Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This is a fact. It makes it a much more exciting (or traumatizing) finish if it’s not preordained to split.
And 29% of the kitty in a league that size isn’t a bad consolation prize.
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Splitting the pot among Super Bowl teams (1 Viewer)
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And 29% of the kitty in a league that size isn’t a bad consolation prize.
If anyone offered me a split, I would take it unless there was like 80% edge to my team or something. The most important thing to me in most fantasy leagues is getting the title and bragging rights. I wouldn’t be mad if someone didn’t want to split. Its just personal risk management right?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, my opponent and I get along well, have made several trades (I got Darnold from him when JJM was still vertical, he got AVGinkle from me when I was loaded at DE) so there would be no offense taken if I decline the split.
And like you, I care more about the bragging rights of winning a ship.
But my competitive nature + gut superstitions lean me towards not splitting & letting the chips fall where they may.
Yeah, pay structure is important here. Your league pays for each place. So if you get to the title game you get 29%.
Winner of that game gets 21%. So chopping 14% and letting the final 7% ride is what I would consider.
Golden Gopher
Footballguy
Took a split once, years ago. It was a 32-team league, and my best player at the time (Adrian Peterson) was doubtful to play in the final week. Seemed like a no-brainer to me, since there was about an 80/20 chance I was losing that matchup. But, for whatever reason, the league (or at least some of them) had a huge problem with it. insinuated collusion, which was laughable. Basically asked us to leave at season's end, which after the drama, was fine with me. I didn't know the guy that I split with, and clearly the others didn't understand how "collusion" works.
Here's the caveat to the splitting thing.... If the two teams involved have been making trades throughout the season, it becomes a questionable (or borderline bad) look, in my opinion. That wasn't what happened in my case. Neither of us had made any trades all season, much less with each other. But, in the instance where two teams trade in-season, and then split the pot at the end, it begs the question whether it was planned all along.
Now, granted, I get it... It's a plan that is a longshot of actually panning out. But, it is what it is... If two teams are "working together" by trading with each other (or maybe ONLY with each other), with the agreement that they split whatever winnings they end up with, it potentially gives those teams an unethical advantage in some situations.
Bottom line... I've done it once, never before and probably never again. And, generally speaking, I don't see a problem with it. What two teams decide to do during championship week is their business and their business only. That said, if there is any hint at all that they've been working together in-season or made the agreement to split prior to that point (either of which point toward collusion), that's a pretty bad look and I totally understand why people would have a problem with it.
Here's the caveat to the splitting thing.... If the two teams involved have been making trades throughout the season, it becomes a questionable (or borderline bad) look, in my opinion. That wasn't what happened in my case. Neither of us had made any trades all season, much less with each other. But, in the instance where two teams trade in-season, and then split the pot at the end, it begs the question whether it was planned all along.
Now, granted, I get it... It's a plan that is a longshot of actually panning out. But, it is what it is... If two teams are "working together" by trading with each other (or maybe ONLY with each other), with the agreement that they split whatever winnings they end up with, it potentially gives those teams an unethical advantage in some situations.
Bottom line... I've done it once, never before and probably never again. And, generally speaking, I don't see a problem with it. What two teams decide to do during championship week is their business and their business only. That said, if there is any hint at all that they've been working together in-season or made the agreement to split prior to that point (either of which point toward collusion), that's a pretty bad look and I totally understand why people would have a problem with it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Preposterous. Not even resembling collusion. At that point there’s a set amount of $ that will
for certain be split in some fashion between the final 2 teams.What % it’s split is the only variable here and it’s no one’s business but the 2 teams in the finals.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s also ridiculous.
This team and I have made a few trades in 2 different leagues. None of the trades were imbalanced. I got a bargain on Darnold who I dealt for as a handcuff after trading for JJM during the draft.
He got a bargain on AVGinkle when he didn’t lose a single step moving to a new defense.
But even if we’d made 20 trades, that still doesn’t mean we “coluded” just because we both made the finals.
Preposterous.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Not collusion.
Some folks have touched on this but for me it heavily depends on the size of the pot. My leagues are fairly low stakes (1st is probably ~300 bucks), and the game is more fun to watch when I’ve got money riding on it, so as it stands I’m not interested. If I were playing for a winner take all million and the other guy says “wanna both walk out with a guaranteed 500k?” Yeah sure, in a heartbeat (might push for a diff split if heavily favored). Line is somewhere in the middle, probably different for everyone.
