Some value I like in this year's draft so far... (1 Viewer)

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I've been in quite a few drafts so far this year and have an opinion on what I think are some value plays. If you filled your team each round with a player who actually lives up to his draft slot, you have yourself a winning team. I have some guys I think will meet their ADP and some pretty good longshots who I think may surpass their ADP as well.

Rounds 3-5

RB E. Graham- He's being drafted at RB 19 and overall 38. If you've been drafting, you may have noticed that Wr's are flying off the board starting late 1st round thru late 3rd round. If you're a drafter who wants your 2nd and 3rd round picks to be WR's, Graham is a solid 4th round option.

WR's- I don't see a lot of value at WR. You need 2 WR's in your first 4 rounds to stay with your draft, so plan accordingly. I think there's a big dropoff after the Greg Jennings, Lions WR's and S. Holmes group. That next tier starts with Bowe and Harrison (yes, I know many are liking Harrison now).



QB's- No value. If I'm going QB, I might as well go Brady. He'll have a monster year so if I'm buying early, it's him or I wait.

Rounds 5-10

RB Johnathon Stewart RB 25 and Overall 53.

Will compete for ROY if he stays healthy. He'll start, Fox likes to run and Stewart is good. He's already impressing the coaches near the goaline.

RB Rudi Johnson, RB 27 and overall 55

Will he be all the way back? I expect him to be closer to the guy we knew 2 years ago than the guy we saw last year. Rudi was too light last year, under 215 pounds. He's bulked back up to about 230 pounds and lost body fat. His primary focus has been leg strength, his problem last season.

WR Santana Moss Wr 31 and overall 79

With the addition of 2 rookie WR's, all the focus is on them. Meanwhile, Moss is focused on showing the rookies just how to play this game at the pro level. Moss is a competitive guy and drafting 2 rookies in the 2nd round may have sparked him just a bit. I like Moss in the late 7th and early 8th rounds, a very solid WR3, allowing you some wiggle room in your middle rounds knowing you can get a quality player there at WR.

WR Patrick Crayton WR 37 and 103 Overall

Crayton is a WR 2 on a very talented passing offense. His blunder in the playoffs last season has actually been a blessing in disguise for fantasy owners because all offseason long, all people could think of his that Dallas needs another WR, leading people to think Crayton just isn't that good. The truth is Crayton is a young receiver, he moved forward last season and has every right to make gains again this year. He's worked hard in camp and has purposely been working opposite of Pro Bowl corner T. Newman.

QB Aaron Rodgers QB 17 and overall 109

Before this season, I didn't know if it was Rogers or Rodgers. We've seen his name so many times linked to Farve this summer it's burned into my long term memory forever I think. Simply said, I predict Aaron Rodgers will make the Pro Bowl this season.

10th round and Beyond

WR Vincent Jackson WR 40 and Overall 110

Right around round 10 and 11, get Jackson. I watched Jackson last year and I felt he was coming into his own. I think he's earning Rivers trust and he makes for an outstanding WR 5 who will perform like a WR3.

RB DeShaun Foster RB 59 and 178 Overall

Not a lot of talk about this backup, but he fits perfectly into that offense. If anything should happen to Gore during the season, Foster's natural pass catching ability will work well in that offensive scheme.

WR Amani Toomer- WR 69 and overall 212

It's been since 1997 that Amani Toomer hasn't finished higher than his current ADP of WR 69. The Giants have a solid pass offense and Buress has his own issues whether it be contract talk or injury issues. I look for Toomer to finish just inside WR 50, making him valuable in larger leagues, survivor and Best Ball formats.

RB Darren Sproles RB 75 and overall 222

With Turner in Atlanta, the backup to Lt 2 is valuable. All of a sudden rookie RB Hester out of LSU is the hot pickup. I'm not buying it until I see it. What I did see last year is Sproles play well against some good teams. He single handedly beat the Colts on Monday night and helped them win a playoff game. Heaven forbid if Lt2 being injured becomes more frequent, Darren Sproles can play. I like this play as one of your last picks in a Survivor or Best Ball League where there are 20 plus rounds. This could be a diamond in the rough or at a minimum, a guy who spells LT2 when they're up by 21 in the 2nd half.

These selections weren't focused on any type of league specifically. You can bump or drop back players according to your league rules. When I talk about rounds, I'm thinking of leagues that are 12 in size.

 

[jaylasoul14]

I like some of your picks but really disagree about qb part. Neither Peyton or Romo will be there in round 3, however im targeting drew brees as my 3rd round pick in every draft im in. Also, Carson Palmer makes a great 5th rounder, lock for 4000 yards and 25 tds. He was the number 1 ff qb a few years back

 

[BLOX]

Rudi Johnson and Ahman Green are absolutely wonderful values this year. PLus, their backups can be had for peanuts. Limited rosters may want to stay away or just focus on one, but if you have the room on your roster.......

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Rudi Johnson and Ahman Green are absolutely wonderful values this year. PLus, their backups can be had for peanuts. Limited rosters may want to stay away or just focus on one, but if you have the room on your roster.......

For me, Ahman Green is a little more difficult of a pill to swallow. I don't really like Green and you can't really get him that cheap.

 

[Iron_Far]

Solid writeup.

