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I like Walter and Rashied Davis a lot too.

I think Devery Henderson is worth a late-round stash. Payton has said he is not on the roster bubble and that Meachum "still has a ways to go" before he's ready for a consistent role in the Saints' offense. Brees will throw for over 4,000 yards -- Henderson could get a good chunk of that, especially early on. His ADP is #239.

 
I have allways had pretty good luck(more often than not) picking a wr late, that is ready to break out, put up numbers that way out jusify his ADP. This year that guy for me is Kevin Walter. After AJ gets hurt Walter is going to be the main man. Evan when AJ is healthy, he will be drawing the double team leaving Walter one on one with the second corner. I am in what I think is a growing group of sharks that thinks Shaulb is going to out perform HIS ADP, so who else will he be targeting.Last year walter had over a 100 targets. thats pretty good for a guy that you can get in the 11th round or later.Who is your Sshhh guy?
Yeah I am in the boat with you on this one. Since my big$ league gives 1 point for receptions for WR and TE only it really makes him valuable. I also like Antonio Bryant in TB.
 
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Snag Bryant Johnson, Arnaz Battle, or Josh Morgan (already mentioned) and wait for Martz to start slinging the ball around in SF. The WR you pick might be useless or he may go for 1,000 and 6 TD's. "49er wideouts is the new Bronco running backs". Throw a dart at the depth chart and hope for a hit. :thumbup:
No Ike Bruce?
 
Balco said:
pecorino said:
rashied davis?
:goodposting: I think he is the most talented receiver on the Bears by far.
This was my last pick in a 14 round draft. I think a) the Bears will have to throw as they will play from behind, and b) Orton/Davis have already shown chemistry. I think he will outperform a lot of bigger names out there and in many leagues will be a hot FA pickup as soon as week 1.
 
I have allways had pretty good luck(more often than not) picking a wr late, that is ready to break out, put up numbers that way out jusify his ADP. This year that guy for me is Kevin Walter. After AJ gets hurt Walter is going to be the main man. Evan when AJ is healthy, he will be drawing the double team leaving Walter one on one with the second corner. I am in what I think is a growing group of sharks that thinks Shaulb is going to out perform HIS ADP, so who else will he be targeting.Last year walter had over a 100 targets. thats pretty good for a guy that you can get in the 11th round or later.Who is your Sshhh guy?
Funny, before I opened the thread I guessed Walter and I did the same thing....I knew nobody would be thinking him and took him in the 13th round. Win/win situation. If AJ gets hurt you have a #1 guy and if AJ is healthy he gains so much attention he can roam more freely. I love this guy. He is my #4 WR and I hope he develops.
 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.

 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
Actually I would much rather have Henry and his suspension than Walker. Look man, the guy is done. I don't care how much talent he had - he lost it in his head.
 
