I am experienced. I am smart on the field and off the field. I work really hard in the offseason. I work really hard during the season trying to take care of my body. I am a starter in the NFL. My numbers say that.

Q. You rushed for 1,335 yards last year. What should that say for your status on this team?

A. In my eyes, I am no different than Olin Kreutz or Brian Urlacher or Wale Ogunleye. I mean that much to this team. I am one of the core players here, and I feel I have proven that over the last two years. I'm not the kind of guy that is going to come out and say something bad about coaches or other running backs. I come out here and do what I am asked to do and let things happen the way they happen. Of course, you can't come out and say everything you want to. I'll just make sure I am ready.

Q. Why is it that Rex Grossman isn't competing for a job but you are? Is there a hypocrisy in that? Shouldn't everybody who has a job either keep his job or compete for his job?

A. Obviously, you know a lot of reasons for that. I don't like to say anything. I just know you don't lose your job because you didn't come to an offseason program, especially me. I am a workout warrior. I work out every day. I work out on Saturdays and Sundays because, No. 1, I like to take care of my body, and No. 2, it's going to make me the best football player I can be and last the whole season.

So I'm not here for the offseason program -- which is voluntary; it's not mandatory. The team is here, granted. But I felt like I would benefit more by working out with my own trainer. Meanwhile, I come back in the best shape you can possibly be in, and I'm told I lost my job. You don't lose your job because you didn't show up for a voluntary program. I say that over and over because it just baffles me sometimes that people don't understand that. You don't lose your job because you don't show up to an offseason program, especially after the good production.

Q. No one knows why you were upset in the offseason. Did anyone say anything to you about having to battle for your job with Benson? Did you want a trade? Was it about money or respect?

A. Management makes decisions that they feel like are best for the team. It's sort of a messed-up league because one minute you sign a contract, yeah, but you are outplaying the contract. You are playing like one of the top guys in the league, but you are not getting paid for what you are doing. It's frustrating for the player, but at the same time, a guy will play really good and he'll deserve a roster bonus in his contract, but they will cut him because they won't play him. It's definitely not [a system] set up for the players.

Q. Is it a flaw in the system that rookies drafted in the top 10 command more money than proven players, and then teams are forced to get them on the field to justify the pick?

A. It's tough how it's set up, but that is something as players we can't control. We just have to hope the organization respects your work, respects your effort and pays you accordingly. But this whole situation here, my mind-set is that I am a starting running back regardless of what else might be going on. I don't get into saying anything about Cedric. He did what he had to do to get drafted. I'm a guy who has been around and knows the offense.

Q. Do you feel the Bears have been disloyal to you?

A. I feel like by being here, I finally had an opportunity to do what I was supposed to do in Arizona. People who don't play the game don't understand how hard it is when you don't have a passing game and the defense is game-planning to stop you. It's tough because the whole game there are not going to be holes because the offensive line can't block everybody. My first year we went through four different starting quarterbacks. If [defenses] don't respect the receivers, then they are not going to back up. I don't have an opportunity to make a lot of guys miss because they are on me whenever I get the ball.

You understand that and you start making plays. And then game in and game out, you are the only guy really making plays. The next year they bring another guy in as if you are not the answer, and you were really the only bright spot that whole season. But that is the NFL. It's a business. They have their own agenda and what they feel they have to do. Then last year, I went through what I had to go through to get some yards.

Q. It was said the Bears brought you in because of your cutback skills. The St. Louis Rams wanted you, too, as a replacement for Marshall Faulk because they believed you were perfect for that style of offense. When that offense failed here and Terry Shea was run out, maybe it made sense to draft a power runner for Ron Turner's scheme. Could it have been as simple as that?

A. I feel like I can be in any offense and run it. I can run outside or inside or cut back. I can catch the screen pass. You can line me up in the slot and you put me one-on-one against a linebacker, and nine times out of 10, I make that play. You can line me out wide, and I'll run any route a receiver can run. Once you get labeled, it's kind of hard. People like to label guys, but in the end, it's football. I can understand Warrick Dunn is not a power back. He's 180 pounds. I'm 215 pounds.

Q. You haven't done much talking, but Cedric said from Day 1 it was going to be his job. Did it bother you that he was predicting he'd take your job nearly from the moment he signed?