 

[thecardiackid]

WR Patrick Crayton WR 37 and 103 Overall

Crayton is a WR 2 on a very talented passing offense. His blunder in the playoffs last season has actually been a blessing in disguise for fantasy owners because all offseason long, all people could think of his that Dallas needs another WR, leading people to think Crayton just isn't that good. The truth is Crayton is a young receiver, he moved forward last season and has every right to make gains again this year. He's worked hard in camp and has purposely been working opposite of Pro Bowl corner T. Newman.

Crayton has a good chance to out perform his ADP (agreed), but he's not young. I was surprised to learn (in F&L's dynasty blog) that he's 29.5 @ this point. Putting together my contract offers for a dynasty league free agent period - I was surprised to find out he's that old. Thanks for sharing your value thoughts w/ the pool.

 

[Marc Levin]

Rudi Johnson and Ahman Green are absolutely wonderful values this year. PLus, their backups can be had for peanuts. Limited rosters may want to stay away or just focus on one, but if you have the room on your roster.......

For me, Ahman Green is a little more difficult of a pill to swallow. I don't really like Green and you can't really get him that cheap.

8th/9th round isn't cheap for a starting RB?Regardless, I LOVE Rudi's value this year. I truly believe the rumors of his demise are premature I believe the team will try to work Perry in more between the 20s, and will give Rudi a few more blows mid-game with their other RBs, but I still see 300+ carries, and all the GL work, so potentially, double digit TDs. Either way, I like Rudi to return to at least 1200 yards rushing, and at least 8 TDs - as his floor.ETA - nice write up, though, iwannabe and I am generally in agreement with all your choices.

 

[TheFanatic]

WR Patrick Crayton WR 37 and 103 Overall

Crayton is a WR 2 on a very talented passing offense. His blunder in the playoffs last season has actually been a blessing in disguise for fantasy owners because all offseason long, all people could think of his that Dallas needs another WR, leading people to think Crayton just isn't that good. The truth is Crayton is a young receiver, he moved forward last season and has every right to make gains again this year. He's worked hard in camp and has purposely been working opposite of Pro Bowl corner T. Newman.

Crayton has a good chance to out perform his ADP (agreed), but he's not young. I was surprised to learn (in F&L's dynasty blog) that he's 29.5 @ this point. Putting together my contract offers for a dynasty league free agent period - I was surprised to find out he's that old. Thanks for sharing your value thoughts w/ the pool.

Holy crap, he is 29. I thought he was like 24. Wow....

 

[Buckna]

Rudi Johnson and Ahman Green are absolutely wonderful values this year. PLus, their backups can be had for peanuts. Limited rosters may want to stay away or just focus on one, but if you have the room on your roster.......

For me, Ahman Green is a little more difficult of a pill to swallow. I don't really like Green and you can't really get him that cheap.

Antsports has him at RB 37 and average position of 8.11 in a 12 teamer (earliest 6.09, latest 12.08). Seems pretty cheap for a RB3 or 4 to me?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Rudi Johnson and Ahman Green are absolutely wonderful values this year. PLus, their backups can be had for peanuts. Limited rosters may want to stay away or just focus on one, but if you have the room on your roster.......

For me, Ahman Green is a little more difficult of a pill to swallow. I don't really like Green and you can't really get him that cheap.

8th/9th round isn't cheap for a starting RB?Regardless, I LOVE Rudi's value this year. I truly believe the rumors of his demise are premature I believe the team will try to work Perry in more between the 20s, and will give Rudi a few more blows mid-game with their other RBs, but I still see 300+ carries, and all the GL work, so potentially, double digit TDs. Either way, I like Rudi to return to at least 1200 yards rushing, and at least 8 TDs - as his floor.ETA - nice write up, though, iwannabe and I am generally in agreement with all your choices.

I guess it's cheap if you like him. For me, I don't think he lasts as the true starter or he gets a little dinged. If he starts and stays healthy, he is a very solid value play and one I won't have.Good to hear you're in general agreement, sorry I don't have any Dolphins on this list! How about Fasano.......I like him late if you're waiting on a backup Te.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Rudi Johnson and Ahman Green are absolutely wonderful values this year. PLus, their backups can be had for peanuts. Limited rosters may want to stay away or just focus on one, but if you have the room on your roster.......

For me, Ahman Green is a little more difficult of a pill to swallow. I don't really like Green and you can't really get him that cheap.

Antsports has him at RB 37 and average position of 8.11 in a 12 teamer (earliest 6.09, latest 12.08). Seems pretty cheap for a RB3 or 4 to me?

Right, he's a RB3. Here's my problem. I draft him and he's my RB 3 and he sits because to start the season off I start my RB 1 and RB 2. My belief is that he doesn't last, so when I need him, bye weeks or whatever, he's not around.Again, if you think he's the guy there and he gets back to Green Bay form, he's a steal.

 

[dapunisher]

Nice analysis. I agree with the RB section, but I think that Graham, Stewart and Rudi will continue to climb up the rankings in August and by the time of most drafts later this month, it will be harder to steal those guys.

I like Santana this year under Zorn.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

WR Patrick Crayton WR 37 and 103 Overall

Crayton is a WR 2 on a very talented passing offense. His blunder in the playoffs last season has actually been a blessing in disguise for fantasy owners because all offseason long, all people could think of his that Dallas needs another WR, leading people to think Crayton just isn't that good. The truth is Crayton is a young receiver, he moved forward last season and has every right to make gains again this year. He's worked hard in camp and has purposely been working opposite of Pro Bowl corner T. Newman.