I am a gambler when it comes to petty cash but do not have a gambling problem when it comes to life-change affecting (positively or negatively) amounts of money
Some folks have touched on this but for me it heavily depends on the size of the pot. My leagues are fairly low stakes (1st is probably ~300 bucks), and the game is more fun to watch when I’ve got money riding on it, so as it stands I’m not interested. If I were playing for a winner take all million and the other guy says “wanna both walk out with a guaranteed 500k?” Yeah sure, in a heartbeat (might push for a diff split if heavily favored). Line is somewhere in the middle, probably different for everyone.
I am a gambler when it comes to petty cash but do not have a gambling problem when it comes to life-change affecting (positively or negatively) amounts of money
rockaction
Footballguy
Man, the only thing I like less than chopped pots is telling other people what to do with their money and/or business. I can see where it brings up issues about collusion, though, so a little restraint on my end is in order.
Not saying it always is, but I can definitely see a case where it begets that charge.
Not saying it always is, but I can definitely see a case where it begets that charge.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
he proposed something new.
I agreed to a $1015/$815 split. I ain’t gonna quibble over $100
I agreed to a $1015/$815 split. I ain’t gonna quibble over $100
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I can’t.
I just think collusion is so far out in left field than 2 guys who made the LCG deciding a different split than mandated.
Who cares at that point? It’s only between those two people.
Neither colluded to get there - we worked our asses off to get there in this format.
rockaction
Footballguy
If a guy and his buddy are constantly making trades throughout the year that are lopsided and result in one team making the finals (assume it’s dynasty and there’s no trade deadline), then it could very well look like or be collusion.
Imagine a really high stakes game, too.
Just because your situation (granted, most situations arise organically) isn’t collusion doesn’t preclude others from wearing the tag. You have to consider all the possibilities before you say it never implicates collusion tactics.
But regardless, I’d say a chopped pot in your case is fine.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Right back atcha, bud. Enjoy your holiday and your winnings. That’s a good haul.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Guaranteed $815.
Right back atcha, bud. Enjoy your holiday and your winnings. That’s a good haul.
I’m in the finals in another league with $300 or $600
And I’m off all week and weekend so I get to watch more football than I have all year.
joey
Footballguy
I said upthread that in this case I probably wouldn’t split it and just play it out.
But seeing it written out with $815 guaranteed….I’ll make that deal too. Nice.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Couple hundy still enough to play for to keep it exciting, much higher guaranteed floor.
Now I can just hope I get the bragging rights and take home a
It really is not a worry for anyone else either. Immediately after the prizes have been awarded the season is officially over. The leagues responsibility and control of the prizes has been relinquished. M, O, O, N,.......that spells DONE.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s an old thread. It was 3 pages when I resurrected it.Frankly I don’t understand how this thread reached four pages. I don’t give awhat league members decide to do with their winnings. Why is that a thing?
joey
Footballguy
Ooof. Just random chance should say otherwise.
In long time work league of 29 years, I have my name on the trophy 5 times….more than anyone else #notSoHumbleBrag
A competitive yet random league. Any given year. Old school rules (no mandatory TE. Only moved to 1/2 ppr a few years ago)
In all those years, I don’t think anyone has ever mentioned splitting the top prize…but it’s just $100 buy in, so it’s not like $2k is on the line.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
jabarony
Footballguy
I won the first 2 years of the league. And then never again. I do pretty well in my other less-important local league, online leagues with strangers, national contests, etc. I just can't figure out how to beat drunks who draft with 2 month old fantasy magazines. Everyone's favorite taunts are centered around my success last century.
joey
Footballguy
I’m with you on the randomness of local league of buddies who do unpredictable things. You make fun of their reaches and their weird picks, and they make the playoffs while you’re at the bottom. Frustrating!I won the first 2 years of the league. And then never again. I do pretty well in my other less-important local league, online leagues with strangers, national contests, etc. I just can't figure out how to beat drunks who draft with 2 month old fantasy magazines. Everyone's favorite taunts are centered around my success last century.