A. Honestly, that's something I don't even want to get into. Cedric is a young guy. To me, it's simple: You don't produce the way I have produced and be an integral part of this team and a good teammate and a leader and lose your job. You are no longer a starter? Why? I try not to say a lot, but you have people saying things like you can't lose your job to injury. Was it really your job in the first place?

Q. The defense seemed to be making a statement in your favor by taking an extra shot at Cedric here and there. Is that the way you saw it?

A. It's practice. You are going to get hit, but getting hit in practice is just getting thudded. In a game, they are trying to take your head off. When you get thudded, that's the only way [the defense] can get better, to hit. If they don't hit you in practice, then when they get in a game, a guy might miss tackles. They have to hit you. They have to thud you. In the game, it's totally different. There is not going to be any control, and they are really coming after you.

Q. Do you get along with Benson?

A. I feel like this is my group. I'm the oldest running back here. I am the veteran of the group, and I feel like I have to be a mentor. If I see someone do something wrong, anyone, then naturally -- whether it's P.J. Pope or Adrian [Peterson], even if it's Cedric -- I'm going to say: 'That safety is coming up on the back side there, and you should watch out for him. He might not show that he's coming until the last minute.' Me and [running backs coach Tim] Spencer are tight. He knows I understand what he understands -- not just what I am supposed to do, but why I have to do it. I understand all that stuff. I watch it on film. I study it. I take a lot of pride in it.

Q. Did it bother you that people thought you were faking the hamstring injury?

A. I didn't listen to any of that. The thing is, I ran a lot more in the offseason than they did here. Wale Ogunleye came down on the weekends and we worked out together, and he said that. When I got here for camp, I was up at 7 o'clock in the morning for a physical, and I didn't know I had to run. I thought I was going to run after the team meeting. I could have stretched out and warmed up, jumped in a hot tub. I didn't, and I tweaked my hamstring.

Q. Has the so-called running back competition been a distraction?

A. It's ridiculous. I feel like there is no question who the starter is, who the guy is. Everyone knows. It shouldn't be an issue. I am the starting running back. I look at it like this is my offense. [He laughs.] I mean, this is my offense.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/bears/cst-spt-bear17.html
:lmao: C'mon Chuck, read the questions that those responses were to!
Of course he's selfish, and I don't blame Jones. Could he have been a bit more reserved, sure, but let's look at things from his perspective.Jones earned every dollar he made, running behind a bad offensive line two years ago, with a potpourri of garbage at quarterback, and had an excellent season last year, playign with a rookie qb.

Jones earned the admiration of his team and fans, and Benson just proved himself to be injury prone. He couldn't remain healthy.

Suddenly, Jones' job is being handed to this kid who didn't earn it. I'd be pissed too. Look, I understand that economics is dictating these actions, but I can't blame Jones for being pissed. he earned the starting role and should at least have a right to fight it out for the starting role.

I think Benson is seriously talented, but Jones has proven to be the healthier and more reliable of the two. If Benson gets healthy and takes the job away from Jones, so be it. That would either mean that he is the better player, Jones is injured, or Jones' play has deteriorated. Whatever is best for my team.
What you say?
I said that Jones has proven himself to be the healthier of the two. Jones started 15 and 14 games respectively the past two seasons. Benson missed camp, started 1 game and missed a ton(six straight games) after suffering a knee injury.

Benson is now, once again banged up with a bad shoulder.

Understand now?

 
Of course he's selfish, and I don't blame Jones. Could he have been a bit more reserved, sure, but let's look at things from his perspective.Jones earned every dollar he made, running behind a bad offensive line two years ago, with a potpourri of garbage at quarterback, and had an excellent season last year, playign with a rookie qb.Jones earned the admiration of his team and fans, and Benson just proved himself to be injury prone. He couldn't remain healthy.Suddenly, Jones' job is being handed to this kid who didn't earn it. I'd be pissed too. Look, I understand that economics is dictating these actions, but I can't blame Jones for being pissed. he earned the starting role and should at least have a right to fight it out for the starting role.I think Benson is seriously talented, but Jones has proven to be the healthier and more reliable of the two. If Benson gets healthy and takes the job away from Jones, so be it. That would either mean that he is the better player, Jones is injured, or Jones' play has deteriorated. Whatever is best for my team.
That's one way to look at Jones. Another way is to say that if Jones was really concerned about his job, he wouldn't have been making noise about his contract, and would have been to the offseason program. He knew Benson was there, he knew that they wanted Benson to get more carries. But he was nothing but bad news this offseason, right? Complaints about the deal, not showing up for voluntary workouts, which are about as voluntary as taxes. Then getting his hamstring hurt, and missing most of camp. Sounds similar to Benson last year.Now, Jones does have a valid claim to the job, IMO. But he needs to understand that the Bears want to see what they have in Benson. Jones opened that door for the Bears, with the offseason he had.
I fully agree with you. Jones does come off as greedy. Had he shut his yap about his contract and come into camp, Jones would look far better in the media and to the fans.
 