Crayton has a good chance to out perform his ADP (agreed), but he's not young. I was surprised to learn (in F&L's dynasty blog) that he's 29.5 @ this point. Putting together my contract offers for a dynasty league free agent period - I was surprised to find out he's that old. Thanks for sharing your value thoughts w/ the pool.

Young receiver wasn't the correct terminology, basically what I meant was he hasn't had a lot of playing experience as a starter. Two years ago he was a promising WR3 on Dallas, last year with Glenn hurt he was pushed into the starting role, I thought he played well but with all eyes on him in the playoffs, dropped a pass that may have caused the Cowboys a trip to the Super Bowl.The guy has outstanding hands, he was the punt returner for Pete's sake and because he dropped that pass somehow people think he has the dropsies. I think he plays solid this year.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Nice analysis. I agree with the RB section, but I think that Graham, Stewart and Rudi will continue to climb up the rankings in August and by the time of most drafts later this month, it will be harder to steal those guys.I like Santana this year under Zorn.

I think all the rookies with the hyperbole that's out there will move up. This week alone I've heard how good Chris Johnson, McFadden, Felix Jones and J. Stewart all look. It's easy to buy into all this hype. In horse racing, you actually throw out all the horses in a race everyone is going gaga over and pick the one you hear the least about.I think Rudi will slowly climb but never get into the 3rd round tier and I think Graham won't move much either. Graham may go mid 3rd but I can't see him going any lower than that.

 

[travdogg]

The two best values I've seen are:

Todd Heap in round 9 and Donovan McNabb in round 7.

If I knew I could get those guys there I wouldn't have taken anything but RB's and WR's the first six rounds.

I'll second Vincent Jackson, I got him in the 11th round as my WR4 and couldn't be happier about it.

 

[Warhogs]

Good posting. I agree with a lot of this. I have ony been in a draft or two but here are my observations which are very close.

QB - Nothing has really sttod out. McNabb has been going a bit later but I'm not very confident in him myself.

RB - Rudi Johnson was my first guy that stood out as value as well. The other guy for me is LenDale White. He looks like a potential value play.

WR - The first name I had too was Marvin Harrison. I think his value may start climbing pretty fast though so maybe a small window of opportunity here. I also thought Reggie Williams was looking like a great late buy low but now he has injury issues so maybe a great buy even lower?

Not a lot of new thoughts here but thought I would post anyway.

 

[brady2moss]

QB value this year is Marc Bulger. He can be had in rounds 7-9. Load up on you WRs and RBs and compliment your team with Bulger in the 8th. He could win you league for you this year!!!

WR value Mushin Muhammad. He can be had in the 14th round. I think he the #2 on that team and is back with Delhomme and a great combo with Steve Smith on the field. Decent red zone target.

RB value Graham Rudi and would also throw in Lendale White. You you potential grab these (3) guys and link them up with TO. Reggie Wayne, and Chad Johnson or Plax. That would be sick

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

QB value this year is Marc Bulger. He can be had in rounds 7-9. Load up on you WRs and RBs and compliment your team with Bulger in the 8th. He could win you league for you this year!!!

WR value Mushin Muhammad. He can be had in the 14th round. I think he the #2 on that team and is back with Delhomme and a great combo with Steve Smith on the field. Decent red zone target.

RB value Graham Rudi and would also throw in Lendale White. You you potential grab these (3) guys and link them up with TO. Reggie Wayne, and Chad Johnson or Plax. That would be sick

In my most recent draft, Bulger went in the 9th along with Rodgers. I think if you could get those guys round 8 and 9 or rounds 9 and 10, that would be special.That leaves you 7 to 8 rounds to grab a TE where value falls in your draft and most importantly allows you to pound starting RB's and Wr's, scooping up a ton of talent. What's great about Rodgers and Bulger are they are guys who I think will be weekly top 10 performers and on given weeks with solid matchups top 5. That's how I would like my drafts to unfold.

 

[Marc Levin]

Good to hear you're in general agreement, sorry I don't have any Dolphins on this list! How about Fasano.......I like him late if you're waiting on a backup Te.

I anticipate a good number of 3rd down looks inside the 20 yard line as teams stack up against the run. And if, for some reason, Boss lasts late, I love him as late TE value.Wilford is the real Dolphin value. Ginn may give you spotty games worth a starting WR3 spot. But,especially in a PPR, I like the number of looks Wilford is likely to get.Ricky Williams is looking like he might make good value for the first month of the season. The 'phonms have a week 4 bye, and I expect Ronnie Brown to be going full bore by that point, but Ricky might be the man to have for the first month.

 

[gianmarco]

QB -- Agree with Bulger and would also add Delhomme, although in a few drafts I've seen people reach for him.

RB -- Agree with most here and will add Ricky Williams to the list. I think there's going to be some disappointed Ronnie Brown owners this year and Ricky has a chance to get off to a very fast start. If for nothing else, he'll accumulate a lot of trade value for Brown owners early on and this guy is lasting into the 11th+ rounds in most drafts that I've seen. Another one I like is Kenny Watson who is going even later and at minimum should see playing time and if Rudi falters, could see considerably more. Finally, not nearly as cheap as the others, but I think W. Parker is falling farther than he should be and is lasting even later than Rudi. I know many here think that Mendenhall is going to be this year's 2nd coming, but I wouldn't close the book on Parker that early just yet. This guy was a 1st round pick last year (even moreso than Rudi) and put up some great yardage #'s until he got hurt.