I don't have a lot to go on other than a gut feeling, but I think Ernest Wilford in Miami may do decent. Better than his current draft position, which is very low or not drafted depending on your leeg size.
Wilford isn't even the starter for Miami, and is a risk of being cut (although not likely). Hagan is the starter opposite Ginn in Miami.
I'm assuming that nearly any of the top 2 WRs for each team don't count as "Ssshhhhh" guys. I'm working with the assuption that Wilford is the #3. As I said, depends on how big/deep your league is.
 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
Actually I would much rather have Henry and his suspension than Walker. Look man, the guy is done. I don't care how much talent he had - he lost it in his head.
Just curious as to what makes you think he's done mentally... I know the guy has always had serious attitude issues, but I think the change of scenery is a good thing - look at what he did his first season in Denver.
 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
Actually I would much rather have Henry and his suspension than Walker. Look man, the guy is done. I don't care how much talent he had - he lost it in his head.
Just curious as to what makes you think he's done mentally... I know the guy has always had serious attitude issues, but I think the change of scenery is a good thing - look at what he did his first season in Denver.
i'm just spit-balling, but it could be the whole needing-to-be-talked-out-of-retiring thing
 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
Actually I would much rather have Henry and his suspension than Walker. Look man, the guy is done. I don't care how much talent he had - he lost it in his head.
Just curious as to what makes you think he's done mentally... I know the guy has always had serious attitude issues, but I think the change of scenery is a good thing - look at what he did his first season in Denver.
i'm just spit-balling, but it could be the whole needing-to-be-talked-out-of-retiring thing
Guess I wasn't aware of that... care to elaborate?
 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
Actually I would much rather have Henry and his suspension than Walker. Look man, the guy is done. I don't care how much talent he had - he lost it in his head.
Just curious as to what makes you think he's done mentally... I know the guy has always had serious attitude issues, but I think the change of scenery is a good thing - look at what he did his first season in Denver.
i'm just spit-balling, but it could be the whole needing-to-be-talked-out-of-retiring thing
Guess I wasn't aware of that... care to elaborate?
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Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
Actually I would much rather have Henry and his suspension than Walker. Look man, the guy is done. I don't care how much talent he had - he lost it in his head.
when you start saying stuff like this as if it's a fact, ou know you've spent too much time in the :shark: pool.
 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
Actually I would much rather have Henry and his suspension than Walker. Look man, the guy is done. I don't care how much talent he had - he lost it in his head.
Just curious as to what makes you think he's done mentally... I know the guy has always had serious attitude issues, but I think the change of scenery is a good thing - look at what he did his first season in Denver.
i'm just spit-balling, but it could be the whole needing-to-be-talked-out-of-retiring thing
Guess I wasn't aware of that... care to elaborate?
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Thanks... not sure how I missed that.Nonetheless, if he has decided to play, I still think he's worth a late round pick. He just has too much talent not to take a flier on.

 
Javon Walker is not a bad guy to target in the tenth round or later. It's possible he ends up being worthless, but he is still immensely talented and thus presents a lot of upside. Not sure if he's lost a step after all the injuries, but if not, he should be able to stretch the field and we all know Jamarcus throws a good deep ball. If all goes right, it's not inconceivable to think he could go for something like 80 1100 8.
No. Walker has lost the desire to play. He won't even sniff the bench on any of my teams.
Great insight here. You're probably better off grabbing the guy in your avatar anyway.
Actually I would much rather have Henry and his suspension than Walker. Look man, the guy is done. I don't care how much talent he had - he lost it in his head.
Just curious as to what makes you think he's done mentally... I know the guy has always had serious attitude issues, but I think the change of scenery is a good thing - look at what he did his first season in Denver.
i'm just spit-balling, but it could be the whole needing-to-be-talked-out-of-retiring thing
The title is shhhh dont tell anyone about this WR.......it goes both ways.
 
Guess I wasn't aware of that... care to elaborate?
Javon Walker-WR- Raiders Aug. 2 - 12:37 pm et

Raiders WR Javon Walker told the Raiders Thursday he intended to retire and offered to return his $11 million signing bonus.

Owner Al Davis reportedly persuaded him to remain with the team. Walker has struggled in camp so far, but we never expected something this drastic. Walker's knee doesn't appear to be getting better, and he obviously has some mental hurdles to clear after a trying offseason. With red flags popping up all over, the troubled receiver should remain on your "do not draft" list.

Source: ESPN.com

Javon Walker-WR - Raiders Aug. 17 - 9:14 am et

Raiders coach Lane Kiffin called out WR Javon Walker Sunday.

Kiffin pointed to a couple of balls Walker should have caught before stating that he has to start earning his money: "That's discouraging because he was paid an awful lot of money, paid like one of the top five receivers in the NFL. We need him to make those plays." And who's going to call out Al Davis for purchasing swampland in Florida?

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Javon Walker-WR - Raiders Aug. 19 - 8:37 am et

Raiders coach Lane Kiffin hinted that he'll consider moving Drew Carter or Ronald Curry to split end if Javon Walker doesn't step up his play.