Klecko HOF said:
I said that Jones has proven himself to be the healthier of the two. Jones started 15 and 14 games respectively the past two seasons. Benson missed camp, started 1 game and missed a ton(six straight games) after suffering a knee injury.Benson is now, once again banged up with a bad shoulder.Understand now?
Yeah I've heard that Thomas Jones is referred to as the "Cal Ripken of the NFL"
 
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Benson has proven nothing to his teammates and he should shut his mouth, watch, learn and listen, and perfrom when called upon. It's not his job in the eyes of his teammates.
I keep hearing this, and with amazement I'm beside myself thinking, of course he hasn't proven anything, because he hasn't had his shot yet. Duh!!! I believe Benson would win the poll on who is the more talented RB.
You're missing the point, the guy should shut his mouth until he has proven something. So far he has been all talk and no action. He proclaimed he would have 2,000 yards last year and 1,700 yards this year. At this point I would be happy if he could just stay on the field.
In a way I agree, in another I disagree. We are all tired of the canned interview responses such as "I just want to go out and try to get better" or "now's my chance, I am just going to go out there and give 110%". If anyone has read the article from a few years back on Benson in ESPN the Magazine he gave his honest opinion then and he is giving his honest opinion now. He has said that he wants to be as honest as possible with the people behind the cameras (the fans) but now has to back off that. Of course, when he speaks his mind he is a nutcase. When he gives canned responses we all call bull####. Keep in mind the guy is 23, famous, and rich. All of these things are going to go to his head. Should he be diplomatic...absolutely until he proves his worth. I don't own either of the guys because it is too volatile of a situation IMO. I am a Bears homer, however, and though I totally respect what Jones has done I think we have seen his best. I think Benson offers more but I can't prove that until he gets on the field.
 
Here's Tribune staff reporter John Mullin's take on the Bears' third exhibition game.

A clue to the pending decision in the Thomas Jones-Cedric Benson contest at running back may have been provided 10 years ago in Miami. Jimmy Johnson said at the end of training camp that rookie Zach Thomas would be his starting middle linebacker, not a proven veteran two years removed from a Pro Bowl. Asked why Thomas and not the vet, Johnson said simply, "Because Zach is better."

Jones' three yards on four carries in less than a half Friday night can be excused as first-game issues coming back from a strained hamstring. The decision to move Benson ahead of Jones in the off-season, however, had less to do with the money paid to Benson than to the simple fact that coaches believe Benson is better—or at least soon will be. Jones was better in 2005; this isn't 2005.

The ethic of the NFL isn't that the most experienced guy plays. It is that the best guy plays.

The Bears drafted, and paid, Benson not because they didn't like Jones. They simply think Benson is better. If Jones, entering his seventh season, wanted to make a rebuttal argument, Friday wasn't his best case. If the Bears think Benson is better, he should start.
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Here's Tribune staff reporter John Mullin's take on the Bears' third exhibition game.

A clue to the pending decision in the Thomas Jones-Cedric Benson contest at running back may have been provided 10 years ago in Miami. Jimmy Johnson said at the end of training camp that rookie Zach Thomas would be his starting middle linebacker, not a proven veteran two years removed from a Pro Bowl. Asked why Thomas and not the vet, Johnson said simply, "Because Zach is better."

Jones' three yards on four carries in less than a half Friday night can be excused as first-game issues coming back from a strained hamstring. The decision to move Benson ahead of Jones in the off-season, however, had less to do with the money paid to Benson than to the simple fact that coaches believe Benson is better—or at least soon will be. Jones was better in 2005; this isn't 2005.

The ethic of the NFL isn't that the most experienced guy plays. It is that the best guy plays.

The Bears drafted, and paid, Benson not because they didn't like Jones. They simply think Benson is better. If Jones, entering his seventh season, wanted to make a rebuttal argument, Friday wasn't his best case. If the Bears think Benson is better, he should start.
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But.....But.....

His teammates don't like him.

 

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