WR -- There's a new guy that I'm starting to focus my attention on and that's Brandon Stokley. Last year, he finished with 40/635/5. Nothing exceptional, but for an almost last round pick, you could do much worse. He's going to climb a bit now I think with all the Marshall news, but I think he has value regardless and can only go up. Factor in that the #2 spot right now is between DJax and Colbert, both of whom are new to the team, and I think Cutler will find Stokley in the slot both because of how well he does there as well as some added familiarity.

TE -- McMichael is screaming value to me as a #2 backup TE that you can wait pretty long for. I've detailed in a few places why I like him, but this is a guy who languished in Miami who came to St. Louis last year and did virtually nothing because of injuries to the O-line and had to stay in and block. Think Witten in 2006. He may not be Tony G., but he's still a talented TE (on par with Cooley) in an offense that lost it's #2 WR option and is dirt-cheap right now.

 

[Marc Levin]

I think Rudi will slowly climb but never get into the 3rd round tier and I think Graham won't move much either. Graham may go mid 3rd but I can't see him going any lower than that.

Complete agreement - unless there are injuries to the guys ranked ahead of them, they pretty much are where they are.Especially Rudi. There is a slight chance that, with a tremendous preseason and an injury to Perry, he moves into the mid-late 3rd. As it stands, I think he'll continue to be a guy selected at any point between 4.06 (which is 54th overall) and the end of the 5th. If you are in a league with guys that draft on name recognition, he could go earlier.

 

[Marc Levin]

The two best values I've seen are:Todd Heap in round 9 and Donovan McNabb in round 7.

Website "Expert's" league, PPR - my picks:3.10 Edge7.10 Todd Heap8.03 Donovan McNabb10.03 Jay CutlerI also like getting late value at WR: both DJax and Stokely after the 15th. Ike Hilliard at 16.03.Those were my favorite value picks in that draft.

 

[Marc Levin]

I also thought Reggie Williams was looking like a great late buy low but now he has injury issues so maybe a great buy even lower?

I think the one to look for is Jerry Porter whose leg injury has seen him falling way too far in drafts. He should be ready to play in game onie, but even if not, he'll still be their best receiving option this year.

 

[jaylasoul14]

What do people think of Willie Parker as a value pick, I feel him in the 4th round is a steal. He may not score that much, but the guy will never face 8 in the box with sweed, holmes, and ward. This is fwp we are talking about

1400 rushing yards and 7 tds, great rb2

 

[Workhorse]

I really like the value of Bernard Berrian in the 8th round or later. Seems like the Vikes are going to try to go down the field to keep teams from stacking 8-9 in the box and Berrian is a very tough cover one-on-one on go routes. If the Vikes take a handful of long ball shots each game, Berrian could put up some nice numbers in a hurry.

I'm targeting him in all my leagues this year in mid-late position.

 

[simey]

WR value Mushin Muhammad. He can be had in the 14th round. I think he the #2 on that team and is back with Delhomme and a great combo with Steve Smith on the field. Decent red zone target.

I don't know if he will be the #2 or #3, or it will be 2a and 2b. He will definitely be in the mix, and his chemistry with Delhomme is still great. Moose is also a good blocker. However, DJ Hackett has been looking very good in camp, and is kicking some butt in the red zone over the last couple days, hauling in three touchdowns.

 

[Bl Deep]

I like some of your picks but really disagree about qb part. Neither Peyton or Romo will be there in round 3, however im targeting drew brees as my 3rd round pick in every draft im in. Also, Carson Palmer makes a great 5th rounder, lock for 4000 yards and 25 tds. He was the number 1 ff qb a few years back

Palmer is no lock for 4k....did you watch last year at all?????? The lack of oline is dangerous for him.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I really like the value of Bernard Berrian in the 8th round or later. Seems like the Vikes are going to try to go down the field to keep teams from stacking 8-9 in the box and Berrian is a very tough cover one-on-one on go routes. If the Vikes take a handful of long ball shots each game, Berrian could put up some nice numbers in a hurry. I'm targeting him in all my leagues this year in mid-late position.

I respect your opinion but a guy like Berrian, I'm just ice cold on. I just don't like the Minny passing game at all and taking a guy like Berrian in the 8th round when I can take Santana Moss late 7th or early 8th just doesn't seem appealing to me.

 

[Fullback Fro]

I like some of your picks but really disagree about qb part. Neither Peyton or Romo will be there in round 3, however im targeting drew brees as my 3rd round pick in every draft im in. Also, Carson Palmer makes a great 5th rounder, lock for 4000 yards and 25 tds. He was the number 1 ff qb a few years back

Palmer is no lock for 4k....did you watch last year at all?????? The lack of oline is dangerous for him.