Walker hasn't performed since signing in March. "If it becomes something where Javon is not playing as well as we need him to play, both of those guys have learned 'X' so they can go over there," Kiffin said. "I expect Javon to have a big (third preseason) game. I'm putting in a game plan, and he should see some balls early. Hopefully, he'll make some plays."

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Javon Walker-WR - Raiders Aug. 21 - 6:10 pm et

Coach Lane Kiffin says Javon Walker is continuing to struggle in practice.

"Javon hasn’t had a very good week," he said. Kiffin is considering demoting Walker from the starting lineup and moving Drew Carter or Ronald Curry to split end. Walker needs a big third preseason game to keep his job.

Source: Oakland Tribune
 
Vincent JacksonHe was money in the playoffs last year and he also looked good in the preseason games that he's played.
He was featured more in the playoffs because of the injury to Gates. Before that he was invisible. He was my "sleeper" last year...i'll pass on him this year.
 
whodeywhodey said:
thatguy said:
Guess I wasn't aware of that... care to elaborate?
Javon Walker-WR- Raiders Aug. 2 - 12:37 pm et

Raiders WR Javon Walker told the Raiders Thursday he intended to retire and offered to return his $11 million signing bonus.

Owner Al Davis reportedly persuaded him to remain with the team. Walker has struggled in camp so far, but we never expected something this drastic. Walker's knee doesn't appear to be getting better, and he obviously has some mental hurdles to clear after a trying offseason. With red flags popping up all over, the troubled receiver should remain on your "do not draft" list.

Source: ESPN.com

Javon Walker-WR - Raiders Aug. 17 - 9:14 am et

Raiders coach Lane Kiffin called out WR Javon Walker Sunday.

Kiffin pointed to a couple of balls Walker should have caught before stating that he has to start earning his money: "That's discouraging because he was paid an awful lot of money, paid like one of the top five receivers in the NFL. We need him to make those plays." And who's going to call out Al Davis for purchasing swampland in Florida?

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Javon Walker-WR - Raiders Aug. 19 - 8:37 am et

Raiders coach Lane Kiffin hinted that he'll consider moving Drew Carter or Ronald Curry to split end if Javon Walker doesn't step up his play.

Walker hasn't performed since signing in March. "If it becomes something where Javon is not playing as well as we need him to play, both of those guys have learned 'X' so they can go over there," Kiffin said. "I expect Javon to have a big (third preseason) game. I'm putting in a game plan, and he should see some balls early. Hopefully, he'll make some plays."

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

Javon Walker-WR - Raiders Aug. 21 - 6:10 pm et

Coach Lane Kiffin says Javon Walker is continuing to struggle in practice.

"Javon hasn’t had a very good week," he said. Kiffin is considering demoting Walker from the starting lineup and moving Drew Carter or Ronald Curry to split end. Walker needs a big third preseason game to keep his job.

Source: Oakland Tribune
I agree somewhat w/ the "lost it in his head," but he is still very talented. I'm also getting a little A.I. vibe from him... "We talkin about PRACTICE!?"
 
Chris Henry

With both Housh and Ocho dinged up and that crappy defense, they will be behind early and often. Team will double Housh (hammy or no hammy) and Ocho will get the best cover corner on each team, leaving lots of balls for Henry. If you can afford to stash him for 4 weeks, he could lead you to the promised land come weeks 10-16.

 
I grabbed Limas Sweed in the 14th (Dynasty) - I think he's got the raw materials to be a stud: 6'4", 210, 4.46 40-yard at the combine, long term starter at Texas.

I think the Steelers are going to increase their downfield passing game going forward which will be great for all of the offensive players of the team.