Benglas O-Line is pretty solid. Whats you reasoning that its lacking?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

What do people think of Willie Parker as a value pick, I feel him in the 4th round is a steal. He may not score that much, but the guy will never face 8 in the box with sweed, holmes, and ward. This is fwp we are talking about1400 rushing yards and 7 tds, great rb2

I'm chillie on Willie. I had him two years ago and he helped me out a lot and I didn't have him last year, so it's not like I'm bitter. I just don't like the way the new coaching staff used Willie, he just didn't see the goaline carries he saw two years ago. Throw in the fact that now you have Mendenhall on the team, it makes it scary drafting Chillie Willie in the 4th when you can go E. Graham, Rudi Johnson, McFadden or J. Stewart.

 

[Warhogs]

What do people think of Willie Parker as a value pick, I feel him in the 4th round is a steal. He may not score that much, but the guy will never face 8 in the box with sweed, holmes, and ward. This is fwp we are talking about1400 rushing yards and 7 tds, great rb2

I'm chillie on Willie. I had him two years ago and he helped me out a lot and I didn't have him last year, so it's not like I'm bitter. I just don't like the way the new coaching staff used Willie, he just didn't see the goaline carries he saw two years ago. Throw in the fact that now you have Mendenhall on the team, it makes it scary drafting Chillie Willie in the 4th when you can go E. Graham, Rudi Johnson, McFadden or J. Stewart.

I also am staying away from Willie. His greatest value will be in the start of the season as Mendenhall gets worked into the mix. I don't see him being a major contributer come fantasy football playoff time. You could take a chance on him starting out strong and being able to move him a few weeks into the season but I am just steering away from that.

 

[Tanner9919]

RB Darren Sproles RB 75 and overall 222

With Turner in Atlanta, the backup to Lt 2 is valuable. All of a sudden rookie RB Hester out of LSU is the hot pickup. I'm not buying it until I see it. What I did see last year is Sproles play well against some good teams. He single handedly beat the Colts on Monday night and helped them win a playoff game. Heaven forbid if Lt2 being injured becomes more frequent, Darren Sproles can play. I like this play as one of your last picks in a Survivor or Best Ball League where there are 20 plus rounds. This could be a diamond in the rough or at a minimum, a guy who spells LT2 when they're up by 21 in the 2nd half.

but lets keep that on the Q-T..the down-low..shhhhhhhh!

 

[Banger]

RB Darren Sproles RB 75 and overall 222

With Turner in Atlanta, the backup to Lt 2 is valuable. All of a sudden rookie RB Hester out of LSU is the hot pickup. I'm not buying it until I see it. What I did see last year is Sproles play well against some good teams. He single handedly beat the Colts on Monday night and helped them win a playoff game. Heaven forbid if Lt2 being injured becomes more frequent, Darren Sproles can play. I like this play as one of your last picks in a Survivor or Best Ball League where there are 20 plus rounds. This could be a diamond in the rough or at a minimum, a guy who spells LT2 when they're up by 21 in the 2nd half.

but lets keep that on the Q-T..the down-low..shhhhhhhh!

keep an eye on the situation but as of now it looks like Hester may be the guy you guys are looking for.As far as "undervalued" wr's, I like Roddy White. He's being drafted at about #24 wr and he finished about 15th last year. I think his downside is where he's being drafted at.

I'm not a big Graham fan and actually think Dunn is being undervalued bigtime. Even Gruden's quotes in the training camp report indicate that Graham's touches will get cut back and the Dunn is the perfect back for the offense. He went further to talk about his burst, etc. For an RB51 ADP and 161 off the board he's definitely worth a look. They didn't go out and pay him $3 mill for nothing.

 

[Buckeyedawgs]

Looking these over seen some good ones and some not so good ones.

Patrick Crayton? not consistent enough plus I have a feeling Cowboys are going to sign Chris Henry now that 4 game suspenson is handed out and he can practice.

I will add a great qb value. Kurt Warner. Yes the same blah blah blah on Leinart as every year but do you know that dude averaged over 24 points a game in the 8 games he started in standard scoring leagues. That was over 4 points better then any other qb not named Brady last year and only 4 behind Brady's record breaking performance. And even counting all the games he was only a sub he still ended up only a half pt. APG on year less then Peyton.

Heck of a value at bottom end of QB-2'S. I don;t see Leinart starting more then a couple games this year if that. He can;t make reads or something. He just doesnt have what it takes proven over 3 years.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Looking these over seen some good ones and some not so good ones.Patrick Crayton? not consistent enough plus I have a feeling Cowboys are going to sign Chris Henry now that 4 game suspenson is handed out and he can practice. I will add a great qb value. Kurt Warner. Yes the same blah blah blah on Leinart as every year but do you know that dude averaged over 24 points a game in the 8 games he started in standard scoring leagues. That was over 4 points better then any other qb not named Brady last year and only 4 behind Brady's record breaking performance. And even counting all the games he was only a sub he still ended up only a half pt. APG on year less then Peyton. Heck of a value at bottom end of QB-2'S. I don;t see Leinart starting more then a couple games this year if that. He can;t make reads or something. He just doesnt have what it takes proven over 3 years.

It's OK if Crayton isn't your cup of tea, we're talking about a guy with a ADP of WR 37, he finished 34 last year in his first year as a starter. I think he moves foward. How can we down Patrick Crayton because of an unsigned player in Chris Henry who's suspended 4 games and a chronic underachiever?? Leinert starts more than 2 games, he starts more than 4. I don't see Leinert being pulled that early, they need to find out if this guy is their future or not. You sound like you're in the camp that he's not, I'm more on that side too but regardless of that, you know Warner isn't the guy to lead this team in the upcoming years so they'll take a good long look at Leinert and give him every opportunity to succeed or fall down trying.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

RB Darren Sproles RB 75 and overall 222

With Turner in Atlanta, the backup to Lt 2 is valuable. All of a sudden rookie RB Hester out of LSU is the hot pickup. I'm not buying it until I see it. What I did see last year is Sproles play well against some good teams. He single handedly beat the Colts on Monday night and helped them win a playoff game. Heaven forbid if Lt2 being injured becomes more frequent, Darren Sproles can play. I like this play as one of your last picks in a Survivor or Best Ball League where there are 20 plus rounds. This could be a diamond in the rough or at a minimum, a guy who spells LT2 when they're up by 21 in the 2nd half.

but lets keep that on the Q-T..the down-low..shhhhhhhh!

keep an eye on the situation but as of now it looks like Hester may be the guy you guys are looking for.As far as "undervalued" wr's, I like Roddy White. He's being drafted at about #24 wr and he finished about 15th last year. I think his downside is where he's being drafted at.

I'm not a big Graham fan and actually think Dunn is being undervalued bigtime. Even Gruden's quotes in the training camp report indicate that Graham's touches will get cut back and the Dunn is the perfect back for the offense. He went further to talk about his burst, etc. For an RB51 ADP and 161 off the board he's definitely worth a look. They didn't go out and pay him $3 mill for nothing.

Ya, I know they signed their 3rd round rookie RB pick. I'm just saying I don't know how good that guy is, but I did see Sproles and I was impressed. If Lt2 wasn't in the game, that rookie better be playing at a high level right off the bat because Sproles is a little gamer. When he gets in there, he makes the most of it. LOL, defenses better not take a breather when LT is out or this dude can take it to the house. It's hard to even see him run thru some of those holes until it's too late.And on little swing passes, you better not put a slow linebacker on him because he'll beat him and now you're hoping for an open field tackle.

 

[Tondi]

I'm surprised to learn about Crayton's age too but I agree with your posting except for E. Graham who, although doesn't have much competition, IMO I'm not convinced he's the real deal. Thanks for the post.

 

[munchkin]

Looking these over seen some good ones and some not so good ones.

Patrick Crayton? not consistent enough plus I have a feeling Cowboys are going to sign Chris Henry now that 4 game suspenson is handed out and he can practice.

I will add a great qb value. Kurt Warner. Yes the same blah blah blah on Leinart as every year but do you know that dude averaged over 24 points a game in the 8 games he started in standard scoring leagues. That was over 4 points better then any other qb not named Brady last year and only 4 behind Brady's record breaking performance. And even counting all the games he was only a sub he still ended up only a half pt. APG on year less then Peyton.

Heck of a value at bottom end of QB-2'S. I don;t see Leinart starting more then a couple games this year if that. He can;t make reads or something. He just doesnt have what it takes proven over 3 years.

It's OK if Crayton isn't your cup of tea, we're talking about a guy with a ADP of WR 37, he finished 34 last year in his first year as a starter. I think he moves foward. How can we down Patrick Crayton because of an unsigned player in Chris Henry who's suspended 4 games and a chronic underachiever??Leinert starts more than 2 games, he starts more than 4. I don't see Leinert being pulled that early, they need to find out if this guy is their future or not. You sound like you're in the camp that he's not, I'm more on that side too but regardless of that, you know Warner isn't the guy to lead this team in the upcoming years so they'll take a good long look at Leinert and give him every opportunity to succeed or fall down trying.

Chris Henry has far more talent than Patrick Crayton. His problem is he can't stay out of trouble. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrayPa00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HenrCh00.htm

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Looking these over seen some good ones and some not so good ones.

Patrick Crayton? not consistent enough plus I have a feeling Cowboys are going to sign Chris Henry now that 4 game suspenson is handed out and he can practice.

I will add a great qb value. Kurt Warner. Yes the same blah blah blah on Leinart as every year but do you know that dude averaged over 24 points a game in the 8 games he started in standard scoring leagues. That was over 4 points better then any other qb not named Brady last year and only 4 behind Brady's record breaking performance. And even counting all the games he was only a sub he still ended up only a half pt. APG on year less then Peyton.

Heck of a value at bottom end of QB-2'S. I don;t see Leinart starting more then a couple games this year if that. He can;t make reads or something. He just doesnt have what it takes proven over 3 years.

It's OK if Crayton isn't your cup of tea, we're talking about a guy with a ADP of WR 37, he finished 34 last year in his first year as a starter. I think he moves foward. How can we down Patrick Crayton because of an unsigned player in Chris Henry who's suspended 4 games and a chronic underachiever??Leinert starts more than 2 games, he starts more than 4. I don't see Leinert being pulled that early, they need to find out if this guy is their future or not. You sound like you're in the camp that he's not, I'm more on that side too but regardless of that, you know Warner isn't the guy to lead this team in the upcoming years so they'll take a good long look at Leinert and give him every opportunity to succeed or fall down trying.

Chris Henry has far more talent than Patrick Crayton. His problem is he can't stay out of trouble. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrayPa00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HenrCh00.htm

We could argue about the talent thing but I'm not downgrading Patrick Henry until he's signed and on the team. You know how many wide receivers I've heard that is supposed to come or would be a good fit for the Cowboys?