 
The guy I like that no one has mention is mushin muhammed...he was very mediocre for the bears but with rex grossman throwing to him what do you expect. Due to his age and recent past production I've been able to get him if the later rounds of about four different leagues. I haven't forgotten in 2004 which was his last year in carolina he had over 1,300 yards and 14 TDs. I wouldn't draft him to be a starter but IMO he has nice upside and definitely worth having as your #4 wr

 
I grabbed Limas Sweed in the 14th (Dynasty) - I think he's got the raw materials to be a stud: 6'4", 210, 4.46 40-yard at the combine, long term starter at Texas.I think the Steelers are going to increase their downfield passing game going forward which will be great for all of the offensive players of the team.
If you have a year or 2 to stash, he will be a star. Right now he is forcing things and dropping the easy balls, but making nice catches on others. He has the jitters along with Mendy. Sweed will not take over Washington's 3rd WR roll this year but most certainly will next year. Man can Sweed get open but has the dropsies.
 
The guy I like that no one has mention is mushin muhammed...he was very mediocre for the bears but with rex grossman throwing to him what do you expect. Due to his age and recent past production I've been able to get him if the later rounds of about four different leagues. I haven't forgotten in 2004 which was his last year in carolina he had over 1,300 yards and 14 TDs. I wouldn't draft him to be a starter but IMO he has nice upside and definitely worth having as your #4 wr
Sharing balls with Smith and Hackett on a run-first offense with two healthy RBs. I'd say his ADP is pretty reasonable.The best case for Muhammad, aside from injury to a teammate, is that the defense stinks, the O-Line can't run-block, and Delhomme is 100%. Short of that his numbers figure to be way too mediocre and volatile to be startable.Just my $0.02.
 
Shhh.... Domenik Hixon. Good size, speed, hands; just needs the opportunity. :clap:
He's definitely fast and a fantastic kick returner, but I'm not sure he has what it takes to be a productive NFL receiver - of course I haven't see a whole lot of him since he left Denver. In Denver though, he always seemed too soft, a bit like Ashleigh Lelie.Even from what I've seen of him in the return game, he has the speed and vision to find the seam, but he doesn't seem to run with a whole lot of authority.
 
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You know, I haven't heard of Walter until the last spot of my roster came up in our auction. I was thinking of going with Justin Gage, but then I saw on Draft Dominator that Walter was the highest ranked WR by far.

After looking into him a bit more, intrigued by my no-name pick, I was REALLY happy I got him for $1. I think he's an absolute gem waiting to happen- I agree with the analogy that was said in another thread- poor man's Wes Welker. In a PPR league this guy has incredible value. Last season he snagged 65 for 800 with 4 TDs and was ranked 32nd in my league amongst WRs. THIS season I can see him grabbing at least 70 catches for at least 900 yards and posibly 5 TDs (I would say 75, 1000, 6 but I figured to tone it down just a little to be more realistic). This would have put him ranked 21st in my league last year. Crazy value for someone with WR2 potential! At the very least he makes an incredible WR3 or 4 to fill in for bye weeks (depending on your starting requirements).

I completely agree with Vincent Jackson too. He went UNDRAFTED (!!!) in my league. I dropped Mark Clayton (another $1 WR) for him. One thing I have based my team on this year is last years' wonders that just didn't seem to pan out. Everyone was high on Jackson and he didn't really work out for people who drafted him higher than his value. I think this year we might see him emerge into that legitimate #1 WR threat that we all know he's capable of. He's so tall and has very good hands. With Gates coming back down to earth, and with Chambers across from him to draw some coverage, you may see him develop into a very very good WR3.

I would say those are this years' "shhhhhh WRs"

 
I don't know what happened in your league but VJax is definitely not a "ssshhhhh" receiver. He's going in the top 10 rounds in most drafts.

That said I really like him and completely agree with your assessment.

 
I don't know what happened in your league but VJax is definitely not a "ssshhhhh" receiver. He's going in the top 10 rounds in most drafts.That said I really like him and completely agree with your assessment.
He slipped through the cracks last year too. Everyone loves the RBs and picks them dry. I think I got an absolute steal to get him for free, and I really needed the bench depth (Chris Johnson, Chester Taylor, Kevin Walter, and now Vincent Jackson)
 
Moose Muhammad back in Carolina. The last time he suited up for the Panthers he caught 93 passes for 1400+ yards and 16 TDs. S. Smith was out for season that year - but Delhomme could certainly look for him often again.

 

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