 

[Marc Levin]

Looking these over seen some good ones and some not so good ones.Patrick Crayton? not consistent enough plus I have a feeling Cowboys are going to sign Chris Henry now that 4 game suspenson is handed out and he can practice. I will add a great qb value. Kurt Warner. Yes the same blah blah blah on Leinart as every year but do you know that dude averaged over 24 points a game in the 8 games he started in standard scoring leagues. That was over 4 points better then any other qb not named Brady last year and only 4 behind Brady's record breaking performance. And even counting all the games he was only a sub he still ended up only a half pt. APG on year less then Peyton. Heck of a value at bottom end of QB-2'S. I don;t see Leinart starting more then a couple games this year if that. He can;t make reads or something. He just doesnt have what it takes proven over 3 years.

It's OK if Crayton isn't your cup of tea, we're talking about a guy with a ADP of WR 37, he finished 34 last year in his first year as a starter. I think he moves foward. How can we down Patrick Crayton because of an unsigned player in Chris Henry who's suspended 4 games and a chronic underachiever?? Leinert starts more than 2 games, he starts more than 4. I don't see Leinert being pulled that early, they need to find out if this guy is their future or not. You sound like you're in the camp that he's not, I'm more on that side too but regardless of that, you know Warner isn't the guy to lead this team in the upcoming years so they'll take a good long look at Leinert and give him every opportunity to succeed or fall down trying.

I wrote the Leinart/Warner spotlight, so the depth of my thoughts are there, but a few points1) you can easily roster both cheaply2) if you have gambled late at QB and ended with a Manning/McNabb/Hasselbeck/Cutler type as your QB1, "the Arizona QB" is a good cheap late drafted QB2 to roster (of course, you have to carry theree QBs . . . )3) You will probably always know who is starting. You may not alway know who is finishing games. I would take the combo, but not just one or the other.The danger in the combo is Leinart playing well enough to win 9 games, but not well enough to be worth a fantasy start - because if that is the case, Warner won't see the field much, and the pair will be dead weight on your roster.

 

[munchkin]

Looking these over seen some good ones and some not so good ones.

Patrick Crayton? not consistent enough plus I have a feeling Cowboys are going to sign Chris Henry now that 4 game suspenson is handed out and he can practice.

I will add a great qb value. Kurt Warner. Yes the same blah blah blah on Leinart as every year but do you know that dude averaged over 24 points a game in the 8 games he started in standard scoring leagues. That was over 4 points better then any other qb not named Brady last year and only 4 behind Brady's record breaking performance. And even counting all the games he was only a sub he still ended up only a half pt. APG on year less then Peyton.

Heck of a value at bottom end of QB-2'S. I don;t see Leinart starting more then a couple games this year if that. He can;t make reads or something. He just doesnt have what it takes proven over 3 years.

It's OK if Crayton isn't your cup of tea, we're talking about a guy with a ADP of WR 37, he finished 34 last year in his first year as a starter. I think he moves foward. How can we down Patrick Crayton because of an unsigned player in Chris Henry who's suspended 4 games and a chronic underachiever??Leinert starts more than 2 games, he starts more than 4. I don't see Leinert being pulled that early, they need to find out if this guy is their future or not. You sound like you're in the camp that he's not, I'm more on that side too but regardless of that, you know Warner isn't the guy to lead this team in the upcoming years so they'll take a good long look at Leinert and give him every opportunity to succeed or fall down trying.

Chris Henry has far more talent than Patrick Crayton. His problem is he can't stay out of trouble. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrayPa00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HenrCh00.htm

We could argue about the talent thing but I'm not downgrading Patrick Henry until he's signed and on the team. You know how many wide receivers I've heard that is supposed to come or would be a good fit for the Cowboys?

Crayton seems to me to be more like Reggie Brown. You keep him on your roster as a backup hoping that he becomes consistent enough to be a #3 or #4 receiver on your fantasy roster but his game is so inconsistent that you don't trust playing him. I just don't like his game.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Looking these over seen some good ones and some not so good ones.

Patrick Crayton? not consistent enough plus I have a feeling Cowboys are going to sign Chris Henry now that 4 game suspenson is handed out and he can practice.

I will add a great qb value. Kurt Warner. Yes the same blah blah blah on Leinart as every year but do you know that dude averaged over 24 points a game in the 8 games he started in standard scoring leagues. That was over 4 points better then any other qb not named Brady last year and only 4 behind Brady's record breaking performance. And even counting all the games he was only a sub he still ended up only a half pt. APG on year less then Peyton.

Heck of a value at bottom end of QB-2'S. I don;t see Leinart starting more then a couple games this year if that. He can;t make reads or something. He just doesnt have what it takes proven over 3 years.

It's OK if Crayton isn't your cup of tea, we're talking about a guy with a ADP of WR 37, he finished 34 last year in his first year as a starter. I think he moves foward. How can we down Patrick Crayton because of an unsigned player in Chris Henry who's suspended 4 games and a chronic underachiever??Leinert starts more than 2 games, he starts more than 4. I don't see Leinert being pulled that early, they need to find out if this guy is their future or not. You sound like you're in the camp that he's not, I'm more on that side too but regardless of that, you know Warner isn't the guy to lead this team in the upcoming years so they'll take a good long look at Leinert and give him every opportunity to succeed or fall down trying.

Chris Henry has far more talent than Patrick Crayton. His problem is he can't stay out of trouble. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CrayPa00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HenrCh00.htm

We could argue about the talent thing but I'm not downgrading Patrick Henry until he's signed and on the team. You know how many wide receivers I've heard that is supposed to come or would be a good fit for the Cowboys?

Crayton seems to me to be more like Reggie Brown. You keep him on your roster as a backup hoping that he becomes consistent enough to be a #3 or #4 receiver on your fantasy roster but his game is so inconsistent that you don't trust playing him. I just don't like his game.

Fair enough and if you're chilly on Crayton, I can understand the comparison. All I'm saying is this is Crayton's 2nd year as a starter, he's only had one so far. So you don't like his game but he's only had 1 year as a starter. The other difference between the two is that Dallas has a better passing game than Philly does this year, which helps any receivers numbers. But I understand your opinion and when you don't like a guy, you don't like him.

 

[Itchy Amos]

Edgerrin James seems to have slipped to the 4-5 turn in the latest ADP that I can find. I just hope that position holds.

I think it is likely that Darrell Jackson, Isaac Bruce & Alge Crumpler will find their way onto my team this year. They can be had for next to nothing.

 

[ratbast]

QB-Shaub

RB-CBrown

WR-HWard

TE-BWatson

These guys will most likely find their way onto most of my rosters.

 

[travdogg]

QB-ShaubRB-CBrownWR-HWardTE-BWatsonThese guys will most likely find their way onto most of my rosters.

I really like Watson too. He's one of only a few TE's would could catch 8+ TD's.

 

[Mimo]

QB-Shaub

RB-CBrown

WR-HWard

TE-BWatson

These guys will most likely find their way onto most of my rosters.

Brown is having health problems already in Houston. The Texans signed Mike Bell yesterday to a 2 year deal. This could be a sign of how they are feeling about Brown.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

QB-ShaubRB-CBrownWR-HWardTE-BWatsonThese guys will most likely find their way onto most of my rosters.

Yes, I think they'll all get drafted.Thank you for you insight.

 

[madd futher]

PPR leagues (1st 8 rounds only):

Good value: James (ADP 4.12); T. Jones (ADP 4.07); McFadden (5.11)**; Stewart (ADP 6.08)**; Forte (ADP 7.12**); Jay Cutler (ADP 7.08)

Very Good Value: Cotchery (ADP 6.07); R. White (ADP 6.03) S. Moss (ADP 7.09) Galloway (ADP 8.06)

GREAT Value: Curtis (ADP 7.03); Coles (ADP 7.04); Engram (ADP 8.03)

While I've only really analyzed the 1st 8 rounds yet, some outstanding values outside round 8 are: Burleson (9.06); Chris Johnson (11.02)**; Mason (11.09).

My ADPs come from Antsports last 10 days mocks and are not necessarily based on PPR scoring, but these same guys are also strong values in PPR ADPs I've seen. **Note: I am genuinely suprised that these 4 rookies are such good values (McFadden & Chris Johnson becoming strong values in PPR only.

 

[Marc Levin]

QB-Shaub

RB-CBrown

WR-HWard

TE-BWatson

These guys will most likely find their way onto most of my rosters.

Yes, I think they'll all get drafted.Thank you for you insight.

I think you missed his point.

 

[dmac37]

These are the players I like this year at their current value and the reasons why.

QB

Bulger- Rams had so many injuries and problems last year, that everything should look up this year. Holt and S Jax are top weapons now, Burton and Avery should develop in the next couple of years once Holt has gone down. Saunders and a healthy o-line should help Bulger return to top 5-10 form.

Schaub- QB of a young upstart team that seems to be heading in the right direction. A healthy 2008 could produce the top QB/WR combo with Schaub & AJ.

RB

Gore- in this day of RBBC, Gore seems to be a RB that will get plenty of touches. SF was touted as a sleeper team last year but they were a little too young. With the group being a year older and Martz on board look for the offense to improve.

Bradshaw- valid concern is a full blown RBBC in NY. After watching the Giants playoff run, Bradshaw was the better RB during that stretch against the same competition in the same situation. Bradshaw will come much cheaper than Jacobs and will be used even if Jacobs is healthy and the starter.

WR

M. Kelly & K. Burton- I think both players are more NFL ready than the rookie WR's that were drafted ahead of them. Thomas & Avery were picked ahead of them mainly because of speed, other than speed both Kelly and Burton seem to be better football players and complete WR's. Injuries are a concern for both players and also brought down their draft stock.

Cotchery - most don't realize but he finished #19 & #20 the last two years in PPR leagues. If the Jets offense improves so should his TD's.

Boldin- has produced close to Fitz but always drafted later. Leinart seemed to go to Boldin more than Fitz. last year and Leinart should be the starter this year.

E. Bennet- has a great chance to be a starting go to possession PPR WR this year. Even with the offensive problems last year the Bears still threw the ball quite a bit.

TE

O. Daniels- glad I got him dirt cheap last year as his value has gone up, but still a good bargain. He is the 2nd option in the Texans passing game and should improve on his TD numbers.

McMichael- Saunders is known to force feed the TE and McMichaels has the talent to be the 2nd option in the passing game for the improved Rams.